debilitated saturn conjoining moon

April 26, 2008

Dear Chandra,

Certainly you're free to discuss with the group certain aspects of your

chart...bearing in mind, of course, that such discussion is solely for the

purpose of sharing this knowledge with each other and not intended as a

reading per se.

First you should give the place of birth rather than just the coordinates,

and it would be helpful to know your gender i.e. male/female...

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" scrchandra " <scrchandra

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, April 25, 2008 1:46 PM

debilitated saturn conjoining moon

Hi all,

I am a newbie on this group. I would like to request your opinion on my

chart. I am not sure if such requests are entertained by you. I am

hoping to get some inputs from you.

birth details are

nov 21, 1969 - 7:43 am

79 E 4

12 N 13

Time Zone 5 h 30 min (India)

I am currently running moon dasa and Saturn Bhukthi. Its been pretty

rough at work as well as personal front. Do you see any light at the

end of the tunnel for me? I have had a not so great career in the

past 10+ years. Its still continuing to worsen :-)

Thank you for your time and help,

Chandra

April 27, 2008

Hi chandra,

Along with the place of birth, please do answer to the following

queries too.

1) Are you the eldest in your family?

2) Do you find yourself not in good terms with your family members

esp, your younger siblings? any such occurence recently?

3) In the past 10 years what period had been the worst for you?

4) Did you find yourself in a heavy loss after starting an independent

business or trying to run the same?

Thnx,

Manasa.

-- In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Chandra,

>

> Certainly you're free to discuss with the group certain aspects of your

> chart...bearing in mind, of course, that such discussion is solely

for the

> purpose of sharing this knowledge with each other and not intended as a

> reading per se.

>

> First you should give the place of birth rather than just the

coordinates,

> and it would be helpful to know your gender i.e. male/female...

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " scrchandra " <scrchandra

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, April 25, 2008 1:46 PM

> debilitated saturn conjoining moon

>

> Hi all,

> I am a newbie on this group. I would like to request your opinion on my

> chart. I am not sure if such requests are entertained by you. I am

> hoping to get some inputs from you.

>

> birth details are

> nov 21, 1969 - 7:43 am

> 79 E 4

> 12 N 13

> Time Zone 5 h 30 min (India)

>

> I am currently running moon dasa and Saturn Bhukthi. Its been pretty

> rough at work as well as personal front. Do you see any light at the

> end of the tunnel for me? I have had a not so great career in the

> past 10+ years. Its still continuing to worsen :-)

>

> Thank you for your time and help,

>

> Chandra

>

April 27, 2008

Thanks so much for responding.

>

> Hi chandra,

>

> Along with the place of birth, please do answer to the following

> queries too.

Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu.

>

> 1) Are you the eldest in your family?

Iam the youngest. Still the relationship has not been great. I have

financially helped all my elder borns. But still, they are not happy

with me.

> 2) Do you find yourself not in good terms with your family members

> esp, your younger siblings? any such occurence recently?

> 3) In the past 10 years what period had been the worst for you?

My job has been the worst for me. Despite my hard work, I have found

myself in bad situations. I was about to get fired in 1998. I

escaped narrowly. I am again in such a situation.

> 4) Did you find yourself in a heavy loss after starting an independent

> business or trying to run the same?

Iam working for a private company. If the manager does not like me, I

could be fired. Getting a job is not easy because of my age and

experience. I have not had the courage to do business so far.

Thanks again,

Ravikumar

>

> Thnx,

>

> Manasa.

>

> -- In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandra,

> >

> > Certainly you're free to discuss with the group certain aspects of

your

> > chart...bearing in mind, of course, that such discussion is solely

> for the

> > purpose of sharing this knowledge with each other and not intended

as a

> > reading per se.

> >

> > First you should give the place of birth rather than just the

> coordinates,

> > and it would be helpful to know your gender i.e. male/female...

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > " scrchandra " <scrchandra@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Friday, April 25, 2008 1:46 PM

> > debilitated saturn conjoining moon

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I am a newbie on this group. I would like to request your opinion

on my

> > chart. I am not sure if such requests are entertained by you. I am

> > hoping to get some inputs from you.

> >

> > birth details are

> > nov 21, 1969 - 7:43 am

> > 79 E 4

> > 12 N 13

> > Time Zone 5 h 30 min (India)

> >

> > I am currently running moon dasa and Saturn Bhukthi. Its been pretty

> > rough at work as well as personal front. Do you see any light at the

> > end of the tunnel for me? I have had a not so great career in the

> > past 10+ years. Its still continuing to worsen :-)

> >

> > Thank you for your time and help,

> >

> > Chandra

> >

>

April 27, 2008

This is interesting. I have retrograde Saturn's aspect on Natal moon

and neechabhanga Saturn conjoined with Moon in enemy Mar's house in

Navamsa.

Manasa's questions and Ravikumar's answers are eerily similar.

My birth details are:

DOB: May 12,1958

TOB: 20:26pm

POB: Colombo, Sri Lanka

1 & 2) Are you the eldest in your family?

> I am the Eldest. Relatinship with wife and children is not great.

They keep making demands of me all the time.

3) In the past 10 years what period had been the worst for you?

My job has been the worst for me. Despite my hard work, I have found

> myself in bad situations.

4) Did you find yourself in a heavy loss after starting an independent

> > business or trying to run the same?

Yes, several times. Also, I currently work for a private company and

can be fired at my manager's pleasure. I am reluctant to find another

job because of my age and insecurities. I am reluctant to start a

business because of past failures and fear.

This may be an interesting study for Wendy and other astrologers.

jyotish-vidya , " scrchandra " <scrchandra

wrote:

>

> Thanks so much for responding.

> >

> > Hi chandra,

> >

> > Along with the place of birth, please do answer to the following

> > queries too.

> Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu.

> >

> > 1) Are you the eldest in your family?

> Iam the youngest. Still the relationship has not been great. I

have

> financially helped all my elder borns. But still, they are not

happy

> with me.

> > 2) Do you find yourself not in good terms with your family members

> > esp, your younger siblings? any such occurence recently?

> > 3) In the past 10 years what period had been the worst for you?

> My job has been the worst for me. Despite my hard work, I have

found

> myself in bad situations. I was about to get fired in 1998. I

> escaped narrowly. I am again in such a situation.

> > 4) Did you find yourself in a heavy loss after starting an

independent

> > business or trying to run the same?

> Iam working for a private company. If the manager does not like

me, I

> could be fired. Getting a job is not easy because of my age and

> experience. I have not had the courage to do business so far.

>

> Thanks again,

> Ravikumar

> >

> > Thnx,

> >

> > Manasa.

> >

> > -- In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> > <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandra,

> > >

> > > Certainly you're free to discuss with the group certain aspects

of

> your

> > > chart...bearing in mind, of course, that such discussion is

solely

> > for the

> > > purpose of sharing this knowledge with each other and not

intended

> as a

> > > reading per se.

> > >

> > > First you should give the place of birth rather than just the

> > coordinates,

> > > and it would be helpful to know your gender i.e. male/female...

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > ___

> > >

> > > -

> > > " scrchandra " <scrchandra@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya >

> > > Friday, April 25, 2008 1:46 PM

> > > debilitated saturn conjoining moon

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I am a newbie on this group. I would like to request your

opinion

> on my

> > > chart. I am not sure if such requests are entertained by you.

I am

> > > hoping to get some inputs from you.

> > >

> > > birth details are

> > > nov 21, 1969 - 7:43 am

> > > 79 E 4

> > > 12 N 13

> > > Time Zone 5 h 30 min (India)

> > >

> > > I am currently running moon dasa and Saturn Bhukthi. Its been

pretty

> > > rough at work as well as personal front. Do you see any light

at the

> > > end of the tunnel for me? I have had a not so great career in

the

> > > past 10+ years. Its still continuing to worsen :-)

> > >

> > > Thank you for your time and help,

> > >

> > > Chandra

> > >

> >

>

April 27, 2008

Hi kumar,

Eerily your names are also similar. You are Kumar arumugham and

he is Ravi kumar. You both have the same Ascendant, 2nd and 5th lord

in 12th house, saturn moon conjunction (one has it in rashi and other

has it in navamsa in the same house), Exalted venus too in the same way..

Hope Wendyji and others will throw some light on this...

Regards,

Manasa

April 27, 2008

Hi Ravi kumar,

Thanx for responding to my queries. The reasons why I asked you those

questions was to affirm my findings. My husbands chart and your chart

had small similarities. He also has his lagna lord placed in 3rd house

( he is the eldest in the family; that reading was right to a certain

extent for you took responsibility at a young age and acted like an

elder brother to your elder siblings.). Similarly, he also has 10th

lord in lagna( it's said that people with their 10th lord in 1st or

2nd houses would prefer to own an independent business rather than

working under someone;that had been pretty much true in my hubby's

case).The reason I asked you about problems with younger siblings is

that I found the dispositor of third lord in debility in 6th house.But

you have problems with your elder siblings which is due to

mercury(11th lord) being combust.If I am right, a blend of ego,

miscommunication and your hesitation to deal with them could be the

reason. Communication errors is also the reason why you might get into

a problem with a senior colleague. Be careful with that then things

will be better.Do note that you were born under vyatipat yoga, so it

will be highly beneficial if you pray to your Ishta devta to seek his

blessings to lessen the problems.Ishta devta is seen from 12th house

from karakamsa in Navamsa which in your case has Moon. So pray to Lord

krishna for his blessings.

May god bless you.

Regards,

manasa.

April 27, 2008

Hi Manasa,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I would certainly keep a careful

watch on the aspects you mentioned.

Thank you.

> Hi Ravi kumar,

>

> Thanx for responding to my queries. The reasons why I asked you those

> questions was to affirm my findings. My husbands chart and your chart

> had small similarities. He also has his lagna lord placed in 3rd house

> ( he is the eldest in the family; that reading was right to a certain

> extent for you took responsibility at a young age and acted like an

> elder brother to your elder siblings.). Similarly, he also has 10th

> lord in lagna( it's said that people with their 10th lord in 1st or

> 2nd houses would prefer to own an independent business rather than

> working under someone;that had been pretty much true in my hubby's

> case).The reason I asked you about problems with younger siblings is

> that I found the dispositor of third lord in debility in 6th house.But

> you have problems with your elder siblings which is due to

> mercury(11th lord) being combust.If I am right, a blend of ego,

> miscommunication and your hesitation to deal with them could be the

> reason. Communication errors is also the reason why you might get into

> a problem with a senior colleague. Be careful with that then things

> will be better.Do note that you were born under vyatipat yoga, so it

> will be highly beneficial if you pray to your Ishta devta to seek his

> blessings to lessen the problems.Ishta devta is seen from 12th house

> from karakamsa in Navamsa which in your case has Moon. So pray to Lord

> krishna for his blessings.

> May god bless you.

>

> Regards,

> manasa.

>

April 28, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Thank you for jotting down those points. I have more questions to ask

you based on the two kumars chart. I would get back to you in 2 weeks

time. I have an important exam coming up this May 10th; infact that

been the reason why I was dormant in the forum. Please do pray for me.

Regards,

Manasa.

April 28, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Is it possible to know when would I see light at the end of the

tunnel? I re-established myself when a problem like this surfaced in

1998 (Sun MD and Jup AD coupled with Janma Saturn and Janma Jup i.e.

As per Gochara, both Jup and Sat were in Aries during 1998, IIRC).

Basically people (ab)use you when you get into a problem like this and

try to come out :-) It has happened again... How long is this going

to stretch. Now I have a family with 2 kids to raise.

Could it be possible to predict when things would turn better for me?

From April 29,2008, Moon MD-Merc AD starts. Merc is exalted in D-9 as

well as D-10. Would it be of any use? In D-10 again, Sun is in Leo.

(Iam seriously not sure if these concepts are parasara or Jaimini and

you can consider me unbaked and forgive me please :-))

Moon is in Ashwini(KETU) star and Mercury is in Anuradha(Saturn). Is

it again an Moon-saturn combo?

After that its Moon-ketu period And Ketu is in Venus' star.

All the good things happened to me only in Venus MD. After that its a

drought.

One extra point is Gochara : Jupiter in Sagitarius - (2nd from Lagna)

and 9th from Rashi. Would this help? This has not helped so far.

Thank you in advance for your time and thoughts.

Thank you,

Ravikumar

>

> Dear Manasa,

>

> If I might add my comments to your findings :-)

>

> You Wrote:

> //My husbands chart and your chart had small similarities. He also

has his

> lagna lord placed in 3rd house ( he is the eldest in the family;//

>

> When determining a native's position in family it's a good idea to

take a

> look at the operating dasa at birth. In this instance the native was

born

> under KE-KE-ME...

> Ketu occupies 10th in sign of Sun who is joined in lagna by 11th lord

> Mercury. Also Ketu's nakshatra lord (VE) is conjunct Jupiter,

significator

> of elder sibling/s.

>

> //Ishta devta is seen from 12th house from karakamsa in Navamsa

which in

> your case has Moon.//

>

> Karakamsa is a Jaimini principle used in conjunction with Jaimini dasa

> system. In Parasara, of course, Sun is AtmaKaraka...

> [for the benefit of beginners, the Navamsa sign occupied by

AtmaKaraka is

> called the Karakamsa]

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, April 28, 2008 5:32 AM

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