Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

August 23, 2008

Separated from father (23 May '65):

I'm taking a stab in the dark here with the actual date. This shows

Obama's dasas/transits at 2yrs, 9mths. Operating dasa was MO-RA-MA.

Moon, dispositor of Sun (father), is aspected by 12th lord Jupiter...a

functional malefic in this chart who also happens to be a temporary enemy

of Moon. Both bhukti lord Rahu and P/D lord Mars occupy 8th house of

separation in sign of Leo.

Transits:

Sun's dispositor (Moon) transiting 10th house of father, in nakshatra of

Rahu, was receiving aspect from transit Mercury (owning 12th from 10th),

12th lord Jupiter and Mars...all were transiting nakshatra of Venus. Both

10th lord Venus and Rahu (in nakshatra of Rahu himself) were transiting

natal Venus in 6th...12th from natal Sun.

Moved to Indonesia with mother and step-father 1967:

This could have been sometime between Mar/May...operating dasa MO-SA-JU

Mother died of ovarian cancer mid 1995? 3rd lord Jupiter, owning 12th

from 4th, would have been aspecting Moon from Scorpio around that time

whilst Ketu was passing through 4th house...4th lord Mars transiting 8th

etc, etc..

Unfortunately I'll have to leave it here for now as it's time for me to

switch off. If someone can post more accurate dates for important events

I would appreciate it :-)

Before closing I might point quickly to exalted Moon in 5th (literary

works). Obama has published two successful books (to date). As for Obama

defeating Clinton...that's debatable, but I don't have time to get into

that now.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

August 23, 2008

PS: If I can just add a few (very important) points here about this

chart...

Anyone that's followed this primary would be well aware of the publicity

regarding Obama's pastor/mentor (Jeremiah Wright) who's radical views he

was obviously in agreement with (found no fault with) for 20 yrs. He

(seemingly) broke away from Wright, and his church, in response to the

public outcry...political posturing!

Note 9th lord (religious teacher/mentor) combust 8th lord Sun (dispositor

of Rahu and F/M Mars) whilst retrograde 9th karaka Jupiter is in sign of

debilitation in lagna along with retrograde lagna lord...this Jupiter is

both a functional malefic for this ascendant and a temporary enemy to

Ascendant lord Saturn.

Again we see the same influences in regards to his associates with 11th

lord Mars conjunct Rahu in 8th...debilitated Jupiter, once again, is

karaka for 11th. Surely we can see the story unfold here!

Look at the 2nd house of speech/truthfulness holding Ketu. Consider

again, the debilitation of 2nd karaka Jupiter and the combustion of

Mercury (significator of speech. I've followed this primary closely and

have no qualms whatsoever in saying that Obama is an unrepentant liar.

All these things, that we know to be true, are glaringly obvious in his

chart. Then we have the further evidence of the publication of his birth

certificate. Believe me, those opposed to him have left no stone unturned

trying to prove it's fraudulent...they have not been able to, in spite of

all the assumptions flooding the internet. There can be no doubt his

opponents want him gone and if there was any substance to the accusations

regarding his BC he would have been out of the race long ago.

_________

Separated from father (23 May '65):

I'm taking a stab in the dark here with the actual date. This shows

Obama's dasas/transits at 2yrs, 9mths. Operating dasa was MO-RA-MA.

Moon, dispositor of Sun (father), is aspected by 12th lord Jupiter...a

functional malefic in this chart who also happens to be a temporary enemy

of Moon. Both bhukti lord Rahu and P/D lord Mars occupy 8th house of

separation in sign of Leo.

Transits:

Sun's dispositor (Moon) transiting 10th house of father, in nakshatra of

Rahu, was receiving aspect from transit Mercury (owning 12th from 10th),

12th lord Jupiter and Mars...all were transiting nakshatra of Venus. Both

10th lord Venus and Rahu (in nakshatra of Rahu himself) were transiting

natal Venus in 6th...12th from natal Sun.

Moved to Indonesia with mother and step-father 1967:

This could have been sometime between Mar/May...operating dasa MO-SA-JU

Mother died of ovarian cancer mid 1995? 3rd lord Jupiter, owning 12th

from 4th, would have been aspecting Moon from Scorpio around that time

whilst Ketu was passing through 4th house...4th lord Mars transiting 8th

etc, etc..

Unfortunately I'll have to leave it here for now as it's time for me to

switch off. If someone can post more accurate dates for important events

I would appreciate it :-)

Before closing I might point quickly to exalted Moon in 5th (literary

works). Obama has published two successful books (to date). As for Obama

defeating Clinton...that's debatable, but I don't have time to get into

that now.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

August 23, 2008

Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

very very interesting facts have been bought out by you.Based on this, can it be

said that his ascendant is raising in uttarshadha 2nd of makara lagna .

His 3rd and 4th house have no planets.Also from 9th to12th houses have

planets.his initiation as senator and earlier into politics could be attributer

to the makara lagna with saturn and jupiter in the sign

vrkishnan

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote:

Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya

Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

jyotish-vidya

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 12:10 PM

Separated from father (23 May '65):

I'm taking a stab in the dark here with the actual date. This shows

Obama's dasas/transits at 2yrs, 9mths. Operating dasa was MO-RA-MA.

Moon, dispositor of Sun (father), is aspected by 12th lord Jupiter...a

functional malefic in this chart who also happens to be a temporary enemy

of Moon. Both bhukti lord Rahu and P/D lord Mars occupy 8th house of

separation in sign of Leo.

Transits:

Sun's dispositor (Moon) transiting 10th house of father, in nakshatra of

Rahu, was receiving aspect from transit Mercury (owning 12th from 10th),

12th lord Jupiter and Mars...all were transiting nakshatra of Venus. Both

10th lord Venus and Rahu (in nakshatra of Rahu himself) were transiting

natal Venus in 6th...12th from natal Sun.

Moved to Indonesia with mother and step-father 1967:

This could have been sometime between Mar/May...operating dasa MO-SA-JU

Mother died of ovarian cancer mid 1995? 3rd lord Jupiter, owning 12th

from 4th, would have been aspecting Moon from Scorpio around that time

whilst Ketu was passing through 4th house...4th lord Mars transiting 8th

etc, etc..

Unfortunately I'll have to leave it here for now as it's time for me to

switch off. If someone can post more accurate dates for important events

I would appreciate it :-)

Before closing I might point quickly to exalted Moon in 5th (literary

works). Obama has published two successful books (to date). As for Obama

defeating Clinton...that's debatable, but I don't have time to get into

that now.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

---

August 23, 2008

Dear Krishnan,

According to the time I have (with Lahiri Ayanamsha) Dhanish rises with

nakshatra lord Mars conjunct Rahu in 8th. This speaks volumes of the

nature of this man...even his position as senator was achieved by foul

means.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" vattem krishnan " <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:59 AM

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

very very interesting facts have been bought out by you.Based on this,

can it be said that his ascendant is raising in uttarshadha 2nd of makara

lagna .

His 3rd and 4th house have no planets.Also from 9th to12th houses have

planets.his initiation as senator and earlier into politics could be

attributer to the makara lagna with saturn and jupiter in the sign

vrkishnan

August 23, 2008

PS: The question begs to be asked;

Does Rahu, conjunct Mars in 8th, have the ability to bestow on him the

worldly power he (obviously) craves? I pray to God not! However, the

transit of Rahu over lagna lord Saturn and Dasa lord Jupiter (in lagna)

is worrisome...

_____

Dear Krishnan,

According to the time I have (with Lahiri Ayanamsha) Dhanish rises with

nakshatra lord Mars conjunct Rahu in 8th. This speaks volumes of the

nature of this man...even his position as senator was achieved by foul

means.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" vattem krishnan " <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:59 AM

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

very very interesting facts have been bought out by you.Based on this,

can it be said that his ascendant is raising in uttarshadha 2nd of makara

lagna .

His 3rd and 4th house have no planets.Also from 9th to12th houses have

planets.his initiation as senator and earlier into politics could be

attributer to the makara lagna with saturn and jupiter in the sign

vrkishnan

August 23, 2008

Hii

whats the verdict on Obama now?

I believe in real world((Astro aside) , Obama has high chances of winning...

and

Ketu in 2nd.

that should mean he shouldnt be a great speaker...

but in reality ..he is an orator par excellence ..

lord of lagna retro own house....does it mean anything with political

significance?

looking forward to hear from you

August 24, 2008

Hi.

In real life, I was just listening to a report in reference about the

convention and appears that Hilary's group is very upset about the VP deal. we

need to wait and see what will happen during the convention. And who may be the

VP for Commander McCain.

Eligio

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Chandramohan S <cmsiit wrote:

Chandramohan S <cmsiit

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

jyotish-vidya

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 11:29 PM

Hii

whats the verdict on Obama now?

I believe in real world((Astro aside) , Obama has high chances of winning...

and

Ketu in 2nd.

that should mean he shouldnt be a great speaker...

but in reality ..he is an orator par excellence ..

lord of lagna retro own house....does it mean anything with political

significance?

looking forward to hear from you

August 24, 2008

Hii all..

what are Obama 's chances in November and then January 09?

isnt he running Jupiter MD and Moon Antar Dasa...?

Moon in Moolatrikona...and in 5th house....

looks promising?

August 24, 2008

Dear Wendy and Krishnan,

There is a significant affliction to the lagna and lagna lord since

the 12th, 6th and 8th lords are associated with it. Taken with the

presence of two malefics (mars and rahu) influencing the 8th,there is

and indication of significant threat to the ayus of the individual.

It is for this reason that I have chosen not to further analyse this

chart, as the implications can be dark. A look at McCain's chart

could tell us more about who will win the elections.

regards

arun

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Krishnan,

>

> According to the time I have (with Lahiri Ayanamsha) Dhanish rises

with

> nakshatra lord Mars conjunct Rahu in 8th. This speaks volumes of

the

> nature of this man...even his position as senator was achieved by

foul

> means.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " vattem krishnan " <bursar_99

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:59 AM

> Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

>

> Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

> very very interesting facts have been bought out by you.Based on

this,

> can it be said that his ascendant is raising in uttarshadha 2nd of

makara

> lagna .

> His 3rd and 4th house have no planets.Also from 9th to12th houses

have

> planets.his initiation as senator and earlier into politics could

be

> attributer to the makara lagna with saturn and jupiter in the sign

> vrkishnan

>

August 24, 2008

Dear Friends,

This must be an indication that democratic votes now will be split and likely to

help Mc cainn,the republicans.

with Russians advancing into Georgia,the foriegn policy of US needs a

relook.Possibly these circumstances are likely to help Republicans.

Astrologically too,Barack Obama's position and the tranist in store around the

end of october too are not going to help Obama to get into white house

vrkrishnan

--- On Sun, 8/24/08, ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote:

ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, August 24, 2008, 1:19 AM

Hi.

In real life, I was just listening to a report in reference about the

convention and appears that Hilary's group is very upset about the VP deal. we

need to wait and see what will happen during the convention. And who may be the

VP for Commander McCain.

Eligio

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Chandramohan S <cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Chandramohan S <cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

jyotish-vidya

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 11:29 PM

Hii

whats the verdict on Obama now?

I believe in real world((Astro aside) , Obama has high chances of winning...

and

Ketu in 2nd.

that should mean he shouldnt be a great speaker...

but in reality ..he is an orator par excellence ..

lord of lagna retro own house....does it mean anything with political

significance?

looking forward to hear from you

August 24, 2008

Sir,

Natal influences apart,we need to consider gochara /transit as the influence of

swings in such closely fought elections decide over issues.

This was evident even in primaries,when Hillary Clinton thought would over come

rhetoric of Obama.Things went wrong as the transit of planets went if favour of

Obama.Many astrological considerations not favoured Obama even at the time of

primaries.republicans unity is now getting targetted by Democrats .How it will

swing in favour of Democrats is awaited.Saturn® in lagna in own sign vis a vis

Mars in Libra where saturn exalts are the factors prove to be decisive.

If we see around oct 20th ,the sun will be in libra along with Mars,aspected by

saturn.Rahu-Ketu will be in afflicting lagna and 7th also.This position is not

conducive to Democarts.

vrkrishnan

--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Chandramohan S <cmsiit wrote:

Chandramohan S <cmsiit

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, August 24, 2008, 1:34 AM

Hii all..

what are Obama 's chances in November and then January 09?

isnt he running Jupiter MD and Moon Antar Dasa...?

Moon in Moolatrikona. ..and in 5th house....

looks promising?

August 24, 2008

Hi All

If in fact we are to take obama as capricorn lagna (which i do not

agree with personally ) - then i do not think it is possible for him

to win the election - he wil be running jupiter-moon-ketu - i think

he will miss out the presidency and instead form a very strong

alliance with another political party -

Kind regards

Sorabh

jyotish-vidya , " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit

wrote:

>

> Hii all..

>

> what are Obama 's chances in November and then January 09?

> isnt he running Jupiter MD and Moon Antar Dasa...?

>

> Moon in Moolatrikona...and in 5th house....

> looks promising?

>

August 24, 2008

PPS: An observation I failed to account for is that, along with Rahu's

transit over dasa lord Jupiter, Ketu, of course, is transiting over P/D

lord Mercury. As we know, Ketu reaches maturity at age 48...during this

year (47-48) Ketu's full effects (potential) may be quite intense. There

may be unhappiness/depression, financial difficulties and domestic

problems.

____________

PS: The question begs to be asked;

Does Rahu, conjunct Mars in 8th, have the ability to bestow on him the

worldly power he (obviously) craves? I pray to God not! However, the

transit of Rahu over lagna lord Saturn and Dasa lord Jupiter (in lagna)

is worrisome...

_____

Dear Krishnan,

According to the time I have (with Lahiri Ayanamsha) Dhanish rises with

nakshatra lord Mars conjunct Rahu in 8th. This speaks volumes of the

nature of this man...even his position as senator was achieved by foul

means.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

August 24, 2008

One of the things that I find interesting in this election is the position of

the transits and especially the nodes on election day. Ketu will be exact on

McCain's debilitated Mars and exact on Obama's Sun this same Ketu will hit

McCain's Jupiter in close degree. Not close in aspect Ketu will hit McCain's

natal Moon and Obama's strong Saturn. The Moon which rules the popular vote

will be on McCain's natal Moon as well as Obama's Jupiter and Saturn. While

Obama's Jupiter is debilitated if he does have a Capricorn lagna this Jupiter is

involved in a Sasa Yoga and is in Pisces in the Navamsha so that takes away many

of the Jupiter debilitated problems. Also, Obama's Jupiter trines his exalted

Taurus Moon giving another strength to the transit Moon on election day. If the

birth time is correct we have the Sun, Mercury and Mars all transiting Obama's

tenth house on election day. Transit Saturn is closely conjunct Obama's Mars as

well as McCain's Venus--given the malefic nature of this Saturn as well as the

role Ketu is playing in both of these charts I wonder if the next president of

the United States will be at best a one term president or worse if the elected

president will survive the presidency. I have accepted the chart of the United

States having a Sagittarius Lagna which gives us a Mars dasa coming in during

October of 2008 this combined with the wild card nodes playing such a strong

role on November 4th not only is this not an easy election to call it also

appears as if the rocky times in which we live are going to be ever rockier no

matter who wins the office.

" Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow,

life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar

-

mrsorabhsharma

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:52 AM

Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

Hi All

If in fact we are to take obama as capricorn lagna (which i do not

agree with personally ) - then i do not think it is possible for him

to win the election - he wil be running jupiter-moon-ketu - i think

he will miss out the presidency and instead form a very strong

alliance with another political party -

Kind regards

Sorabh

jyotish-vidya , " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit

wrote:

>

> Hii all..

>

> what are Obama 's chances in November and then January 09?

> isnt he running Jupiter MD and Moon Antar Dasa...?

>

> Moon in Moolatrikona...and in 5th house....

> looks promising?

>

August 24, 2008

Dear Linda,

Do you have authentic birth data for McCain?

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" Linda Callanan " <annaicenter

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:15 PM

Re: Re: Barack Obama: Capricorn lagna

One of the things that I find interesting in this election is the

position of the transits and especially the nodes on election day. Ketu

will be exact on McCain's debilitated Mars and exact on Obama's Sun this

same Ketu will hit McCain's Jupiter in close degree. Not close in aspect

Ketu will hit McCain's natal Moon and Obama's strong Saturn. The Moon

which rules the popular vote will be on McCain's natal Moon as well as

Obama's Jupiter and Saturn. While Obama's Jupiter is debilitated if he

does have a Capricorn lagna this Jupiter is involved in a Sasa Yoga and

is in Pisces in the Navamsha so that takes away many of the Jupiter

debilitated problems. Also, Obama's Jupiter trines his exalted Taurus

Moon giving another strength to the transit Moon on election day. If the

birth time is correct we have the Sun, Mercury and Mars all transiting

Obama's tenth house on election day. Transit Saturn is closely conjunct

Obama's Mars as well as McCain's Venus--given the malefic nature of this

Saturn as well as the role Ketu is playing in both of these charts I

wonder if the next president of the United States will be at best a one

term president or worse if the elected president will survive the

presidency. I have accepted the chart of the United States having a

Sagittarius Lagna which gives us a Mars dasa coming in during October of

2008 this combined with the wild card nodes playing such a strong role on

November 4th not only is this not an easy election to call it also

appears as if the rocky times in which we live are going to be ever

rockier no matter who wins the office.

" Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that

flow, life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar

August 24, 2008

Hi Mrs Wendy,

No, I do not....astrodata bank has it listed as 9 am while his mother states 11

am so unless one can see a birth certificate it appears as if it is between 9

and 11 am. This absence of a birth time seems to add to the difficulty in

calling this election but the time of birth does not effect the degrees of his

natal sun and the exact ketu aspect on election day. Supposedly, a staffer saw

on a government website that had access to Obama's time that it was 7:11 PM

which gives 21 capricorn 4 as his lagna.

Namaste,

Linda

" Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow,

life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar

-

Wendy Vasicek

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:15 AM