Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Dear Sripathi, As a general rule, lagna lord becomes auspicious for a chart; that his position in the most powerful angle would prove to be good. What could be the indications? The individual would become widely known and famous. He gets paternal happiness. The government would honor him. He prospers in his pursuits. Another indication of this placement is " self-earnings " . Now his status is exalted. Obviously, the significations are going to be manifest strongly and favorably. This is purely a theoretical situation. What happens in actual application? Your preliminary question and the application of this simple principle in a chart gives sleepless nights for a sincere student of astrology. Why? The actual results depend on number of other factors. What is the lagna? Whether it is movable or fixed or common? The different lagna lords, based on the above category of signs, in 10th house going to give different results. Whether this lagna lord is a natural malefic or a benefic? Saturn is a natural malefic first, his exalted status in a Kendra is not a desirable one in regard to health during the sub-period of a malefic and the transits are adverse, if the other factors in regard to health are not strong in a chart. Certain other factors, which are to be considered in this regard, are: What is the other lordship for lagna lord? What is the condition of the dispositor? Merely the lagna lord exalted in 10th house is not going to help. Who are all influencing him? What are the conjunctions? In which constellation he is placed? What is the relationship in the instant chart between the constellation lord and the lagna lord? One of my observations is that the lagna lord placed in a constellation of a benefic (natural) planet shows a self- made man. A planet placed in a house is going to influence his opposite house. Hence he is bound to give the results towards that house also besides his placement. In the case of Saturn, he is going to influence two more houses too. After all, any result is going to manifest only during the dasha of a planet concerned, so the dasha scheme is also going to play its own role. At what age the individual enjoys the maha dasha of that exalted lord in the 10th house. No planet is absolutely good or absolutely bad in a chart. So far as the Taurus lagna is concerned, Saturn rules not only the trinal 9th but also the angular 10th. He is a powerful Raja yoga karaka for this lagna because the 9th house is the strongest trine, and the 10th house is a strongest angle. Hope this helps you to some extent. Swamy. *** Respected Members, I have a few queries regarding exalted lagna lord in Karma. May bevery preliminary, but would greatly assist me in my learning. Would an exalted Saturn behave in distinct (opposite may be!) ways for a Capricorn and Aquarius ascendant, since they are the negative and positive signs of Saturn?It is said that the lagna lord sort of robs off the goodness of the house where he is posited, for self. Therefore in the above case would it mean for a Capricorn Asc(where Saturn is exalted in 10th, Karma), the natives deeds would be for own benefit? Would Saturn still be considered harmful in the event he is a yogakarak (Eg. Taurus ascendant) Best Regards, Sripathi*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Respected Wendy Mam and Sri Sripati, I do have a doubt and not clear as per the BPHS, Lagna lord is single handedly capabale of warding or devoding ill effects on the native this is i am convinced, ofcourse we need see the placement/aspect/avasta and constillation of the Lagna Lord BUT for Taurus Ascendant how Venus becomes a Malific? 3-24. FOR TAURUS ASCENDANT: Jupiter, Venus, and the Moon are malefics. All your inputs helps me to a great extent to learn.. Regards jyotish-vidya , Sreepathi Tantri K <mailsreeps wrote: > > Respected Mam, > > Thanks for your valuable inputs. Now it really makes > sense to me abt the positiveness and negativeness of > each sign!. And as to why a moolatrikona is considered > stronger than swakshetra and exaltation. > > Going by what you mentioned, for my understanding, Has > Saturn been termed neutral here ( For Capricorn Asc > )since he is also the lord of 2nd (Marakasthana) and > that the lagna lord cannot be bad (I mean as in a > killer!)? > > With reference to chapter 34 of BPHS; > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch34.htm > Each ascendant has a killer(Maraka). In most cases > they are the lords of the 2nd. BPHS mentions Thanu > Bhava and kalathra bhava to indicate death. But then > why would Mars be a killer for Taurus Asc if this rule > holds? Should not the 12th house be taken since it > indicates one's own death.? > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sripathi and Swamy, > > > > Hopefully you won't mind if I add a little here :-) > > > > //Would a exalted Saturn behave in distinct(opposite > > may be!) ways for a > > Capricorn and Aquarius ascendant, since they are the > > negative and > > positive signs of Saturn?// > > > > As per Parashara, Saturn is classed as neutral for > > Capricorn lagna...neither > > very favourable nor very adverse. This is due to > > Saturn's (moolatrikona) > > lordship of 2nd house. Parashara states that, for > > Capricorn, Saturn will not > > be a killer of his own but can reveal killing powers > > if he joins other > > functional malefics (Jupiter, Mars or Moon). In > > broader terms this can > > simply indicate difficulties generally. > > > > For Aquarius, Saturn is classed as auspicious due to > > his (moolatrikona) > > lordship of lagna... > > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch34.htm > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > jyotish-vidya > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Yes, he is not termed by the sage Parashara that Saturn is a killer and acquiring the maraka powers on his own as he rules the 2nd in case of Capricorn. This toning down of effects could very well be presumed due to its auspiciousness as the lagna lord. Whereas the Sage instructs us clearly that the lagna lord, Saturn, as benefic, in the case of Aquarius, since it rules the neutral lordship of 12th house and simultaneously ruling the auspicious trine, the lagna. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 - Hi, you have raised very interesting questions , especially the exalted lagna lord in Karmasthana. This kind of placement is possible only in the case of Aries or Capricorn lagna. So if you consider the Aries lagna, it is Mars which would be placed in 10th in an exalted position. If Capricorn lagna, then it is Saturn placed in Libra in 10th house. It would be interesting to take up some charts to study this kind of placement and how it affects the indications of the 10th house. Do you have any charts in your database? Best wishes, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " mailsreeps " <mailsreeps wrote: > > Respected Members, > > I have a few queries regarding exalted lagna lord in Karma. May be > very preliminary, but would greatly assist me in my learning. > > Would a exalted Saturn behave in distinct(opposite may be!) ways for a > Capricorn and Aquarius ascendant, since they are the negative and > positive signs of Saturn? > > It is said that the lagna lord sort of robs off the goodness of the > house where he is posited, for self. Therefore in the above case would > it mean for a Capricorn Asc(where Saturn is exalted in 10th, Karma), > the natives deeds would be for own benefit? > > Would saturn still be considered harmful in the event he is a > yogakarak(Eg. Taurus ascendant) > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 - Dear Wendy, Just had a quick look at the chart of Shrila Prabhupada. I will try and look up details of his life on the net. Apart from other points, this chart throws up another potent point of astrology i.e. a planet exalted in rasi but debilitated in navamsa. What do you think of this aspect and how it affected the native? A very strong ninth house with the ninth and fifth lords(Venus is also a yogkaraka) associating in this , is a very strong indication of the spiritual life he led. Moreover Venus and mercury being the 9th and 10th lords also form a rajyoga. Will try and study this further and get back to it. Any other personalities with exalted lagna lord in the 10th house? All list members are welcome to contribute such charts. Best Wishes Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > //It would be interesting to take up some charts to study this kind of > placement and how it affects the indications of the 10th house. Do > you have any charts in your database?// > > Srila Prabhupada is one that immediately comes to mind... > > 1 Sep 1896 (16:00) > Calcutta > (Lagna: Capricorn 07:52:34) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " neenako " <neenako > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, May 14, 2007 11:47 PM > Re: Exalted lagna lord in Karma > > > - > Hi, > > you have raised very interesting questions , especially the exalted > lagna lord in Karmasthana. > > This kind of placement is possible only in the case of Aries or > Capricorn lagna. > > So if you consider the Aries lagna, it is Mars which would be placed > in 10th in an exalted position. > If Capricorn lagna, then it is Saturn placed in Libra in 10th house. > > It would be interesting to take up some charts to study this kind of > placement and how it affects the indications of the 10th house. Do > you have any charts in your database? > > Best wishes, > > Neena > > -- In jyotish-vidya , " mailsreeps " <mailsreeps@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Members, > > > > I have a few queries regarding exalted lagna lord in Karma. May be > > very preliminary, but would greatly assist me in my learning. > > > > Would a exalted Saturn behave in distinct(opposite may be!) ways > for a > > Capricorn and Aquarius ascendant, since they are the negative and > > positive signs of Saturn? > > > > It is said that the lagna lord sort of robs off the goodness of the > > house where he is posited, for self. Therefore in the above case > would > > it mean for a Capricorn Asc(where Saturn is exalted in 10th, Karma), > > the natives deeds would be for own benefit? > > > > Would saturn still be considered harmful in the event he is a > > yogakarak(Eg. Taurus ascendant) > > > > Best Regards, > > Sripathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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