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what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house alonwith mars

for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem in his married life ?

with kind regards

raju

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Hello Raju,

 

You say Capricorn Lagna.

 

So the 2nd house, the house of family and status, has the AQUARIUS , the

mooltrikona sign of the SATURN who is retrograde in the Cancer sign with Mars.

How far is the Mars from the Saturn? Anyway, they are associated.

 

I think there will be conflicts in the family life, with the wife.

 

Check the navamansa.

 

Need full chart.

 

Regards.

 

Babu.

 

 

Raju kannan

Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:28 AM

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effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with mars

 

 

Dear members

what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house alonwith mars

for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem in his married life ?

with kind regards

raju

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Raju,

 

What do YOU think? You should at least attempt to make an

interpretation. Consider the intrinsice natures of Mars and Saurn, and

consider the houses they rule. Also consider the qualities of Cancer.

(the 7th House)... But them all together and tell us what you come up

with?

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Raju kannan wrote:

 

> Dear members

> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem

> in his married life ?

> with kind regards

> raju

>

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Dear Babu,

 

Please explain why you attribute " status " to the 2nd house? Do you

really mean " wealth " ?

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Narendra wrote:

 

> Hello Raju,

>

> You say Capricorn Lagna.

>

> So the 2nd house, the house of family and status, has the

> AQUARIUS , the mooltrikona sign of the SATURN who is retrograde in

> the Cancer sign with Mars. How far is the Mars from the Saturn?

> Anyway, they are associated.

>

> I think there will be conflicts in the family life, with the wife.

>

> Check the navamansa.

>

> Need full chart.

>

> Regards.

>

> Babu.

>

>

> Raju kannan

> Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:28 AM

> jyotish-vidya

> effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house

> with mars

>

>

> Dear members

> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem

> in his married life ?

> with kind regards

> raju

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear vicji

the mars is in debilitated condition occcupying with retrograde saturn. both

are enemies and occupying the moon house (female). i think if he marries early(

before 30) he will lose his life partner. am i correct ? or hot.i read some

where if malefics occupies 7th house then late marriage is advisable. i do not

know reason . if any one knows please let me know.

with regards

raju

 

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

 

> Vic D <vicdicara

> Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with

mars

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, July 10, 2008, 3:06 PM

> Dear Raju,

>

> What do YOU think? You should at least attempt to make an

> interpretation. Consider the intrinsice natures of Mars and

> Saurn, and

> consider the houses they rule. Also consider the qualities

> of Cancer.

> (the 7th House)... But them all together and tell us what

> you come up

> with?

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

> On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Raju kannan wrote:

>

> > Dear members

> > what would be the effect if retrograde saturn

> occupying 7th house

> > alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there

> be any problem

> > in his married life ?

> > with kind regards

> > raju

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi,

 

Yes, I mean the wealth, the financial being. Then again, The Mars, lord of the

11th and the 4th is associated with the Saturn in the 7th house IN CANCER,

where the MARS is in fall

this could lead to disturbed childhood and troublesome parentage, and besides

being the lprd of the 11th , The MARS could lead some financial discord in

relation to the partner and estates, lands & buildings).

 

Please correct me if it is wrong.

 

Regards.

 

Babu.

 

 

Vic D

Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:38 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with mars

 

 

Dear Babu,

 

Please explain why you attribute " status " to the 2nd house? Do you

really mean " wealth " ?

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Narendra wrote:

 

> Hello Raju,

>

> You say Capricorn Lagna.

>

> So the 2nd house, the house of family and status, has the

> AQUARIUS , the mooltrikona sign of the SATURN who is retrograde in

> the Cancer sign with Mars. How far is the Mars from the Saturn?

> Anyway, they are associated.

>

> I think there will be conflicts in the family life, with the wife.

>

> Check the navamansa.

>

> Need full chart.

>

> Regards.

>

> Babu.

>

>

> Raju kannan

> Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:28 AM

> jyotish-vidya

> effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house

> with mars

>

>

> Dear members

> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem

> in his married life ?

> with kind regards

> raju

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Raju, Babu, et. al:

 

You are asking about Rx Saturn and Mars conjunct in the 7th House for

Capricorn ascendants. Let's first observe the facts:

 

1 - THE NATURE OF THE PLANETS

 

Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

and drive to overcome and conquer.

 

Saturn is intrinsically harmful due to grief, loneliness, peculiarity,

and delay; but can be beneficial in giving spiritual wisdom, tenacity,

and staying power.

 

 

 

2 - THE LORDSHIPS OF THE PLANETS

 

MARS rules the 4th and 11th.

 

The 4th House concerns Emotions, The Mother, the Home, Educational

Degrees, and property. The 11th House concerns fulfillment of desires,

etc. NOTE a double indication of property from both Mars and the 4th

House.

 

SATURN rules the 1st and the 2nd

 

The first is the manifest nature of the person's life. The second is

artha - daily wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of

knowledge.

 

 

 

3. THE PLACEMENTS OF THE PLANETS

 

MARS in the 7th...

 

Excessive energy, ambition and competitiveness in marriage and one's

important life partnerships. But, possibly a lot of strength passion

and drive for the same. Very probably the acquisition of personal real-

estate is of importance in relation to marriage and partnerships.

 

Conncetions between mother, emotions, home, education and marriage.

 

Connections between desire fulfilment, friends, easy money and marriage.

 

SATURN in the 7th...

 

Delay, grief, sickliness, etc. in marriage and partnerships, but

possibly a lot of spiritual wisdom from them, and potential tenacity

and reliability in them.

 

 

4. THE SIGNS

 

Cancer is the 7th house, which is watery and emotional. Mars is firey

and Saturn is Watery. It is not good for either. Mars will go into a

fall here, Saturn is not affected as badly. Mars is already connected

with emotions by being Lord of the 4th House - now it is connected on

TWO accounts (due to also being in Cancer) and therefore you can be

twice as sure of a prediction regarding emotional conflicts and passion.

 

 

5. POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS

 

MARS: Marriage and partnerships are affected - sometimes in a

significantly negative way - by personal real estate. There is

negative energy from the mother adversely affecting the marriage in a

harmful or combative way. The mother will argue with the spouse more

than normal. The spouse will not like the native's mother very much.

Emotions will be difficult to communicate between the partners and

there will be argument and misunderstanding as a result. Lack of

friends and felicity will cause undue stress upon marriage and

important relationships as well and this tension will also be the

cause of arguments in the relationships. The marriage will be

passionate and energetic, not boring.

 

SATURN: Marriage and partnerships will get delays because of family.

Father and mother will not approve, etc. The mate will be good with

food and adventurous in small day to day ways. The mate will be older

than the native and sickly on account of poor diet, lack of wealth,

sadness from the family, and unfulfilling daily activities.

 

 

DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE INTERPRETATIONS! Understand the *reasoning

process* by which I came to them. Also note that these are just the

BEGINNING of a possible interpretation, built only on the basic

factors. Note that mars has two connections that are twice confirmed:

personal real-estate, and emotions. Do not let go of these two things

as you continue refining the prediction and interpretation. Any

correlation confirmed twice is an anchor point you must stick to. Any

correlation confirmed more than twice is something you can stake a bet

on. Any correlation confirmed more than 4 or 5 times you can risk your

reputation on.

 

Please give at least as much effort to understand this as I have given

to explain it.

 

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

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Peanam Vicji,

 

Great explanation !   I m impress !

 

Rick

 

 

RP

 

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

 

Vic D <vicdicara

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with mars

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, July 10, 2008, 1:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raju, Babu, et. al:

 

You are asking about Rx Saturn and Mars conjunct in the 7th House for

Capricorn ascendants. Let's first observe the facts:

 

1 - THE NATURE OF THE PLANETS

 

Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

and drive to overcome and conquer.

 

Saturn is intrinsically harmful due to grief, loneliness, peculiarity,

and delay; but can be beneficial in giving spiritual wisdom, tenacity,

and staying power.

 

2 - THE LORDSHIPS OF THE PLANETS

 

MARS rules the 4th and 11th.

 

The 4th House concerns Emotions, The Mother, the Home, Educational

Degrees, and property. The 11th House concerns fulfillment of desires,

etc. NOTE a double indication of property from both Mars and the 4th

House.

 

SATURN rules the 1st and the 2nd

 

The first is the manifest nature of the person's life. The second is

artha - daily wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of

knowledge.

 

3. THE PLACEMENTS OF THE PLANETS

 

MARS in the 7th...

 

Excessive energy, ambition and competitiveness in marriage and one's

important life partnerships. But, possibly a lot of strength passion

and drive for the same. Very probably the acquisition of personal real-

estate is of importance in relation to marriage and partnerships.

 

Conncetions between mother, emotions, home, education and marriage.

 

Connections between desire fulfilment, friends, easy money and marriage.

 

SATURN in the 7th...

 

Delay, grief, sickliness, etc. in marriage and partnerships, but

possibly a lot of spiritual wisdom from them, and potential tenacity

and reliability in them.

 

4. THE SIGNS

 

Cancer is the 7th house, which is watery and emotional. Mars is firey

and Saturn is Watery. It is not good for either. Mars will go into a

fall here, Saturn is not affected as badly. Mars is already connected

with emotions by being Lord of the 4th House - now it is connected on

TWO accounts (due to also being in Cancer) and therefore you can be

twice as sure of a prediction regarding emotional conflicts and passion.

 

5. POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS

 

MARS: Marriage and partnerships are affected - sometimes in a

significantly negative way - by personal real estate. There is

negative energy from the mother adversely affecting the marriage in a

harmful or combative way. The mother will argue with the spouse more

than normal. The spouse will not like the native's mother very much.

Emotions will be difficult to communicate between the partners and

there will be argument and misunderstanding as a result. Lack of

friends and felicity will cause undue stress upon marriage and

important relationships as well and this tension will also be the

cause of arguments in the relationships. The marriage will be

passionate and energetic, not boring.

 

SATURN: Marriage and partnerships will get delays because of family.

Father and mother will not approve, etc. The mate will be good with

food and adventurous in small day to day ways. The mate will be older

than the native and sickly on account of poor diet, lack of wealth,

sadness from the family, and unfulfilling daily activities.

 

DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE INTERPRETATIONS! Understand the *reasoning

process* by which I came to them. Also note that these are just the

BEGINNING of a possible interpretation, built only on the basic

factors. Note that mars has two connections that are twice confirmed:

personal real-estate, and emotions. Do not let go of these two things

as you continue refining the prediction and interpretation. Any

correlation confirmed twice is an anchor point you must stick to. Any

correlation confirmed more than twice is something you can stake a bet

on. Any correlation confirmed more than 4 or 5 times you can risk your

reputation on.

 

Please give at least as much effort to understand this as I have given

to explain it.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicast rologer.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you, Vic.

 

Regards.

 

Babu.

jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

>

> Dear Raju, Babu, et. al:

>

> You are asking about Rx Saturn and Mars conjunct in the 7th House for

> Capricorn ascendants. Let's first observe the facts:

>

> 1 - THE NATURE OF THE PLANETS

>

> Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

> competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

> and drive to overcome and conquer.

>

> Saturn is intrinsically harmful due to grief, loneliness, peculiarity,

> and delay; but can be beneficial in giving spiritual wisdom, tenacity,

> and staying power.

>

>

>

> 2 - THE LORDSHIPS OF THE PLANETS

>

> MARS rules the 4th and 11th.

>

> The 4th House concerns Emotions, The Mother, the Home, Educational

> Degrees, and property. The 11th House concerns fulfillment of desires,

> etc. NOTE a double indication of property from both Mars and the 4th

> House.

>

> SATURN rules the 1st and the 2nd

>

> The first is the manifest nature of the person's life. The second is

> artha - daily wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of

> knowledge.

>

>

>

> 3. THE PLACEMENTS OF THE PLANETS

>

> MARS in the 7th...

>

> Excessive energy, ambition and competitiveness in marriage and one's

> important life partnerships. But, possibly a lot of strength passion

> and drive for the same. Very probably the acquisition of personal

real-

> estate is of importance in relation to marriage and partnerships.

>

> Conncetions between mother, emotions, home, education and marriage.

>

> Connections between desire fulfilment, friends, easy money and

marriage.

>

> SATURN in the 7th...

>

> Delay, grief, sickliness, etc. in marriage and partnerships, but

> possibly a lot of spiritual wisdom from them, and potential tenacity

> and reliability in them.

>

>

> 4. THE SIGNS

>

> Cancer is the 7th house, which is watery and emotional. Mars is firey

> and Saturn is Watery. It is not good for either. Mars will go into a

> fall here, Saturn is not affected as badly. Mars is already connected

> with emotions by being Lord of the 4th House - now it is connected on

> TWO accounts (due to also being in Cancer) and therefore you can be

> twice as sure of a prediction regarding emotional conflicts and

passion.

>

>

> 5. POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS

>

> MARS: Marriage and partnerships are affected - sometimes in a

> significantly negative way - by personal real estate. There is

> negative energy from the mother adversely affecting the marriage in a

> harmful or combative way. The mother will argue with the spouse more

> than normal. The spouse will not like the native's mother very much.

> Emotions will be difficult to communicate between the partners and

> there will be argument and misunderstanding as a result. Lack of

> friends and felicity will cause undue stress upon marriage and

> important relationships as well and this tension will also be the

> cause of arguments in the relationships. The marriage will be

> passionate and energetic, not boring.

>

> SATURN: Marriage and partnerships will get delays because of family.

> Father and mother will not approve, etc. The mate will be good with

> food and adventurous in small day to day ways. The mate will be older

> than the native and sickly on account of poor diet, lack of wealth,

> sadness from the family, and unfulfilling daily activities.

>

>

> DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE INTERPRETATIONS! Understand the *reasoning

> process* by which I came to them. Also note that these are just the

> BEGINNING of a possible interpretation, built only on the basic

> factors. Note that mars has two connections that are twice confirmed:

> personal real-estate, and emotions. Do not let go of these two things

> as you continue refining the prediction and interpretation. Any

> correlation confirmed twice is an anchor point you must stick to. Any

> correlation confirmed more than twice is something you can stake a bet

> on. Any correlation confirmed more than 4 or 5 times you can risk your

> reputation on.

>

> Please give at least as much effort to understand this as I have given

> to explain it.

>

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

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Dear Vic,

 

Vic you wrote

> Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

> competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

> and drive to overcome and conquer.

 

If this line is about mars in general, then I would like to put a few lines.

 

Mars may be controlling energy, drive etc, but how can we put the label

" excessive " . No way.

Same for Saturn etc.

 

Every planet has his " portfolio of virtues " , excess or less, malefic or

benefic is based on multiple factors.

Every planet is as spiritual as any other.

 

Mars in 7th may be devastating (confused irritating energy in partnership)

for some and really great (strong drive and enthusiasm with partners) for

some.

From where does the difference come.

 

I think we have to see the power of a house and also the chanelling of

energy or effect of planets in various houses.

 

First how that power of the house itself is, due to various effects.

Second how the concerned planets effects acts in various houses combined

with First.

 

I think SAV and individual planets SAV is what is needed here.

 

Regards

-m-

 

 

-

" Vic D " <vicdicara

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:52 PM

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with

mars

 

 

> Dear Raju, Babu, et. al:

>

> You are asking about Rx Saturn and Mars conjunct in the 7th House for

> Capricorn ascendants. Let's first observe the facts:

>

> 1 - THE NATURE OF THE PLANETS

>

> Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

> competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

> and drive to overcome and conquer.

>

> Saturn is intrinsically harmful due to grief, loneliness, peculiarity,

> and delay; but can be beneficial in giving spiritual wisdom, tenacity,

> and staying power.

>

>

>

> 2 - THE LORDSHIPS OF THE PLANETS

>

> MARS rules the 4th and 11th.

>

> The 4th House concerns Emotions, The Mother, the Home, Educational

> Degrees, and property. The 11th House concerns fulfillment of desires,

> etc. NOTE a double indication of property from both Mars and the 4th

> House.

>

> SATURN rules the 1st and the 2nd

>

> The first is the manifest nature of the person's life. The second is

> artha - daily wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of

> knowledge.

>

>

>

> 3. THE PLACEMENTS OF THE PLANETS

>

> MARS in the 7th...

>

> Excessive energy, ambition and competitiveness in marriage and one's

> important life partnerships. But, possibly a lot of strength passion

> and drive for the same. Very probably the acquisition of personal real-

> estate is of importance in relation to marriage and partnerships.

>

> Conncetions between mother, emotions, home, education and marriage.

>

> Connections between desire fulfilment, friends, easy money and marriage.

>

> SATURN in the 7th...

>

> Delay, grief, sickliness, etc. in marriage and partnerships, but

> possibly a lot of spiritual wisdom from them, and potential tenacity

> and reliability in them.

>

>

> 4. THE SIGNS

>

> Cancer is the 7th house, which is watery and emotional. Mars is firey

> and Saturn is Watery. It is not good for either. Mars will go into a

> fall here, Saturn is not affected as badly. Mars is already connected

> with emotions by being Lord of the 4th House - now it is connected on

> TWO accounts (due to also being in Cancer) and therefore you can be

> twice as sure of a prediction regarding emotional conflicts and passion.

>

>

> 5. POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS

>

> MARS: Marriage and partnerships are affected - sometimes in a

> significantly negative way - by personal real estate. There is

> negative energy from the mother adversely affecting the marriage in a

> harmful or combative way. The mother will argue with the spouse more

> than normal. The spouse will not like the native's mother very much.

> Emotions will be difficult to communicate between the partners and

> there will be argument and misunderstanding as a result. Lack of

> friends and felicity will cause undue stress upon marriage and

> important relationships as well and this tension will also be the

> cause of arguments in the relationships. The marriage will be

> passionate and energetic, not boring.

>

> SATURN: Marriage and partnerships will get delays because of family.

> Father and mother will not approve, etc. The mate will be good with

> food and adventurous in small day to day ways. The mate will be older

> than the native and sickly on account of poor diet, lack of wealth,

> sadness from the family, and unfulfilling daily activities.

>

>

> DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE INTERPRETATIONS! Understand the *reasoning

> process* by which I came to them. Also note that these are just the

> BEGINNING of a possible interpretation, built only on the basic

> factors. Note that mars has two connections that are twice confirmed:

> personal real-estate, and emotions. Do not let go of these two things

> as you continue refining the prediction and interpretation. Any

> correlation confirmed twice is an anchor point you must stick to. Any

> correlation confirmed more than twice is something you can stake a bet

> on. Any correlation confirmed more than 4 or 5 times you can risk your

> reputation on.

>

> Please give at least as much effort to understand this as I have given

> to explain it.

>

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

>

> ---

>

>

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thank you for your detailed explanation

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Vic D <vicdicara

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with mars

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raju, Babu, et. al:

 

 

 

You are asking about Rx Saturn and Mars conjunct in the 7th House for

 

Capricorn ascendants. Let's first observe the facts:

 

 

 

1 - THE NATURE OF THE PLANETS

 

 

 

Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

 

competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

 

and drive to overcome and conquer.

 

 

 

Saturn is intrinsically harmful due to grief, loneliness, peculiarity,

 

and delay; but can be beneficial in giving spiritual wisdom, tenacity,

 

and staying power.

 

 

 

2 - THE LORDSHIPS OF THE PLANETS

 

 

 

MARS rules the 4th and 11th.

 

 

 

The 4th House concerns Emotions, The Mother, the Home, Educational

 

Degrees, and property. The 11th House concerns fulfillment of desires,

 

etc. NOTE a double indication of property from both Mars and the 4th

 

House.

 

 

 

SATURN rules the 1st and the 2nd

 

 

 

The first is the manifest nature of the person's life. The second is

 

artha - daily wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of

 

knowledge.

 

 

 

3. THE PLACEMENTS OF THE PLANETS

 

 

 

MARS in the 7th...

 

 

 

Excessive energy, ambition and competitiveness in marriage and one's

 

important life partnerships. But, possibly a lot of strength passion

 

and drive for the same. Very probably the acquisition of personal real-

 

estate is of importance in relation to marriage and partnerships.

 

 

 

Conncetions between mother, emotions, home, education and marriage.

 

 

 

Connections between desire fulfilment, friends, easy money and marriage.

 

 

 

SATURN in the 7th...

 

 

 

Delay, grief, sickliness, etc. in marriage and partnerships, but

 

possibly a lot of spiritual wisdom from them, and potential tenacity

 

and reliability in them.

 

 

 

4. THE SIGNS

 

 

 

Cancer is the 7th house, which is watery and emotional. Mars is firey

 

and Saturn is Watery. It is not good for either. Mars will go into a

 

fall here, Saturn is not affected as badly. Mars is already connected

 

with emotions by being Lord of the 4th House - now it is connected on

 

TWO accounts (due to also being in Cancer) and therefore you can be

 

twice as sure of a prediction regarding emotional conflicts and passion.

 

 

 

5. POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS

 

 

 

MARS: Marriage and partnerships are affected - sometimes in a

 

significantly negative way - by personal real estate. There is

 

negative energy from the mother adversely affecting the marriage in a

 

harmful or combative way. The mother will argue with the spouse more

 

than normal. The spouse will not like the native's mother very much.

 

Emotions will be difficult to communicate between the partners and

 

there will be argument and misunderstanding as a result. Lack of

 

friends and felicity will cause undue stress upon marriage and

 

important relationships as well and this tension will also be the

 

cause of arguments in the relationships. The marriage will be

 

passionate and energetic, not boring.

 

 

 

SATURN: Marriage and partnerships will get delays because of family.

 

Father and mother will not approve, etc. The mate will be good with

 

food and adventurous in small day to day ways. The mate will be older

 

than the native and sickly on account of poor diet, lack of wealth,

 

sadness from the family, and unfulfilling daily activities.

 

 

 

DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE INTERPRETATIONS! Understand the *reasoning

 

process* by which I came to them. Also note that these are just the

 

BEGINNING of a possible interpretation, built only on the basic

 

factors. Note that mars has two connections that are twice confirmed:

 

personal real-estate, and emotions. Do not let go of these two things

 

as you continue refining the prediction and interpretation. Any

 

correlation confirmed twice is an anchor point you must stick to. Any

 

correlation confirmed more than twice is something you can stake a bet

 

on. Any correlation confirmed more than 4 or 5 times you can risk your

 

reputation on.

 

 

 

Please give at least as much effort to understand this as I have given

 

to explain it.

 

 

 

Yours,

 

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

 

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Dear Monica,

 

> Vic you wrote

>> Mars is intrinsically harmful due to excessive energy, ambition, and

>> competitiveness, but can be beneficial in giving strength, passion,

>> and drive to overcome and conquer.

>

> If this line is about mars in general, then I would like to put a

> few lines.

>

> Mars may be controlling energy, drive etc, but how can we put the

> label

> " excessive " . No way.

 

I disagree respectfully and will stand behind my description of Mars.

But I will clarify the meaning of what I wrote, since I think I was

not clear enough to you.

 

Mars signifies energy. Mars is a malefic, but can also act

beneficially in the right circumstances. When Mars is behaving

maliciously this energy becomes excessive and manifests in

competitiveness, argument, and anger, etc. When mars is behaving

beneficially the same energy will be in proper balance and thus give

strength, healthy passion, and a source of courage and drive to

overcome challenges, etc.

 

> Mars in 7th may be devastating (confused irritating energy in

> partnership)

> for some and really great (strong drive and enthusiasm with

> partners) for

> some.

> From where does the difference come.

 

I already discussed this at length in the post you are referring to.

 

Mars in the 7th is RARELY any good at all. Mars is a malefic by nature

and no wishful thinking can change that. This is not to say that there

are no positive side effect, but the main effect is negative - unless

there are extreme mitigating effects on mars (for example, in high

exaltation degree and tightly conjunct a strong benefic, while owning

auspicious houses).

 

 

> I think we have to see the power of a house and also the chanelling of

> energy or effect of planets in various houses.

 

That's exactly what I wrote, Monica... no?

 

 

> First how that power of the house itself is, due to various effects.

> Second how the concerned planets effects acts in various houses

> combined

> with First.

 

Yes, that is what I was showing Raju how to do.

 

 

> I think SAV and individual planets SAV is what is needed here.

 

I'll be frank. I don't recommend ANYONE to use ANYTHING they don't

fully understand. If I don't understand why a yoga works I will tell

you right here in black and white I am just simply going to ignore it.

I'm not personally into Ashtaka Varga and I am less and less into

using computer calculated Shad Balas where I don't clearly understand

how the computer comes up with the numbers that it does. If you love

it and it works well for you that is excellent. But if I don't know

WHY one house has a 37 and another house a 12 but I start making

predictions on that basis, I am just doing a disservice to myself and

my client.

 

We require our own well educated reasoning process. In my post, I was

explaining to a beginner how to begin doing astrology by developing

the correct reasoning process. Therefore I am really not sure what you

are taking exception to.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

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Dear Vic

Here is the copy paste from BPHS with some important points at top regarding

Ashtak Varga.

 

 

Some points on why using AshtakaVarg is important.

1.

O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds of effects, relating to the

Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views of many sages and Acharyas,

but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a particular effect is

quite correct, after considering the contradictions in the effects by the

movements of the various Grahas.

-----Special Stress on " but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a

particular effect is quite correct " .

 

2.

Will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the Shastra, in which

there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of happiness and

sorrows and for determination of the longevity.

-----Parashar states that using this method takes out a lot of subjectivity

and gives clear cut indications.

 

3.

13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn and

Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are judged in the

same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven Grahas, named,

as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked by dots

(Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical lines

(Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of the

horoscope and predictions be made. "

 

Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The meaning of

AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words it is the

combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference to the

seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and malefic

marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference to the

position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

 

 

 

Regards

-m-

 

 

Ch. 66. AshtakaVarg

 

1-4. Maitreya said: " O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds

of effects, relating to the Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views

of many sages and Acharyas, but it is not possible to say with certainty, if

a particular effect is quite correct, after considering the contradictions

in the effects by the movements of the various Grahas. As because of sinful

deeds, committed by people in Kaliyuga, their minds have become blunt, be

kind enough to describe a method, which would enable even the shallow minded

persons to ascertain their happiness and sorrows and determine their

longevity on the basis of the positions of the Grahas in transit. "

 

5-6. The sage replied: " O Brahmin! You have put a very intelligent

question. I will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the

Shastra, in which there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of

happiness and sorrows and for determination of the longevity. You now listen

to me carefully.

 

7-11. If the 12 Bhavas, including Lagn, are occupied by, or aspected

by benefic Grahas, they yield auspicious results, according to their

characteristics, but this happens, where the Grahas concerned are in their

exaltation Rasi, own Rasi, or posited in a benefic Bhava. There will be no

good effects, if such Grahas are in depression, or posited in an

inauspicious Bhava. Similarly the Bhavas, associated with, or aspected by

malefics in depression, or posited in malefic Bhavas, yield adverse results,

according to their characteristics. If such Grahas be in their exaltation

Rasi, the effects will not be adverse. This is how the general effects have

been described by the Daivajnas. I have only repeated those effects. The

main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to determine the longevity and

joys and sorrows of the people, but because the movements of the Grahas are

so subtle, even sages, like Vashista and Brihaspati, have not been able to

be quite definite in this respect. Then how can a common man, particularly

in Kaliyuga, do so.

 

12. There are two divisions, or parts of the Jyotish Shastra, namely

general and particular. I have already dealt with the general part. I now

come to the other part, which deals with this subject in particular.

 

13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn and

Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are judged in the

same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven Grahas, named,

as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked by dots

(Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical lines

(Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of the

horoscope and predictions be made. "

 

Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The meaning of

AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words it is the

combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference to the

seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and malefic

marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference to the

position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

 

16. Five Grahas in 1st, 2nd, 8th, 3rd and the 12th Bhavas from Surya

are Karanprad (dot significators). Similarly four Grahas in the 7th and 4th,

three Grahas in the 6th and 9th, six Grahas in the 5th, 2 Grahas in the 10th

and one Grah in the 11th are dot significators.

 

17-19. Thus Lagn, Candr, Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 1st, 2nd and 8th

from Surya; Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru in the 12th; Budh, Candr,

Sukr, Guru in the 4th; Lagn, Candr, Sukr in the 9th; Surya, Sani and Mangal

in the 6th; Lagn, Budh, Guru and Candr in the 7th; Sukr in the 11th; Surya,

Sani, Sukr, Guru and Mangal in the 3rd; Guru and Sukr in the 10th; Surya,

Sani, Candr, Lagn Mangal and Sukr in the 5th are Karanprad, or dot

indicators.

 

20-22. In Candr's AshtakaVarg 6 Grahas in the 9th and the 2nd, 5

Grahas in the 4th, 8th and the 1st, one Grah in the 10th and the 3rd, 4

Grahas in the 5th, 3 Grahas in the 6th and the 7th and 1st, eight in the

12th are Karanprad. Thus Lagn, Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr, these five in

the 1st; Lagn, Budh, Surya, Candr, Sani and Sukr, these 6 in the 2nd; Guru

in the 3rd; Surya, Sani, Candr, Lagn and Mangal, these 5 in the 4th; Sukr,

Budh, Guru, these 3 in the 6th; Mangal, Lagn and Sani, these 3 in the 7th;

Mangal, Lagn, Sani, Sukr and Candr, these five in the 8th; Lagn, Surya,

Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru, these 6 in the 9th; Sani only in the 10th; none

in the 11th; all the eight in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

These Grahas in the other Bhavas are Rekhaprad (line significators).

 

23-27. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal 6 Grahas in the 12th, 4th and 7th,

5 Grahas in the 5th, 6 Grahas in the 2nd, 7 Grahas in the 9th, 5 Grahas in

the 1st and 8th, 4 Grahas in the 3rd, 3 Grahas in the 10th and 2 Grahas in

the 6th are Karanprad. In the 11th no Grah is Karanprad. In other words all

the Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhaprad. Thus Surya,

Candr, Budh, Guru and Sukr, these five in the 1st; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Budh,

Guru and Sani, these 6 in the 2nd; Sukr, Mangal, Guru and Sani, these 4 in

the 3rd; Surya, Candr, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 6 in the 4th; Candr,

Mangal, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Mangal and Sani, these 2 in

the 6th; Budh, Candr, Surya, Sukr, Guru and Lagn, these 6 in the 7th; Budh,

Candr, Surya, Lagn and Guru, these five in the 8th; Surya, Candr, Mangal,

Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th; Sukr, Candr and Budh, these 3

in the 10th; none in the 11th; Surya, Sani, Budh, Candr, Lagn and Mangal,

these 6 in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

 

28-30. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh 3 Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th,

6th and 9th, 2 Grahas in the 8th, 6 Grahas in the 3rd and the 7th, none in

the 11th, 5 Grahas in the 5th and 12th are Karanprad. Thus Surya, Candr and

Guru, these 3 in the 1st; Guru, Surya and Budh, these 3 in the 2nd; Lagn,

Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru, these 6 in the 3rd; Budh, Surya and

Guru, these 3 in the 4th; Guru, Mangal, Candr, Sani and Lagn, these 5 in the

5th; Sukr, Sani and Mangal, these 3 in the 6th; Budh, Candr, Lagn, Surya,

Sukr and Guru, these 6 in the 7th; Budh and Surya, these 2 in the 8th; Guru,

Candr and Lagn, these 3 in the 9th; Surya, Guru and Sukr, these 3 in the

10th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Sukr these 5 in the

12th from their own places are Karanprad.

 

31-34. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru one Grah in the 2nd and 11th, 2

Grahas in the 10th, 7 Grahas in the 12th, 4 Grahas in the 6th, 5 Grahas in

the 8th and 3rd, 3 Grahas in the remaining Bhavas are Karanprad. Thus Sukr,

Candr and Sani, these 3 in the 1st; Sani in the 2nd and 11th; Lagn, Mangal,

Candr, Budh and Sukr, these 5 in the 3rd; Surya, Guru and Mangal, these 3 in

the 5th; Sukr, Sani and Candr, these 3 in the 4th; Budh, Sukr and Sani,

these 3 in the 7th; Guru, Mangal, Surya and Candr, these 4 in the 6th; all

except Sani, these 7 in the 12th; Candr and Sani, these 2 in the 10th; Sani,

Mangal and Guru, these 3 in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Sukr, Candr and Budh, these

5 in the 8th from their own places are Karanprad.

 

35-38. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr 2 Grahas in the 5th, 8th and 3rd, 5

Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 12th, 10th, 8 Grahas in the 7th, 6 Grahas in the

6th, one in the 9th, 3 in the 4th, none in the 11th are Karanpradas. Thus

Surya, Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sani, these 5 in the 1st and the 2nd; all the

8 Grahas in the 7th; Guru and Surya, these 2 in the 3rd; Surya and Mangal,

these 2 in the 5th; Surya in 9th; Surya, Budh and Guru, these 3 in the 4th;

Mangal and Budh, these 2 in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Sani, Lagn and

Guru, these 6 in the 6th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Sani, Budh, Sukr and Guru,

these 5 in the 12th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Candr, Surya, these 5 in the 10th

from their own places are Karanpradas.

 

39-42. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani 7 Grahas in the 2nd, 7th, 9th, 6

Grahas in the 8th, Lagn and 4th, 4 Grahas in the 10th, 3rd and 12th, one

Grah in the 6th, 5 Grahas in the 5th, none in the 11th are Karanpradas. Thus

Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 6 in the 4th and the 1st;

Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the 2nd and the

7th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th;

Candr, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 4 in the 10th; Guru, Surya, Budh and Sukr,

these 4 in the 3rd; Surya in the 6th; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Surya, these 4 in

the 12th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Budh and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Candr,

Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 6 in the 8th; none in the 11th from

their own places are Karanpradas. The remaining places are Rekhapradas and

are auspicious.

 

43-45. The sage said. Now I will describe the auspicious Bhavas for

the benefit of the Acharyas. In the AshtakaVarg of Surya: Sani, Mangal and

Surya in the 2nd, 8th and 1st; Guru and Budh in the 5th; Budh, Candr and

Lagn in the 3rd; Lagn, Surya, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn, Surya, Sani,

Mangal, Budh and Candr in the 10th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sani

and Lagn in the 11th; Lagn, Sukr and Budh in the 12th; Lagn, Sukr, Budh,

Guru and Candr in the 6th; Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr in the 7th; Surya,

Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru in the 9th from their own places are

Rekhapradas.

 

46-48. In the AshtakaVarg of Candr: Budh, Candr and Guru in the 1st;

Guru and Mangal in the 2nd; Budh, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani, Sukr and Lagn

in the 3rd; Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 4th; Mangal, Budh, Sukr and Sani in

the 5th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Lagn in the 6th; Surya, Candr, Guru,

Budh and Sukr in the 7th; Surya, Budh and Guru in the 8th; Sukr and Candr in

the 9th; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Candr, Lagn and Mangal in the 10th and all

the 8 Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhapradas. No Grah is

Rekhaprad in the 12th.

 

49-50. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal: Lagn, Sani and Mangal in the 1st;

Mangal in the 2nd; Lagn, Budh, Candr and Surya in the 3rd; Sani and Mangal

in the 4th; Budh and Surya in the 5th; Budh, Candr, Guru, Surya, Lagn and

Sukr in the 6th; Sani and Mangal in the 7th; Sani, Mangal and Sukr in the

8th; Sani in the 9th; Mangal, Surya, Guru, Sani and Lagn in 10th; all in the

11th and Guru and Sukr in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

 

51-52. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh: Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Sukr and Budh

in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr, Sukr and Sani in the 2nd; Sukr and Budh in

the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Sukr and Mangal in the 4th; Budh, Sani and Sukr

in the 5th; Guru, Budh, Surya, Candr and Lagn in the 6th; Mangal and Sani in

the 7th; Mangal, Sani, Lagn, Candr, Sukr and Guru in the 8th; Sani, Mangal,

Surya, Budh and Sukr in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Budh and Candr in the

10th; all in the 11th and Guru, Budh and Surya in the 12th from their own

places are Rekhapradas.

 

53-55. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru: Lagn, Mangal, Surya and Budh in the

1st and 4th; Guru, Lagn, Mangal, Surya, Budh, Candr and Sukr in the 2nd;

Sani, Guru and Surya in the 3rd; Sukr, Candr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the

5th; Sukr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the 6th; Lagn, Mangal, Guru, Surya and

Candr in the 7th; Guru, Surya and Mangal in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Lagn,

Candr and Budh in the 9th; Guru, Budh, Mangal, Surya, Sukr and Lagn in the

10th; all except Sani in the 11th and Sani in the 12th from their own places

are Rekhapradas.

 

56-58. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr: Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 1st;

Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 2nd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Budh, Sani and Mangal in

the 3rd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn, Budh, Candr,

Guru, Sani and Sukr in the 5th; Budh and Mangal in the 6th; none in the 7th;

Sukr, Surya, Candr, Guru, Lagn and Sani in the 8th; all except Surya in the

9th; Sukr, Guru and Sani in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Candr and

Surya in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

 

59-60. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani: Surya and Lagn in the 1st; Surya in

the 2nd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal and Sani in the 3rd; Lagn and Surya in the 4th;

Guru, Sani and Mangal in the 5th; all except Surya in the 6th; Surya in the

7th; Surya and Budh in the 8th; Budh in the 9th; Surya, Mangal, Lagn and

Budh in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 12th

from their own places are Rekhapradas.

 

61-64. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn 3 Grahas in the 1st and 4th, 2

Grahas in the 3rd, 5 Grahas in the 2nd, 6 Grahas in the 5th, 8th, 9th and

12th, one Grah in the 10th, 11th and 6th and all except Guru in the 7th are

Karanpradas. Thus Lagn, Surya and Candr in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr,

Surya and Sani in the 2nd; Guru and Budh in the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal,

Budh, Sani and Surya in the 5th; Lagn, Candr and Mangal in the 4th; Sukr in

the 6th; all except Guru in the 7th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru and

Sani in the 8th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh and Sani in the 9th; Sukr

in the 10th and 11th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 12th

from their own places are Karanpradas.

 

65-68. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn: Sani, Budh, Sukr, Guru and Mangal

in the 1st; Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 2nd; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sukr

and Sani in 3rd; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 4th; Guru and Sukr

in the 5th; all except Sukr in the 6th; Guru in the 7th; Budh and Sukr in

the 8th; Guru and Sukr in the 9th; all except Sukr in the 10th; all except

Sukr in the 11th and Surya and Candr in the 12th from their own places are

Rekhapradas.

 

69. In the charts of AshtakaVarg Karan is signified by a Bindu, or dot

(0) and Sthan by a Rekhapradas, or line (1). Karan is inauspicious, while

Sthan is auspicious.

 

70-72. To identify the auspicious and inauspicious Bhavas in the

AshtakaVarg a chart should be prepared with 14 horizontal lines and ten

vertical lines. The form of the chart so prepared will consist of 117

apartments. In this chart in the first line incorporates the names of the

seven Grahas and Lagn. In the first column write the numbers of all the 12

Bhavas. After this mark dots under the Grah and against the Karanprad

Bhavas. By doing so the Karanprad Bhavas of all the 8 Grahas, including

Lagn, will become known clearly and whenever the AshtakaVarg Grah will pass

in transit the dot-marked Bhavas, he will yield unfavourable results. In his

transit to other Bhavas he would give favourable effects.The following table

shows the dots in the AshtakaVarg of Surya.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ch. 70. Effects of the AshtakaVarg

 

1-6. The matters to be considered from Surya and other Grahas are, as

follows. Surya - the soul (Atma), nature, physical strength, joys and

sorrows and father. Candr - mind, wisdom, joy and mother. Mangal - co-borns,

strength, qualities and land. Budh - business dealings, livelihood and

friends. Guru - nourishment of the body, learning, son (children), wealth

and property. Sukr - marriage, enjoyments, conveyance, prostitution and

sexual intercourse with women. Sani - longevity, source of maintenance,

grief, danger, losses and death. The following procedure should be adopted

to ascertain the effects of a house. Multiply the number of Rekhas with the

Yog Pinda (Rasi Pinda plus Grah Pinda), connected with the AshtakaVarg of

that Grah and divide the product by 27. The remainder will denote the number

of the Nakshatr. During the transit of Sani in that Nakshatr the Bhava

concerned will be harmed.

 

7-9. The 9th house from Surya at the time of birth deals with father.

The Rekhas of that Rasi, as marked in Surya's AshtakaVarg, should be

multiplied by the Yog Pinda and the product be divided by 27. The remainder

will denote the number of Nakshatr. The father will be in distress, or he

will otherwise suffer, when Sani in transit passes through the Nakshatr.

Even, when Sani passes in transit the Trikon Nakshatras, father, or

relatives, like father, may die, or suffer.

 

Notes. By dividing the 27 Nakshatras in three equal parts, the 1st,

10th and 19th fall in Trikon from each other. Surya is PitraKarak

(significator of father). Therefore all about father is ascertained from the

Surya's AshtakaVarg.

 

10-11. If the AshtakaVarg Rekha number is multiplied by the Yog Pinda

and the product is divided by 12, the remainder will denote the Rasi,

through which, or through the Rasis in Trikon to it, the transit of Sani

will cause harm, or unfavourable effects to father. Death of the father may

occur, if the Dasa prevailing at that time be unfavourable. If the Dasa be

favourable, father will face only adverse effects.

 

(12-15 Arishta to Father) 12-14. The death of the father may be

expected, if Rahu, Sani, or Mangal are in the 4th from Surya at the time of

transit of Sani through any of the above three Rasis (Trikon Rasis). The

death of the father will come to pass by such transit, if at that time Sani,

associated, or aspected by a malefic, be in the 9th from Lagn, or Candr

and/or the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th from Lagn be in operation. The death

does not take place, if a favourable Dasa be in force at the time of Sani's

transit. This should be kept in mind by the Jyotishis, while making

predictions.

 

15. If the Rasi of Lagn of the native be the 8th Rasi from Lagn of the

father, or, if the Lord of the 8th from father's Lagn be in Lagn of the

native, he takes over all the responsibilities of his father after the

latter's death.

 

16-18. The father enjoys happiness in the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th

from Lagn. The native is obedient to his father, if the Lord of the 4th be

in Lagn, or the 11th, or in the 11th, or 10th from Candr. If the birth be in

the 3rd Rasi from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native makes proper use

of the wealth, inherited from his father. If the birth be in the 10th Rasi

from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native will inherit all the good

qualities of his father. If the Lord of the 10th be in Lagn, the native will

be more distinguished than his father.

 

19-20. No auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

performed in the month of Rasis (that is, when Surya transits that Rasi),

which has more number of dots in Surya's AshtakaVarg. The same applies to

the Samvatsar of that Rasi (that is, when the mean Guru transits that Rasi).

Auspicious functions should be performed, when Surya, or the mean Guru

transits the Rasi, which has more Rekhas in Surya's AshtakaVarg.

 

21-23. In the same manner no auspicious functions should be performed

during the transit of Candr in the Rasi, which has larger number of dots in

Candr's AshtakaVarg. Consideration, regarding mother, house and village,

should be done from the 4th Bhava from Candr. Therefore multiply the number

of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Candr by the Yog Pinda of that AshtakaVarg

and divide the product by 27. The death of, or distress to mother may be

expected, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted by the

remainder. Then divide the product by 12. The death of the mother may occur,

when Sani transits the Rasi, denoted by the remainder. Distress to mother

may be predicted, when Sani transits the Nakshatras, or Rasis in Trikon to

Nakshatr and Rasi, indicated above.

 

24-27. Consideration of brothers (co-borns), valour and patience is

done from Mangal's AshtakaVarg. If the number of Rekha is larger in any Rasi

after Trikon Shodhana, there will be gains of land, happiness from wife and

great happiness to brother, when Mangal passes through that Rasi in transit.

If Mangal be weak, the brothers will be short lived. There will be distress

to brothers, when Mangal transits a Rasi without Rekhas. Here also the Yog

Pinda of Mangal should be multiplied by the number of Rekhas in the

AshtakaVarg and the product be divided separately by 27 and 12. The

remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. The brother will suffer,

whenever Sani transits that Nakshatr, or Rasi (or the Trikon Nakshatras, or

Rasis).

 

28-29. Consideration in regard to family, maternal uncle and friends

should be done from the 4th Bhava from Budh. The family etc. will enjoy

happiness during the transit of Budh's AshtakaVarg. After performing Trikon

and Ekadhipatya Shodhana in Budh's AshtakaVarg, the happiness, or distress

of the family should be predicted from the transit of Sani through the

resultant Nakshatr and Rasi (and those in Trikon to them).

 

30-33. All about knowledge, religious inclinations of the native and

son (progeny) is to be ascertained from the 5th Bhava from Guru. If the

Rekhas in the 5th Bhava from Guru are larger in number in the AshtakaVarg,

there will be great happiness in respect of progeny. If the dots are larger

in number, the happiness in respect of progeny will be meagre. The number of

children are equal to the number of Rekhas in the 5th Bhava (from Guru),

provided it is not the Rasi of debilitation of Guru, or his enemy's Rasi. In

that case the number of children will be very limited. The number of

children is also equal to the number of Navams, in which the Lord of the 5th

from Guru is posited. Multiply the Yog Pinda of Guru by the number of Rekhas

in the AshtakaVarg and divide the product separately by 27 and 12. The

remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. Transit of Sani through that

Nakshatr and its Trikon Nakshatras and of that Rasi and its Trikon Rasis

will be inauspitious. During that period the knowledge, learning and

religious activities of the native will also be adversely affected.

 

34-36. There will be gain of wealth, land and happiness and marriage,

whenever Sukr passes in transit through the Rasis, which have larger number

of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Sukr. These gains will be from the

directions of the 7th Rasi from Sukr and of its Trikon Rasis. The effects

should be judged in the manner, already explained earlier, after multiplying

the Rekhas in the 7th Bhava from Sukr by the Yog Pinda.

 

37-40. The 8th Bhava from Sani signifies death, as well as longevity.

Assessment about longevity should be made from that Bhava through the

AshtakaVarg. Therefore predict distress to the native in the year, equal to

the number of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg from Lagn up to Sani. The year,

equal to the number of Rekhas from Sani up to Lagn, will also be of

distress. If in the year, equal to the total of the above Rekhas, Arishta

Dasa be also in operation, there can be possibility of death of the native.

 

41-42. Multiply the Yog Pinda by the number of Rekhas in the

AshtakaVarg and divide the product by 27. The death of the native will take

place, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted by the

remainder, or its Trikon Nakshatras. Again, divide the product by 12. The

native will face danger of death, when Sani passes in transit through the

Rasi, denoted by the remainder, or through its Trikon Rasis.

 

43-44. The results will be favourable, when Sani passes in transit

through Rasis, which have larger number of Rekhas in Sani's AshtakaVarg.

Sani's transit through Rasis, which have larger number of dots, will produce

only evil effects.

 

 

 

 

Ch. 71. Determination of Longevity through the AshtakaVarg

 

1-4. The sage said. I will now describe the method of determining

longevity from the AshtakaVarg. For this purpose the AshtakaVargas of Lagn

and all the Grahas have to be studied. The Rekhas in all the Rasis have been

allotted specific spans of life. The Rasi, which has no Rekhas, has been

allotted 2 days, that with one Rekha gets l½ days, one day for Rasi with 2

Rekhas, half day for Rasi with 3 Rekhas, 7½ days for Rasi with 4 Rekhas, 2

years for Rasi with 5 Rekhas, 4 years for Rasi with 6 Rekhas, 6 years for

Rasi with 7 Rekhas and 8 years for Rasi with 8 Rekhas. In this manner the

spans of life should be worked from Rekhas in all the AshtakaVargas. Half of

the sum total of all will be the longevity, based on AshtakaVarg.

 

 

 

 

Ch. 72. Aggregational AshtakaVargas

 

1-2. The sage said. O Brahmin! Write down a Rasi Kundali with 12

Bhavas, including Lagn. Then insert the total of the Rekhas in all the

AshtakaVargas of the Grahas in the Rasi concerned. The AshtakaVarg with such

Rekhas is called the Samuday AshtakaVarg, or the aggregational AshtakaVarg.

From this should be judged good and adverse effects of the Rasi Kundali.

 

3-5. In the aggregational AshtakaVarg the Rasi, which has more than 30

Rekhas, gives favourable effects, that, having between 25 and 30 Rekhas,

produces medium effects and that Rasi, who has less than 25 Rekhas, yields

adverse effects. Auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

performed, when the Grah, on whose basis the time and date of functions are

performed, moves into the Rasi with favourable effects. The Rasi, which is

productive of adverse effects should be avoided for these purposes. For

example, the strength of Candr (CandraBal) is generally acceptable for all

auspicious functions. Therefore auspicious functions should be performed, or

started, when Candr is in the Rasi with maximum number of Rekhas. The Grah

in the Rasi with favourable number of Rekhas produces auspicious effects and

the Grah in the Rasi with unfavourable number of Rekhas yields evil results.

 

6-6½. Amongst the 12 Bhavas more than 30 Rekhas advance the effects of

a Bhava, between 25 and 30 Rekhas produce medium effects and the effects of

the Bhava, which contains less than 25 Rekhas, get damaged.

 

Notes. From the above rules it can be interpreted, that, if there are

less than 25 Rekhas in 6th, 8th and 12th Bhava, their effects become

favourable. The effects will become adverse, if these Bhavas contain more

than 25 Rekhas.

 

7-8. If in a Rasi Kundali there are larger number of Rekhas in the

11th than those in 10th and there are smaller number of Rekhas in the 12th

than those in the 11th and Lagn contains largest number of Rekhas, the

native will be wealthy and will enjoy all kinds of comforts and luxury.

 

9-10. Divide the 12 Bhavas in 3 sections. There will be sufferings and

distress in that part of the life, which is represented by the section of

the Rasi Kundali with more malefics. There will be happiness etc., in the

part of the life, represented by the section of the Rasi Kundali, containing

more benefics. There will be mixed results in that area of life, when the

relative section of the Rasi Kundali has equal number of benefics and

malefics. The Bhavas from Lagn up to the 4th signify childhood, those from

5th to 8th youth and those from the 9th to 12th represent old age.

 

11-28. There will be danger of death in the month of the Rasi (period

of Surya's transit in that Rasi), which has 7, or less than 7 Rekhas in the

Samudaya AshtakaVarg. To ward off this evil effect 20 Tolas of gold and 2

heaps of sesame seeds, resembling the shape of a mountain, should be given

in charity. . possibility of death ., . 8. Tuladan of camphor is recommended

to obtain relief from this evil effect. . danger of snakes ., . 9. A chariot

with 7 horses should be given in charity .. . danger from weapons ., which

contains 10 .. An armour together with Vajra should be given in charity to

ward off .. . danger of disgrace for no cause ., . 11. An idol of the moon,

made of 10 Tolas of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of death

from drowning ., . 12. Land full of crops should be given in charity .. .

danger of death from wild and violent animals ., in which there are 13 .. A

Shaligram Shila should be given in charity .. . danger of death ., . 14. A

Varah Murti, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of the

wrath of the king ., . 15. An elephant should be given in charity .. .

danger of Arishta (calamity, disaster, or misfortune) ., . 16. A Kalpa

Vriksha, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger from

diseases ., that has 17 .. A cow and jaggery should be given in charity .. .

danger of conflict ., . 18. A cow, jewels, land and gold should be given in

charity .. . possibility of banishment from the homeland ., which has 19 ..

Family deity should be worshipped .. . loss of intelligence ., . 20. Goddess

Saraswati should be worshipped .. . distress from diseases ., that has 21 ..

A heap of grains, shaped, like a mountain, should be given in charity .. .

distress to kinsmen ., . 22. Gold should be given in charity .. The native

will be in distress ., . 23. An idol of the sun, made of 7 Tolas of gold,

should be given in charity .. . death of the kinsmen ., . 24. 10 cows should

be given in charity .. . loss of wisdom ., . 25. Goddess Saraswati should be

worshipped .. . loss of wealth ., . 26. Gold should be given in charity .. .

loss of wealth ., . 27. Sri Sukta Japa should be performed .. . losses in

several ways ., . 28. Havana of Surya should be performed .. . anxieties

all-round ., . 29. Ghi, clothes and gold should be given in charity .. .

gains of wealth and grains etc. ., . 30.

 

29. There will be all-round increase in wealth, happiness in respect

of children and enjoyments in the Samvatsar, month and Nakshatr of the Rasi,

which has more than 30 Rekhas. . increase in wealth, property, children and

good reputation, if the Rasi has more than 40 Rekhas.

 

30-31. The Rasi, which is auspicious in AshtakaVarg Samudaya, is

considered auspicious for all auspicious functions. Consequently the

auspiciousness of AshtakaVarg should be got checked before performing any

function, like marriage etc. If a Rasi is not auspicious in AshtakaVarg,

then its auspiciousness should be checked from transit effects. It is not

necessary to check transit effects, if a Rasi is auspicious in AshtakaVarg.

Thus the auspiciousness of the Rasi in the AshtakaVarg should be considered,

as paramount.

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Dear Monica,

 

I think it's great that you are into Ashtak Vargas. I hope you will

derive a great deal of benefit by using them and understanding them

deeply. In my understanding Ashtak Vargas are meant primarily to judge

the effects of TRANSITS of the houses. I don't want to go back and

forth with you on it, as Ashtaka Varga is clearly a valid system, it's

just not a part of my foundational reasoning process for interpreting

a natal chart. If it is for you, and if you have a high success rate

on the accuracy of your predictions, that's great. I'm happy.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Monica wrote:

 

> Dear Vic

> Here is the copy paste from BPHS with some important points at top

> regarding

> Ashtak Varga.

>

>

> Some points on why using AshtakaVarg is important.

> 1.

> O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds of effects, relating

> to the

> Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views of many sages and

> Acharyas,

> but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a particular effect

> is

> quite correct, after considering the contradictions in the effects

> by the

> movements of the various Grahas.

> -----Special Stress on " but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if a

> particular effect is quite correct " .

>

> 2.

> Will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the Shastra,

> in which

> there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of happiness

> and

> sorrows and for determination of the longevity.

> -----Parashar states that using this method takes out a lot of

> subjectivity

> and gives clear cut indications.

>

> 3.

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn

> and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

> by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

> lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of

> the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

> it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

> to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

> malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference

> to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

>

>

>

> Regards

> -m-

>

>

> Ch. 66. AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. Maitreya said: " O Venerable Sage! You have described many

> kinds

> of effects, relating to the Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating

> the views

> of many sages and Acharyas, but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if

> a particular effect is quite correct, after considering the

> contradictions

> in the effects by the movements of the various Grahas. As because of

> sinful

> deeds, committed by people in Kaliyuga, their minds have become

> blunt, be

> kind enough to describe a method, which would enable even the

> shallow minded

> persons to ascertain their happiness and sorrows and determine their

> longevity on the basis of the positions of the Grahas in transit. "

>

> 5-6. The sage replied: " O Brahmin! You have put a very

> intelligent

> question. I will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the

> Shastra, in which there will be no contradictions in judging the

> effects of

> happiness and sorrows and for determination of the longevity. You

> now listen

> to me carefully.

>

> 7-11. If the 12 Bhavas, including Lagn, are occupied by, or

> aspected

> by benefic Grahas, they yield auspicious results, according to their

> characteristics, but this happens, where the Grahas concerned are in

> their

> exaltation Rasi, own Rasi, or posited in a benefic Bhava. There will

> be no

> good effects, if such Grahas are in depression, or posited in an

> inauspicious Bhava. Similarly the Bhavas, associated with, or

> aspected by

> malefics in depression, or posited in malefic Bhavas, yield adverse

> results,

> according to their characteristics. If such Grahas be in their

> exaltation

> Rasi, the effects will not be adverse. This is how the general

> effects have

> been described by the Daivajnas. I have only repeated those effects.

> The

> main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to determine the longevity

> and

> joys and sorrows of the people, but because the movements of the

> Grahas are

> so subtle, even sages, like Vashista and Brihaspati, have not been

> able to

> be quite definite in this respect. Then how can a common man,

> particularly

> in Kaliyuga, do so.

>

> 12. There are two divisions, or parts of the Jyotish Shastra,

> namely

> general and particular. I have already dealt with the general part.

> I now

> come to the other part, which deals with this subject in particular.

>

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn

> and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

> by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

> lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of

> the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

> it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

> to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

> malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference

> to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

>

> 16. Five Grahas in 1st, 2nd, 8th, 3rd and the 12th Bhavas from

> Surya

> are Karanprad (dot significators). Similarly four Grahas in the 7th

> and 4th,

> three Grahas in the 6th and 9th, six Grahas in the 5th, 2 Grahas in

> the 10th

> and one Grah in the 11th are dot significators.

>

> 17-19. Thus Lagn, Candr, Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 1st, 2nd

> and 8th

> from Surya; Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru in the 12th; Budh,

> Candr,

> Sukr, Guru in the 4th; Lagn, Candr, Sukr in the 9th; Surya, Sani and

> Mangal

> in the 6th; Lagn, Budh, Guru and Candr in the 7th; Sukr in the 11th;

> Surya,

> Sani, Sukr, Guru and Mangal in the 3rd; Guru and Sukr in the 10th;

> Surya,

> Sani, Candr, Lagn Mangal and Sukr in the 5th are Karanprad, or dot

> indicators.

>

> 20-22. In Candr's AshtakaVarg 6 Grahas in the 9th and the 2nd, 5

> Grahas in the 4th, 8th and the 1st, one Grah in the 10th and the

> 3rd, 4

> Grahas in the 5th, 3 Grahas in the 6th and the 7th and 1st, eight in

> the

> 12th are Karanprad. Thus Lagn, Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr, these

> five in

> the 1st; Lagn, Budh, Surya, Candr, Sani and Sukr, these 6 in the

> 2nd; Guru

> in the 3rd; Surya, Sani, Candr, Lagn and Mangal, these 5 in the 4th;

> Sukr,

> Budh, Guru, these 3 in the 6th; Mangal, Lagn and Sani, these 3 in

> the 7th;

> Mangal, Lagn, Sani, Sukr and Candr, these five in the 8th; Lagn,

> Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru, these 6 in the 9th; Sani only in the

> 10th; none

> in the 11th; all the eight in the 12th from their own places are

> Karanprad.

> These Grahas in the other Bhavas are Rekhaprad (line significators).

>

> 23-27. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal 6 Grahas in the 12th, 4th

> and 7th,

> 5 Grahas in the 5th, 6 Grahas in the 2nd, 7 Grahas in the 9th, 5

> Grahas in

> the 1st and 8th, 4 Grahas in the 3rd, 3 Grahas in the 10th and 2

> Grahas in

> the 6th are Karanprad. In the 11th no Grah is Karanprad. In other

> words all

> the Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhaprad. Thus

> Surya,

> Candr, Budh, Guru and Sukr, these five in the 1st; Lagn, Surya,

> Candr, Budh,

> Guru and Sani, these 6 in the 2nd; Sukr, Mangal, Guru and Sani,

> these 4 in

> the 3rd; Surya, Candr, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 4th; Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Mangal and Sani,

> these 2 in

> the 6th; Budh, Candr, Surya, Sukr, Guru and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 7th; Budh,

> Candr, Surya, Lagn and Guru, these five in the 8th; Surya, Candr,

> Mangal,

> Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th; Sukr, Candr and Budh,

> these 3

> in the 10th; none in the 11th; Surya, Sani, Budh, Candr, Lagn and

> Mangal,

> these 6 in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 28-30. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh 3 Grahas in the 1st, 2nd,

> 4th, 10th,

> 6th and 9th, 2 Grahas in the 8th, 6 Grahas in the 3rd and the 7th,

> none in

> the 11th, 5 Grahas in the 5th and 12th are Karanprad. Thus Surya,

> Candr and

> Guru, these 3 in the 1st; Guru, Surya and Budh, these 3 in the 2nd;

> Lagn,

> Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru, these 6 in the 3rd; Budh, Surya

> and

> Guru, these 3 in the 4th; Guru, Mangal, Candr, Sani and Lagn, these

> 5 in the

> 5th; Sukr, Sani and Mangal, these 3 in the 6th; Budh, Candr, Lagn,

> Surya,

> Sukr and Guru, these 6 in the 7th; Budh and Surya, these 2 in the

> 8th; Guru,

> Candr and Lagn, these 3 in the 9th; Surya, Guru and Sukr, these 3 in

> the

> 10th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Sukr these 5

> in the

> 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 31-34. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru one Grah in the 2nd and 11th, 2

> Grahas in the 10th, 7 Grahas in the 12th, 4 Grahas in the 6th, 5

> Grahas in

> the 8th and 3rd, 3 Grahas in the remaining Bhavas are Karanprad.

> Thus Sukr,

> Candr and Sani, these 3 in the 1st; Sani in the 2nd and 11th; Lagn,

> Mangal,

> Candr, Budh and Sukr, these 5 in the 3rd; Surya, Guru and Mangal,

> these 3 in

> the 5th; Sukr, Sani and Candr, these 3 in the 4th; Budh, Sukr and

> Sani,

> these 3 in the 7th; Guru, Mangal, Surya and Candr, these 4 in the

> 6th; all

> except Sani, these 7 in the 12th; Candr and Sani, these 2 in the

> 10th; Sani,

> Mangal and Guru, these 3 in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Sukr, Candr and

> Budh, these

> 5 in the 8th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 35-38. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr 2 Grahas in the 5th, 8th and

> 3rd, 5

> Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 12th, 10th, 8 Grahas in the 7th, 6 Grahas in

> the

> 6th, one in the 9th, 3 in the 4th, none in the 11th are Karanpradas.

> Thus

> Surya, Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sani, these 5 in the 1st and the 2nd;

> all the

> 8 Grahas in the 7th; Guru and Surya, these 2 in the 3rd; Surya and

> Mangal,

> these 2 in the 5th; Surya in 9th; Surya, Budh and Guru, these 3 in

> the 4th;

> Mangal and Budh, these 2 in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Sani, Lagn

> and

> Guru, these 6 in the 6th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Sani, Budh, Sukr

> and Guru,

> these 5 in the 12th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Candr, Surya, these 5 in

> the 10th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 39-42. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani 7 Grahas in the 2nd, 7th,

> 9th, 6

> Grahas in the 8th, Lagn and 4th, 4 Grahas in the 10th, 3rd and 12th,

> one

> Grah in the 6th, 5 Grahas in the 5th, none in the 11th are

> Karanpradas. Thus

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 6 in the 4th and the

> 1st;

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the 2nd

> and the

> 7th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the

> 9th;

> Candr, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 4 in the 10th; Guru, Surya, Budh

> and Sukr,

> these 4 in the 3rd; Surya in the 6th; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Surya,

> these 4 in

> the 12th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Budh and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th;

> Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 6 in the 8th; none in the

> 11th from

> their own places are Karanpradas. The remaining places are

> Rekhapradas and

> are auspicious.

>

> 43-45. The sage said. Now I will describe the auspicious Bhavas

> for

> the benefit of the Acharyas. In the AshtakaVarg of Surya: Sani,

> Mangal and

> Surya in the 2nd, 8th and 1st; Guru and Budh in the 5th; Budh, Candr

> and

> Lagn in the 3rd; Lagn, Surya, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn,

> Surya, Sani,

> Mangal, Budh and Candr in the 10th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh,

> Guru, Sani

> and Lagn in the 11th; Lagn, Sukr and Budh in the 12th; Lagn, Sukr,

> Budh,

> Guru and Candr in the 6th; Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr in the 7th;

> Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru in the 9th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 46-48. In the AshtakaVarg of Candr: Budh, Candr and Guru in the

> 1st;

> Guru and Mangal in the 2nd; Budh, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani, Sukr

> and Lagn

> in the 3rd; Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 4th; Mangal, Budh, Sukr and

> Sani in

> the 5th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Lagn in the 6th; Surya,

> Candr, Guru,

> Budh and Sukr in the 7th; Surya, Budh and Guru in the 8th; Sukr and

> Candr in

> the 9th; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Candr, Lagn and Mangal in the 10th

> and all

> the 8 Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhapradas. No

> Grah is

> Rekhaprad in the 12th.

>

> 49-50. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal: Lagn, Sani and Mangal in

> the 1st;

> Mangal in the 2nd; Lagn, Budh, Candr and Surya in the 3rd; Sani and

> Mangal

> in the 4th; Budh and Surya in the 5th; Budh, Candr, Guru, Surya,

> Lagn and

> Sukr in the 6th; Sani and Mangal in the 7th; Sani, Mangal and Sukr

> in the

> 8th; Sani in the 9th; Mangal, Surya, Guru, Sani and Lagn in 10th;

> all in the

> 11th and Guru and Sukr in the 12th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 51-52. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh: Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Sukr and

> Budh

> in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr, Sukr and Sani in the 2nd; Sukr and

> Budh in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Sukr and Mangal in the 4th; Budh, Sani

> and Sukr

> in the 5th; Guru, Budh, Surya, Candr and Lagn in the 6th; Mangal and

> Sani in

> the 7th; Mangal, Sani, Lagn, Candr, Sukr and Guru in the 8th; Sani,

> Mangal,

> Surya, Budh and Sukr in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Budh and Candr

> in the

> 10th; all in the 11th and Guru, Budh and Surya in the 12th from

> their own

> places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 53-55. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru: Lagn, Mangal, Surya and Budh

> in the

> 1st and 4th; Guru, Lagn, Mangal, Surya, Budh, Candr and Sukr in the

> 2nd;

> Sani, Guru and Surya in the 3rd; Sukr, Candr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in

> the

> 5th; Sukr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the 6th; Lagn, Mangal, Guru, Surya

> and

> Candr in the 7th; Guru, Surya and Mangal in the 8th; Sukr, Surya,

> Lagn,

> Candr and Budh in the 9th; Guru, Budh, Mangal, Surya, Sukr and Lagn

> in the

> 10th; all except Sani in the 11th and Sani in the 12th from their

> own places

> are Rekhapradas.

>

> 56-58. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr: Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the

> 1st;

> Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 2nd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Budh, Sani and

> Mangal in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn, Budh,

> Candr,

> Guru, Sani and Sukr in the 5th; Budh and Mangal in the 6th; none in

> the 7th;

> Sukr, Surya, Candr, Guru, Lagn and Sani in the 8th; all except Surya

> in the

> 9th; Sukr, Guru and Sani in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Candr

> and

> Surya in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 59-60. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani: Surya and Lagn in the 1st;

> Surya in

> the 2nd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal and Sani in the 3rd; Lagn and Surya in

> the 4th;

> Guru, Sani and Mangal in the 5th; all except Surya in the 6th; Surya

> in the

> 7th; Surya and Budh in the 8th; Budh in the 9th; Surya, Mangal, Lagn

> and

> Budh in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sukr in

> the 12th

> from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 61-64. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn 3 Grahas in the 1st and 4th, 2

> Grahas in the 3rd, 5 Grahas in the 2nd, 6 Grahas in the 5th, 8th,

> 9th and

> 12th, one Grah in the 10th, 11th and 6th and all except Guru in the

> 7th are

> Karanpradas. Thus Lagn, Surya and Candr in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal,

> Candr,

> Surya and Sani in the 2nd; Guru and Budh in the 3rd; Lagn, Candr,

> Mangal,

> Budh, Sani and Surya in the 5th; Lagn, Candr and Mangal in the 4th;

> Sukr in

> the 6th; all except Guru in the 7th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal,

> Guru and

> Sani in the 8th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh and Sani in the

> 9th; Sukr

> in the 10th and 11th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the

> 12th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 65-68. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn: Sani, Budh, Sukr, Guru and

> Mangal

> in the 1st; Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 2nd; Lagn, Surya, Candr,

> Mangal, Sukr

> and Sani in 3rd; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 4th; Guru

> and Sukr

> in the 5th; all except Sukr in the 6th; Guru in the 7th; Budh and

> Sukr in

> the 8th; Guru and Sukr in the 9th; all except Sukr in the 10th; all

> except

> Sukr in the 11th and Surya and Candr in the 12th from their own

> places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 69. In the charts of AshtakaVarg Karan is signified by a Bindu,

> or dot

> (0) and Sthan by a Rekhapradas, or line (1). Karan is inauspicious,

> while

> Sthan is auspicious.

>

> 70-72. To identify the auspicious and inauspicious Bhavas in the

> AshtakaVarg a chart should be prepared with 14 horizontal lines and

> ten

> vertical lines. The form of the chart so prepared will consist of 117

> apartments. In this chart in the first line incorporates the names

> of the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. In the first column write the numbers of all

> the 12

> Bhavas. After this mark dots under the Grah and against the Karanprad

> Bhavas. By doing so the Karanprad Bhavas of all the 8 Grahas,

> including

> Lagn, will become known clearly and whenever the AshtakaVarg Grah

> will pass

> in transit the dot-marked Bhavas, he will yield unfavourable

> results. In his

> transit to other Bhavas he would give favourable effects.The

> following table

> shows the dots in the AshtakaVarg of Surya.

>

>

>

Ch. 70. Effects of the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-6. The matters to be considered from Surya and other Grahas

> are, as

> follows. Surya - the soul (Atma), nature, physical strength, joys and

> sorrows and father. Candr - mind, wisdom, joy and mother. Mangal -

> co-borns,

> strength, qualities and land. Budh - business dealings, livelihood and

> friends. Guru - nourishment of the body, learning, son (children),

> wealth

> and property. Sukr - marriage, enjoyments, conveyance, prostitution

> and

> sexual intercourse with women. Sani - longevity, source of

> maintenance,

> grief, danger, losses and death. The following procedure should be

> adopted

> to ascertain the effects of a house. Multiply the number of Rekhas

> with the

> Yog Pinda (Rasi Pinda plus Grah Pinda), connected with the

> AshtakaVarg of

> that Grah and divide the product by 27. The remainder will denote

> the number

> of the Nakshatr. During the transit of Sani in that Nakshatr the Bhava

> concerned will be harmed.

>

> 7-9. The 9th house from Surya at the time of birth deals with

> father.

> The Rekhas of that Rasi, as marked in Surya's AshtakaVarg, should be

> multiplied by the Yog Pinda and the product be divided by 27. The

> remainder

> will denote the number of Nakshatr. The father will be in distress,

> or he

> will otherwise suffer, when Sani in transit passes through the

> Nakshatr.

> Even, when Sani passes in transit the Trikon Nakshatras, father, or

> relatives, like father, may die, or suffer.

>

> Notes. By dividing the 27 Nakshatras in three equal parts, the

> 1st,

> 10th and 19th fall in Trikon from each other. Surya is PitraKarak

> (significator of father). Therefore all about father is ascertained

> from the

> Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 10-11. If the AshtakaVarg Rekha number is multiplied by the Yog

> Pinda

> and the product is divided by 12, the remainder will denote the Rasi,

> through which, or through the Rasis in Trikon to it, the transit of

> Sani

> will cause harm, or unfavourable effects to father. Death of the

> father may

> occur, if the Dasa prevailing at that time be unfavourable. If the

> Dasa be

> favourable, father will face only adverse effects.

>

> (12-15 Arishta to Father) 12-14. The death of the father may be

> expected, if Rahu, Sani, or Mangal are in the 4th from Surya at the

> time of

> transit of Sani through any of the above three Rasis (Trikon Rasis).

> The

> death of the father will come to pass by such transit, if at that

> time Sani,

> associated, or aspected by a malefic, be in the 9th from Lagn, or

> Candr

> and/or the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th from Lagn be in operation.

> The death

> does not take place, if a favourable Dasa be in force at the time of

> Sani's

> transit. This should be kept in mind by the Jyotishis, while making

> predictions.

>

> 15. If the Rasi of Lagn of the native be the 8th Rasi from Lagn

> of the

> father, or, if the Lord of the 8th from father's Lagn be in Lagn of

> the

> native, he takes over all the responsibilities of his father after the

> latter's death.

>

> 16-18. The father enjoys happiness in the Dasa of the Lord of

> the 4th

> from Lagn. The native is obedient to his father, if the Lord of the

> 4th be

> in Lagn, or the 11th, or in the 11th, or 10th from Candr. If the

> birth be in

> the 3rd Rasi from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native makes

> proper use

> of the wealth, inherited from his father. If the birth be in the

> 10th Rasi

> from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native will inherit all the

> good

> qualities of his father. If the Lord of the 10th be in Lagn, the

> native will

> be more distinguished than his father.

>

> 19-20. No auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

> performed in the month of Rasis (that is, when Surya transits that

> Rasi),

> which has more number of dots in Surya's AshtakaVarg. The same

> applies to

> the Samvatsar of that Rasi (that is, when the mean Guru transits

> that Rasi).

> Auspicious functions should be performed, when Surya, or the mean Guru

> transits the Rasi, which has more Rekhas in Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 21-23. In the same manner no auspicious functions should be

> performed

> during the transit of Candr in the Rasi, which has larger number of

> dots in

> Candr's AshtakaVarg. Consideration, regarding mother, house and

> village,

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Candr. Therefore multiply the

> number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Candr by the Yog Pinda of that

> AshtakaVarg

> and divide the product by 27. The death of, or distress to mother

> may be

> expected, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted

> by the

> remainder. Then divide the product by 12. The death of the mother

> may occur,

> when Sani transits the Rasi, denoted by the remainder. Distress to

> mother

> may be predicted, when Sani transits the Nakshatras, or Rasis in

> Trikon to

> Nakshatr and Rasi, indicated above.

>

> 24-27. Consideration of brothers (co-borns), valour and

> patience is

> done from Mangal's AshtakaVarg. If the number of Rekha is larger in

> any Rasi

> after Trikon Shodhana, there will be gains of land, happiness from

> wife and

> great happiness to brother, when Mangal passes through that Rasi in

> transit.

> If Mangal be weak, the brothers will be short lived. There will be

> distress

> to brothers, when Mangal transits a Rasi without Rekhas. Here also

> the Yog

> Pinda of Mangal should be multiplied by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and the product be divided separately by 27 and 12. The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. The brother will suffer,

> whenever Sani transits that Nakshatr, or Rasi (or the Trikon

> Nakshatras, or

> Rasis).

>

> 28-29. Consideration in regard to family, maternal uncle and

> friends

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Budh. The family etc. will

> enjoy

> happiness during the transit of Budh's AshtakaVarg. After performing

> Trikon

> and Ekadhipatya Shodhana in Budh's AshtakaVarg, the happiness, or

> distress

> of the family should be predicted from the transit of Sani through the

> resultant Nakshatr and Rasi (and those in Trikon to them).

>

> 30-33. All about knowledge, religious inclinations of the

> native and

> son (progeny) is to be ascertained from the 5th Bhava from Guru. If

> the

> Rekhas in the 5th Bhava from Guru are larger in number in the

> AshtakaVarg,

> there will be great happiness in respect of progeny. If the dots are

> larger

> in number, the happiness in respect of progeny will be meagre. The

> number of

> children are equal to the number of Rekhas in the 5th Bhava (from

> Guru),

> provided it is not the Rasi of debilitation of Guru, or his enemy's

> Rasi. In

> that case the number of children will be very limited. The number of

> children is also equal to the number of Navams, in which the Lord of

> the 5th

> from Guru is posited. Multiply the Yog Pinda of Guru by the number

> of Rekhas

> in the AshtakaVarg and divide the product separately by 27 and 12. The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. Transit of Sani

> through that

> Nakshatr and its Trikon Nakshatras and of that Rasi and its Trikon

> Rasis

> will be inauspitious. During that period the knowledge, learning and

> religious activities of the native will also be adversely affected.

>

> 34-36. There will be gain of wealth, land and happiness and

> marriage,

> whenever Sukr passes in transit through the Rasis, which have larger

> number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Sukr. These gains will be from the

> directions of the 7th Rasi from Sukr and of its Trikon Rasis. The

> effects

> should be judged in the manner, already explained earlier, after

> multiplying

> the Rekhas in the 7th Bhava from Sukr by the Yog Pinda.

>

> 37-40. The 8th Bhava from Sani signifies death, as well as

> longevity.

> Assessment about longevity should be made from that Bhava through the

> AshtakaVarg. Therefore predict distress to the native in the year,

> equal to

> the number of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg from Lagn up to Sani. The

> year,

> equal to the number of Rekhas from Sani up to Lagn, will also be of

> distress. If in the year, equal to the total of the above Rekhas,

> Arishta

> Dasa be also in operation, there can be possibility of death of the

> native.

>

> 41-42. Multiply the Yog Pinda by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and divide the product by 27. The death of the native

> will take

> place, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted by

> the

> remainder, or its Trikon Nakshatras. Again, divide the product by

> 12. The

> native will face danger of death, when Sani passes in transit

> through the

> Rasi, denoted by the remainder, or through its Trikon Rasis.

>

> 43-44. The results will be favourable, when Sani passes in

> transit

> through Rasis, which have larger number of Rekhas in Sani's

> AshtakaVarg.

> Sani's transit through Rasis, which have larger number of dots, will

> produce

> only evil effects.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 71. Determination of Longevity through the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. The sage said. I will now describe the method of determining

> longevity from the AshtakaVarg. For this purpose the AshtakaVargas

> of Lagn

> and all the Grahas have to be studied. The Rekhas in all the Rasis

> have been

> allotted specific spans of life. The Rasi, which has no Rekhas, has

> been

> allotted 2 days, that with one Rekha gets l½ days, one day for Rasi

> with 2

> Rekhas, half day for Rasi with 3 Rekhas, 7½ days for Rasi with 4

> Rekhas, 2

> years for Rasi with 5 Rekhas, 4 years for Rasi with 6 Rekhas, 6

> years for

> Rasi with 7 Rekhas and 8 years for Rasi with 8 Rekhas. In this

> manner the

> spans of life should be worked from Rekhas in all the AshtakaVargas.

> Half of

> the sum total of all will be the longevity, based on AshtakaVarg.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 72. Aggregational AshtakaVargas

>

> 1-2. The sage said. O Brahmin! Write down a Rasi Kundali with 12

> Bhavas, including Lagn. Then insert the total of the Rekhas in all the

> AshtakaVargas of the Grahas in the Rasi concerned. The AshtakaVarg

> with such

> Rekhas is called the Samuday AshtakaVarg, or the aggregational

> AshtakaVarg.

> From this should be judged good and adverse effects of the Rasi

> Kundali.

>

> 3-5. In the aggregational AshtakaVarg the Rasi, which has more

> than 30

> Rekhas, gives favourable effects, that, having between 25 and 30

> Rekhas,

> produces medium effects and that Rasi, who has less than 25 Rekhas,

> yields

> adverse effects. Auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

> performed, when the Grah, on whose basis the time and date of

> functions are

> performed, moves into the Rasi with favourable effects. The Rasi,

> which is

> productive of adverse effects should be avoided for these purposes.

> For

> example, the strength of Candr (CandraBal) is generally acceptable

> for all

> auspicious functions. Therefore auspicious functions should be

> performed, or

> started, when Candr is in the Rasi with maximum number of Rekhas.

> The Grah

> in the Rasi with favourable number of Rekhas produces auspicious

> effects and

> the Grah in the Rasi with unfavourable number of Rekhas yields evil

> results.

>

> 6-6½. Amongst the 12 Bhavas more than 30 Rekhas advance the

> effects of

> a Bhava, between 25 and 30 Rekhas produce medium effects and the

> effects of

> the Bhava, which contains less than 25 Rekhas, get damaged.

>

> Notes. From the above rules it can be interpreted, that, if

> there are

> less than 25 Rekhas in 6th, 8th and 12th Bhava, their effects become

> favourable. The effects will become adverse, if these Bhavas contain

> more

> than 25 Rekhas.

>

> 7-8. If in a Rasi Kundali there are larger number of Rekhas in

> the

> 11th than those in 10th and there are smaller number of Rekhas in

> the 12th

> than those in the 11th and Lagn contains largest number of Rekhas, the

> native will be wealthy and will enjoy all kinds of comforts and

> luxury.

>

> 9-10. Divide the 12 Bhavas in 3 sections. There will be

> sufferings and

> distress in that part of the life, which is represented by the

> section of

> the Rasi Kundali with more malefics. There will be happiness etc.,

> in the

> part of the life, represented by the section of the Rasi Kundali,

> containing

> more benefics. There will be mixed results in that area of life,

> when the

> relative section of the Rasi Kundali has equal number of benefics and

> malefics. The Bhavas from Lagn up to the 4th signify childhood,

> those from

> 5th to 8th youth and those from the 9th to 12th represent old age.

>

> 11-28. There will be danger of death in the month of the Rasi

> (period

> of Surya's transit in that Rasi), which has 7, or less than 7 Rekhas

> in the

> Samudaya AshtakaVarg. To ward off this evil effect 20 Tolas of gold

> and 2

> heaps of sesame seeds, resembling the shape of a mountain, should be

> given

> in charity. . possibility of death ., . 8. Tuladan of camphor is

> recommended

> to obtain relief from this evil effect. . danger of snakes ., . 9. A

> chariot

> with 7 horses should be given in charity .. . danger from weapons .,

> which

> contains 10 .. An armour together with Vajra should be given in

> charity to

> ward off .. . danger of disgrace for no cause ., . 11. An idol of

> the moon,

> made of 10 Tolas of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of

> death

> from drowning ., . 12. Land full of crops should be given in

> charity .. .

> danger of death from wild and violent animals ., in which there are

> 13 .. A

> Shaligram Shila should be given in charity .. . danger of death ., .

> 14. A

> Varah Murti, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of

> the

> wrath of the king ., . 15. An elephant should be given in charity .. .

> danger of Arishta (calamity, disaster, or misfortune) ., . 16. A Kalpa

> Vriksha, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger from

> diseases ., that has 17 .. A cow and jaggery should be given in

> charity .. .

> danger of conflict ., . 18. A cow, jewels, land and gold should be

> given in

> charity .. . possibility of banishment from the homeland ., which

> has 19 ..

> Family deity should be worshipped .. . loss of intelligence ., . 20.

> Goddess

> Saraswati should be worshipped .. . distress from diseases ., that

> has 21 ..

> A heap of grains, shaped, like a mountain, should be given in

> charity .. .

> distress to kinsmen ., . 22. Gold should be given in charity .. The

> native

> will be in distress ., . 23. An idol of the sun, made of 7 Tolas of

> gold,

> should be given in charity .. . death of the kinsmen ., . 24. 10

> cows should

> be given in charity .. . loss of wisdom ., . 25. Goddess Saraswati

> should be

> worshipped .. . loss of wealth ., . 26. Gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> loss of wealth ., . 27. Sri Sukta Japa should be performed .. .

> losses in

> several ways ., . 28. Havana of Surya should be performed .. .

> anxieties

> all-round ., . 29. Ghi, clothes and gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> gains of wealth and grains etc. ., . 30.

>

> 29. There will be all-round increase in wealth, happiness in

> respect

> of children and enjoyments in the Samvatsar, month and Nakshatr of

> the Rasi,

> which has more than 30 Rekhas. . increase in wealth, property,

> children and

> good reputation, if the Rasi has more than 40 Rekhas.

>

> 30-31. The Rasi, which is auspicious in AshtakaVarg Samudaya, is

> considered auspicious for all auspicious functions. Consequently the

> auspiciousness of AshtakaVarg should be got checked before

> performing any

> function, like marriage etc. If a Rasi is not auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg,

> then its auspiciousness should be checked from transit effects. It

> is not

> necessary to check transit effects, if a Rasi is auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg.

> Thus the auspiciousness of the Rasi in the AshtakaVarg should be

> considered,

> as paramount.

>

>

> ---

>

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Dear Monica,

 

I believe most of the members here are well versant

with the usage and importance of Ashtakvargas. Quoting

from BPHS is not just the criteria for its importance.

Most of us have used it and found it to be very much

effective, affirming the mention in BPHS.

 

It would fall short in timing a event to a narrow

period, and again here I would attribute this timing

part malady, to lack of our understanding , and not the

original Text where its mentioned.

 

I have taken the liberty of addressing you as " Dear " ,

since i see you doing it with everyone, and which is the

appropriate form of address too, nothwitshtanding the

ouster of a member due to this.

 

Ashtakvarga does need a re-addressal from those not

in this technique.

 

Balwant.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Monica " <monicaastro80

wrote:

>

> Dear Vic

> Here is the copy paste from BPHS with some important points at top

regarding

> Ashtak Varga.

>

>

> Some points on why using AshtakaVarg is important.

> 1.

> O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds of effects,

relating to the

> Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views of many sages and

Acharyas,

> but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a particular

effect is

> quite correct, after considering the contradictions in the effects

by the

> movements of the various Grahas.

> -----Special Stress on " but it is not possible to say with

certainty, if a

> particular effect is quite correct " .

>

> 2.

> Will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the Shastra,

in which

> there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of happiness

and

> sorrows and for determination of the longevity.

> -----Parashar states that using this method takes out a lot of

subjectivity

> and gives clear cut indications.

>

> 3.

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from

Lagn and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment

of the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with

reference to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a

Grah).

>

>

>

> Regards

> -m-

>

>

> Ch. 66. AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. Maitreya said: " O Venerable Sage! You have described

many kinds

> of effects, relating to the Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating

the views

> of many sages and Acharyas, but it is not possible to say with

certainty, if

> a particular effect is quite correct, after considering the

contradictions

> in the effects by the movements of the various Grahas. As because

of sinful

> deeds, committed by people in Kaliyuga, their minds have become

blunt, be

> kind enough to describe a method, which would enable even the

shallow minded

> persons to ascertain their happiness and sorrows and determine

their

> longevity on the basis of the positions of the Grahas in transit. "

>

> 5-6. The sage replied: " O Brahmin! You have put a very

intelligent

> question. I will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all,

the

> Shastra, in which there will be no contradictions in judging the

effects of

> happiness and sorrows and for determination of the longevity. You

now listen

> to me carefully.

>

> 7-11. If the 12 Bhavas, including Lagn, are occupied by, or

aspected

> by benefic Grahas, they yield auspicious results, according to

their

> characteristics, but this happens, where the Grahas concerned are

in their

> exaltation Rasi, own Rasi, or posited in a benefic Bhava. There

will be no

> good effects, if such Grahas are in depression, or posited in an

> inauspicious Bhava. Similarly the Bhavas, associated with, or

aspected by

> malefics in depression, or posited in malefic Bhavas, yield adverse

results,

> according to their characteristics. If such Grahas be in their

exaltation

> Rasi, the effects will not be adverse. This is how the general

effects have

> been described by the Daivajnas. I have only repeated those

effects. The

> main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to determine the

longevity and

> joys and sorrows of the people, but because the movements of the

Grahas are

> so subtle, even sages, like Vashista and Brihaspati, have not been

able to

> be quite definite in this respect. Then how can a common man,

particularly

> in Kaliyuga, do so.

>

> 12. There are two divisions, or parts of the Jyotish Shastra,

namely

> general and particular. I have already dealt with the general part.

I now

> come to the other part, which deals with this subject in particular.

>

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from

Lagn and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment

of the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with

reference to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a

Grah).

>

> 16. Five Grahas in 1st, 2nd, 8th, 3rd and the 12th Bhavas

from Surya

> are Karanprad (dot significators). Similarly four Grahas in the 7th

and 4th,

> three Grahas in the 6th and 9th, six Grahas in the 5th, 2 Grahas in

the 10th

> and one Grah in the 11th are dot significators.

>

> 17-19. Thus Lagn, Candr, Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 1st, 2nd

and 8th

> from Surya; Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru in the 12th; Budh,

Candr,

> Sukr, Guru in the 4th; Lagn, Candr, Sukr in the 9th; Surya, Sani

and Mangal

> in the 6th; Lagn, Budh, Guru and Candr in the 7th; Sukr in the

11th; Surya,

> Sani, Sukr, Guru and Mangal in the 3rd; Guru and Sukr in the 10th;

Surya,

> Sani, Candr, Lagn Mangal and Sukr in the 5th are Karanprad, or dot

> indicators.

>

> 20-22. In Candr's AshtakaVarg 6 Grahas in the 9th and the

2nd, 5

> Grahas in the 4th, 8th and the 1st, one Grah in the 10th and the

3rd, 4

> Grahas in the 5th, 3 Grahas in the 6th and the 7th and 1st, eight

in the

> 12th are Karanprad. Thus Lagn, Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr, these

five in

> the 1st; Lagn, Budh, Surya, Candr, Sani and Sukr, these 6 in the

2nd; Guru

> in the 3rd; Surya, Sani, Candr, Lagn and Mangal, these 5 in the

4th; Sukr,

> Budh, Guru, these 3 in the 6th; Mangal, Lagn and Sani, these 3 in

the 7th;

> Mangal, Lagn, Sani, Sukr and Candr, these five in the 8th; Lagn,

Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru, these 6 in the 9th; Sani only in the

10th; none

> in the 11th; all the eight in the 12th from their own places are

Karanprad.

> These Grahas in the other Bhavas are Rekhaprad (line significators).

>

> 23-27. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal 6 Grahas in the 12th, 4th

and 7th,

> 5 Grahas in the 5th, 6 Grahas in the 2nd, 7 Grahas in the 9th, 5

Grahas in

> the 1st and 8th, 4 Grahas in the 3rd, 3 Grahas in the 10th and 2

Grahas in

> the 6th are Karanprad. In the 11th no Grah is Karanprad. In other

words all

> the Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhaprad. Thus

Surya,

> Candr, Budh, Guru and Sukr, these five in the 1st; Lagn, Surya,

Candr, Budh,

> Guru and Sani, these 6 in the 2nd; Sukr, Mangal, Guru and Sani,

these 4 in

> the 3rd; Surya, Candr, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 6 in the

4th; Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Mangal and Sani,

these 2 in

> the 6th; Budh, Candr, Surya, Sukr, Guru and Lagn, these 6 in the

7th; Budh,

> Candr, Surya, Lagn and Guru, these five in the 8th; Surya, Candr,

Mangal,

> Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th; Sukr, Candr and

Budh, these 3

> in the 10th; none in the 11th; Surya, Sani, Budh, Candr, Lagn and

Mangal,

> these 6 in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 28-30. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh 3 Grahas in the 1st, 2nd,

4th, 10th,

> 6th and 9th, 2 Grahas in the 8th, 6 Grahas in the 3rd and the 7th,

none in

> the 11th, 5 Grahas in the 5th and 12th are Karanprad. Thus Surya,

Candr and

> Guru, these 3 in the 1st; Guru, Surya and Budh, these 3 in the 2nd;

Lagn,

> Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru, these 6 in the 3rd; Budh,

Surya and

> Guru, these 3 in the 4th; Guru, Mangal, Candr, Sani and Lagn, these

5 in the

> 5th; Sukr, Sani and Mangal, these 3 in the 6th; Budh, Candr, Lagn,

Surya,

> Sukr and Guru, these 6 in the 7th; Budh and Surya, these 2 in the

8th; Guru,

> Candr and Lagn, these 3 in the 9th; Surya, Guru and Sukr, these 3

in the

> 10th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Sukr these 5

in the

> 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 31-34. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru one Grah in the 2nd and

11th, 2

> Grahas in the 10th, 7 Grahas in the 12th, 4 Grahas in the 6th, 5

Grahas in

> the 8th and 3rd, 3 Grahas in the remaining Bhavas are Karanprad.

Thus Sukr,

> Candr and Sani, these 3 in the 1st; Sani in the 2nd and 11th; Lagn,

Mangal,

> Candr, Budh and Sukr, these 5 in the 3rd; Surya, Guru and Mangal,

these 3 in

> the 5th; Sukr, Sani and Candr, these 3 in the 4th; Budh, Sukr and

Sani,

> these 3 in the 7th; Guru, Mangal, Surya and Candr, these 4 in the

6th; all

> except Sani, these 7 in the 12th; Candr and Sani, these 2 in the

10th; Sani,

> Mangal and Guru, these 3 in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Sukr, Candr and

Budh, these

> 5 in the 8th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 35-38. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr 2 Grahas in the 5th, 8th

and 3rd, 5

> Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 12th, 10th, 8 Grahas in the 7th, 6 Grahas

in the

> 6th, one in the 9th, 3 in the 4th, none in the 11th are

Karanpradas. Thus

> Surya, Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sani, these 5 in the 1st and the 2nd;

all the

> 8 Grahas in the 7th; Guru and Surya, these 2 in the 3rd; Surya and

Mangal,

> these 2 in the 5th; Surya in 9th; Surya, Budh and Guru, these 3 in

the 4th;

> Mangal and Budh, these 2 in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Sani, Lagn

and

> Guru, these 6 in the 6th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Sani, Budh, Sukr

and Guru,

> these 5 in the 12th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Candr, Surya, these 5 in

the 10th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 39-42. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani 7 Grahas in the 2nd, 7th,

9th, 6

> Grahas in the 8th, Lagn and 4th, 4 Grahas in the 10th, 3rd and

12th, one

> Grah in the 6th, 5 Grahas in the 5th, none in the 11th are

Karanpradas. Thus

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 6 in the 4th and

the 1st;

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the 2nd

and the

> 7th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in

the 9th;

> Candr, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 4 in the 10th; Guru, Surya, Budh

and Sukr,

> these 4 in the 3rd; Surya in the 6th; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Surya,

these 4 in

> the 12th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Budh and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th;

Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 6 in the 8th; none in the

11th from

> their own places are Karanpradas. The remaining places are

Rekhapradas and

> are auspicious.

>

> 43-45. The sage said. Now I will describe the auspicious

Bhavas for

> the benefit of the Acharyas. In the AshtakaVarg of Surya: Sani,

Mangal and

> Surya in the 2nd, 8th and 1st; Guru and Budh in the 5th; Budh,

Candr and

> Lagn in the 3rd; Lagn, Surya, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn,

Surya, Sani,

> Mangal, Budh and Candr in the 10th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh,

Guru, Sani

> and Lagn in the 11th; Lagn, Sukr and Budh in the 12th; Lagn, Sukr,

Budh,

> Guru and Candr in the 6th; Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr in the 7th;

Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru in the 9th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 46-48. In the AshtakaVarg of Candr: Budh, Candr and Guru in

the 1st;

> Guru and Mangal in the 2nd; Budh, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani, Sukr

and Lagn

> in the 3rd; Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 4th; Mangal, Budh, Sukr and

Sani in

> the 5th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Lagn in the 6th; Surya,

Candr, Guru,

> Budh and Sukr in the 7th; Surya, Budh and Guru in the 8th; Sukr and

Candr in

> the 9th; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Candr, Lagn and Mangal in the

10th and all

> the 8 Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhapradas. No

Grah is

> Rekhaprad in the 12th.

>

> 49-50. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal: Lagn, Sani and Mangal in

the 1st;

> Mangal in the 2nd; Lagn, Budh, Candr and Surya in the 3rd; Sani and

Mangal

> in the 4th; Budh and Surya in the 5th; Budh, Candr, Guru, Surya,

Lagn and

> Sukr in the 6th; Sani and Mangal in the 7th; Sani, Mangal and Sukr

in the

> 8th; Sani in the 9th; Mangal, Surya, Guru, Sani and Lagn in 10th;

all in the

> 11th and Guru and Sukr in the 12th from their own places are

Rekhapradas.

>

> 51-52. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh: Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Sukr

and Budh

> in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr, Sukr and Sani in the 2nd; Sukr and

Budh in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Sukr and Mangal in the 4th; Budh, Sani

and Sukr

> in the 5th; Guru, Budh, Surya, Candr and Lagn in the 6th; Mangal

and Sani in

> the 7th; Mangal, Sani, Lagn, Candr, Sukr and Guru in the 8th; Sani,

Mangal,

> Surya, Budh and Sukr in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Budh and Candr

in the

> 10th; all in the 11th and Guru, Budh and Surya in the 12th from

their own

> places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 53-55. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru: Lagn, Mangal, Surya and

Budh in the

> 1st and 4th; Guru, Lagn, Mangal, Surya, Budh, Candr and Sukr in the

2nd;

> Sani, Guru and Surya in the 3rd; Sukr, Candr, Lagn, Budh and Sani

in the

> 5th; Sukr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the 6th; Lagn, Mangal, Guru,

Surya and

> Candr in the 7th; Guru, Surya and Mangal in the 8th; Sukr, Surya,

Lagn,

> Candr and Budh in the 9th; Guru, Budh, Mangal, Surya, Sukr and Lagn

in the

> 10th; all except Sani in the 11th and Sani in the 12th from their

own places

> are Rekhapradas.

>

> 56-58. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr: Lagn, Sukr and Candr in

the 1st;

> Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 2nd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Budh, Sani and

Mangal in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn, Budh,

Candr,

> Guru, Sani and Sukr in the 5th; Budh and Mangal in the 6th; none in

the 7th;

> Sukr, Surya, Candr, Guru, Lagn and Sani in the 8th; all except

Surya in the

> 9th; Sukr, Guru and Sani in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal,

Candr and

> Surya in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 59-60. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani: Surya and Lagn in the 1st;

Surya in

> the 2nd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal and Sani in the 3rd; Lagn and Surya in

the 4th;

> Guru, Sani and Mangal in the 5th; all except Surya in the 6th;

Surya in the

> 7th; Surya and Budh in the 8th; Budh in the 9th; Surya, Mangal,

Lagn and

> Budh in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sukr in

the 12th

> from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 61-64. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn 3 Grahas in the 1st and

4th, 2

> Grahas in the 3rd, 5 Grahas in the 2nd, 6 Grahas in the 5th, 8th,

9th and

> 12th, one Grah in the 10th, 11th and 6th and all except Guru in the

7th are

> Karanpradas. Thus Lagn, Surya and Candr in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal,

Candr,

> Surya and Sani in the 2nd; Guru and Budh in the 3rd; Lagn, Candr,

Mangal,

> Budh, Sani and Surya in the 5th; Lagn, Candr and Mangal in the 4th;

Sukr in

> the 6th; all except Guru in the 7th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal,

Guru and

> Sani in the 8th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh and Sani in the

9th; Sukr

> in the 10th and 11th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in

the 12th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 65-68. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn: Sani, Budh, Sukr, Guru and

Mangal

> in the 1st; Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 2nd; Lagn, Surya, Candr,

Mangal, Sukr

> and Sani in 3rd; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 4th; Guru

and Sukr

> in the 5th; all except Sukr in the 6th; Guru in the 7th; Budh and

Sukr in

> the 8th; Guru and Sukr in the 9th; all except Sukr in the 10th; all

except

> Sukr in the 11th and Surya and Candr in the 12th from their own

places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 69. In the charts of AshtakaVarg Karan is signified by a

Bindu, or dot

> (0) and Sthan by a Rekhapradas, or line (1). Karan is inauspicious,

while

> Sthan is auspicious.

>

> 70-72. To identify the auspicious and inauspicious Bhavas in

the

> AshtakaVarg a chart should be prepared with 14 horizontal lines and

ten

> vertical lines. The form of the chart so prepared will consist of

117

> apartments. In this chart in the first line incorporates the names

of the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. In the first column write the numbers of all

the 12

> Bhavas. After this mark dots under the Grah and against the

Karanprad

> Bhavas. By doing so the Karanprad Bhavas of all the 8 Grahas,

including

> Lagn, will become known clearly and whenever the AshtakaVarg Grah

will pass

> in transit the dot-marked Bhavas, he will yield unfavourable

results. In his

> transit to other Bhavas he would give favourable effects.The

following table

> shows the dots in the AshtakaVarg of Surya.

>

>

>

Ch. 70. Effects of the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-6. The matters to be considered from Surya and other Grahas

are, as

> follows. Surya - the soul (Atma), nature, physical strength, joys

and

> sorrows and father. Candr - mind, wisdom, joy and mother. Mangal -

co-borns,

> strength, qualities and land. Budh - business dealings, livelihood

and

> friends. Guru - nourishment of the body, learning, son (children),

wealth

> and property. Sukr - marriage, enjoyments, conveyance, prostitution

and

> sexual intercourse with women. Sani - longevity, source of

maintenance,

> grief, danger, losses and death. The following procedure should be

adopted

> to ascertain the effects of a house. Multiply the number of Rekhas

with the

> Yog Pinda (Rasi Pinda plus Grah Pinda), connected with the

AshtakaVarg of

> that Grah and divide the product by 27. The remainder will denote

the number

> of the Nakshatr. During the transit of Sani in that Nakshatr the

Bhava

> concerned will be harmed.

>

> 7-9. The 9th house from Surya at the time of birth deals with

father.

> The Rekhas of that Rasi, as marked in Surya's AshtakaVarg, should

be

> multiplied by the Yog Pinda and the product be divided by 27. The

remainder

> will denote the number of Nakshatr. The father will be in distress,

or he

> will otherwise suffer, when Sani in transit passes through the

Nakshatr.

> Even, when Sani passes in transit the Trikon Nakshatras, father, or

> relatives, like father, may die, or suffer.

>

> Notes. By dividing the 27 Nakshatras in three equal parts,

the 1st,

> 10th and 19th fall in Trikon from each other. Surya is PitraKarak

> (significator of father). Therefore all about father is ascertained

from the

> Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 10-11. If the AshtakaVarg Rekha number is multiplied by the

Yog Pinda

> and the product is divided by 12, the remainder will denote the

Rasi,

> through which, or through the Rasis in Trikon to it, the transit of

Sani

> will cause harm, or unfavourable effects to father. Death of the

father may

> occur, if the Dasa prevailing at that time be unfavourable. If the

Dasa be

> favourable, father will face only adverse effects.

>

> (12-15 Arishta to Father) 12-14. The death of the father may

be

> expected, if Rahu, Sani, or Mangal are in the 4th from Surya at the

time of

> transit of Sani through any of the above three Rasis (Trikon

Rasis). The

> death of the father will come to pass by such transit, if at that

time Sani,

> associated, or aspected by a malefic, be in the 9th from Lagn, or

Candr

> and/or the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th from Lagn be in operation.

The death

> does not take place, if a favourable Dasa be in force at the time

of Sani's

> transit. This should be kept in mind by the Jyotishis, while making

> predictions.

>

> 15. If the Rasi of Lagn of the native be the 8th Rasi from

Lagn of the

> father, or, if the Lord of the 8th from father's Lagn be in Lagn of

the

> native, he takes over all the responsibilities of his father after

the

> latter's death.

>

> 16-18. The father enjoys happiness in the Dasa of the Lord of

the 4th

> from Lagn. The native is obedient to his father, if the Lord of the

4th be

> in Lagn, or the 11th, or in the 11th, or 10th from Candr. If the

birth be in

> the 3rd Rasi from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native makes

proper use

> of the wealth, inherited from his father. If the birth be in the

10th Rasi

> from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native will inherit all the

good

> qualities of his father. If the Lord of the 10th be in Lagn, the

native will

> be more distinguished than his father.

>

> 19-20. No auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

> performed in the month of Rasis (that is, when Surya transits that

Rasi),

> which has more number of dots in Surya's AshtakaVarg. The same

applies to

> the Samvatsar of that Rasi (that is, when the mean Guru transits

that Rasi).

> Auspicious functions should be performed, when Surya, or the mean

Guru

> transits the Rasi, which has more Rekhas in Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 21-23. In the same manner no auspicious functions should be

performed

> during the transit of Candr in the Rasi, which has larger number of

dots in

> Candr's AshtakaVarg. Consideration, regarding mother, house and

village,

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Candr. Therefore multiply

the number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Candr by the Yog Pinda of that

AshtakaVarg

> and divide the product by 27. The death of, or distress to mother

may be

> expected, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted

by the

> remainder. Then divide the product by 12. The death of the mother

may occur,

> when Sani transits the Rasi, denoted by the remainder. Distress to

mother

> may be predicted, when Sani transits the Nakshatras, or Rasis in

Trikon to

> Nakshatr and Rasi, indicated above.

>

> 24-27. Consideration of brothers (co-borns), valour and

patience is

> done from Mangal's AshtakaVarg. If the number of Rekha is larger in

any Rasi

> after Trikon Shodhana, there will be gains of land, happiness from

wife and

> great happiness to brother, when Mangal passes through that Rasi in

transit.

> If Mangal be weak, the brothers will be short lived. There will be

distress

> to brothers, when Mangal transits a Rasi without Rekhas. Here also

the Yog

> Pinda of Mangal should be multiplied by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and the product be divided separately by 27 and 12. The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. The brother will

suffer,

> whenever Sani transits that Nakshatr, or Rasi (or the Trikon

Nakshatras, or

> Rasis).

>

> 28-29. Consideration in regard to family, maternal uncle and

friends

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Budh. The family etc. will

enjoy

> happiness during the transit of Budh's AshtakaVarg. After

performing Trikon

> and Ekadhipatya Shodhana in Budh's AshtakaVarg, the happiness, or

distress

> of the family should be predicted from the transit of Sani through

the

> resultant Nakshatr and Rasi (and those in Trikon to them).

>

> 30-33. All about knowledge, religious inclinations of the

native and

> son (progeny) is to be ascertained from the 5th Bhava from Guru. If

the

> Rekhas in the 5th Bhava from Guru are larger in number in the

AshtakaVarg,

> there will be great happiness in respect of progeny. If the dots

are larger

> in number, the happiness in respect of progeny will be meagre. The

number of

> children are equal to the number of Rekhas in the 5th Bhava (from

Guru),

> provided it is not the Rasi of debilitation of Guru, or his enemy's

Rasi. In

> that case the number of children will be very limited. The number

of

> children is also equal to the number of Navams, in which the Lord

of the 5th

> from Guru is posited. Multiply the Yog Pinda of Guru by the number

of Rekhas

> in the AshtakaVarg and divide the product separately by 27 and 12.

The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. Transit of Sani

through that

> Nakshatr and its Trikon Nakshatras and of that Rasi and its Trikon

Rasis

> will be inauspitious. During that period the knowledge, learning

and

> religious activities of the native will also be adversely affected.

>

> 34-36. There will be gain of wealth, land and happiness and

marriage,

> whenever Sukr passes in transit through the Rasis, which have

larger number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Sukr. These gains will be from the

> directions of the 7th Rasi from Sukr and of its Trikon Rasis. The

effects

> should be judged in the manner, already explained earlier, after

multiplying

> the Rekhas in the 7th Bhava from Sukr by the Yog Pinda.

>

> 37-40. The 8th Bhava from Sani signifies death, as well as

longevity.

> Assessment about longevity should be made from that Bhava through

the

> AshtakaVarg. Therefore predict distress to the native in the year,

equal to

> the number of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg from Lagn up to Sani. The

year,

> equal to the number of Rekhas from Sani up to Lagn, will also be of

> distress. If in the year, equal to the total of the above Rekhas,

Arishta

> Dasa be also in operation, there can be possibility of death of the

native.

>

> 41-42. Multiply the Yog Pinda by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and divide the product by 27. The death of the native

will take

> place, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted by

the

> remainder, or its Trikon Nakshatras. Again, divide the product by

12. The

> native will face danger of death, when Sani passes in transit

through the

> Rasi, denoted by the remainder, or through its Trikon Rasis.

>

> 43-44. The results will be favourable, when Sani passes in

transit

> through Rasis, which have larger number of Rekhas in Sani's

AshtakaVarg.

> Sani's transit through Rasis, which have larger number of dots,

will produce

> only evil effects.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 71. Determination of Longevity through the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. The sage said. I will now describe the method of

determining

> longevity from the AshtakaVarg. For this purpose the AshtakaVargas

of Lagn

> and all the Grahas have to be studied. The Rekhas in all the Rasis

have been

> allotted specific spans of life. The Rasi, which has no Rekhas, has

been

> allotted 2 days, that with one Rekha gets l½ days, one day for Rasi

with 2

> Rekhas, half day for Rasi with 3 Rekhas, 7½ days for Rasi with 4

Rekhas, 2

> years for Rasi with 5 Rekhas, 4 years for Rasi with 6 Rekhas, 6

years for

> Rasi with 7 Rekhas and 8 years for Rasi with 8 Rekhas. In this

manner the

> spans of life should be worked from Rekhas in all the

AshtakaVargas. Half of

> the sum total of all will be the longevity, based on AshtakaVarg.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 72. Aggregational AshtakaVargas

>

> 1-2. The sage said. O Brahmin! Write down a Rasi Kundali with

12

> Bhavas, including Lagn. Then insert the total of the Rekhas in all

the

> AshtakaVargas of the Grahas in the Rasi concerned. The AshtakaVarg

with such

> Rekhas is called the Samuday AshtakaVarg, or the aggregational

AshtakaVarg.

> From this should be judged good and adverse effects of the Rasi

Kundali.

>

> 3-5. In the aggregational AshtakaVarg the Rasi, which has

more than 30

> Rekhas, gives favourable effects, that, having between 25 and 30

Rekhas,

> produces medium effects and that Rasi, who has less than 25 Rekhas,

yields

> adverse effects. Auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should

be

> performed, when the Grah, on whose basis the time and date of

functions are

> performed, moves into the Rasi with favourable effects. The Rasi,

which is

> productive of adverse effects should be avoided for these purposes.

For

> example, the strength of Candr (CandraBal) is generally acceptable

for all

> auspicious functions. Therefore auspicious functions should be

performed, or

> started, when Candr is in the Rasi with maximum number of Rekhas.

The Grah

> in the Rasi with favourable number of Rekhas produces auspicious

effects and

> the Grah in the Rasi with unfavourable number of Rekhas yields evil

results.

>

> 6-6½. Amongst the 12 Bhavas more than 30 Rekhas advance the

effects of

> a Bhava, between 25 and 30 Rekhas produce medium effects and the

effects of

> the Bhava, which contains less than 25 Rekhas, get damaged.

>

> Notes. From the above rules it can be interpreted, that, if

there are

> less than 25 Rekhas in 6th, 8th and 12th Bhava, their effects

become

> favourable. The effects will become adverse, if these Bhavas

contain more

> than 25 Rekhas.

>

> 7-8. If in a Rasi Kundali there are larger number of Rekhas

in the

> 11th than those in 10th and there are smaller number of Rekhas in

the 12th

> than those in the 11th and Lagn contains largest number of Rekhas,

the

> native will be wealthy and will enjoy all kinds of comforts and

luxury.

>

> 9-10. Divide the 12 Bhavas in 3 sections. There will be

sufferings and

> distress in that part of the life, which is represented by the

section of

> the Rasi Kundali with more malefics. There will be happiness etc.,

in the

> part of the life, represented by the section of the Rasi Kundali,

containing

> more benefics. There will be mixed results in that area of life,

when the

> relative section of the Rasi Kundali has equal number of benefics

and

> malefics. The Bhavas from Lagn up to the 4th signify childhood,

those from

> 5th to 8th youth and those from the 9th to 12th represent old age.

>

> 11-28. There will be danger of death in the month of the Rasi

(period

> of Surya's transit in that Rasi), which has 7, or less than 7

Rekhas in the

> Samudaya AshtakaVarg. To ward off this evil effect 20 Tolas of gold

and 2

> heaps of sesame seeds, resembling the shape of a mountain, should

be given

> in charity. . possibility of death ., . 8. Tuladan of camphor is

recommended

> to obtain relief from this evil effect. . danger of snakes ., . 9.

A chariot

> with 7 horses should be given in charity .. . danger from

weapons ., which

> contains 10 .. An armour together with Vajra should be given in

charity to

> ward off .. . danger of disgrace for no cause ., . 11. An idol of

the moon,

> made of 10 Tolas of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of

death

> from drowning ., . 12. Land full of crops should be given in

charity .. .

> danger of death from wild and violent animals ., in which there are

13 .. A

> Shaligram Shila should be given in charity .. . danger of

death ., . 14. A

> Varah Murti, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger

of the

> wrath of the king ., . 15. An elephant should be given in

charity .. .

> danger of Arishta (calamity, disaster, or misfortune) ., . 16. A

Kalpa

> Vriksha, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger from

> diseases ., that has 17 .. A cow and jaggery should be given in

charity .. .

> danger of conflict ., . 18. A cow, jewels, land and gold should be

given in

> charity .. . possibility of banishment from the homeland ., which

has 19 ..

> Family deity should be worshipped .. . loss of intelligence ., .

20. Goddess

> Saraswati should be worshipped .. . distress from diseases ., that

has 21 ..

> A heap of grains, shaped, like a mountain, should be given in

charity .. .

> distress to kinsmen ., . 22. Gold should be given in charity .. The

native

> will be in distress ., . 23. An idol of the sun, made of 7 Tolas of

gold,

> should be given in charity .. . death of the kinsmen ., . 24. 10

cows should

> be given in charity .. . loss of wisdom ., . 25. Goddess Saraswati

should be

> worshipped .. . loss of wealth ., . 26. Gold should be given in

charity .. .

> loss of wealth ., . 27. Sri Sukta Japa should be performed .. .

losses in

> several ways ., . 28. Havana of Surya should be performed .. .

anxieties

> all-round ., . 29. Ghi, clothes and gold should be given in

charity .. .

> gains of wealth and grains etc. ., . 30.

>

> 29. There will be all-round increase in wealth, happiness in

respect

> of children and enjoyments in the Samvatsar, month and Nakshatr of

the Rasi,

> which has more than 30 Rekhas. . increase in wealth, property,

children and

> good reputation, if the Rasi has more than 40 Rekhas.

>

> 30-31. The Rasi, which is auspicious in AshtakaVarg Samudaya,

is

> considered auspicious for all auspicious functions. Consequently

the

> auspiciousness of AshtakaVarg should be got checked before

performing any

> function, like marriage etc. If a Rasi is not auspicious in

AshtakaVarg,

> then its auspiciousness should be checked from transit effects. It

is not

> necessary to check transit effects, if a Rasi is auspicious in

AshtakaVarg.

> Thus the auspiciousness of the Rasi in the AshtakaVarg should be

considered,

> as paramount.

>

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Dear Monica,

 

Your take on the Astakvarga seems to be coming from a person who is

highly experienced in her own words in

predicting through Ashtakvarga, but your own statement as under, just

a week back on Jul 5 ( Msg No. 9730 ),

contradicts this latest utterance by You. How can one become a

experienced and Master in a weeks time, is driving me nuts absolutely.

 

// I would also like to put some ideas in into this discussion (even

though i am not experienced).//

 

Balwant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " balwantsingh64 "

<balwantsingh64 wrote:

>

> Dear Monica,

>

> I believe most of the members here are well versant

> with the usage and importance of Ashtakvargas. Quoting

> from BPHS is not just the criteria for its importance.

> Most of us have used it and found it to be very much

> effective, affirming the mention in BPHS.

>

> It would fall short in timing a event to a narrow

> period, and again here I would attribute this timing

> part malady, to lack of our understanding , and not the

> original Text where its mentioned.

>

> I have taken the liberty of addressing you as " Dear " ,

> since i see you doing it with everyone, and which is the

> appropriate form of address too, nothwitshtanding the

> ouster of a member due to this.

>

> Ashtakvarga does need a re-addressal from those not

> in this technique.

>

> Balwant.

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Monica " <monicaastro80@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vic

> > Here is the copy paste from BPHS with some important points at

top

> regarding

> > Ashtak Varga.

> >

> >

> > Some points on why using AshtakaVarg is important.

> > 1.

> > O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds of effects,

> relating to the

> > Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views of many sages

and

> Acharyas,

> > but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a particular

> effect is

> > quite correct, after considering the contradictions in the

effects

> by the

> > movements of the various Grahas.

> > -----Special Stress on " but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if a

> > particular effect is quite correct " .

> >

> > 2.

> > Will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the

Shastra,

> in which

> > there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of

happiness

> and

> > sorrows and for determination of the longevity.

> > -----Parashar states that using this method takes out a lot of

> subjectivity

> > and gives clear cut indications.

> >

> > 3.

> > 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from

> Lagn and

> > Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> > same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> > as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be

marked

> by dots

> > (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small

vertical

> lines

> > (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment

> of the

> > horoscope and predictions be made. "

> >

> > Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> > AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other

words

> it is the

> > combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with

reference

> to the

> > seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic

and

> malefic

> > marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with

> reference to the

> > position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a

> Grah).

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > -m-

> >

> >

> > Ch. 66. AshtakaVarg

> >

> > 1-4. Maitreya said: " O Venerable Sage! You have described

> many kinds

> > of effects, relating to the Grahas and Bhavas, after

incorporating

> the views

> > of many sages and Acharyas, but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if

> > a particular effect is quite correct, after considering the

> contradictions

> > in the effects by the movements of the various Grahas. As because

> of sinful

> > deeds, committed by people in Kaliyuga, their minds have become

> blunt, be

> > kind enough to describe a method, which would enable even the

> shallow minded

> > persons to ascertain their happiness and sorrows and determine

> their

> > longevity on the basis of the positions of the Grahas in transit. "

> >

> > 5-6. The sage replied: " O Brahmin! You have put a very

> intelligent

> > question. I will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all,

> the

> > Shastra, in which there will be no contradictions in judging the

> effects of

> > happiness and sorrows and for determination of the longevity. You

> now listen

> > to me carefully.

> >

> > 7-11. If the 12 Bhavas, including Lagn, are occupied by, or

> aspected

> > by benefic Grahas, they yield auspicious results, according to

> their

> > characteristics, but this happens, where the Grahas concerned are

> in their

> > exaltation Rasi, own Rasi, or posited in a benefic Bhava. There

> will be no

> > good effects, if such Grahas are in depression, or posited in an

> > inauspicious Bhava. Similarly the Bhavas, associated with, or

> aspected by

> > malefics in depression, or posited in malefic Bhavas, yield

adverse

> results,

> > according to their characteristics. If such Grahas be in their

> exaltation

> > Rasi, the effects will not be adverse. This is how the general

> effects have

> > been described by the Daivajnas. I have only repeated those

> effects. The

> > main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to determine the

> longevity and

> > joys and sorrows of the people, but because the movements of the

> Grahas are

> > so subtle, even sages, like Vashista and Brihaspati, have not

been

> able to

> > be quite definite in this respect. Then how can a common man,

> particularly

> > in Kaliyuga, do so.

> >

> > 12. There are two divisions, or parts of the Jyotish

Shastra,

> namely

> > general and particular. I have already dealt with the general

part.

> I now

> > come to the other part, which deals with this subject in

particular.

> >

> > 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from

> Lagn and

> > Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> > same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> > as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be

marked

> by dots

> > (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small

vertical

> lines

> > (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment

> of the

> > horoscope and predictions be made. "

> >

> > Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> > AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other

words

> it is the

> > combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with

reference

> to the

> > seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic

and

> malefic

> > marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with

> reference to the

> > position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a

> Grah).

> >

> > 16. Five Grahas in 1st, 2nd, 8th, 3rd and the 12th Bhavas

> from Surya

> > are Karanprad (dot significators). Similarly four Grahas in the

7th

> and 4th,

> > three Grahas in the 6th and 9th, six Grahas in the 5th, 2 Grahas

in

> the 10th

> > and one Grah in the 11th are dot significators.

> >

> > 17-19. Thus Lagn, Candr, Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 1st,

2nd

> and 8th

> > from Surya; Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru in the 12th;

Budh,

> Candr,

> > Sukr, Guru in the 4th; Lagn, Candr, Sukr in the 9th; Surya, Sani

> and Mangal

> > in the 6th; Lagn, Budh, Guru and Candr in the 7th; Sukr in the

> 11th; Surya,

> > Sani, Sukr, Guru and Mangal in the 3rd; Guru and Sukr in the

10th;

> Surya,

> > Sani, Candr, Lagn Mangal and Sukr in the 5th are Karanprad, or

dot

> > indicators.

> >

> > 20-22. In Candr's AshtakaVarg 6 Grahas in the 9th and the

> 2nd, 5

> > Grahas in the 4th, 8th and the 1st, one Grah in the 10th and the

> 3rd, 4

> > Grahas in the 5th, 3 Grahas in the 6th and the 7th and 1st, eight

> in the

> > 12th are Karanprad. Thus Lagn, Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr,

these

> five in

> > the 1st; Lagn, Budh, Surya, Candr, Sani and Sukr, these 6 in the

> 2nd; Guru

> > in the 3rd; Surya, Sani, Candr, Lagn and Mangal, these 5 in the

> 4th; Sukr,

> > Budh, Guru, these 3 in the 6th; Mangal, Lagn and Sani, these 3 in

> the 7th;

> > Mangal, Lagn, Sani, Sukr and Candr, these five in the 8th; Lagn,

> Surya,

> > Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru, these 6 in the 9th; Sani only in the

> 10th; none

> > in the 11th; all the eight in the 12th from their own places are

> Karanprad.

> > These Grahas in the other Bhavas are Rekhaprad (line

significators).

> >

> > 23-27. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal 6 Grahas in the 12th,

4th

> and 7th,

> > 5 Grahas in the 5th, 6 Grahas in the 2nd, 7 Grahas in the 9th, 5

> Grahas in

> > the 1st and 8th, 4 Grahas in the 3rd, 3 Grahas in the 10th and 2

> Grahas in

> > the 6th are Karanprad. In the 11th no Grah is Karanprad. In other

> words all

> > the Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhaprad. Thus

> Surya,

> > Candr, Budh, Guru and Sukr, these five in the 1st; Lagn, Surya,

> Candr, Budh,

> > Guru and Sani, these 6 in the 2nd; Sukr, Mangal, Guru and Sani,

> these 4 in

> > the 3rd; Surya, Candr, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 4th; Candr,

> > Mangal, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Mangal and Sani,

> these 2 in

> > the 6th; Budh, Candr, Surya, Sukr, Guru and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 7th; Budh,

> > Candr, Surya, Lagn and Guru, these five in the 8th; Surya, Candr,

> Mangal,

> > Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th; Sukr, Candr and

> Budh, these 3

> > in the 10th; none in the 11th; Surya, Sani, Budh, Candr, Lagn and

> Mangal,

> > these 6 in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

> >

> > 28-30. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh 3 Grahas in the 1st, 2nd,

> 4th, 10th,

> > 6th and 9th, 2 Grahas in the 8th, 6 Grahas in the 3rd and the

7th,

> none in

> > the 11th, 5 Grahas in the 5th and 12th are Karanprad. Thus Surya,

> Candr and

> > Guru, these 3 in the 1st; Guru, Surya and Budh, these 3 in the

2nd;

> Lagn,

> > Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru, these 6 in the 3rd; Budh,

> Surya and

> > Guru, these 3 in the 4th; Guru, Mangal, Candr, Sani and Lagn,

these

> 5 in the

> > 5th; Sukr, Sani and Mangal, these 3 in the 6th; Budh, Candr,

Lagn,

> Surya,

> > Sukr and Guru, these 6 in the 7th; Budh and Surya, these 2 in the

> 8th; Guru,

> > Candr and Lagn, these 3 in the 9th; Surya, Guru and Sukr, these 3

> in the

> > 10th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Sukr these

5

> in the

> > 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

> >

> > 31-34. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru one Grah in the 2nd and

> 11th, 2

> > Grahas in the 10th, 7 Grahas in the 12th, 4 Grahas in the 6th, 5

> Grahas in

> > the 8th and 3rd, 3 Grahas in the remaining Bhavas are Karanprad.

> Thus Sukr,

> > Candr and Sani, these 3 in the 1st; Sani in the 2nd and 11th;

Lagn,

> Mangal,

> > Candr, Budh and Sukr, these 5 in the 3rd; Surya, Guru and Mangal,

> these 3 in

> > the 5th; Sukr, Sani and Candr, these 3 in the 4th; Budh, Sukr and

> Sani,

> > these 3 in the 7th; Guru, Mangal, Surya and Candr, these 4 in the

> 6th; all

> > except Sani, these 7 in the 12th; Candr and Sani, these 2 in the

> 10th; Sani,

> > Mangal and Guru, these 3 in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Sukr, Candr and

> Budh, these

> > 5 in the 8th from their own places are Karanprad.

> >

> > 35-38. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr 2 Grahas in the 5th, 8th

> and 3rd, 5

> > Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 12th, 10th, 8 Grahas in the 7th, 6 Grahas

> in the

> > 6th, one in the 9th, 3 in the 4th, none in the 11th are

> Karanpradas. Thus

> > Surya, Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sani, these 5 in the 1st and the

2nd;

> all the

> > 8 Grahas in the 7th; Guru and Surya, these 2 in the 3rd; Surya

and

> Mangal,

> > these 2 in the 5th; Surya in 9th; Surya, Budh and Guru, these 3

in

> the 4th;

> > Mangal and Budh, these 2 in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Sani,

Lagn

> and

> > Guru, these 6 in the 6th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Sani, Budh,

Sukr

> and Guru,

> > these 5 in the 12th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Candr, Surya, these 5 in

> the 10th

> > from their own places are Karanpradas.

> >

> > 39-42. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani 7 Grahas in the 2nd, 7th,

> 9th, 6

> > Grahas in the 8th, Lagn and 4th, 4 Grahas in the 10th, 3rd and

> 12th, one

> > Grah in the 6th, 5 Grahas in the 5th, none in the 11th are

> Karanpradas. Thus

> > Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 6 in the 4th and

> the 1st;

> > Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the

2nd

> and the

> > 7th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in

> the 9th;

> > Candr, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 4 in the 10th; Guru, Surya,

Budh

> and Sukr,

> > these 4 in the 3rd; Surya in the 6th; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Surya,

> these 4 in

> > the 12th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Budh and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th;

> Candr,

> > Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 6 in the 8th; none in

the

> 11th from

> > their own places are Karanpradas. The remaining places are

> Rekhapradas and

> > are auspicious.

> >

> > 43-45. The sage said. Now I will describe the auspicious

> Bhavas for

> > the benefit of the Acharyas. In the AshtakaVarg of Surya: Sani,

> Mangal and

> > Surya in the 2nd, 8th and 1st; Guru and Budh in the 5th; Budh,

> Candr and

> > Lagn in the 3rd; Lagn, Surya, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn,

> Surya, Sani,

> > Mangal, Budh and Candr in the 10th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh,

> Guru, Sani

> > and Lagn in the 11th; Lagn, Sukr and Budh in the 12th; Lagn,

Sukr,

> Budh,

> > Guru and Candr in the 6th; Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr in the

7th;

> Surya,

> > Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru in the 9th from their own places are

> > Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 46-48. In the AshtakaVarg of Candr: Budh, Candr and Guru in

> the 1st;

> > Guru and Mangal in the 2nd; Budh, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani,

Sukr

> and Lagn

> > in the 3rd; Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 4th; Mangal, Budh, Sukr

and

> Sani in

> > the 5th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Lagn in the 6th; Surya,

> Candr, Guru,

> > Budh and Sukr in the 7th; Surya, Budh and Guru in the 8th; Sukr

and

> Candr in

> > the 9th; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Candr, Lagn and Mangal in the

> 10th and all

> > the 8 Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

No

> Grah is

> > Rekhaprad in the 12th.

> >

> > 49-50. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal: Lagn, Sani and Mangal

in

> the 1st;

> > Mangal in the 2nd; Lagn, Budh, Candr and Surya in the 3rd; Sani

and

> Mangal

> > in the 4th; Budh and Surya in the 5th; Budh, Candr, Guru, Surya,

> Lagn and

> > Sukr in the 6th; Sani and Mangal in the 7th; Sani, Mangal and

Sukr

> in the

> > 8th; Sani in the 9th; Mangal, Surya, Guru, Sani and Lagn in 10th;

> all in the

> > 11th and Guru and Sukr in the 12th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 51-52. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh: Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Sukr

> and Budh

> > in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr, Sukr and Sani in the 2nd; Sukr

and

> Budh in

> > the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Sukr and Mangal in the 4th; Budh,

Sani

> and Sukr

> > in the 5th; Guru, Budh, Surya, Candr and Lagn in the 6th; Mangal

> and Sani in

> > the 7th; Mangal, Sani, Lagn, Candr, Sukr and Guru in the 8th;

Sani,

> Mangal,

> > Surya, Budh and Sukr in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Budh and

Candr

> in the

> > 10th; all in the 11th and Guru, Budh and Surya in the 12th from

> their own

> > places are Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 53-55. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru: Lagn, Mangal, Surya and

> Budh in the

> > 1st and 4th; Guru, Lagn, Mangal, Surya, Budh, Candr and Sukr in

the

> 2nd;

> > Sani, Guru and Surya in the 3rd; Sukr, Candr, Lagn, Budh and Sani

> in the

> > 5th; Sukr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the 6th; Lagn, Mangal, Guru,

> Surya and

> > Candr in the 7th; Guru, Surya and Mangal in the 8th; Sukr, Surya,

> Lagn,

> > Candr and Budh in the 9th; Guru, Budh, Mangal, Surya, Sukr and

Lagn

> in the

> > 10th; all except Sani in the 11th and Sani in the 12th from their

> own places

> > are Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 56-58. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr: Lagn, Sukr and Candr in

> the 1st;

> > Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 2nd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Budh, Sani

and

> Mangal in

> > the 3rd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn,

Budh,

> Candr,

> > Guru, Sani and Sukr in the 5th; Budh and Mangal in the 6th; none

in

> the 7th;

> > Sukr, Surya, Candr, Guru, Lagn and Sani in the 8th; all except

> Surya in the

> > 9th; Sukr, Guru and Sani in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal,

> Candr and

> > Surya in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 59-60. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani: Surya and Lagn in the

1st;

> Surya in

> > the 2nd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal and Sani in the 3rd; Lagn and Surya

in

> the 4th;

> > Guru, Sani and Mangal in the 5th; all except Surya in the 6th;

> Surya in the

> > 7th; Surya and Budh in the 8th; Budh in the 9th; Surya, Mangal,

> Lagn and

> > Budh in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sukr in

> the 12th

> > from their own places are Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 61-64. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn 3 Grahas in the 1st and

> 4th, 2

> > Grahas in the 3rd, 5 Grahas in the 2nd, 6 Grahas in the 5th, 8th,

> 9th and

> > 12th, one Grah in the 10th, 11th and 6th and all except Guru in

the

> 7th are

> > Karanpradas. Thus Lagn, Surya and Candr in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal,

> Candr,

> > Surya and Sani in the 2nd; Guru and Budh in the 3rd; Lagn, Candr,

> Mangal,

> > Budh, Sani and Surya in the 5th; Lagn, Candr and Mangal in the

4th;

> Sukr in

> > the 6th; all except Guru in the 7th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal,

> Guru and

> > Sani in the 8th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh and Sani in the

> 9th; Sukr

> > in the 10th and 11th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in

> the 12th

> > from their own places are Karanpradas.

> >

> > 65-68. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn: Sani, Budh, Sukr, Guru

and

> Mangal

> > in the 1st; Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 2nd; Lagn, Surya, Candr,

> Mangal, Sukr

> > and Sani in 3rd; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 4th;

Guru

> and Sukr

> > in the 5th; all except Sukr in the 6th; Guru in the 7th; Budh and

> Sukr in

> > the 8th; Guru and Sukr in the 9th; all except Sukr in the 10th;

all

> except

> > Sukr in the 11th and Surya and Candr in the 12th from their own

> places are

> > Rekhapradas.

> >

> > 69. In the charts of AshtakaVarg Karan is signified by a

> Bindu, or dot

> > (0) and Sthan by a Rekhapradas, or line (1). Karan is

inauspicious,

> while

> > Sthan is auspicious.

> >

> > 70-72. To identify the auspicious and inauspicious Bhavas

in

> the

> > AshtakaVarg a chart should be prepared with 14 horizontal lines

and

> ten

> > vertical lines. The form of the chart so prepared will consist of

> 117

> > apartments. In this chart in the first line incorporates the

names

> of the

> > seven Grahas and Lagn. In the first column write the numbers of

all

> the 12

> > Bhavas. After this mark dots under the Grah and against the

> Karanprad

> > Bhavas. By doing so the Karanprad Bhavas of all the 8 Grahas,

> including

> > Lagn, will become known clearly and whenever the AshtakaVarg Grah

> will pass

> > in transit the dot-marked Bhavas, he will yield unfavourable

> results. In his

> > transit to other Bhavas he would give favourable effects.The

> following table

> > shows the dots in the AshtakaVarg of Surya.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ch. 70. Effects of the AshtakaVarg

> >

> > 1-6. The matters to be considered from Surya and other

Grahas

> are, as

> > follows. Surya - the soul (Atma), nature, physical strength, joys

> and

> > sorrows and father. Candr - mind, wisdom, joy and mother. Mangal -

 

> co-borns,

> > strength, qualities and land. Budh - business dealings,

livelihood

> and

> > friends. Guru - nourishment of the body, learning, son

(children),

> wealth

> > and property. Sukr - marriage, enjoyments, conveyance,

prostitution

> and

> > sexual intercourse with women. Sani - longevity, source of

> maintenance,

> > grief, danger, losses and death. The following procedure should

be

> adopted

> > to ascertain the effects of a house. Multiply the number of

Rekhas

> with the

> > Yog Pinda (Rasi Pinda plus Grah Pinda), connected with the

> AshtakaVarg of

> > that Grah and divide the product by 27. The remainder will denote

> the number

> > of the Nakshatr. During the transit of Sani in that Nakshatr the

> Bhava

> > concerned will be harmed.

> >

> > 7-9. The 9th house from Surya at the time of birth deals

with

> father.

> > The Rekhas of that Rasi, as marked in Surya's AshtakaVarg, should

> be

> > multiplied by the Yog Pinda and the product be divided by 27. The

> remainder

> > will denote the number of Nakshatr. The father will be in

distress,

> or he

> > will otherwise suffer, when Sani in transit passes through the

> Nakshatr.

> > Even, when Sani passes in transit the Trikon Nakshatras, father,

or

> > relatives, like father, may die, or suffer.

> >

> > Notes. By dividing the 27 Nakshatras in three equal parts,

> the 1st,

> > 10th and 19th fall in Trikon from each other. Surya is PitraKarak

> > (significator of father). Therefore all about father is

ascertained

> from the

> > Surya's AshtakaVarg.

> >

> > 10-11. If the AshtakaVarg Rekha number is multiplied by the

> Yog Pinda

> > and the product is divided by 12, the remainder will denote the

> Rasi,

> > through which, or through the Rasis in Trikon to it, the transit

of

> Sani

> > will cause harm, or unfavourable effects to father. Death of the

> father may

> > occur, if the Dasa prevailing at that time be unfavourable. If

the

> Dasa be

> > favourable, father will face only adverse effects.

> >

> > (12-15 Arishta to Father) 12-14. The death of the father

may

> be

> > expected, if Rahu, Sani, or Mangal are in the 4th from Surya at

the

> time of

> > transit of Sani through any of the above three Rasis (Trikon

> Rasis). The

> > death of the father will come to pass by such transit, if at that

> time Sani,

> > associated, or aspected by a malefic, be in the 9th from Lagn, or

> Candr

> > and/or the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th from Lagn be in operation.

> The death

> > does not take place, if a favourable Dasa be in force at the time

> of Sani's

> > transit. This should be kept in mind by the Jyotishis, while

making

> > predictions.

> >

> > 15. If the Rasi of Lagn of the native be the 8th Rasi from

> Lagn of the

> > father, or, if the Lord of the 8th from father's Lagn be in Lagn

of

> the

> > native, he takes over all the responsibilities of his father

after

> the

> > latter's death.

> >

> > 16-18. The father enjoys happiness in the Dasa of the Lord

of

> the 4th

> > from Lagn. The native is obedient to his father, if the Lord of

the

> 4th be

> > in Lagn, or the 11th, or in the 11th, or 10th from Candr. If the

> birth be in

> > the 3rd Rasi from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native makes

> proper use

> > of the wealth, inherited from his father. If the birth be in the

> 10th Rasi

> > from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native will inherit all

the

> good

> > qualities of his father. If the Lord of the 10th be in Lagn, the

> native will

> > be more distinguished than his father.

> >

> > 19-20. No auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should

be

> > performed in the month of Rasis (that is, when Surya transits

that

> Rasi),

> > which has more number of dots in Surya's AshtakaVarg. The same

> applies to

> > the Samvatsar of that Rasi (that is, when the mean Guru transits

> that Rasi).

> > Auspicious functions should be performed, when Surya, or the mean

> Guru

> > transits the Rasi, which has more Rekhas in Surya's AshtakaVarg.

> >

> > 21-23. In the same manner no auspicious functions should be

> performed

> > during the transit of Candr in the Rasi, which has larger number

of

> dots in

> > Candr's AshtakaVarg. Consideration, regarding mother, house and

> village,

> > should be done from the 4th Bhava from Candr. Therefore multiply

> the number

> > of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Candr by the Yog Pinda of that

> AshtakaVarg

> > and divide the product by 27. The death of, or distress to mother

> may be

> > expected, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr,

denoted

> by the

> > remainder. Then divide the product by 12. The death of the mother

> may occur,

> > when Sani transits the Rasi, denoted by the remainder. Distress

to

> mother

> > may be predicted, when Sani transits the Nakshatras, or Rasis in

> Trikon to

> > Nakshatr and Rasi, indicated above.

> >

> > 24-27. Consideration of brothers (co-borns), valour and

> patience is

> > done from Mangal's AshtakaVarg. If the number of Rekha is larger

in

> any Rasi

> > after Trikon Shodhana, there will be gains of land, happiness

from

> wife and

> > great happiness to brother, when Mangal passes through that Rasi

in

> transit.

> > If Mangal be weak, the brothers will be short lived. There will

be

> distress

> > to brothers, when Mangal transits a Rasi without Rekhas. Here

also

> the Yog

> > Pinda of Mangal should be multiplied by the number of Rekhas in

the

> > AshtakaVarg and the product be divided separately by 27 and 12.

The

> > remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. The brother will

> suffer,

> > whenever Sani transits that Nakshatr, or Rasi (or the Trikon

> Nakshatras, or

> > Rasis).

> >

> > 28-29. Consideration in regard to family, maternal uncle

and

> friends

> > should be done from the 4th Bhava from Budh. The family etc. will

> enjoy

> > happiness during the transit of Budh's AshtakaVarg. After

> performing Trikon

> > and Ekadhipatya Shodhana in Budh's AshtakaVarg, the happiness, or

> distress

> > of the family should be predicted from the transit of Sani

through

> the

> > resultant Nakshatr and Rasi (and those in Trikon to them).

> >

> > 30-33. All about knowledge, religious inclinations of the

> native and

> > son (progeny) is to be ascertained from the 5th Bhava from Guru.

If

> the

> > Rekhas in the 5th Bhava from Guru are larger in number in the

> AshtakaVarg,

> > there will be great happiness in respect of progeny. If the dots

> are larger

> > in number, the happiness in respect of progeny will be meagre.

The

> number of

> > children are equal to the number of Rekhas in the 5th Bhava (from

> Guru),

> > provided it is not the Rasi of debilitation of Guru, or his

enemy's

> Rasi. In

> > that case the number of children will be very limited. The number

> of

> > children is also equal to the number of Navams, in which the Lord

> of the 5th

> > from Guru is posited. Multiply the Yog Pinda of Guru by the

number

> of Rekhas

> > in the AshtakaVarg and divide the product separately by 27 and

12.

> The

> > remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. Transit of Sani

> through that

> > Nakshatr and its Trikon Nakshatras and of that Rasi and its

Trikon

> Rasis

> > will be inauspitious. During that period the knowledge, learning

> and

> > religious activities of the native will also be adversely

affected.

> >

> > 34-36. There will be gain of wealth, land and happiness and

> marriage,

> > whenever Sukr passes in transit through the Rasis, which have

> larger number

> > of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Sukr. These gains will be from

the

> > directions of the 7th Rasi from Sukr and of its Trikon Rasis. The

> effects

> > should be judged in the manner, already explained earlier, after

> multiplying

> > the Rekhas in the 7th Bhava from Sukr by the Yog Pinda.

> >

> > 37-40. The 8th Bhava from Sani signifies death, as well as

> longevity.

> > Assessment about longevity should be made from that Bhava through

> the

> > AshtakaVarg. Therefore predict distress to the native in the

year,

> equal to

> > the number of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg from Lagn up to Sani. The

> year,

> > equal to the number of Rekhas from Sani up to Lagn, will also be

of

> > distress. If in the year, equal to the total of the above Rekhas,

> Arishta

> > Dasa be also in operation, there can be possibility of death of

the

> native.

> >

> > 41-42. Multiply the Yog Pinda by the number of Rekhas in

the

> > AshtakaVarg and divide the product by 27. The death of the native

> will take

> > place, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted

by

> the

> > remainder, or its Trikon Nakshatras. Again, divide the product by

> 12. The

> > native will face danger of death, when Sani passes in transit

> through the

> > Rasi, denoted by the remainder, or through its Trikon Rasis.

> >

> > 43-44. The results will be favourable, when Sani passes in

> transit

> > through Rasis, which have larger number of Rekhas in Sani's

> AshtakaVarg.

> > Sani's transit through Rasis, which have larger number of dots,

> will produce

> > only evil effects.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ch. 71. Determination of Longevity through the AshtakaVarg

> >

> > 1-4. The sage said. I will now describe the method of

> determining

> > longevity from the AshtakaVarg. For this purpose the

AshtakaVargas

> of Lagn

> > and all the Grahas have to be studied. The Rekhas in all the

Rasis

> have been

> > allotted specific spans of life. The Rasi, which has no Rekhas,

has

> been

> > allotted 2 days, that with one Rekha gets l½ days, one day for

Rasi

> with 2

> > Rekhas, half day for Rasi with 3 Rekhas, 7½ days for Rasi with 4

> Rekhas, 2

> > years for Rasi with 5 Rekhas, 4 years for Rasi with 6 Rekhas, 6

> years for

> > Rasi with 7 Rekhas and 8 years for Rasi with 8 Rekhas. In this

> manner the

> > spans of life should be worked from Rekhas in all the

> AshtakaVargas. Half of

> > the sum total of all will be the longevity, based on AshtakaVarg.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ch. 72. Aggregational AshtakaVargas

> >

> > 1-2. The sage said. O Brahmin! Write down a Rasi Kundali

with

> 12

> > Bhavas, including Lagn. Then insert the total of the Rekhas in

all

> the

> > AshtakaVargas of the Grahas in the Rasi concerned. The

AshtakaVarg

> with such

> > Rekhas is called the Samuday AshtakaVarg, or the aggregational

> AshtakaVarg.

> > From this should be judged good and adverse effects of the Rasi

> Kundali.

> >

> > 3-5. In the aggregational AshtakaVarg the Rasi, which has

> more than 30

> > Rekhas, gives favourable effects, that, having between 25 and 30

> Rekhas,

> > produces medium effects and that Rasi, who has less than 25

Rekhas,

> yields

> > adverse effects. Auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should

> be

> > performed, when the Grah, on whose basis the time and date of

> functions are

> > performed, moves into the Rasi with favourable effects. The Rasi,

> which is

> > productive of adverse effects should be avoided for these

purposes.

> For

> > example, the strength of Candr (CandraBal) is generally

acceptable

> for all

> > auspicious functions. Therefore auspicious functions should be

> performed, or

> > started, when Candr is in the Rasi with maximum number of Rekhas.

> The Grah

> > in the Rasi with favourable number of Rekhas produces auspicious

> effects and

> > the Grah in the Rasi with unfavourable number of Rekhas yields

evil

> results.

> >

> > 6-6½. Amongst the 12 Bhavas more than 30 Rekhas advance the

> effects of

> > a Bhava, between 25 and 30 Rekhas produce medium effects and the

> effects of

> > the Bhava, which contains less than 25 Rekhas, get damaged.

> >

> > Notes. From the above rules it can be interpreted, that, if

> there are

> > less than 25 Rekhas in 6th, 8th and 12th Bhava, their effects

> become

> > favourable. The effects will become adverse, if these Bhavas

> contain more

> > than 25 Rekhas.

> >

> > 7-8. If in a Rasi Kundali there are larger number of Rekhas

> in the

> > 11th than those in 10th and there are smaller number of Rekhas in

> the 12th

> > than those in the 11th and Lagn contains largest number of

Rekhas,

> the

> > native will be wealthy and will enjoy all kinds of comforts and

> luxury.

> >

> > 9-10. Divide the 12 Bhavas in 3 sections. There will be

> sufferings and

> > distress in that part of the life, which is represented by the

> section of

> > the Rasi Kundali with more malefics. There will be happiness

etc.,

> in the

> > part of the life, represented by the section of the Rasi Kundali,

> containing

> > more benefics. There will be mixed results in that area of life,

> when the

> > relative section of the Rasi Kundali has equal number of benefics

> and

> > malefics. The Bhavas from Lagn up to the 4th signify childhood,

> those from

> > 5th to 8th youth and those from the 9th to 12th represent old age.

> >

> > 11-28. There will be danger of death in the month of the

Rasi

> (period

> > of Surya's transit in that Rasi), which has 7, or less than 7

> Rekhas in the

> > Samudaya AshtakaVarg. To ward off this evil effect 20 Tolas of

gold

> and 2

> > heaps of sesame seeds, resembling the shape of a mountain, should

> be given

> > in charity. . possibility of death ., . 8. Tuladan of camphor is

> recommended

> > to obtain relief from this evil effect. . danger of snakes ., .

9.

> A chariot

> > with 7 horses should be given in charity .. . danger from

> weapons ., which

> > contains 10 .. An armour together with Vajra should be given in

> charity to

> > ward off .. . danger of disgrace for no cause ., . 11. An idol of

> the moon,

> > made of 10 Tolas of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger

of

> death

> > from drowning ., . 12. Land full of crops should be given in

> charity .. .

> > danger of death from wild and violent animals ., in which there

are

> 13 .. A

> > Shaligram Shila should be given in charity .. . danger of

> death ., . 14. A

> > Varah Murti, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger

> of the

> > wrath of the king ., . 15. An elephant should be given in

> charity .. .

> > danger of Arishta (calamity, disaster, or misfortune) ., . 16. A

> Kalpa

> > Vriksha, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger

from

> > diseases ., that has 17 .. A cow and jaggery should be given in

> charity .. .

> > danger of conflict ., . 18. A cow, jewels, land and gold should

be

> given in

> > charity .. . possibility of banishment from the homeland ., which

> has 19 ..

> > Family deity should be worshipped .. . loss of intelligence ., .

> 20. Goddess

> > Saraswati should be worshipped .. . distress from diseases .,

that

> has 21 ..

> > A heap of grains, shaped, like a mountain, should be given in

> charity .. .

> > distress to kinsmen ., . 22. Gold should be given in charity ..

The

> native

> > will be in distress ., . 23. An idol of the sun, made of 7 Tolas

of

> gold,

> > should be given in charity .. . death of the kinsmen ., . 24. 10

> cows should

> > be given in charity .. . loss of wisdom ., . 25. Goddess

Saraswati

> should be

> > worshipped .. . loss of wealth ., . 26. Gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> > loss of wealth ., . 27. Sri Sukta Japa should be performed .. .

> losses in

> > several ways ., . 28. Havana of Surya should be performed .. .

> anxieties

> > all-round ., . 29. Ghi, clothes and gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> > gains of wealth and grains etc. ., . 30.

> >

> > 29. There will be all-round increase in wealth, happiness

in

> respect

> > of children and enjoyments in the Samvatsar, month and Nakshatr

of

> the Rasi,

> > which has more than 30 Rekhas. . increase in wealth, property,

> children and

> > good reputation, if the Rasi has more than 40 Rekhas.

> >

> > 30-31. The Rasi, which is auspicious in AshtakaVarg

Samudaya,

> is

> > considered auspicious for all auspicious functions. Consequently

> the

> > auspiciousness of AshtakaVarg should be got checked before

> performing any

> > function, like marriage etc. If a Rasi is not auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg,

> > then its auspiciousness should be checked from transit effects.

It

> is not

> > necessary to check transit effects, if a Rasi is auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg.

> > Thus the auspiciousness of the Rasi in the AshtakaVarg should be

> considered,

> > as paramount.

> >

>

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Hii all

 

Retro Saturn seems to be in auspicious?

 

any comments?

like any specific results if the lagnesh is retro?

any comments on retro saturn in 11th for a capricorn ascendant (thus

aspecting lagna)?

retro planets are supposed to very powerful isnt?

 

 

 

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Dear Balwant,

 

> I have taken the liberty of addressing you as " Dear " ,

> since i see you doing it with everyone, and which is the

> appropriate form of address too, nothwitshtanding the

> ouster of a member due to this.

 

Respected and dear Bhaskar chose to withdraw from the group, he was

not " ousted. " You've made this post to the group so I will reply in

kind. However, if you would like further clarification on it, please

email me *personally*.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

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Dear Chandramohan,

 

Think a bit on what " retrograde " means - it means " on a returning

incline " . It indicates that someone is going " backward " and changing

their direction. What if you were walking down the street to get a

haircut. Suddenly you remember you forgot something at home. You turn

around to get it. What happens to your main mission (getting to the

barber)? It doesn't disappear but it becomes " latent " - you are going

to have to exert extra energy to get it to happen again, and further

more you are going to be a little bit late. Also, your energy changes

quite a bit. If you were dreading going to the barber, then this is a

welcome distraction and you feel a bit happier. If you really wanted

to get there and were in a good mood, turning around will make you

feel annoyed.

 

This is exactly what happens when a planet goes retrograde.

 

1. It's main karma that it would have delivered become " latent " - you

have to personally make an effort to " remind " the planet what he was

supposed to do.

 

2. It's main karma get's delayed, and doesn't fructify till later in

life.

 

3. It changes it's nature *somewhat* - a benefic becomes less benefic

and a malefic becomes less malefic.

 

Retrograde Saturn in the 11th.

 

- NATURE: Saturn is normally a grief giver. Through this grief and

struggle you can experience pain and suffering to an extreme, if

saturn is poorly situation. But if saturn is well situated and

benefitted by other conditions, this same grief and struggle can turn

into deep inner realizations and spirituality, as well as the ability

to work tremendously hard to achieve great heights.

 

- LORDSHIP: for Capricorn ascendant, Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd

Houses. The first is the manifest nature of the person's life and

their sense of self and self-confidence. The second is artha - daily

wages, family interactions, diet, accumulation of knowledge.

 

- PLACEMENT: Connections between the 11th House (fulfilment of

desires, enjoyment of friendship and influence) and the 2nd and 1st.

One will use wealth and family in connection with friends and

influence. He may get easy money from his family. His sense of self is

connected with his ability to enjoy and to have friends and influence.

 

Because it's Saturn specifically it casts a ruination upon these

connections, making them negative, difficult to obtain, and distant.

This could be altered by considering influences on Saturn and Saturn's

own disposition.

 

For example, since the 11th is the Upachaya, it welcomes malefics like

Saturn, for in these places of reform malefic planets become more

benefic day by bay. So the difficulties in connection with the above

improve noticeably over time. So in turn the person will learn great

wisdom, come to a truer understanding of his or her self, and have

reliable friendships and social influence.

 

- SIGNS: Watery Scorpio is the best place for dry Saturn. There will

be trouble from emotional passions and inability to be deep and

spiritually introspective. This will improve with time and effort.

 

- RETROGRADE: Now factor in the retrograde and there will be somewhat

less negative impact, the main delivery of Saturn's effect (whatever

you finally determine it to be) will be delayed until later than

normal in life. And a person will need to consciously exert effort to

get the good fruits of Saturn .

 

NEXT - you have to consider aspects too and from saturn, also consider

the strength of the bhavas / houses owned by saturn as a result. Since

saturn is in Upachaya these houses (1 & 2) will yeild greater benefit

over time, but since Saturn is Rx, the native will not experience this

improvement unless he or she consciously puts effort towards it.

 

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Dear Vic

 

It will be a pleasure to apply ashtak varga on more examples that you or

someone else brings.

I shall wait for more examples charts like the seven planet one.

 

Regards

-m-

 

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" Vic D " <vicdicara

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, July 11, 2008 2:39 PM

Re: effect of retrograde saturn in 7th house with

mars

 

 

Dear Monica,

 

I think it's great that you are into Ashtak Vargas. I hope you will

derive a great deal of benefit by using them and understanding them

deeply. In my understanding Ashtak Vargas are meant primarily to judge

the effects of TRANSITS of the houses. I don't want to go back and

forth with you on it, as Ashtaka Varga is clearly a valid system, it's

just not a part of my foundational reasoning process for interpreting

a natal chart. If it is for you, and if you have a high success rate

on the accuracy of your predictions, that's great. I'm happy.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

 

On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Monica wrote:

 

> Dear Vic

> Here is the copy paste from BPHS with some important points at top

> regarding

> Ashtak Varga.

>

>

> Some points on why using AshtakaVarg is important.

> 1.

> O Venerable Sage! You have described many kinds of effects, relating

> to the

> Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating the views of many sages and

> Acharyas,

> but it is not possible to say with certainty, if a particular effect

> is

> quite correct, after considering the contradictions in the effects

> by the

> movements of the various Grahas.

> -----Special Stress on " but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if a

> particular effect is quite correct " .

>

> 2.

> Will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the Shastra,

> in which

> there will be no contradictions in judging the effects of happiness

> and

> sorrows and for determination of the longevity.

> -----Parashar states that using this method takes out a lot of

> subjectivity

> and gives clear cut indications.

>

> 3.

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn

> and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

> by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

> lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of

> the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

> it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

> to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

> malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference

> to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

>

>

>

> Regards

> -m-

>

>

> Ch. 66. AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. Maitreya said: " O Venerable Sage! You have described many

> kinds

> of effects, relating to the Grahas and Bhavas, after incorporating

> the views

> of many sages and Acharyas, but it is not possible to say with

> certainty, if

> a particular effect is quite correct, after considering the

> contradictions

> in the effects by the movements of the various Grahas. As because of

> sinful

> deeds, committed by people in Kaliyuga, their minds have become

> blunt, be

> kind enough to describe a method, which would enable even the

> shallow minded

> persons to ascertain their happiness and sorrows and determine their

> longevity on the basis of the positions of the Grahas in transit. "

>

> 5-6. The sage replied: " O Brahmin! You have put a very

> intelligent

> question. I will now describe the Shastra for the benefit of all, the

> Shastra, in which there will be no contradictions in judging the

> effects of

> happiness and sorrows and for determination of the longevity. You

> now listen

> to me carefully.

>

> 7-11. If the 12 Bhavas, including Lagn, are occupied by, or

> aspected

> by benefic Grahas, they yield auspicious results, according to their

> characteristics, but this happens, where the Grahas concerned are in

> their

> exaltation Rasi, own Rasi, or posited in a benefic Bhava. There will

> be no

> good effects, if such Grahas are in depression, or posited in an

> inauspicious Bhava. Similarly the Bhavas, associated with, or

> aspected by

> malefics in depression, or posited in malefic Bhavas, yield adverse

> results,

> according to their characteristics. If such Grahas be in their

> exaltation

> Rasi, the effects will not be adverse. This is how the general

> effects have

> been described by the Daivajnas. I have only repeated those effects.

> The

> main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to determine the longevity

> and

> joys and sorrows of the people, but because the movements of the

> Grahas are

> so subtle, even sages, like Vashista and Brihaspati, have not been

> able to

> be quite definite in this respect. Then how can a common man,

> particularly

> in Kaliyuga, do so.

>

> 12. There are two divisions, or parts of the Jyotish Shastra,

> namely

> general and particular. I have already dealt with the general part.

> I now

> come to the other part, which deals with this subject in particular.

>

> 13-15. As the effects of the twelve Bhavas are judged from Lagn

> and

> Candr, effects of the twelve Bhavas and the various Grahas are

> judged in the

> same manner. Therefore the inauspicious places from the seven

> Grahas, named,

> as Karan, beginning from Surya and Lagn (total 8), should be marked

> by dots

> (Bindus) and auspicious places, named, as Sthan, by small vertical

> lines

> (Rekhas) and on the basis of their assessment should the judgment of

> the

> horoscope and predictions be made. "

>

> Notes. The above arrangement is known, as AshtakaVarg. The

> meaning of

> AshtakaVarg is literally the group of eight things. In other words

> it is the

> combination of the good and bad positions of a Grah with reference

> to the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. So it is the combination of the benefic and

> malefic

> marks (the Rekhas and the Bindus) in a planet's chart with reference

> to the

> position of the eight Grahas (here Lagn is to be treated, as a Grah).

>

> 16. Five Grahas in 1st, 2nd, 8th, 3rd and the 12th Bhavas from

> Surya

> are Karanprad (dot significators). Similarly four Grahas in the 7th

> and 4th,

> three Grahas in the 6th and 9th, six Grahas in the 5th, 2 Grahas in

> the 10th

> and one Grah in the 11th are dot significators.

>

> 17-19. Thus Lagn, Candr, Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 1st, 2nd

> and 8th

> from Surya; Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru in the 12th; Budh,

> Candr,

> Sukr, Guru in the 4th; Lagn, Candr, Sukr in the 9th; Surya, Sani and

> Mangal

> in the 6th; Lagn, Budh, Guru and Candr in the 7th; Sukr in the 11th;

> Surya,

> Sani, Sukr, Guru and Mangal in the 3rd; Guru and Sukr in the 10th;

> Surya,

> Sani, Candr, Lagn Mangal and Sukr in the 5th are Karanprad, or dot

> indicators.

>

> 20-22. In Candr's AshtakaVarg 6 Grahas in the 9th and the 2nd, 5

> Grahas in the 4th, 8th and the 1st, one Grah in the 10th and the

> 3rd, 4

> Grahas in the 5th, 3 Grahas in the 6th and the 7th and 1st, eight in

> the

> 12th are Karanprad. Thus Lagn, Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr, these

> five in

> the 1st; Lagn, Budh, Surya, Candr, Sani and Sukr, these 6 in the

> 2nd; Guru

> in the 3rd; Surya, Sani, Candr, Lagn and Mangal, these 5 in the 4th;

> Sukr,

> Budh, Guru, these 3 in the 6th; Mangal, Lagn and Sani, these 3 in

> the 7th;

> Mangal, Lagn, Sani, Sukr and Candr, these five in the 8th; Lagn,

> Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru, these 6 in the 9th; Sani only in the

> 10th; none

> in the 11th; all the eight in the 12th from their own places are

> Karanprad.

> These Grahas in the other Bhavas are Rekhaprad (line significators).

>

> 23-27. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal 6 Grahas in the 12th, 4th

> and 7th,

> 5 Grahas in the 5th, 6 Grahas in the 2nd, 7 Grahas in the 9th, 5

> Grahas in

> the 1st and 8th, 4 Grahas in the 3rd, 3 Grahas in the 10th and 2

> Grahas in

> the 6th are Karanprad. In the 11th no Grah is Karanprad. In other

> words all

> the Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhaprad. Thus

> Surya,

> Candr, Budh, Guru and Sukr, these five in the 1st; Lagn, Surya,

> Candr, Budh,

> Guru and Sani, these 6 in the 2nd; Sukr, Mangal, Guru and Sani,

> these 4 in

> the 3rd; Surya, Candr, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 4th; Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th; Mangal and Sani,

> these 2 in

> the 6th; Budh, Candr, Surya, Sukr, Guru and Lagn, these 6 in the

> 7th; Budh,

> Candr, Surya, Lagn and Guru, these five in the 8th; Surya, Candr,

> Mangal,

> Budh, Guru, Sukr and Lagn, these 7 in the 9th; Sukr, Candr and Budh,

> these 3

> in the 10th; none in the 11th; Surya, Sani, Budh, Candr, Lagn and

> Mangal,

> these 6 in the 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 28-30. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh 3 Grahas in the 1st, 2nd,

> 4th, 10th,

> 6th and 9th, 2 Grahas in the 8th, 6 Grahas in the 3rd and the 7th,

> none in

> the 11th, 5 Grahas in the 5th and 12th are Karanprad. Thus Surya,

> Candr and

> Guru, these 3 in the 1st; Guru, Surya and Budh, these 3 in the 2nd;

> Lagn,

> Surya, Mangal, Sani, Candr and Guru, these 6 in the 3rd; Budh, Surya

> and

> Guru, these 3 in the 4th; Guru, Mangal, Candr, Sani and Lagn, these

> 5 in the

> 5th; Sukr, Sani and Mangal, these 3 in the 6th; Budh, Candr, Lagn,

> Surya,

> Sukr and Guru, these 6 in the 7th; Budh and Surya, these 2 in the

> 8th; Guru,

> Candr and Lagn, these 3 in the 9th; Surya, Guru and Sukr, these 3 in

> the

> 10th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Sukr these 5

> in the

> 12th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 31-34. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru one Grah in the 2nd and 11th, 2

> Grahas in the 10th, 7 Grahas in the 12th, 4 Grahas in the 6th, 5

> Grahas in

> the 8th and 3rd, 3 Grahas in the remaining Bhavas are Karanprad.

> Thus Sukr,

> Candr and Sani, these 3 in the 1st; Sani in the 2nd and 11th; Lagn,

> Mangal,

> Candr, Budh and Sukr, these 5 in the 3rd; Surya, Guru and Mangal,

> these 3 in

> the 5th; Sukr, Sani and Candr, these 3 in the 4th; Budh, Sukr and

> Sani,

> these 3 in the 7th; Guru, Mangal, Surya and Candr, these 4 in the

> 6th; all

> except Sani, these 7 in the 12th; Candr and Sani, these 2 in the

> 10th; Sani,

> Mangal and Guru, these 3 in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Sukr, Candr and

> Budh, these

> 5 in the 8th from their own places are Karanprad.

>

> 35-38. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr 2 Grahas in the 5th, 8th and

> 3rd, 5

> Grahas in the 1st, 2nd, 12th, 10th, 8 Grahas in the 7th, 6 Grahas in

> the

> 6th, one in the 9th, 3 in the 4th, none in the 11th are Karanpradas.

> Thus

> Surya, Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sani, these 5 in the 1st and the 2nd;

> all the

> 8 Grahas in the 7th; Guru and Surya, these 2 in the 3rd; Surya and

> Mangal,

> these 2 in the 5th; Surya in 9th; Surya, Budh and Guru, these 3 in

> the 4th;

> Mangal and Budh, these 2 in the 8th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Sani, Lagn

> and

> Guru, these 6 in the 6th; none in the 11th; Lagn, Sani, Budh, Sukr

> and Guru,

> these 5 in the 12th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Candr, Surya, these 5 in

> the 10th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 39-42. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani 7 Grahas in the 2nd, 7th,

> 9th, 6

> Grahas in the 8th, Lagn and 4th, 4 Grahas in the 10th, 3rd and 12th,

> one

> Grah in the 6th, 5 Grahas in the 5th, none in the 11th are

> Karanpradas. Thus

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 6 in the 4th and the

> 1st;

> Candr, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the 2nd

> and the

> 7th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 7 in the

> 9th;

> Candr, Guru, Sukr and Sani, these 4 in the 10th; Guru, Surya, Budh

> and Sukr,

> these 4 in the 3rd; Surya in the 6th; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Surya,

> these 4 in

> the 12th; Sukr, Surya, Candr, Budh and Lagn, these 5 in the 5th;

> Candr,

> Mangal, Guru, Sukr, Sani and Lagn, these 6 in the 8th; none in the

> 11th from

> their own places are Karanpradas. The remaining places are

> Rekhapradas and

> are auspicious.

>

> 43-45. The sage said. Now I will describe the auspicious Bhavas

> for

> the benefit of the Acharyas. In the AshtakaVarg of Surya: Sani,

> Mangal and

> Surya in the 2nd, 8th and 1st; Guru and Budh in the 5th; Budh, Candr

> and

> Lagn in the 3rd; Lagn, Surya, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn,

> Surya, Sani,

> Mangal, Budh and Candr in the 10th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh,

> Guru, Sani

> and Lagn in the 11th; Lagn, Sukr and Budh in the 12th; Lagn, Sukr,

> Budh,

> Guru and Candr in the 6th; Surya, Mangal, Sani and Sukr in the 7th;

> Surya,

> Mangal, Sani, Budh and Guru in the 9th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 46-48. In the AshtakaVarg of Candr: Budh, Candr and Guru in the

> 1st;

> Guru and Mangal in the 2nd; Budh, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani, Sukr

> and Lagn

> in the 3rd; Guru, Sukr and Budh in the 4th; Mangal, Budh, Sukr and

> Sani in

> the 5th; Surya, Candr, Mangal, Sani and Lagn in the 6th; Surya,

> Candr, Guru,

> Budh and Sukr in the 7th; Surya, Budh and Guru in the 8th; Sukr and

> Candr in

> the 9th; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr, Candr, Lagn and Mangal in the 10th

> and all

> the 8 Grahas in the 11th from their own places are Rekhapradas. No

> Grah is

> Rekhaprad in the 12th.

>

> 49-50. In the AshtakaVarg of Mangal: Lagn, Sani and Mangal in

> the 1st;

> Mangal in the 2nd; Lagn, Budh, Candr and Surya in the 3rd; Sani and

> Mangal

> in the 4th; Budh and Surya in the 5th; Budh, Candr, Guru, Surya,

> Lagn and

> Sukr in the 6th; Sani and Mangal in the 7th; Sani, Mangal and Sukr

> in the

> 8th; Sani in the 9th; Mangal, Surya, Guru, Sani and Lagn in 10th;

> all in the

> 11th and Guru and Sukr in the 12th from their own places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 51-52. In the AshtakaVarg of Budh: Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Sukr and

> Budh

> in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal, Candr, Sukr and Sani in the 2nd; Sukr and

> Budh in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Candr, Sani, Sukr and Mangal in the 4th; Budh, Sani

> and Sukr

> in the 5th; Guru, Budh, Surya, Candr and Lagn in the 6th; Mangal and

> Sani in

> the 7th; Mangal, Sani, Lagn, Candr, Sukr and Guru in the 8th; Sani,

> Mangal,

> Surya, Budh and Sukr in the 9th; Lagn, Sani, Mangal, Budh and Candr

> in the

> 10th; all in the 11th and Guru, Budh and Surya in the 12th from

> their own

> places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 53-55. In the AshtakaVarg of Guru: Lagn, Mangal, Surya and Budh

> in the

> 1st and 4th; Guru, Lagn, Mangal, Surya, Budh, Candr and Sukr in the

> 2nd;

> Sani, Guru and Surya in the 3rd; Sukr, Candr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in

> the

> 5th; Sukr, Lagn, Budh and Sani in the 6th; Lagn, Mangal, Guru, Surya

> and

> Candr in the 7th; Guru, Surya and Mangal in the 8th; Sukr, Surya,

> Lagn,

> Candr and Budh in the 9th; Guru, Budh, Mangal, Surya, Sukr and Lagn

> in the

> 10th; all except Sani in the 11th and Sani in the 12th from their

> own places

> are Rekhapradas.

>

> 56-58. In the AshtakaVarg of Sukr: Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the

> 1st;

> Lagn, Sukr and Candr in the 2nd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Budh, Sani and

> Mangal in

> the 3rd; Lagn, Sukr, Candr, Sani and Mangal in the 4th; Lagn, Budh,

> Candr,

> Guru, Sani and Sukr in the 5th; Budh and Mangal in the 6th; none in

> the 7th;

> Sukr, Surya, Candr, Guru, Lagn and Sani in the 8th; all except Surya

> in the

> 9th; Sukr, Guru and Sani in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Candr

> and

> Surya in the 12th from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 59-60. In the AshtakaVarg of Sani: Surya and Lagn in the 1st;

> Surya in

> the 2nd; Lagn, Candr, Mangal and Sani in the 3rd; Lagn and Surya in

> the 4th;

> Guru, Sani and Mangal in the 5th; all except Surya in the 6th; Surya

> in the

> 7th; Surya and Budh in the 8th; Budh in the 9th; Surya, Mangal, Lagn

> and

> Budh in the 10th; all in the 11th; Mangal, Budh, Guru and Sukr in

> the 12th

> from their own places are Rekhapradas.

>

> 61-64. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn 3 Grahas in the 1st and 4th, 2

> Grahas in the 3rd, 5 Grahas in the 2nd, 6 Grahas in the 5th, 8th,

> 9th and

> 12th, one Grah in the 10th, 11th and 6th and all except Guru in the

> 7th are

> Karanpradas. Thus Lagn, Surya and Candr in the 1st; Lagn, Mangal,

> Candr,

> Surya and Sani in the 2nd; Guru and Budh in the 3rd; Lagn, Candr,

> Mangal,

> Budh, Sani and Surya in the 5th; Lagn, Candr and Mangal in the 4th;

> Sukr in

> the 6th; all except Guru in the 7th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal,

> Guru and

> Sani in the 8th; Lagn, Surya, Candr, Mangal, Budh and Sani in the

> 9th; Sukr

> in the 10th and 11th; Lagn, Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the

> 12th

> from their own places are Karanpradas.

>

> 65-68. In the AshtakaVarg of Lagn: Sani, Budh, Sukr, Guru and

> Mangal

> in the 1st; Budh, Guru and Sukr in the 2nd; Lagn, Surya, Candr,

> Mangal, Sukr

> and Sani in 3rd; Surya, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani in the 4th; Guru

> and Sukr

> in the 5th; all except Sukr in the 6th; Guru in the 7th; Budh and

> Sukr in

> the 8th; Guru and Sukr in the 9th; all except Sukr in the 10th; all

> except

> Sukr in the 11th and Surya and Candr in the 12th from their own

> places are

> Rekhapradas.

>

> 69. In the charts of AshtakaVarg Karan is signified by a Bindu,

> or dot

> (0) and Sthan by a Rekhapradas, or line (1). Karan is inauspicious,

> while

> Sthan is auspicious.

>

> 70-72. To identify the auspicious and inauspicious Bhavas in the

> AshtakaVarg a chart should be prepared with 14 horizontal lines and

> ten

> vertical lines. The form of the chart so prepared will consist of 117

> apartments. In this chart in the first line incorporates the names

> of the

> seven Grahas and Lagn. In the first column write the numbers of all

> the 12

> Bhavas. After this mark dots under the Grah and against the Karanprad

> Bhavas. By doing so the Karanprad Bhavas of all the 8 Grahas,

> including

> Lagn, will become known clearly and whenever the AshtakaVarg Grah

> will pass

> in transit the dot-marked Bhavas, he will yield unfavourable

> results. In his

> transit to other Bhavas he would give favourable effects.The

> following table

> shows the dots in the AshtakaVarg of Surya.

>

>

>

Ch. 70. Effects of the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-6. The matters to be considered from Surya and other Grahas

> are, as

> follows. Surya - the soul (Atma), nature, physical strength, joys and

> sorrows and father. Candr - mind, wisdom, joy and mother. Mangal -

> co-borns,

> strength, qualities and land. Budh - business dealings, livelihood and

> friends. Guru - nourishment of the body, learning, son (children),

> wealth

> and property. Sukr - marriage, enjoyments, conveyance, prostitution

> and

> sexual intercourse with women. Sani - longevity, source of

> maintenance,

> grief, danger, losses and death. The following procedure should be

> adopted

> to ascertain the effects of a house. Multiply the number of Rekhas

> with the

> Yog Pinda (Rasi Pinda plus Grah Pinda), connected with the

> AshtakaVarg of

> that Grah and divide the product by 27. The remainder will denote

> the number

> of the Nakshatr. During the transit of Sani in that Nakshatr the Bhava

> concerned will be harmed.

>

> 7-9. The 9th house from Surya at the time of birth deals with

> father.

> The Rekhas of that Rasi, as marked in Surya's AshtakaVarg, should be

> multiplied by the Yog Pinda and the product be divided by 27. The

> remainder

> will denote the number of Nakshatr. The father will be in distress,

> or he

> will otherwise suffer, when Sani in transit passes through the

> Nakshatr.

> Even, when Sani passes in transit the Trikon Nakshatras, father, or

> relatives, like father, may die, or suffer.

>

> Notes. By dividing the 27 Nakshatras in three equal parts, the

> 1st,

> 10th and 19th fall in Trikon from each other. Surya is PitraKarak

> (significator of father). Therefore all about father is ascertained

> from the

> Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 10-11. If the AshtakaVarg Rekha number is multiplied by the Yog

> Pinda

> and the product is divided by 12, the remainder will denote the Rasi,

> through which, or through the Rasis in Trikon to it, the transit of

> Sani

> will cause harm, or unfavourable effects to father. Death of the

> father may

> occur, if the Dasa prevailing at that time be unfavourable. If the

> Dasa be

> favourable, father will face only adverse effects.

>

> (12-15 Arishta to Father) 12-14. The death of the father may be

> expected, if Rahu, Sani, or Mangal are in the 4th from Surya at the

> time of

> transit of Sani through any of the above three Rasis (Trikon Rasis).

> The

> death of the father will come to pass by such transit, if at that

> time Sani,

> associated, or aspected by a malefic, be in the 9th from Lagn, or

> Candr

> and/or the Dasa of the Lord of the 4th from Lagn be in operation.

> The death

> does not take place, if a favourable Dasa be in force at the time of

> Sani's

> transit. This should be kept in mind by the Jyotishis, while making

> predictions.

>

> 15. If the Rasi of Lagn of the native be the 8th Rasi from Lagn

> of the

> father, or, if the Lord of the 8th from father's Lagn be in Lagn of

> the

> native, he takes over all the responsibilities of his father after the

> latter's death.

>

> 16-18. The father enjoys happiness in the Dasa of the Lord of

> the 4th

> from Lagn. The native is obedient to his father, if the Lord of the

> 4th be

> in Lagn, or the 11th, or in the 11th, or 10th from Candr. If the

> birth be in

> the 3rd Rasi from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native makes

> proper use

> of the wealth, inherited from his father. If the birth be in the

> 10th Rasi

> from Lagn, or Candr of the father, the native will inherit all the

> good

> qualities of his father. If the Lord of the 10th be in Lagn, the

> native will

> be more distinguished than his father.

>

> 19-20. No auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

> performed in the month of Rasis (that is, when Surya transits that

> Rasi),

> which has more number of dots in Surya's AshtakaVarg. The same

> applies to

> the Samvatsar of that Rasi (that is, when the mean Guru transits

> that Rasi).

> Auspicious functions should be performed, when Surya, or the mean Guru

> transits the Rasi, which has more Rekhas in Surya's AshtakaVarg.

>

> 21-23. In the same manner no auspicious functions should be

> performed

> during the transit of Candr in the Rasi, which has larger number of

> dots in

> Candr's AshtakaVarg. Consideration, regarding mother, house and

> village,

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Candr. Therefore multiply the

> number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Candr by the Yog Pinda of that

> AshtakaVarg

> and divide the product by 27. The death of, or distress to mother

> may be

> expected, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted

> by the

> remainder. Then divide the product by 12. The death of the mother

> may occur,

> when Sani transits the Rasi, denoted by the remainder. Distress to

> mother

> may be predicted, when Sani transits the Nakshatras, or Rasis in

> Trikon to

> Nakshatr and Rasi, indicated above.

>

> 24-27. Consideration of brothers (co-borns), valour and

> patience is

> done from Mangal's AshtakaVarg. If the number of Rekha is larger in

> any Rasi

> after Trikon Shodhana, there will be gains of land, happiness from

> wife and

> great happiness to brother, when Mangal passes through that Rasi in

> transit.

> If Mangal be weak, the brothers will be short lived. There will be

> distress

> to brothers, when Mangal transits a Rasi without Rekhas. Here also

> the Yog

> Pinda of Mangal should be multiplied by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and the product be divided separately by 27 and 12. The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. The brother will suffer,

> whenever Sani transits that Nakshatr, or Rasi (or the Trikon

> Nakshatras, or

> Rasis).

>

> 28-29. Consideration in regard to family, maternal uncle and

> friends

> should be done from the 4th Bhava from Budh. The family etc. will

> enjoy

> happiness during the transit of Budh's AshtakaVarg. After performing

> Trikon

> and Ekadhipatya Shodhana in Budh's AshtakaVarg, the happiness, or

> distress

> of the family should be predicted from the transit of Sani through the

> resultant Nakshatr and Rasi (and those in Trikon to them).

>

> 30-33. All about knowledge, religious inclinations of the

> native and

> son (progeny) is to be ascertained from the 5th Bhava from Guru. If

> the

> Rekhas in the 5th Bhava from Guru are larger in number in the

> AshtakaVarg,

> there will be great happiness in respect of progeny. If the dots are

> larger

> in number, the happiness in respect of progeny will be meagre. The

> number of

> children are equal to the number of Rekhas in the 5th Bhava (from

> Guru),

> provided it is not the Rasi of debilitation of Guru, or his enemy's

> Rasi. In

> that case the number of children will be very limited. The number of

> children is also equal to the number of Navams, in which the Lord of

> the 5th

> from Guru is posited. Multiply the Yog Pinda of Guru by the number

> of Rekhas

> in the AshtakaVarg and divide the product separately by 27 and 12. The

> remainders will denote the Nakshatr and Rasi. Transit of Sani

> through that

> Nakshatr and its Trikon Nakshatras and of that Rasi and its Trikon

> Rasis

> will be inauspitious. During that period the knowledge, learning and

> religious activities of the native will also be adversely affected.

>

> 34-36. There will be gain of wealth, land and happiness and

> marriage,

> whenever Sukr passes in transit through the Rasis, which have larger

> number

> of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg of Sukr. These gains will be from the

> directions of the 7th Rasi from Sukr and of its Trikon Rasis. The

> effects

> should be judged in the manner, already explained earlier, after

> multiplying

> the Rekhas in the 7th Bhava from Sukr by the Yog Pinda.

>

> 37-40. The 8th Bhava from Sani signifies death, as well as

> longevity.

> Assessment about longevity should be made from that Bhava through the

> AshtakaVarg. Therefore predict distress to the native in the year,

> equal to

> the number of Rekhas in the AshtakaVarg from Lagn up to Sani. The

> year,

> equal to the number of Rekhas from Sani up to Lagn, will also be of

> distress. If in the year, equal to the total of the above Rekhas,

> Arishta

> Dasa be also in operation, there can be possibility of death of the

> native.

>

> 41-42. Multiply the Yog Pinda by the number of Rekhas in the

> AshtakaVarg and divide the product by 27. The death of the native

> will take

> place, when Sani passes in transit through the Nakshatr, denoted by

> the

> remainder, or its Trikon Nakshatras. Again, divide the product by

> 12. The

> native will face danger of death, when Sani passes in transit

> through the

> Rasi, denoted by the remainder, or through its Trikon Rasis.

>

> 43-44. The results will be favourable, when Sani passes in

> transit

> through Rasis, which have larger number of Rekhas in Sani's

> AshtakaVarg.

> Sani's transit through Rasis, which have larger number of dots, will

> produce

> only evil effects.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 71. Determination of Longevity through the AshtakaVarg

>

> 1-4. The sage said. I will now describe the method of determining

> longevity from the AshtakaVarg. For this purpose the AshtakaVargas

> of Lagn

> and all the Grahas have to be studied. The Rekhas in all the Rasis

> have been

> allotted specific spans of life. The Rasi, which has no Rekhas, has

> been

> allotted 2 days, that with one Rekha gets l½ days, one day for Rasi

> with 2

> Rekhas, half day for Rasi with 3 Rekhas, 7½ days for Rasi with 4

> Rekhas, 2

> years for Rasi with 5 Rekhas, 4 years for Rasi with 6 Rekhas, 6

> years for

> Rasi with 7 Rekhas and 8 years for Rasi with 8 Rekhas. In this

> manner the

> spans of life should be worked from Rekhas in all the AshtakaVargas.

> Half of

> the sum total of all will be the longevity, based on AshtakaVarg.

>

>

>

>

> Ch. 72. Aggregational AshtakaVargas

>

> 1-2. The sage said. O Brahmin! Write down a Rasi Kundali with 12

> Bhavas, including Lagn. Then insert the total of the Rekhas in all the

> AshtakaVargas of the Grahas in the Rasi concerned. The AshtakaVarg

> with such

> Rekhas is called the Samuday AshtakaVarg, or the aggregational

> AshtakaVarg.

> From this should be judged good and adverse effects of the Rasi

> Kundali.

>

> 3-5. In the aggregational AshtakaVarg the Rasi, which has more

> than 30

> Rekhas, gives favourable effects, that, having between 25 and 30

> Rekhas,

> produces medium effects and that Rasi, who has less than 25 Rekhas,

> yields

> adverse effects. Auspicious functions, like marriage etc., should be

> performed, when the Grah, on whose basis the time and date of

> functions are

> performed, moves into the Rasi with favourable effects. The Rasi,

> which is

> productive of adverse effects should be avoided for these purposes.

> For

> example, the strength of Candr (CandraBal) is generally acceptable

> for all

> auspicious functions. Therefore auspicious functions should be

> performed, or

> started, when Candr is in the Rasi with maximum number of Rekhas.

> The Grah

> in the Rasi with favourable number of Rekhas produces auspicious

> effects and

> the Grah in the Rasi with unfavourable number of Rekhas yields evil

> results.

>

> 6-6½. Amongst the 12 Bhavas more than 30 Rekhas advance the

> effects of

> a Bhava, between 25 and 30 Rekhas produce medium effects and the

> effects of

> the Bhava, which contains less than 25 Rekhas, get damaged.

>

> Notes. From the above rules it can be interpreted, that, if

> there are

> less than 25 Rekhas in 6th, 8th and 12th Bhava, their effects become

> favourable. The effects will become adverse, if these Bhavas contain

> more

> than 25 Rekhas.

>

> 7-8. If in a Rasi Kundali there are larger number of Rekhas in

> the

> 11th than those in 10th and there are smaller number of Rekhas in

> the 12th

> than those in the 11th and Lagn contains largest number of Rekhas, the

> native will be wealthy and will enjoy all kinds of comforts and

> luxury.

>

> 9-10. Divide the 12 Bhavas in 3 sections. There will be

> sufferings and

> distress in that part of the life, which is represented by the

> section of

> the Rasi Kundali with more malefics. There will be happiness etc.,

> in the

> part of the life, represented by the section of the Rasi Kundali,

> containing

> more benefics. There will be mixed results in that area of life,

> when the

> relative section of the Rasi Kundali has equal number of benefics and

> malefics. The Bhavas from Lagn up to the 4th signify childhood,

> those from

> 5th to 8th youth and those from the 9th to 12th represent old age.

>

> 11-28. There will be danger of death in the month of the Rasi

> (period

> of Surya's transit in that Rasi), which has 7, or less than 7 Rekhas

> in the

> Samudaya AshtakaVarg. To ward off this evil effect 20 Tolas of gold

> and 2

> heaps of sesame seeds, resembling the shape of a mountain, should be

> given

> in charity. . possibility of death ., . 8. Tuladan of camphor is

> recommended

> to obtain relief from this evil effect. . danger of snakes ., . 9. A

> chariot

> with 7 horses should be given in charity .. . danger from weapons .,

> which

> contains 10 .. An armour together with Vajra should be given in

> charity to

> ward off .. . danger of disgrace for no cause ., . 11. An idol of

> the moon,

> made of 10 Tolas of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of

> death

> from drowning ., . 12. Land full of crops should be given in

> charity .. .

> danger of death from wild and violent animals ., in which there are

> 13 .. A

> Shaligram Shila should be given in charity .. . danger of death ., .

> 14. A

> Varah Murti, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger of

> the

> wrath of the king ., . 15. An elephant should be given in charity .. .

> danger of Arishta (calamity, disaster, or misfortune) ., . 16. A Kalpa

> Vriksha, made of gold, should be given in charity .. . danger from

> diseases ., that has 17 .. A cow and jaggery should be given in

> charity .. .

> danger of conflict ., . 18. A cow, jewels, land and gold should be

> given in

> charity .. . possibility of banishment from the homeland ., which

> has 19 ..

> Family deity should be worshipped .. . loss of intelligence ., . 20.

> Goddess

> Saraswati should be worshipped .. . distress from diseases ., that

> has 21 ..

> A heap of grains, shaped, like a mountain, should be given in

> charity .. .

> distress to kinsmen ., . 22. Gold should be given in charity .. The

> native

> will be in distress ., . 23. An idol of the sun, made of 7 Tolas of

> gold,

> should be given in charity .. . death of the kinsmen ., . 24. 10

> cows should

> be given in charity .. . loss of wisdom ., . 25. Goddess Saraswati

> should be

> worshipped .. . loss of wealth ., . 26. Gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> loss of wealth ., . 27. Sri Sukta Japa should be performed .. .

> losses in

> several ways ., . 28. Havana of Surya should be performed .. .

> anxieties

> all-round ., . 29. Ghi, clothes and gold should be given in

> charity .. .

> gains of wealth and grains etc. ., . 30.

>

> 29. There will be all-round increase in wealth, happiness in

> respect

> of children and enjoyments in the Samvatsar, month and Nakshatr of

> the Rasi,

> which has more than 30 Rekhas. . increase in wealth, property,

> children and

> good reputation, if the Rasi has more than 40 Rekhas.

>

> 30-31. The Rasi, which is auspicious in AshtakaVarg Samudaya, is

> considered auspicious for all auspicious functions. Consequently the

> auspiciousness of AshtakaVarg should be got checked before

> performing any

> function, like marriage etc. If a Rasi is not auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg,

> then its auspiciousness should be checked from transit effects. It

> is not

> necessary to check transit effects, if a Rasi is auspicious in

> AshtakaVarg.

> Thus the auspiciousness of the Rasi in the AshtakaVarg should be

> considered,

> as paramount.

>

>

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Dear Monica,

 

> It will be a pleasure to apply ashtak varga on more examples that

> you or

> someone else brings.

 

Thanks. In the meantime, I would be honored if you would research my

opinion that AshtakVarga is best used in conjunction with

understanding the effects of transits and is not primarily used for

understanding natal effects.

 

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Hi Raju

Can you give the full details (place, DOB and Time of birth)?

Generally a conjunction of Saturn and Mars (the degree of conjunction

is also important) is not considered good, a tendency to turn the

martian energies towards baser levels.... The position of Venus and

its strength needs to be gauged. A look at the navamsa becomes important.

 

 

regards

arun

 

 

 

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> Dear members

> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem in

his married life ?

> with kind regards

> raju

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Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house constitutes a

rajyoga.

 

Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have not had

the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook this post

if someone else has given a similar point of view.

 

Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all facets

of a persons chart are good.

 

Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

 

So the chart has to be studied in totality.

 

Best Wishes.

-- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan <centumraju

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> Dear members

> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem in

his married life ?

> with kind regards

> raju

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Dear Neenako,

 

A rajyoga? What am I missing? Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd and Mars

rules the 4th and 11th. I don't see how this puts a Rajyoga on the 7th

House. If Mars ruled the 5th or 9th then I could see it. I know there

are a lot of other yogas that are also called RajaYoga, is this one of

those? Please clarify. Thanks

 

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> -

> Hi,

>

> Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house constitutes a

> rajyoga.

>

> Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have not had

> the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook this post

> if someone else has given a similar point of view.

>

> Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all facets

> of a persons chart are good.

>

> Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

>

> So the chart has to be studied in totality.

>

> Best Wishes.

> -- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan <centumraju

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear members

>> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th house

> alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any problem in

> his married life ?

>> with kind regards

>> raju

>>

>

>

>

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Yes Vic,

Strange though it may seem , for Capricorn lagna, these two in the

7th form a rajyog. Mind you , the operative point is that FOR

CAPRICORN lagna it is a rajyog.

 

Don't ask me to quote any book or author for this is something I

read a long time ago. But can vouch for it from experience.

 

But then don't miss the debilitation of Mars and the exaltation

sign lord of Mars is giving a good neechbhanga to Mars in this

combination.

 

Best Wishes.

-- In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

>

> Dear Neenako,

>

> A rajyoga? What am I missing? Saturn rules the 1st and 2nd and

Mars

> rules the 4th and 11th. I don't see how this puts a Rajyoga on the

7th

> House. If Mars ruled the 5th or 9th then I could see it. I know

there

> are a lot of other yogas that are also called RajaYoga, is this

one of

> those? Please clarify. Thanks

>

> Yours,

> Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

> http://www.vedicastrologer.net

>

> On Jul 12, 2008, at 1:44 AM, neenako wrote:

>

> > -

> > Hi,

> >

> > Saturn with Mars for Capricorn Lagna, in the 7th house

constitutes a

> > rajyoga.

> >

> > Other members , I can see have given their opinions but I have

not had

> > the time to go through all the mails. So please , overlook this

post

> > if someone else has given a similar point of view.

> >

> > Having said that, a rajyoga does not necessarily mean that all

facets

> > of a persons chart are good.

> >

> > Its effects on married life would be dependant on dasas too.

> >

> > So the chart has to be studied in totality.

> >

> > Best Wishes.

> > -- In jyotish-vidya , Raju kannan <centumraju@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear members

> >> what would be the effect if retrograde saturn occupying 7th

house

> > alonwith mars for capricorn lagna person? will there be any

problem in

> > his married life ?

> >> with kind regards

> >> raju

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

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