Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Dear List, Happy Diwali to you all. May we all be blessed and uplifted by this auspicious celebration of eternal light. May Lord Ganesha remove all obstacles in your lives, and may Goddesss Lakshmi bring all prosperity. It's intriguing reading more of this celebration, and that it begins on amavasya, celebrated by lighting diyas to drive away the darkness. All best wishes, Patrice _____ Pujay shri Wendji and Patrice, Jay shree Krishana, Many many thanks 2 both of u - I really feel joyful when read yr mail, going through gives a peace in mind and soul - I have kept on following the advice given to me since the beginning of Ketu Maha Dasha - prayers and meditation which has not only helped me but get a good experience and Self observation + s/control. that is the reason I always feel Que Sara Que sara. with best wishes for the seasons to all of u and members of the list. May the Divine Light of Diwali Spread into your Life Peace, Prosperity, Happiness and Good Health. and together with all your family members. Hari bol pdk Patrice Curry <patricecurry@ <patricecurry%40comcast.net> comcast.net> wrote: HI Dear PDK and List, Sorry to hear of your hardships, PDK. I hope your health is improving as well as feelings of depression. My thoughts on this were written 4th of November but haven't found time to return to it. So this is written from what the transits were that day PDK. I wanted to mention that this Sun debilitated in Libra - also has Libra's lord, Venus in debility in Sun's star. This is the only planet currently in Sun's star. This fact that both the Sun and the lord of this sign of debility are neecha is more difficult in general for Sun - as well as having this neecha Venus in Sun's star... This gives a kind of parivartana - not technically so, but this exchange going on. PDK, this Venus moved into Virgo, two days ago, and you make note of the situation there during these days. When we look at your natal chart Saturn also in Venus star along with your ascendant and Mercury. The transits of Moon and Mercury are interesting right now as there is also an exchange of both the transiting Moon and Mercury right on your natal Mercury and Moon as well as today. (November 4th - Transiting Moon on your natal Mercury and Transiting Mercury on your natal Moon.) Below you've mentioned that Saturn is entering Magha in July next year - it's actually in Magha right now. Leaves Magha into Poorva Phalguni this Saturday on November 10th.. Stations and goes retrograde again at 14:41 Leo still in Poorva Phalguni, returning into Magha on January 27th where it stays and stations again at 7:48 Leo in Magha on May 2nd. On July 27th Saturn moves from Magha into Poorva Phalguni again. It is a tough transit for you for all the reasons you've stated as well as what you mentioned below regarding your 'better half' - getting more difficult a couple days ago when Venus also went neecha... Wendy's great advice for taking actions to pacify Saturn which is still important with all these Saturn transits mentioned above. I think important too at this current time to help and strengthen your Sun until November 15th. And Venus: - perhaps pacifying Venus. It looks to be a difficult time for you with respect to your relationship as you've mentioned, and even once Sun moves on November 15th into Scorpio, at that time transiting and neecha Venus on your natal Ketu, and quickly then also moving towards your natal Mars. Both in Hasta, Moon's star and TVenus enters Hasta next Monday. Surely all on your mind and emotions and tough for you. Natally Moon and Venus have parivartana in your chart (if your 8:00 is correct birth time, at 8:00 or later). I use Krishnamurti ayanamsa, but either Krishnamurti or Lahiri puts you with Venus pratyantardasa right now. Venus in transit moves very quickly so perhaps these effects strongest currently and approaching. Listening to Navagraha Stortam, which Wendy has put on her website a link for this, and/or if possible having puja for all the planets may make this time more comfortable for you. Great that you are focused on prayer and I'm sure your prayers are very helpful... As well meditation clearly would be useful as well with both Saturn and Ketu involved here and both signifying meditation. For me I'm always drawn to Moon and Mary, which Mary may be here more in the west. Helpful for the mind, emotions, and how we feel. Mind and Moon so important and the effects on every aspect of our lives, which is also why meditation has proven to be important and helpful. Although clearly Neptune isn't used in traditional Jyotish, I personally find it useful with medical and in other ways. I've noticed your natal Neptune is exactly on my natal Ketu.. The current transit at this point in your chart may be a very spiritual time for you. Try not to become too disillusioned/disenchanted in an unhealthy way. Perhaps at this time encourage your poetic, intuitive side as well as compassion for yourself. Kindest regards, Patrice _____ Dear members of the List, Apart of the gocher situation,i.e. Saturn in Leo -please note that Saturn is entering Magha in July next year - if I go into my own chart which is Asc- Leo where all of u are fully aware all the planets - and Rahu being in 7H -it is effecting not only health but also family life specifically relation with better half - Please note that Asc is Purvaphal - Sun and Neptune - both of them are in Magha hence when Saturn enter Magha July - GOD ONLY knowes the result of my life. Although prayers are helping me to keep my mind under control but at time the situation becomes very very depressing - say for instance last to days has been like a hell. It is quite understand able - because I am passing through Ketu Maha Dasha also it effects health and overhaul situation - In case anyone whats to study my chart, birth details are as follows: DOB 18 / 08 / 1931 TOB 08.00 A.M. P.O.B. KARACHI [ PAKISTAN] IN 31 IT WAS IN INDIA. comments of all learn ed members are well come - Hari bol pdk Patrice Curry <patricecurry@ <patricecurry%40comcast.net> comcast.net> wrote: Hi Dear Nilesh, Bhaskar, Surya, and List, If we look today at the transit of Saturn in Leo Nilesh, the transit chart at this time shows Sun and Saturn to be mutually neutral to one another. However, Sun is in debility in Saturn's exaltation house, nearly at the most full exaltation point for Saturn, with Saturn giving aspect to both the Sun and Libra, as you mentioned, and also giving aspect to whichever house this is in specific charts. So we could say that Saturn is definitely having a strong impact on the sign of Leo and the Lord of that sign, Sun. We would also have to look at what else is affecting the sign of Leo and Sun. Currently Ketu is also in Leo, and as I write the Moon as well. Aspecting this Leo is TJupiter - and TRahu is affecting this as well as Ketu and Rahu must be considered together. And although today there is no aspect with Mars, Mars is at 17 degrees in a trine to Sun at 17 degrees exactly, so today I would also consider this. Also looking at Aquarius, and which house this is in the chart, a different affect there, but activated or energized and something else to consider depending on the house. For me personally, TSaturn is exactly on my natal Ketu in my first house, so the effects of this transit are experienced differently for me than they would be for someone else with a different chart. But could we say this is a benefic transit? Depending on what we are looking at, which aspect of my life, we could say it's benefic. Much depends on the natal chart and therefore the psyche, the goals, other particulars of the native. And really we can't generalize the entire transit of Saturn through Leo as the daily transits change, the nakshatras activated change via the other planets, and the other planets themselves positions changing as well. Even some write that the beginning of this transit in Leo would have a different effect then once it's been there awhile, and again perhaps as it is in the latter degrees of Leo. Also I haven't expressed the ashtakavarga points, which I personally don't have enough experience in using these, but other Jyotishi would possibly use and evaluate from this as well. In general we can take a look at what's going on with celebrities in Hollywood as stars/actors are expressed by Leo. News in the US is full of this right now and what atonements are taking place in general within that group/community. If we specifically take Brittany Spears, she isn't 'getting it' and Saturn is not allowing this, she's being brought to the carpet, so to speak. Her children have been removed, she is court ordered to have drug/alcohol tests, etc. From Brittany's perspective, this could be a bad time, bad transit, but in reality (which is what Saturn demands us to look at) this transit will work for her benefit definitely in the end and demands that she take more responsibility. However, it appears this is being experienced as a bad time by her, and these lessons appear to be difficult for her. Another thing we could consider are the fires in southern California and elsewhere. With Ketu and Saturn in Leo and the dignity of the Sun, and then consider especially the nakshatras involved in this transit. My book lists Cancer as significator for southern California. From what you've written to Surya Prakash, it appears you may be viewing this from a Taurus ascendant. It's helpful to know which houses the constellations are in, and much more so to have the full chart. Generalizations cannot be specific - and only these generalizations can be given without more information. Looking generally then from a Taurus ascendant this transit of Saturn is in the 4H, and you've mentioned Moon in 12H from there in Cancer. This transit then would have its effects more strongly associated with 4H matters, mother, home, emotions, close friends, comforts, confidence or happiness. Perhaps also/or property, vehicles, etc.. With Moon natally in the 12H from this and Moon as natural karaka for 4H, this is also highlighted then at this time. Relationship with mother may be maturing and native experiencing a change in this relationship. Also perhaps change of home, or leaving the area, moving to a different area. Taurus ascendant also then has a 10H aspect of Saturn on the 1H. I hope this is helpful. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ Dear Bhaskar, Would like to be elaborated on how we could define benefic transit. Taking the same example say Saturn getting into Leo we can say it is entering into an enemy sign, however it has a 7th drishti on Aquarius its own sign.Also its 3rd drishti will be on Libra,the sign of exaltation. Best Regards Nilesh ____________________________ Dear Surya Prakash, Lets consider that Leo is the 4th house or the Ascendant is Taurus.Say moon is in Cancer. 4 .. <http://geo.. <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=14388628/grpspId=1705082690/msgI > com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=14388628/grpspId=1705082690/msgI > com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=14388628/grpspId=1705082690/msgI d=7165/stime=1194154301/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848641/nc3=3848585> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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