Fw: rao sir different systems of astrology

[Guest guest]

Rao sir, this is cheating, u started the debate by saying that

lalkitab was written after death of pt. roop chand joshi.

it was dr. aggarwal who attempted to check your knowledge about

traditional astrology but stopped on my request. it is on record.

i am no no novice to krishnamurthy padhiti, i can show you

documentary evidence where predictions of krishnamurthy ji failed.

it is a lalkitab group but if the moderator allows , i am ready for

a debare on kp system also.

what i wanted to convey was that when u don't know anything about

lalkitab system why are u condemning it. i don't like kp system but

idon't maligne it.

i know u are a gentle/pious soul. i know u are disturbed at

atrocious claims of some lalkitab specialists. let them follow their

path.

if u want to help me sincerely then show me some way, give me some

tips by which i can increase m,y pragya.

i really respect experienced people u represent planet jupiter for

me, pleasae be my guide. and please don't abuse the lalkitab system

as whole for wrongdoings of some.

it is the astrologer who is wrong, astrology is never wrong.

please don't have any hard feelings.

kshmaprarthi

kulbirbance

 

lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir,

> I totally agree with you...Kulbir every one KNOWS

that I

> specialise only in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,but you keep asking me

> questions on Traditional Astrology...

> Tell me Kulbir...how more BLIND AND DEAF and

ILLITERATE

> CAN ANY ONE BE ?

> L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> > I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a great

> patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep your

extra

> batteries of patience on and charged.

> > Sincerely,

> > Dharmender

> >

> >

> > kulbirbance

> > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM

> > lalkitab

> > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job

> >

> >

> > rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who is

> > reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers given

in

> > response to ur questions.

> > sincerely

> > kulbirbance

> >

> > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> > <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like

> > you

> > > all to be amenable to REASON...?

> > > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived

> > for

> > > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such

dogmas

> > and

> > > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen...

> > > Ponder over it...

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > I have not,do not and never did insist that

> > you

> > > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you

> choose

> > to

> > > > live steeped in ignorance...

> > > > May God bless you...and let better sense

> > > prevail...

> > > > Ignorance is BLISS... !

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rao Sahib,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an

agenda

> > and

> > > it

> > > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such

anti

> > > feeling

> > > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right

> > frame,

> > > we

> > > > will take it up again.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense

> and

> > a

> > > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab

> > > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of

L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06

> > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change

in

> Job

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two

> > > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! !

> > > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab

> > > > > Members'concerted effort all this while...

> > > > > How then are uall different than crooked and

> > > > > scheming confidence tricksters ?

> > > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things,

> > > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question...

> > > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...?

> > > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT

> > > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ?

> > > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT

> > > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO

INVESTIGATE

> > > > > THOROUGHLY...

> > > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE

> > > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN...

> > > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY

> > > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND

> > THRIVING

> > > ON

> > > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET

AL...

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See below

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab

> > > <lalkitab%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > [lalkitab

> > > <lalkitab%

> > > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao

> > > > > Lajmi

> > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53

> > > > > > Rajnikhan

> > > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in

Job

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is

> > > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-

astrologer-

> > > > gemdealer

> > > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know

of

> > many

> > > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor

> > gullible

> > > > and

> > > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear

> from

> > > you

> > > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for

> solutions?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore

> > > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the

famous

> > > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai

> > > Baba,on

> > > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers

is

> > so

> > > > great

> > > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While I was in Sydney

> > > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how

a

> > > > disciple

> > > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya

Sai

> > > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was

even

> > > > telecast

> > > > > on Aussie TV...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few

> > years.

> > > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimhaââ,¬â " ¢s rule,

Door

> > > > Darshan had

> > > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been

> > > buried.

> > > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba ââ,¬ "

> > Google

> > > it

> > > > and

> > > > > you shall find many sites on it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A Tantric was also

> > > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire

episode

> > was

> > > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-

> > called

> > > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the

> > > challenge

> > > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had

a

> > > chance

> > > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly,

> > laughable

> > > > what

> > > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devilââ,¬â " ¢s

advocate,

> > what

> > > > are the

> > > > > credentials of the Tantric ââ,¬ " may be the rationalist

> > > > association

> > > > > chose him because of his stupidity.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish that this

> > > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab

> > MYTH...it

> > > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all

of

> > us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our Indian people need

> > > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But,sadly, I found it

> > > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals

in

> > our

> > > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of

> the

> > > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the

> > > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not

only

> > > that

> > > > > promoting such activity...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Arenââ,¬â " ¢t politicians or bureaucrats or the local

> goonda

> > > > doing the

> > > > > same or the priests?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope that the Rajni

> > > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of

> > exploitation

> > > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins

in

> > your

> > > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for,

to

> > the

> > > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you

> will

> > > all

> > > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You

ALL...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pl. do not give in to

> > > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May better sense

> > > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your prayers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> > > > > > <%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM

> > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Jagannathan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up

> > > > > on " Change in Job " ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any

> > > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas

> > > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories "

> > > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement

> that " Nobody,not

> > > even

> > > > > Bramha can change one's destiny...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) In my considered

> > > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are

only

> > > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the

> > > astrologer-

> > > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in

Hindu

> > > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less

> > > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-

> folk...or

> > > > having

> > > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in

Modern

> > > times

> > > > in

> > > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological

> > support

> > > > > from these...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in

> > > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being

> bandied

> > > > about

> > > > > in this column...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over

> > > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC

HOUSES

> or

> > > the

> > > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make

it

> > less

> > > > > malefic(??),etcetera...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your

> > > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing

> > > of " the

> > > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for

the

> > use

> > > of

> > > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > <%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM

> > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be

fulfilled.The

> > > > reasons

> > > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the

> > RajaYoga

> > > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi

> > Pariharas

> > > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp

to

> > > > Bhadra

> > > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to

> one

> > or

> > > > two

> > > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to

> > nine

> > > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do

> Archana

> > to

> > > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani

> bhagavan

> > on

> > > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wish you all the best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jagannathan. .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> <sankaranj@>

> > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he

can

> > > change

> > > > > his current job.

> > > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this

> > > > prediction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981.

> > > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam

> > > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Regards,

> > > > > > Shankar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir,

I have NOT said what you are imputing...A member of your

L.K.site said that some of his disciples made notes whenever they had

discussions with him...and a collection of these notes went to make

the first book on L.K.

Surely,Kulbir this is sure proof that you are only raving

because you are hit at your soft-spot...

Why don't you discuss this with Raj and other experts on

L.K.

It appears that there is NO CONSENSUS amongst yourselves

in the first place...how do you explain 5 to 6 different versions of

L.K., each claiming to be authentic,like you also claim...for all you

know your version could well be a fake... !

Please STOP RAVING about L.K. as if you are a self-

appointed authority on L.K.

L.Y.Rao.

>

> Rao sir, this is cheating, u started the debate by saying that

> lalkitab was written after death of pt. roop chand joshi.

> it was dr. aggarwal who attempted to check your knowledge about

> traditional astrology but stopped on my request. it is on record.

> i am no no novice to krishnamurthy padhiti, i can show you

> documentary evidence where predictions of krishnamurthy ji failed.

> it is a lalkitab group but if the moderator allows , i am ready

for

> a debare on kp system also.

> what i wanted to convey was that when u don't know anything about

> lalkitab system why are u condemning it. i don't like kp system but

> idon't maligne it.

> i know u are a gentle/pious soul. i know u are disturbed at

> atrocious claims of some lalkitab specialists. let them follow

their

> path.

> if u want to help me sincerely then show me some way, give me some

> tips by which i can increase m,y pragya.

> i really respect experienced people u represent planet jupiter for

> me, pleasae be my guide. and please don't abuse the lalkitab system

> as whole for wrongdoings of some.

> it is the astrologer who is wrong, astrology is never wrong.

> please don't have any hard feelings.

> kshmaprarthi

> kulbirbance

>

> lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir,

> > I totally agree with you...Kulbir every one KNOWS

> that I

> > specialise only in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,but you keep asking me

> > questions on Traditional Astrology...

> > Tell me Kulbir...how more BLIND AND DEAF and

> ILLITERATE

> > CAN ANY ONE BE ?

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> > > I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a great

> > patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep your

> extra

> > batteries of patience on and charged.

> > > Sincerely,

> > > Dharmender

> > >

> > >

> > > kulbirbance

> > > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM

> > > lalkitab

> > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job

> > >

> > >

> > > rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who is

> > > reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers

given

> in

> > > response to ur questions.

> > > sincerely

> > > kulbirbance

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> > > <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like

> > > you

> > > > all to be amenable to REASON...?

> > > > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived

> > > for

> > > > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such

> dogmas

> > > and

> > > > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen...

> > > > Ponder over it...

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > I have not,do not and never did insist that

> > > you

> > > > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you

> > choose

> > > to

> > > > > live steeped in ignorance...

> > > > > May God bless you...and let better sense

> > > > prevail...

> > > > > Ignorance is BLISS... !

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rao Sahib,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an

> agenda

> > > and

> > > > it

> > > > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such

> anti

> > > > feeling

> > > > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right

> > > frame,

> > > > we

> > > > > will take it up again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have

sense

> > and

> > > a

> > > > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of

> L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06

> > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change

> in

> > Job

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two

> > > > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! !

> > > > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab

> > > > > > Members'concerted effort all this while...

> > > > > > How then are uall different than crooked and

> > > > > > scheming confidence tricksters ?

> > > > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things,

> > > > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question...

> > > > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...?

> > > > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT

> > > > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ?

> > > > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT

> > > > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO

> INVESTIGATE

> > > > > > THOROUGHLY...

> > > > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE

> > > > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN...

> > > > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY

> > > > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND

> > > THRIVING

> > > > ON

> > > > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET

> AL...

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > See below

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > [lalkitab

> > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao

> > > > > > Lajmi

> > > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53

> > > > > > > Rajnikhan

> > > > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in

> Job

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is

> > > > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-

> astrologer-

> > > > > gemdealer

> > > > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know

> of

> > > many

> > > > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor

> > > gullible

> > > > > and

> > > > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear

> > from

> > > > you

> > > > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for

> > solutions?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore

> > > > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the

> famous

> > > > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya

Sai

> > > > Baba,on

> > > > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers

> is

> > > so

> > > > > great

> > > > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While I was in Sydney

> > > > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how

> a

> > > > > disciple

> > > > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya

> Sai

> > > > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was

> even

> > > > > telecast

> > > > > > on Aussie TV...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few

> > > years.

> > > > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimhaââ,¬â " ¢s rule,

> Door

> > > > > Darshan had

> > > > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had

been

> > > > buried.

> > > > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba ââ,¬ "

> > > Google

> > > > it

> > > > > and

> > > > > > you shall find many sites on it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A Tantric was also

> > > > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire

> episode

> > > was

> > > > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-

> > > called

> > > > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the

> > > > challenge

> > > > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I

had

> a

> > > > chance

> > > > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly,

> > > laughable

> > > > > what

> > > > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devilââ,¬â " ¢s

> advocate,

> > > what

> > > > > are the

> > > > > > credentials of the Tantric ââ,¬ " may be the rationalist

> > > > > association

> > > > > > chose him because of his stupidity.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wish that this

> > > > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab

> > > MYTH...it

> > > > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all

> of

> > > us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Our Indian people need

> > > > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it

> > > > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals

> in

> > > our

> > > > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation

of

> > the

> > > > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the

> > > > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not

> only

> > > > that

> > > > > > promoting such activity...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Arenââ,¬â " ¢t politicians or bureaucrats or the local

> > goonda

> > > > > doing the

> > > > > > same or the priests?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni

> > > > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of

> > > exploitation

> > > > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins

> in

> > > your

> > > > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for,

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you

> > will

> > > > all

> > > > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You

> ALL...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to

> > > > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > May better sense

> > > > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> > > > > > > <%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up

> > > > > > on " Change in Job " ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any

> > > > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas

> > > > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories "

> > > > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement

> > that " Nobody,not

> > > > even

> > > > > > Bramha can change one's destiny...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) In my considered

> > > > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are

> only

> > > > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the

> > > > astrologer-

> > > > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in

> Hindu

> > > > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less

> > > > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-

> > folk...or

> > > > > having

> > > > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in

> Modern

> > > > times

> > > > > in

> > > > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological

> > > support

> > > > > > from these...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in

> > > > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being

> > bandied

> > > > > about

> > > > > > in this column...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over

> > > > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC

> HOUSES

> > or

> > > > the

> > > > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make

> it

> > > less

> > > > > > malefic(??),etcetera...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your

> > > > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas

wearing

> > > > of " the

> > > > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for

> the

> > > use

> > > > of

> > > > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > <%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be

> fulfilled.The

> > > > > reasons

> > > > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the

> > > RajaYoga

> > > > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi

> > > Pariharas

> > > > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil

lamp

> to

> > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding

to

> > one

> > > or

> > > > > two

> > > > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil

to

> > > nine

> > > > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do

> > Archana

> > > to

> > > > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani

> > bhagavan

> > > on

> > > > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wish you all the best,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jagannathan. .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > <sankaranj@>

> > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he

> can

> > > > change

> > > > > > his current job.

> > > > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this

> > > > > prediction.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981.

> > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam

> > > > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Regards,

> > > > > > > Shankar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India.

> > > > > >

> > >

<http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./?

> > > > > > wm=n/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

<http://in.rd./tagline_mail_2/*http:/help./l/in/yah

> > > o

> > > > > > o/mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> it now

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rao sir, there is no confusion on the account that 5 volume/editions

of lalkitab were published in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942 and finally

1952 respectively. how many times have i to tell u the same thing

again and again. Raj ji and all other students and experts are

unanimous on this issue. when there is absolute consensus, then why

should i discuss it with Raj ji. Raj ji has translated lalkitab into

english from urdu and that too beautifully with his own

clarifications etc, that's all.Finally Rao sahib this is my last

mail to you, i can't bear it any longer.

thanks for ur blessings that u showered on me time and again but

after reading this message, i think i should quit.

jis afsane ko anjaam dena ho mushkil; oose ik khoobsoorat mod dekar

schod dena acha.

adieu

kulbirbance

 

lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

<lyrastro1 wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir,

> I have NOT said what you are imputing...A member of

your

> L.K.site said that some of his disciples made notes whenever they

had

> discussions with him...and a collection of these notes went to

make

> the first book on L.K.

> Surely,Kulbir this is sure proof that you are only

raving

> because you are hit at your soft-spot...

> Why don't you discuss this with Raj and other experts

on

> L.K.

> It appears that there is NO CONSENSUS amongst

yourselves

> in the first place...how do you explain 5 to 6 different versions

of

> L.K., each claiming to be authentic,like you also claim...for all

you

> know your version could well be a fake... !

> Please STOP RAVING about L.K. as if you are a self-

> appointed authority on L.K.

> L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > Rao sir, this is cheating, u started the debate by saying that

> > lalkitab was written after death of pt. roop chand joshi.

> > it was dr. aggarwal who attempted to check your knowledge about

> > traditional astrology but stopped on my request. it is on record.

> > i am no no novice to krishnamurthy padhiti, i can show you

> > documentary evidence where predictions of krishnamurthy ji

failed.

> > it is a lalkitab group but if the moderator allows , i am ready

> for

> > a debare on kp system also.

> > what i wanted to convey was that when u don't know anything

about

> > lalkitab system why are u condemning it. i don't like kp system

but

> > idon't maligne it.

> > i know u are a gentle/pious soul. i know u are disturbed at

> > atrocious claims of some lalkitab specialists. let them follow

> their

> > path.

> > if u want to help me sincerely then show me some way, give me

some

> > tips by which i can increase m,y pragya.

> > i really respect experienced people u represent planet jupiter

for

> > me, pleasae be my guide. and please don't abuse the lalkitab

system

> > as whole for wrongdoings of some.

> > it is the astrologer who is wrong, astrology is never wrong.

> > please don't have any hard feelings.

> > kshmaprarthi

> > kulbirbance

> >

> > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

<lyrastro1@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir,

> > > I totally agree with you...Kulbir every one KNOWS

> > that I

> > > specialise only in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,but you keep asking

me

> > > questions on Traditional Astrology...

> > > Tell me Kulbir...how more BLIND AND DEAF and

> > ILLITERATE

> > > CAN ANY ONE BE ?

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> > > > I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a

great

> > > patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep your

> > extra

> > > batteries of patience on and charged.

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > Dharmender

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM

> > > > lalkitab

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in

Job

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who

is

> > > > reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers

> given

> > in

> > > > response to ur questions.

> > > > sincerely

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> > > > <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like

> > > > you

> > > > > all to be amenable to REASON...?

> > > > > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived

> > > > for

> > > > > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such

> > dogmas

> > > > and

> > > > > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen...

> > > > > Ponder over it...

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > I have not,do not and never did insist that

> > > > you

> > > > > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if

you

> > > choose

> > > > to

> > > > > > live steeped in ignorance...

> > > > > > May God bless you...and let better sense

> > > > > prevail...

> > > > > > Ignorance is BLISS... !

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rao Sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an

> > agenda

> > > > and

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such

> > anti

> > > > > feeling

> > > > > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the

right

> > > > frame,

> > > > > we

> > > > > > will take it up again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have

> sense

> > > and

> > > > a

> > > > > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06

> > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw:

Change

> > in

> > > Job

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two

> > > > > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! !

> > > > > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab

> > > > > > > Members'concerted effort all this while...

> > > > > > > How then are uall different than crooked and

> > > > > > > scheming confidence tricksters ?

> > > > > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things,

> > > > > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question...

> > > > > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...?

> > > > > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT

> > > > > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ?

> > > > > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT

> > > > > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO

> > INVESTIGATE

> > > > > > > THOROUGHLY...

> > > > > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE

> > > > > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN...

> > > > > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY

> > > > > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY

AND

> > > > THRIVING

> > > > > ON

> > > > > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS

ET

> > AL...

> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > See below

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > [lalkitab

> > > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao

> > > > > > > Lajmi

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53

> > > > > > > > Rajnikhan

> > > > > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change

in

> > Job

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is

> > > > > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-

> > astrologer-

> > > > > > gemdealer

> > > > > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I

know

> > of

> > > > many

> > > > > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the

poor

> > > > gullible

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to

hear

> > > from

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for

> > > solutions?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore

> > > > > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the

> > famous

> > > > > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya

> Sai

> > > > > Baba,on

> > > > > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his

followers

> > is

> > > > so

> > > > > > great

> > > > > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the

Scientists...!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While I was in Sydney

> > > > > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing

how

> > a

> > > > > > disciple

> > > > > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great

Satya

> > Sai

> > > > > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was

> > even

> > > > > > telecast

> > > > > > > on Aussie TV...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been

few

> > > > years.

> > > > > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimhaââ,¬â " ¢s

rule,

> > Door

> > > > > > Darshan had

> > > > > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had

> been

> > > > > buried.

> > > > > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba â

â,¬ "

> > > > Google

> > > > > it

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > you shall find many sites on it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A Tantric was also

> > > > > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire

> > episode

> > > > was

> > > > > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the

so-

> > > > called

> > > > > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted

the

> > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever

since...! !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I

> had

> > a

> > > > > chance

> > > > > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly,

> > > > laughable

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devilââ,¬â " ¢s

> > advocate,

> > > > what

> > > > > > are the

> > > > > > > credentials of the Tantric ââ,¬ " may be the

rationalist

> > > > > > association

> > > > > > > chose him because of his stupidity.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I wish that this

> > > > > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab

> > > > MYTH...it

> > > > > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to

all

> > of

> > > > us.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Our Indian people need

> > > > > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it

> > > > > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do

intellectuals

> > in

> > > > our

> > > > > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of

exploitation

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the

> > > > > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and

not

> > only

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > promoting such activity...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Arenââ,¬â " ¢t politicians or bureaucrats or the

local

> > > goonda

> > > > > > doing the

> > > > > > > same or the priests?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni

> > > > > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of

> > > > exploitation

> > > > > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating

sins

> > in

> > > > your

> > > > > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account

for,

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help,

you

> > > will

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On

You

> > ALL...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to

> > > > > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > May better sense

> > > > > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up

> > > > > > > on " Change in Job " ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any

> > > > > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas

> > > > > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories "

> > > > > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement

> > > that " Nobody,not

> > > > > even

> > > > > > > Bramha can change one's destiny...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4) In my considered

> > > > > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc.,

are

> > only

> > > > > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by

the

> > > > > astrologer-

> > > > > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in

> > Hindu

> > > > > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less

> > > > > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-

> > > folk...or

> > > > > > having

> > > > > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in

> > Modern

> > > > > times

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great

psychological

> > > > support

> > > > > > > from these...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in

> > > > > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being

> > > bandied

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > in this column...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over

> > > > > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC

> > HOUSES

> > > or

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to

make

> > it

> > > > less

> > > > > > > malefic(??),etcetera...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your

> > > > > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas

> wearing

> > > > > of " the

> > > > > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification

for

> > the

> > > > use

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be

> > fulfilled.The

> > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and

the

> > > > RajaYoga

> > > > > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some

Shanthi

> > > > Pariharas

> > > > > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil

> lamp

> > to

> > > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor

feeding

> to

> > > one

> > > > or

> > > > > > two

> > > > > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of

oil

> to

> > > > nine

> > > > > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do

> > > Archana

> > > > to

> > > > > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani

> > > bhagavan

> > > > on

> > > > > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wish you all the best,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jagannathan. .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > <sankaranj@>

> > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when

he

> > can

> > > > > change

> > > > > > > his current job.

> > > > > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for

this

> > > > > > prediction.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981.

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam

> > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -Regards,

> > > > > > > > Shankar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. Click

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > wm=n/>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > o

> > > > > > > o/mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> it now

> > > > > > > >

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> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir,

I am sorry,you are quitting...

Any way,if at all you find the TRUTH pl. communicate to

me...in the meanwhile,wishing you the very best...

L.Y.Rao.

>

> Rao sir, there is no confusion on the account that 5

volume/editions

> of lalkitab were published in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942 and finally

> 1952 respectively. how many times have i to tell u the same thing

> again and again. Raj ji and all other students and experts are

> unanimous on this issue. when there is absolute consensus, then why

> should i discuss it with Raj ji. Raj ji has translated lalkitab

into

> english from urdu and that too beautifully with his own

> clarifications etc, that's all.Finally Rao sahib this is my last

> mail to you, i can't bear it any longer.

> thanks for ur blessings that u showered on me time and again but

> after reading this message, i think i should quit.

> jis afsane ko anjaam dena ho mushkil; oose ik khoobsoorat mod dekar

> schod dena acha.

> adieu

> kulbirbance

>

> lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir,

> > I have NOT said what you are imputing...A member of

> your

> > L.K.site said that some of his disciples made notes whenever they

> had

> > discussions with him...and a collection of these notes went to

> make

> > the first book on L.K.

> > Surely,Kulbir this is sure proof that you are only

> raving

> > because you are hit at your soft-spot...

> > Why don't you discuss this with Raj and other experts

> on

> > L.K.

> > It appears that there is NO CONSENSUS amongst

> yourselves

> > in the first place...how do you explain 5 to 6 different versions

> of

> > L.K., each claiming to be authentic,like you also claim...for all

> you

> > know your version could well be a fake... !

> > Please STOP RAVING about L.K. as if you are a self-

> > appointed authority on L.K.

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > Rao sir, this is cheating, u started the debate by saying that

> > > lalkitab was written after death of pt. roop chand joshi.

> > > it was dr. aggarwal who attempted to check your knowledge about

> > > traditional astrology but stopped on my request. it is on

record.

> > > i am no no novice to krishnamurthy padhiti, i can show you

> > > documentary evidence where predictions of krishnamurthy ji

> failed.

> > > it is a lalkitab group but if the moderator allows , i am

ready

> > for

> > > a debare on kp system also.

> > > what i wanted to convey was that when u don't know anything

> about

> > > lalkitab system why are u condemning it. i don't like kp system

> but

> > > idon't maligne it.

> > > i know u are a gentle/pious soul. i know u are disturbed at

> > > atrocious claims of some lalkitab specialists. let them follow

> > their

> > > path.

> > > if u want to help me sincerely then show me some way, give me

> some

> > > tips by which i can increase m,y pragya.

> > > i really respect experienced people u represent planet jupiter

> for

> > > me, pleasae be my guide. and please don't abuse the lalkitab

> system

> > > as whole for wrongdoings of some.

> > > it is the astrologer who is wrong, astrology is never wrong.

> > > please don't have any hard feelings.

> > > kshmaprarthi

> > > kulbirbance

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> <lyrastro1@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir,

> > > > I totally agree with you...Kulbir every one

KNOWS

> > > that I

> > > > specialise only in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,but you keep

asking

> me

> > > > questions on Traditional Astrology...

> > > > Tell me Kulbir...how more BLIND AND DEAF and

> > > ILLITERATE

> > > > CAN ANY ONE BE ?

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> > > > > I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a

> great

> > > > patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep

your

> > > extra

> > > > batteries of patience on and charged.

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > Dharmender

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM

> > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in

> Job

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who

> is

> > > > > reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers

> > given

> > > in

> > > > > response to ur questions.

> > > > > sincerely

> > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> > > > > <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like

> > > > > you

> > > > > > all to be amenable to REASON...?

> > > > > > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived

> > > > > for

> > > > > > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such

> > > dogmas

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen...

> > > > > > Ponder over it...

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > > I have not,do not and never did insist that

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if

> you

> > > > choose

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > live steeped in ignorance...

> > > > > > > May God bless you...and let better sense

> > > > > > prevail...

> > > > > > > Ignorance is BLISS... !

> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rao Sahib,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an

> > > agenda

> > > > > and

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake.

Such

> > > anti

> > > > > > feeling

> > > > > > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the

> right

> > > > > frame,

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > will take it up again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have

> > sense

> > > > and

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw:

> Change

> > > in

> > > > Job

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,

> > > > > > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two

> > > > > > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! !

> > > > > > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab

> > > > > > > > Members'concerted effort all this while...

> > > > > > > > How then are uall different than crooked and

> > > > > > > > scheming confidence tricksters ?

> > > > > > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things,

> > > > > > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question...

> > > > > > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...?

> > > > > > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT

> > > > > > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ?

> > > > > > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT

> > > > > > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO

> > > INVESTIGATE

> > > > > > > > THOROUGHLY...

> > > > > > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE

> > > > > > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN...

> > > > > > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY

> > > > > > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY

> AND

> > > > > THRIVING

> > > > > > ON

> > > > > > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS

> ET

> > > AL...

> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > See below

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab

> > > > > > <lalkitab%

> > > > > > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao

> > > > > > > > Lajmi

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53

> > > > > > > > > Rajnikhan

> > > > > > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh

> > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Fw:

Change

> in

> > > Job

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is

> > > > > > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-

> > > astrologer-

> > > > > > > gemdealer

> > > > > > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I

> know

> > > of

> > > > > many

> > > > > > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the

> poor

> > > > > gullible

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to

> hear

> > > > from

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for

> > > > solutions?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore

> > > > > > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by

the

> > > famous

> > > > > > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of

Satya

> > Sai

> > > > > > Baba,on

> > > > > > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his

> followers

> > > is

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the

> Scientists...!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While I was in Sydney

> > > > > > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing

> how

> > > a

> > > > > > > disciple

> > > > > > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great

> Satya

> > > Sai

> > > > > > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it

was

> > > even

> > > > > > > telecast

> > > > > > > > on Aussie TV...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been

> few

> > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimhaââ,¬â " ¢s

> rule,

> > > Door

> > > > > > > Darshan had

> > > > > > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had

> > been

> > > > > > buried.

> > > > > > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba â

> â,¬ "

> > > > > Google

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > you shall find many sites on it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also

> > > > > > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire

> > > episode

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the

> so-

> > > > > called

> > > > > > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted

> the

> > > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever

> since...! !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then

I

> > had

> > > a

> > > > > > chance

> > > > > > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly,

> > > > > laughable

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devilââ,¬â " ¢s

> > > advocate,

> > > > > what

> > > > > > > are the

> > > > > > > > credentials of the Tantric ââ,¬ " may be the

> rationalist

> > > > > > > association

> > > > > > > > chose him because of his stupidity.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wish that this

> > > > > > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal

Kitab

> > > > > MYTH...it

> > > > > > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to

> all

> > > of

> > > > > us.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need

> > > > > > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it

> > > > > > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do

> intellectuals

> > > in

> > > > > our

> > > > > > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of

> exploitation

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for

the

> > > > > > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and

> not

> > > only

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > promoting such activity...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Arenââ,¬â " ¢t politicians or bureaucrats or the

> local

> > > > goonda

> > > > > > > doing the

> > > > > > > > same or the priests?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni

> > > > > > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of

> > > > > exploitation

> > > > > > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating

> sins

> > > in

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account

> for,

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help,

> you

> > > > will

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On

> You

> > > ALL...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to

> > > > > > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > May better sense

> > > > > > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> > > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up

> > > > > > > > on " Change in Job " ...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any

> > > > > > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas

> > > > > > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories "

> > > > > > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement

> > > > that " Nobody,not

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > Bramha can change one's destiny...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) In my considered

> > > > > > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc.,

> are

> > > only

> > > > > > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by

> the

> > > > > > astrologer-

> > > > > > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in

> > > Hindu

> > > > > > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less

> > > > > > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-

> > > > folk...or

> > > > > > > having

> > > > > > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in

> > > Modern

> > > > > > times

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great

> psychological

> > > > > support

> > > > > > > > from these...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in

> > > > > > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are

being

> > > > bandied

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > in this column...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over

> > > > > > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC

> > > HOUSES

> > > > or

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to

> make

> > > it

> > > > > less

> > > > > > > > malefic(??),etcetera...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your

> > > > > > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas

> > wearing

> > > > > > of " the

> > > > > > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification

> for

> > > the

> > > > > use

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>

> > > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Change in Job

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be

> > > fulfilled.The

> > > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and

> the

> > > > > RajaYoga

> > > > > > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some

> Shanthi

> > > > > Pariharas

> > > > > > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil

> > lamp

> > > to

> > > > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor

> feeding

> > to

> > > > one

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of

> oil

> > to

> > > > > nine

> > > > > > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to

do

> > > > Archana

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani

> > > > bhagavan

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wish you all the best,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jagannathan. .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > <sankaranj@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when

> he

> > > can

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > his current job.

> > > > > > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for

> this

> > > > > > > prediction.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981.

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam

> > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Shankar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. Click

> here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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