Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Respected bhaskar ji, I respect you, but it does not mean whatever comes on your mind you may type. you are not god and also you are not saint, you are simply astrologer, and in this forum there are so many better astrologers having space. I am not hurt, because you told me that I will have billions, but if you see my chart by cool and calm mind you can see my progress, I have started my job in 1990 by 1500 Rs and in 17 yrs when i left it was 24 lacs plus perks , you can see how many people are Group VP HR in age of 40 for (USD 7 BILLION) INR 25650 crore Group of companies in India. As you again and again did indirectly comment on me, yes I have taken loan from my friend, in humble words I use lines they feed me. it does not mean i have given up, as you use the language none of other astrologer uses this type of language, as we can talk about charts, I had seen your chart also, and I am very much sure i have 100 times better chart then yours. if do not belief Pls put your and mine chart and ask free report from learned astrologers of this forum. as you talk about divinity, so I do not want to discuss on this, i am still kid of almighty and still I feel I am very humble, typing or talking like this as you did you say you are blunt I feel it is totally nonsense, a astrologer must be mature like ocean, as madam wandy, vic ji, prashant ji, ramany ji, all of them did not talk like this, they always answer my questions, in very good mood, even i asked some childish questions also. As you are talking about knowledge of astrology, i read uncounted books, and shastras, but i never try them to understand my own horoscope, any time. kindly wait for time i will tell you, what happen in future, as u believe that whatever you predicted is the script of lord Brahma, but i know my self better, and i know what I can do. If I did not have any thing in me , I was not on this position today, I was worried because this gap period first time it was so long, which i never expect, and i have invested my savings in other things. and I do not have any problem in my life except this gap period in job. Sir I request you when ever you type or reply do not thing you are or you may be better then other one, i still have good brand name and position in HR network, i did not got the job because there are very less openings on top management level. kindly pardon me if i used some unwanted words. i seek help and guidance and the answers of my questions from other learned astrologers. i am very sorry moderator , but i am not use to listen this type of language. kind regards with due respect deepak sharma jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rajeev, > > You are a good soul, and I do agree to what > You have written, because I value the words > of Guru Paramhansa Yogananda. > The effects can be mitigated, but not by > ordinary souls.Lot of japa and tapa has to > go into deriving this. > > A person who has total disregards for anyones > efforts and help and is unsatisfied and yearning > for more and more, from all available sources, > would not be the proper subject as on today > (Maybe tomorrow ),to be expected to become the > quick swift favourite dog whom you mentioned. > A lady true to one man can only be,a favourite > to one. > > For a normal mortal who has not yet scaled > the depths of spiritualism , destiny just > cannot be changed, is what was taught to me > when i was learning the Nakshatra padhaty. > It can be altered, the effects if malefic can > be lessened but not totally removed from a > mans Life. > > Now what was not taught is - > A great amount of meditation, japa and tapa > can have the power to change a mans fate , but > how many can do such type of japa and tapa ? > We are normally dealing with most ordinary men > everyday who want to know more and more about > themselves,but wishing to give nothing in return. > > A man asks about his love life. > A man asks about his troubled marriage. > A man asks about when he is going to earn more money. > A man asks when he is going to buy a new house. > A man asks when he is going to feed his family himself > since he his family is being looked upon by his friends, > and he wishes to know when he will stand on his > own feet. Now when i tell him that he cannot earn Big money, > but susbsitence levels are easy to obtain in his > chart, then he comes out and tells me that his last > salary was Rs 24 lakhs per annum. > When he is asking us for our inputs, and when we give them > to him, he writes back to us mentioning and referring me > the shlokas and the text matter where this is cited. > I feel sad at such mails. Do You think that > these people need help ? No they can help themselves > better than we can help them. > > I need help on the contrary from such people, > as i could have spent time really on a poor > needy soul instead. > > Destiny can also be changed by ashirvaad and shraap , > means blessings and curses from saints or commoners . > > But for most of us ordinary folk, we are too much > happy in our comfortable beds and rooms, after > the days work, than rather be involved in the strict > rigours of discipline and norms, which are requisites > for one to change his destiny. > > Destiny cannot be changed for the 99.99% of > the people we are dealing with, in day to day. > Destiny may be possible to change for the > 0.001% but then indications would be there in > the chart about this. > > regards, > Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Madam > > > > Agree that there is destiny, but as I live and see destiny unfold > in my life > > and some more, > > I also see daily how it can be pushed a little here and little > there to > > drastically or completely change the outcome a few years down the > line. > > > > Saints and their lives are best left for another saint to decipher. > (no > > dis-regard implied) > > People dissect Shri Ram's and Shri Krishna's charts without even > stating > > once that their analysis is a small exercise in understanding great > > historical incarnations. Strange statements are made regarding Ram > and > > Krishna. > > > > > > A few lines to the non-astrologer: > > Every astrologer is human and nearly every astrologer suffers from > every > > human weakness. (again no dis-regard) > > So listen to them, think deeply to what they have to say, but then > dont > > forget to ask yourself. > > If astrology was meant to give full and final judgments, which > cannot be > > edited, then it would be better not having known it. > > > > Astrology is a part of vedas and vedas are knowledge for > upliftment, and > > that should be the goal and not just stating future events. The ole > story > > books are chocked full of examples of how destiny was changed by > someone by > > his actions. > > > > One example: > > One chart combination in America may mean " Sure Shot Divorce in 1 > month " , > > The same chart combination in India may mean " some conjugal discord > for 1 > > month " ... Why?!! > > > > Astrology depends upon a lot of ifs and buts and god willing a > tenacious > > person can insert a few more " ifs " to suit himself.!!!! > > > > A lot of examples can be presented for absolute determinism and > editable > > determinism of astrology, but I have lot of reasons and examples to > believe > > in the later. > > > > Om Namah Shivay > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya@> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajeev, > > > > > > ///It is important to be aware of ones tendencies etc. thus the > > > importance of > > > astrology. > > > But remember that your Astro chart is NOT your destiny, it is > only and > > > only > > > a directional map on your tendencies. > > > You can edit the map anytime you want, its not easy, but its not > very > > > hard > > > either.// > > > > > > I'm afraid I have to disagree with this statement. Not even the > saints > > > can escape their destiny. I'm reminded of two very, very holy men > who > > > suffered great physical infirmity during their closing years. At > the same > > > time I see many ordinary elderly people in their 90's enjoying > excellent > > > health and vigour (commensurate with their age of course)...there > are > > > even some who are still actively involved in seniors sports > competitions > > > etc. > > > > > > I see deeply religious people suffering many hardships whilst > other more > > > worldly (non spiritual) people prosper in all areas of life. > Destiny IS, > > > plain and simple! But how we react to that destiny is what > separates the > > > saint from the ordinary person. I agree that regular meditation > develops > > > blissful undisturbed peace that remains unscathed by outward > > > circumstances. > > > > > > But, you know, even THAT (one's desire to meditate on Lord Siva > etc.) is > > > preordained! If the desire is not there no amount of cajoling will > > > convince someone to spend time in meditation. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Mrs. Wendy > > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > - > > > " RajeevM " <rajeevmundra@ <rajeevmundra%40gmail.com>> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% > 40>> > > > Monday, June 23, 2008 1:46 PM > > > Re: Re: Bhava Chart > > > > > > Dear Deepak ji > > > > > > I have a simple solution to all ills and all goods. > > > Meditate on Lord Shiva for 10-30 mins daily. > > > Offer him water, milk, bel patra, honey etc and above all your un- > divided > > > attention and devotion for those few minutes. > > > Ask him what you want and get it with ease. > > > > > > It is important to be aware of ones tendencies etc. thus the > importance > > > of > > > astrology. > > > But remember that your Astro chart is NOT your destiny, it is > only and > > > only > > > a directional map on your tendencies. > > > You can edit the map anytime you want, its not easy, but its not > very > > > hard > > > either. > > > It feels strange when people run with the chart in hand from door > to door > > > seeking solutions, rather than only seeking to understand > themselves to > > > be > > > able to better design their future. > > > > > > The persistence with which you have been chasing learned humans, > its > > > great, > > > but chase lord Shiv with even half that persistence, and feel the > > > difference. > > > He will open the right door at the right time and give you the > right > > > thought > > > as you enter that right door. > > > > > > I have been with tons of astrologers, some good and some great, > but let > > > me > > > say one thing, > > > you create your daily destiny, not your astro chart. Make Shiv > your > > > co-architect. > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay > > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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