Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Dear Ash, ///Ashtakavarga is also part and parcel of VA otherwise AV would not be mentioned by so many Maharishis./// Absolutely! I never meant to imply otherwise :-) ///I guess, its the understanding of the Full System is required to grasp these subtle difference and as u rightly said, this will take focussed study of a full system and that might take a life time./// This is it in a nutshell, isn't it! VA is so vast that to gain any kind of proficiency it's necessary (I believe) to focus at a particular point. I admit (readily) that my understanding of the ashtakavarga system is basic, at best. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:16 PM Re: Ashtakavarga System 25/6 Dear Wendy, Please dont offer any explanations, those that have known you over time will know that u do not mean to offend anyone so not to worry at all. I would like to clarify a couple of things if I may, my reply below yours with prefix of Ash. " > Ashtakavarga (also) is a unique system and incompatible, for instance, with > the planetary friendship scheme used with vimsottari. As an example, if we > look at pdk's chart, the upcoming transit of Saturn in Leo is considered > favourable as per ashtakavarga; However, Saturn is an enemy of Sun (who > occupies Leo in this instance)...can we reasonably conclude that this > transit will be favourable? ASH : In KAS, sign placements are considered, refer to lesson 26. However, as per KAS we distinguish timing of events from quality of events. So for timing of events, the sign placement are not required as we are able to get the power of planet i.e for all 7 planet and in all 12 houses and also in all 12 house and in all 16 D charts as well in a numerical format. Now Sign placement is used as per Lesson 26 the numerical multiplication factor is also given and that is used for quality. Just trying to site a hypothetical example. Lets assume one is trying to buy a house, and lets take the case u have put forward about Sun being in Capricorn. So lets say Leo is lagna and Sun is in 6th house in Capricorn. Now assume that this sun is very powerful to furnish the event as its LoD or say 10th lord from 4th so its eager to furnish TIMING of event. So the native can purchase a house in Sun antra so that ends the Timign of Event portion. Next is the Quality factor. Here lets say Sun has power of 20 in the KAS Worksheet and since Sun is in Capricorn the Multiplication Factor is 0.4 as its in enemy sign. So 20 * 0.4 = 8. So the quality of the event will be equated to 8. But the Event will happen but there might be some issues during purchasing it, since Sun in in 6th maybe there might be some additional work needed or lawyers or that land or house might be under dispute so more EFFORT will be required for success. Now that the contra of that. Had Sun been in Aries then the Multiplication Factor would be 1.4 so here 20 points would feel like 28 so the Property can be achieved with lesser effort. I guess, its the understanding of the Full System is required to grasp these subtle difference and as u rightly said, this will take focussed study of a full system and that might take a life time. Just so that you know, KAS portion thats taught in the full system is only dealing with timing of events. The other things like the own KAS House system, the Bhav Chalit, Nadis etc are also a part and parcel of KAS system. Then its application in Horary and Prashna, Vastu, Muharata etc is also there. > > It's my opinion that the vimsottari principles, based upon natural karakas, > planetary aspects, lordship, friendship scheme etc., are complete within > themselves and introducing other (often contradictory) techniques leads to > endless confusion. ASH : Ashtakavarga is also part and parcel of VA otherwise AV would not be mentioned by so many Maharishis. There is not much material out in the Standard Texts or Classics that are available and that being said the corruptions or improper translations have also crept in whats available as well, and to add to it, the Classics that are available are not complete. So that might be the reason that the application of Ashtakavarga and also due to its intense calculations, that its writeup might have evaporated from the classics. Similarly the same case with Nadi's. Not much text is available in the standard books on Nadis as well. Here I am talking of Nadi's that are used with Astrology. This knowledge was saved by some families such as Krushnaji's gurus. Even Bhava comment that Parasara has made and u alluded to BV Ramans comments, all such things are used aptly and each thing has its application as per KAS and that is going into the detail portion of the KAS system. That portion of the system is not taught as yet. So please do not be under any kind of mis-conception that sign or bhava or things like that are not used in Ashtakavarga system and here I am talking about KAS and not other developed systems on Ashtakavarga. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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