effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with mars

[Guest guest]

Dear Vic

 

My knowledge is incomplete, but even the following is what I think,

AV was designed to " reduce " the complexity & subjectivity and in astro

analysis and prediction.

 

AV s about a planets effects in various houses.

SAV is about the combined effect of all planets in various houses.

 

So SAV can be used to gauge strength of individual houses or various areas

in a persons life.

 

Also AV of indivdual planets would give us idea about how a particular

planet would give effect when transiting a house.

 

If saturn has 0 points in a house, it could ruin or heavily damage that area

when a malefic saturn transits that house, for a given chart and vice-versa.

 

Thus in my view, AV and SAV are for both purposes, swot analysis as well as

transit analysis.

 

But still the basic analysis, placement, ownership, combinations etc needs

to be looked first and kept in mind throught out.

 

Kindly note that, my writing something in an email, never assumes that you

or someone else does not already know it.

I write in detail sometimes just to make sure that the email makes over all

sense.

This applies to all past an future emails. (just to make sure that my little

venturing out here and there is not taken as arrogance)

 

Regards

-m-

 

 

-

" Vic D " <vicdicara

<jyotish-vidya >

Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:57 AM

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with

mars

 

 

> Dear Monica,

>

>> It will be a pleasure to apply ashtak varga on more examples that

>> you or

>> someone else brings.

>

> Thanks. In the meantime, I would be honored if you would research my

> opinion that AshtakVarga is best used in conjunction with

> understanding the effects of transits and is not primarily used for

> understanding natal effects.

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

[Guest guest]

Dear Monica,

 

Please explain how can we use AV ( Not SAV ),

in transits and time the events, as per Your

experience. It would be great if You could

give us a illustration on the same.

 

I am not looking for what is the result

if Saturn has 0 in its AV, or Sun has 5 in

its AV, but looking for how to make use

of the AV in transit of slower moving planets

like Jupiter and Saturn, and how to time the

event which is to happen.

 

The other knowledge is available in all

elementary books on astrology.

 

// AV was designed to " reduce " the complexity &

subjectivity and in astro analysis and prediction//

 

In which jyotish text is this written, and by whom ?

 

Balwant.

 

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Monica " <monicaastro80

wrote:

>

> Dear Vic

>

> My knowledge is incomplete, but even the following is what I think,

> AV was designed to " reduce " the complexity & subjectivity and in

astro

> analysis and prediction.

>

> AV s about a planets effects in various houses.

> SAV is about the combined effect of all planets in various houses.

>

> So SAV can be used to gauge strength of individual houses or

various areas

> in a persons life.

>

> Also AV of indivdual planets would give us idea about how a

particular

> planet would give effect when transiting a house.

>

> If saturn has 0 points in a house, it could ruin or heavily damage

that area

> when a malefic saturn transits that house, for a given chart and

vice-versa.

>

> Thus in my view, AV and SAV are for both purposes, swot analysis as

well as

> transit analysis.

>

> But still the basic analysis, placement, ownership, combinations

etc needs

> to be looked first and kept in mind throught out.

>

> Kindly note that, my writing something in an email, never assumes

that you

> or someone else does not already know it.

> I write in detail sometimes just to make sure that the email makes

over all

> sense.

> This applies to all past an future emails. (just to make sure that

my little

> venturing out here and there is not taken as arrogance)

>

> Regards

> -m-

>

>

> -

> " Vic D " <vicdicara

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:57 AM

> Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th

house with

> mars

>

>

> > Dear Monica,

> >

> >> It will be a pleasure to apply ashtak varga on more examples that

> >> you or

> >> someone else brings.

> >

> > Thanks. In the meantime, I would be honored if you would research

my

> > opinion that AshtakVarga is best used in conjunction with

> > understanding the effects of transits and is not primarily used

for

> > understanding natal effects.

> >

> > Yours,

> > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> > http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

[Guest guest]

There is no Rajyoga for this combination

in a Capricorn Lagna nativity.

It can only be at the most, a Dhana Yoga,

if and only if this combination is

placed in the 11th or with milder

results, if placed in the 2nd.

 

But No Rajyoga at all.

 

Balwant.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " neenako " <neenako wrote:

>

> -

> Yes Vic,

> Strange though it may seem , for Capricorn lagna, these two in the

> 7th form a rajyog. Mind you , the operative point is that FOR

> CAPRICORN lagna it is a rajyog.

>

> Don't ask me to quote any book or author for this is something I

> read a long time ago. But can vouch for it from experience.

>

> But then don't miss the debilitation of Mars and the exaltation

> sign lord of Mars is giving a good neechbhanga to Mars in this

> combination.

>

> Best Wishes.

> -- In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neenako,

> >

> > A rajyoga? What am I missing? Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd and

> Mars

> > rules the 4th and 11th. I don't see how this puts a Rajyoga on

the

> 7th

> > House. If Mars ruled the 5th or 9th then I could see it. I know

> there

> > are a lot of other yogas that are also called RajaYoga, is this

> one of

> > those? Please clarify. Thanks

> >

> > Yours,

> > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> > http://www.vedicastrologer.net

> >

> > On Jul 12, 2008, at 1:44 AM, neenako wrote:

> >

> > > -

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house

> constitutes a

> > > rajyoga.

> > >

> > > Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have

> not had

> > > the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook this

> post

> > > if someone else has given a similar point of view.

> > >

> > > Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all

> facets

> > > of a persons chart are good.

> > >

> > > Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

> > >

> > > So the chart has to be studied in totality.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes.

> > > -- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan <centumraju@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear members

> > >> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th

> house

> > > alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any

> problem in

> > > his married life ?

> > >> with kind regards

> > >> raju

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Balwant,

 

I agree. This is NOT a rajyoga.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:05 AM, balwantsingh64 wrote:

 

> There is no Rajyoga for this combination

> in a Capricorn Lagna nativity.

> It can only be at the most, a Dhana Yoga,

> if and only if this combination is

> placed in the 11th or with milder

> results, if placed in the 2nd.

>

> But No Rajyoga at all.

>

> Balwant.

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " neenako " <neenako wrote:

>>

>> -

>> Yes Vic,

>> Strange though it may seem , for Capricorn lagna, these two in the

>> 7th form a rajyog. Mind you , the operative point is that FOR

>> CAPRICORN lagna it is a rajyog.

>>

>> Don't ask me to quote any book or author for this is something I

>> read a long time ago. But can vouch for it from experience.

>>

>> But then don't miss the debilitation of Mars and the exaltation

>> sign lord of Mars is giving a good neechbhanga to Mars in this

>> combination.

>>

>> Best Wishes.

>> -- In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Neenako,

>>>

>>> A rajyoga? What am I missing? Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd and

>> Mars

>>> rules the 4th and 11th. I don't see how this puts a Rajyoga on

> the

>> 7th

>>> House. If Mars ruled the 5th or 9th then I could see it. I know

>> there

>>> are a lot of other yogas that are also called RajaYoga, is this

>> one of

>>> those? Please clarify. Thanks

>>>

>>> Yours,

>>> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

>>> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>>>

>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 1:44 AM, neenako wrote:

>>>

>>>> -

>>>> Hi,

>>>>

>>>> Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house

>> constitutes a

>>>> rajyoga.

>>>>

>>>> Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have

>> not had

>>>> the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook this

>> post

>>>> if someone else has given a similar point of view.

>>>>

>>>> Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all

>> facets

>>>> of a persons chart are good.

>>>>

>>>> Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

>>>>

>>>> So the chart has to be studied in totality.

>>>>

>>>> Best Wishes.

>>>> -- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan <centumraju@>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear members

>>>>> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th

>> house

>>>> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any

>> problem in

>>>> his married life ?

>>>>> with kind regards

>>>>> raju

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ---

>>>>

>>>>

[Guest guest]

-

 

dear list members,

 

Anyone has examples of such a combination in their databanks?

 

We could study the same and then arrive at a decision?

-- In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

>

> Dear Balwant,

>

> I agree. This is NOT a rajyoga.

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

> On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:05 AM, balwantsingh64 wrote:

>

> > There is no Rajyoga for this combination

> > in a Capricorn Lagna nativity.

> > It can only be at the most, a Dhana Yoga,

> > if and only if this combination is

> > placed in the 11th or with milder

> > results, if placed in the 2nd.

> >

> > But No Rajyoga at all.

> >

> > Balwant.

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " neenako " <neenako@> wrote:

> >>

> >> -

> >> Yes Vic,

> >> Strange though it may seem , for Capricorn lagna, these two in

the

> >> 7th form a rajyog. Mind you , the operative point is that FOR

> >> CAPRICORN lagna it is a rajyog.

> >>

> >> Don't ask me to quote any book or author for this is something I

> >> read a long time ago. But can vouch for it from experience.

> >>

> >> But then don't miss the debilitation of Mars and the exaltation

> >> sign lord of Mars is giving a good neechbhanga to Mars in this

> >> combination.

> >>

> >> Best Wishes.

> >> -- In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara@> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Neenako,

> >>>

> >>> A rajyoga? What am I missing? Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd and

> >> Mars

> >>> rules the 4th and 11th. I don't see how this puts a Rajyoga on

> > the

> >> 7th

> >>> House. If Mars ruled the 5th or 9th then I could see it. I know

> >> there

> >>> are a lot of other yogas that are also called RajaYoga, is this

> >> one of

> >>> those? Please clarify. Thanks

> >>>

> >>> Yours,

> >>> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> >>> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

> >>>

> >>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 1:44 AM, neenako wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> -

> >>>> Hi,

> >>>>

> >>>> Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house

> >> constitutes a

> >>>> rajyoga.

> >>>>

> >>>> Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have

> >> not had

> >>>> the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook

this

> >> post

> >>>> if someone else has given a similar point of view.

> >>>>

> >>>> Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all

> >> facets

> >>>> of a persons chart are good.

> >>>>

> >>>> Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

> >>>>

> >>>> So the chart has to be studied in totality.

> >>>>

> >>>> Best Wishes.

> >>>> -- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan

<centumraju@>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Dear members

> >>>>> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th

> >> house

> >>>> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any

> >> problem in

> >>>> his married life ?

> >>>>> with kind regards

> >>>>> raju

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> ---

> >>>>

> >>>>