Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Sir, Astronomical features do become the base for Astrology.Planets in Zodiac while in their movements do not follow uniform motion,velocity and pattern too.The planetary forces that exist are some times beyond human comprehensio.Like take ex the lattest gustav that was expected to be catstrophic has become gradually sober unlike katrina of y'years.Also the events that are now taking in the astren horizon,be it china,japan and to some extent eastren parts of India too are being subjected to natures vagaries.Mayan's philosophy beieves that the rate at which we are denuding the earth deserves better respects from humanity and needs worship and respect.otherwise planetary forces portend toa catsrophic features.such signals and warnings are wake up calls to fortify the science to improve conservation sciences. In '80s there was that 8 planets joining together in a sign was a factor of imbalance in Nature due to which the universe witnessed severe and un anticipated features leading to global warming and lot hazardous emmissions. Finally Mayan's belief can not be taken lighly and base for their apprehensions for end of the universe need thorough understanding by the Astrology and can not be whisked away with pessimistic approach. ketu a nodal planet,gaining significance from anirjeeva sign of sagittarus may foretell destructions through Tsunami and other mid air explosions.ketu's other constellations like Aswani in Aries.Makha inLeo might cause/contribute acording to their lords through which they get identified and expected to indicate their pattern of behaviour.certainly the topic needs indepth understanding to anticipate the kind of shadow likely to emrge from such astronomical features. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Vic D <vicdicara 2012 Disaster? " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Cc: " Ayumi Ingrosso " <ayumi18, " Edo Ivce " <shyam4134, " ä¸å·ã€€é•·å " <nagako108yuragi, helenagrzina, " Trivikrama " <trivikrama Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:23 AM Dear Group Members, I would like to solicit your opinions regarding the probability of a global catastrophe occurring on the winter solstice of 2012. According to Dennis Frawley 12,000 years ago there was a major global catastrophe such as a flood which destroyed the previous cultural capital of humanity, Atlantis. 12,000 years ago the SUMMER solstice was in the galactic center. The Mayan calendar ends at 2012... On the winter solstice of 2012 the Sun will align with the center of the Moola stellar nakshatra where the exact galactic center is presumed to be (6º40' Sagittarius) . Between 12/21/2012 and 12/22/2012 the Sun will cross this point in connection with a solstice. There is also a strong alignment of planets Venus, Mercury and Jupiter on the Rahu-Ketu axis. And the two superstar " malefics " - Mars and Saturn - are exalted. Calculating for a location near New York City... At 1:26 am the ascendant conjoins Rahu, and at 4:16am the ascendant aligns with the Sun in Moola / Galactic Center. This puts the Rahu Ketu axis in the 6/12 houses. At this time I feel that there is a very strong possibility of an ice age descending from the southern tip of Iceland and progressing down the eastern coast of North America. I would really appreciate your feedback on these points, as well as your own new points on this topic. The data as a starting point is: Dec 21, 2012 4:16 AM New York City Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hi Vic, I have read lots on this topic over the net. There seems to be two group of thoughts with respect to the day dec 21, 2012. One group sees it as a day of natural disaster and end of the world. Scientists also support this by saying when sun moves into the galactic centre, there could be extreme draught situations in some parts of the world. Sir Einstein was of the view that there could even be a polar shift which could bring about total disaster. But the second grp of people sees it as the end of an age and beginning of the age of awakening. They believe that the concept of oneness will be uplifted during this new age of aquarius. IMO, chances are that end of the world is not gonna happen on the day. But I feel people's beliefs are about to change. As you have pointed out the clue to what will happen lies in the exalted mars (karma) and Saturn. If mars represents action then saturn represents reaction ( planet for karmic return). So far we humans have neglected the consequences of our actions and it could be the day most people gets in touch with reality. For the already advanced souls it could be a day of great progress & spiritual achievement. All planets except saturn is within the Rahu-ketu axis.So I assume Saturn is the guiding planet for the day and those going through saturn return that year will learn the biggest lesson. Saturnine lessons always have a sad beginning but a happy ending. Again, in my view, these people will reap the highest spiritual reward. B4n, manasa. p.s. 21/ 12/ '12 is a highly karmic day and it would be my 33rd birthday :-) > Dear Group Members, > > I would like to solicit your opinions regarding the probability of a > global catastrophe occurring on the winter solstice of 2012. According > to Dennis Frawley 12,000 years ago there was a major global > catastrophe such as a flood which destroyed the previous cultural > capital of humanity, Atlantis. 12,000 years ago the SUMMER solstice > was in the galactic center. > > The Mayan calendar ends at 2012... On the winter solstice of 2012 the > Sun will align with the center of the Moola stellar nakshatra where > the exact galactic center is presumed to be (6º40' Sagittarius) . > Between 12/21/2012 and 12/22/2012 the Sun will cross this point in > connection with a solstice. > > There is also a strong alignment of planets Venus, Mercury and Jupiter > on the Rahu-Ketu axis. And the two superstar " malefics " - Mars and > Saturn - are exalted. > > Calculating for a location near New York City... > > At 1:26 am the ascendant conjoins Rahu, and at 4:16am the ascendant > aligns with the Sun in Moola / Galactic Center. This puts the Rahu > Ketu axis in the 6/12 houses. > > At this time I feel that there is a very strong possibility of an ice > age descending from the southern tip of Iceland and progressing down > the eastern coast of North America. > > I would really appreciate your feedback on these points, as well as > your own new points on this topic. > > The data as a starting point is: > > Dec 21, 2012 > 4:16 AM > New York City > > Yours, > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor > http://www.vedicast rologer.net > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hi Vic, Were you referring to David Frawley? My understanding is that the galactic center is the gateway to the sun that is believed to nurish human consicousness. As you know we are deep into the Kali Yuga but within the greater Yuga there are lesser Yugas of 25,000 years and we are in an " ascending " lesser Yugas. The point may be exact on the 12/21/12 but I believe that we've been in this energy for quite a while and see not only the distrubtions on so many levels on this planet but have also seen great amounts of knowledge coming through--thus, it can be good for science as well as those individuals on a path of truth and consciousness. A long time ago the Hopi Indians spoke of 2012 as a time when humanity would either face destruction or a walk into a time of peacefulness (based on Mayan teachings, I believe). What I find really interesting is that in many ways the choice may be made on November 4th in the US election. It is interesting that Obama has a Sasa Yoga right on his ascendant opposed to McCains debilitated Mars and the nodal points are directly on the Mars and close to Obama's Capricorn Lagna which contains the Sasa Yoga. I believe that McCain's lagna is Libra which is where the exalted Saturn will be on 12/21/12. Joe Biden's Scorpio Sun is in the middle of the Scorpio stellium in the 12/21 chart while Palin's Capricorn Moon, Sun and possibly Mars are on the exalted Mars of that day. Of course, Obama's Saturn/Jupiter/Lagna are also on the exalted Mars. Like it or not the US is the most armed country in the world and the choice between made in the US is coming down to the old way of war vs. pacificism--what happens here will affect the world and could have an impact on 12/21/12. I've been collecting charts but due to my own horrible transits and too much family inteference right now...this will clear up soon and I can organize all the information while looking forward to further discussion. Linda " Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow, life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar - Vic D Jyotish Vidya Cc: Ayumi Ingrosso ; Edo Ivce ; ????? ; helenagrzina ; Trivikrama Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:23 AM 2012 Disaster? Dear Group Members, I would like to solicit your opinions regarding the probability of a global catastrophe occurring on the winter solstice of 2012. According to Dennis Frawley 12,000 years ago there was a major global catastrophe such as a flood which destroyed the previous cultural capital of humanity, Atlantis. 12,000 years ago the SUMMER solstice was in the galactic center. The Mayan calendar ends at 2012... On the winter solstice of 2012 the Sun will align with the center of the Moola stellar nakshatra where the exact galactic center is presumed to be (6º40' Sagittarius). Between 12/21/2012 and 12/22/2012 the Sun will cross this point in connection with a solstice. There is also a strong alignment of planets Venus, Mercury and Jupiter on the Rahu-Ketu axis. And the two superstar " malefics " - Mars and Saturn - are exalted. Calculating for a location near New York City... At 1:26 am the ascendant conjoins Rahu, and at 4:16am the ascendant aligns with the Sun in Moola / Galactic Center. This puts the Rahu Ketu axis in the 6/12 houses. At this time I feel that there is a very strong possibility of an ice age descending from the southern tip of Iceland and progressing down the eastern coast of North America. I would really appreciate your feedback on these points, as well as your own new points on this topic. The data as a starting point is: Dec 21, 2012 4:16 AM New York City Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Thank you Linda and Manasa for your very interesting feedback. I find it very interesting, Linda, that the US candidates have significant planets in combination with the 12/21/12 planets! Also, Manasa, I was very interested to hear that Einstein posited a polar shift in connection with the solstice of 12/21/12. Linda... wouldn't EVERY successful politician have significant Mars and Saturn, though? I've clarified my thoughts a bit in a letter to my brother, which is... Essentially the idea is that the center of the Milky Way Galaxy is exactly at 6º40 " of Sagittarius (basically where the arrow points, yep). On the 21st of December 2012 the Sun will be in that spot for the first time in about 25,000 years. The significance of the 21st of December is that it's a " solstice " - when the days are shortest and the nights are longest. There is an opposite solstice in June, on June 21st when the days are longest and the nights are shortest. About 12,500 years ago the Summer solstice (June 21st) rose at 6º40 " Sagittarius and that is where they say the great flood happened which drowned " Atlantis. " Considering the state of global warming, etc. I'm expecting the winter solstice here will cause the next ice age to start. But! When Atlantis was drowned it was when the Yugas were WORSENING from Satya to Kali yuga. So that catastrophe caused mankind to descend from greatness into darkness. On the other hand, the current catastrophe happens when the Yugas are IMPROVING from Kali to Satya, so I think what is going to happen is that a lot of bad elements left over from Kali yuga are going to be destroyed and lost, and humanity is going to begin reforming and improving itself again, moving towards a new Satya Yuga. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Vicdicara, came across a jornal which may able to supplement with reference to Mars and saturn influence i the lives of successful Politicians. The outgoing President seems to have Mars in 12th from Virgo,the moon sign of George Bush. Also Sun in 12th from lagna(cancer) which had debilitated saturn along with mercury and venus.This position might account for his crazy thoughts with reference to oil producing rich countries and his miscalculations of super power attitude. what really matters to ascendancy to the white house is the chart of America(july6th,time 10-21-30A.M,Phildelphia) has moon in 7th in Kumbha. From leo ascendant sat in 2nd in friends sign of virgo and the dispositor of 2nd in 12th in retrograde with malefic rahu in enmy sign of cancer owned by the moon. This axis od Rahu-Ketu affecting 4-10 signs in natal chart has a say with reference to ensuing events ,particulary election in the month of Nov2008. vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Vic D <vicdicara Re: 2012 Disaster? jyotish-vidya Cc: " Edo Ivce " <shyam4134, " Ayumi Ingrosso " <ayumi18 Sunday, September 7, 2008, 1:34 PM Thank you Linda and Manasa for your very interesting feedback. I find it very interesting, Linda, that the US candidates have significant planets in combination with the 12/21/12 planets! Also, Manasa, I was very interested to hear that Einstein posited a polar shift in connection with the solstice of 12/21/12. Linda... wouldn't EVERY successful politician have significant Mars and Saturn, though? I've clarified my thoughts a bit in a letter to my brother, which is... Essentially the idea is that the center of the Milky Way Galaxy is exactly at 6º40 " of Sagittarius (basically where the arrow points, yep). On the 21st of December 2012 the Sun will be in that spot for the first time in about 25,000 years. The significance of the 21st of December is that it's a " solstice " - when the days are shortest and the nights are longest. There is an opposite solstice in June, on June 21st when the days are longest and the nights are shortest. About 12,500 years ago the Summer solstice (June 21st) rose at 6º40 " Sagittarius and that is where they say the great flood happened which drowned " Atlantis. " Considering the state of global warming, etc. I'm expecting the winter solstice here will cause the next ice age to start. But! When Atlantis was drowned it was when the Yugas were WORSENING from Satya to Kali yuga. So that catastrophe caused mankind to descend from greatness into darkness. On the other hand, the current catastrophe happens when the Yugas are IMPROVING from Kali to Satya, so I think what is going to happen is that a lot of bad elements left over from Kali yuga are going to be destroyed and lost, and humanity is going to begin reforming and improving itself again, moving towards a new Satya Yuga. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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