Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Vic, Moon is inimical to Mercury and being conjunct increases this negativity. There is conflict between the emotional and intellectual mind...highlighted by the fact that Moon owns 5th house of intellect whilst Mercury is lord of 4th house of emotions. Both are in the company of natural (and) functional malefics SA & SU who aspect 4th house itself. 5th house fares better due to aspect of Jupiter but, as you can see, it's a complicated issue, especially so as Mercury, owning 7th, is considered a functional malefic for this Ascendant. We have to be quite certain of the relationship between the planets and what the effect will be of prescribing gems. The rule of thumb is " When in doubt, DON " T " In this instance MO/ME/SA all occupy nakshatra of Ketu who occupies lagna...indicating lack of self-esteem, introverted nature etc...although Jupiter's aspect on lagna should overcome this to some extent. My thoughts would be to (maybe) recommend gem for lagna lord Jupiter, dispositor of MO/ME To be perfectly honest, the older I get the less inclined I am to recommend gems at all. They DO have a powerful effect and unless we're absolutely certain what that effect will be we should refrain. It's somewhat similar to taking modern medicines...there is always some side affect that has to be weighed against any potential benefit. I really want to stress the point here that, in prescribing gems, we're attempting to alter the karma in a significant way...we need to think very carefully about this because, ultimately the decision we make will come back to us as our own karma that will (eventually) have to be paid. Right decision = positive karma Wrong decision = negative karma Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 AM Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Sir, I agree that moon's affliction needs remedy but what if lagna is Aquarius, Dhanu or Leo where Moon is 6th , 8th & 12th lords respectively.I had a consultant with Aquarius Lagna with Moon heavily afflicted in the 6th house and he had mental problems to the extent that he had to be tied in chain.I tired both pearl & Neelam[ Blue Sapphire ] Pearl gave very adverse results while Neelam proved effective.So I suggest to try stone related to lagnesh first as it may proove to be helpful. Regards Sanjay Misra Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to others without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up taking the negative karma of the person taking his advice. Since trying to alter nature plan can boomerang sometimes. On the other hand, another school of thought says that, an astrologer is doing good by trying to help others, so only positive can accrue to the astrologer, atleast no negative side effects on the astrologer himself. What is your view on this? anyone who cares to reply is welcome. Regards -m- Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 9 July, 2008 10:44:41 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Vic, Moon is inimical to Mercury and being conjunct increases this negativity. There is conflict between the emotional and intellectual mind...highlighted by the fact that Moon owns 5th house of intellect whilst Mercury is lord of 4th house of emotions. Both are in the company of natural (and) functional malefics SA & SU who aspect 4th house itself. 5th house fares better due to aspect of Jupiter but, as you can see, it's a complicated issue, especially so as Mercury, owning 7th, is considered a functional malefic for this Ascendant. We have to be quite certain of the relationship between the planets and what the effect will be of prescribing gems. The rule of thumb is " When in doubt, DON " T " In this instance MO/ME/SA all occupy nakshatra of Ketu who occupies lagna...indicating lack of self-esteem, introverted nature etc...although Jupiter's aspect on lagna should overcome this to some extent. My thoughts would be to (maybe) recommend gem for lagna lord Jupiter, dispositor of MO/ME To be perfectly honest, the older I get the less inclined I am to recommend gems at all. They DO have a powerful effect and unless we're absolutely certain what that effect will be we should refrain. It's somewhat similar to taking modern medicines...there is always some side affect that has to be weighed against any potential benefit. I really want to stress the point here that, in prescribing gems, we're attempting to alter the karma in a significant way...we need to think very carefully about this because, ultimately the decision we make will come back to us as our own karma that will (eventually) have to be paid. Right decision = positive karma Wrong decision = negative karma Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 AM Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy You said " " I really want to stress the point here that, in prescribing gems, we're attempting to alter the karma in a significant way...we need to think very carefully about this because, ultimately the decision we make will come back to us as our own karma that will (eventually) have to be paid. " " Does this applies to a Doctor also when he prescribes medicines? An astrologer and doctor are very comparable only tools are different. Regards -m- Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 9 July, 2008 10:44:41 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Vic, Moon is inimical to Mercury and being conjunct increases this negativity. There is conflict between the emotional and intellectual mind...highlighted by the fact that Moon owns 5th house of intellect whilst Mercury is lord of 4th house of emotions. Both are in the company of natural (and) functional malefics SA & SU who aspect 4th house itself. 5th house fares better due to aspect of Jupiter but, as you can see, it's a complicated issue, especially so as Mercury, owning 7th, is considered a functional malefic for this Ascendant. We have to be quite certain of the relationship between the planets and what the effect will be of prescribing gems. The rule of thumb is " When in doubt, DON " T " In this instance MO/ME/SA all occupy nakshatra of Ketu who occupies lagna...indicating lack of self-esteem, introverted nature etc...although Jupiter's aspect on lagna should overcome this to some extent. My thoughts would be to (maybe) recommend gem for lagna lord Jupiter, dispositor of MO/ME To be perfectly honest, the older I get the less inclined I am to recommend gems at all. They DO have a powerful effect and unless we're absolutely certain what that effect will be we should refrain. It's somewhat similar to taking modern medicines...there is always some side affect that has to be weighed against any potential benefit. I really want to stress the point here that, in prescribing gems, we're attempting to alter the karma in a significant way...we need to think very carefully about this because, ultimately the decision we make will come back to us as our own karma that will (eventually) have to be paid. Right decision = positive karma Wrong decision = negative karma Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 AM Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Monica, The cardinal rule, as with the physicians Hippocratic Oath, is first; 'Do No Harm'. I see so many novice astrologers today experimenting with gems...without any real sense of the possible consequences. I've been studying jyotish for 20 yrs and, no doubt, the older I get the more hesitant I am to prescribe gems if there's even the slightest possibility of conflict with other planets...I just don't want to take on that responsibility anymore. I don't believe astrologers take up any of the negative karma of the one consulting him/her (per se); However, without doubt, any harm we cause others comes back to us ten-fold. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:59 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mrs. Wendy I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to others without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up taking the negative karma of the person taking his advice. Since trying to alter nature plan can boomerang sometimes. On the other hand, another school of thought says that, an astrologer is doing good by trying to help others, so only positive can accrue to the astrologer, atleast no negative side effects on the astrologer himself. What is your view on this? anyone who cares to reply is welcome. Regards -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Mrs Wendy, When I tried to give same view with my friends and clients, they did not appreciate.It is true that one has to be very conservative in suggesting gems for any purpose. About the onus of negative karmas of the person consulting has to be viewed from the point of view of misguidance on the part of Astrologer vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish jyotish-vidya Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM Dear Monica, The cardinal rule, as with the physicians Hippocratic Oath, is first; 'Do No Harm'. I see so many novice astrologers today experimenting with gems...without any real sense of the possible consequences. I've been studying jyotish for 20 yrs and, no doubt, the older I get the more hesitant I am to prescribe gems if there's even the slightest possibility of conflict with other planets...I just don't want to take on that responsibility anymore. I don't believe astrologers take up any of the negative karma of the one consulting him/her (per se); However, without doubt, any harm we cause others comes back to us ten-fold. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80@ .co. in> <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:59 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mrs. Wendy I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to others without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up taking the negative karma of the person taking his advice. Since trying to alter nature plan can boomerang sometimes. On the other hand, another school of thought says that, an astrologer is doing good by trying to help others, so only positive can accrue to the astrologer, atleast no negative side effects on the astrologer himself. What is your view on this? anyone who cares to reply is welcome. Regards -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear V.R. Krishnan, I agree! When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office without a prescription. We need to " stick to our guns " however, and not be influenced by fashion. Just because every tom, dick, and jane is making a big show of prescribing this or that Gem on this or that pinky toe - doesn't mean that we should join the bandwagon. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net On Jul 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, vattem krishnan wrote: > Dear Mrs Wendy, > When I tried to give same view with my friends and clients, they did > not appreciate.It is true that one has to be very conservative in > suggesting gems for any purpose. > About the onus of negative karmas of the person consulting has to be > viewed from the point of view of misguidance on the part of Astrologer > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya > Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in > Mental Anguish > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM Dear Monica, > > The cardinal rule, as with the physicians Hippocratic Oath, is > first; 'Do > No Harm'. > I see so many novice astrologers today experimenting with > gems...without > any real sense of the possible consequences. I've been studying > jyotish > for 20 yrs and, no doubt, the older I get the more hesitant I am to > prescribe gems if there's even the slightest possibility of conflict > with > other planets...I just don't want to take on that responsibility > anymore. > > I don't believe astrologers take up any of the negative karma of the > one > consulting him/her (per se); However, without doubt, any harm we cause > others comes back to us ten-fold. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > ____________ _________ _________ _______ > > - > " monica Astro " <monicaastro80@ .co. in> > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:59 PM > Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental > Anguish > > Dear Mrs. Wendy > > I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to > others > without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up taking the negative > karma > of the person taking his advice. > Since trying to alter nature plan can boomerang sometimes. > > On the other hand, another school of thought says that, > an astrologer is doing good by trying to help others, > so only positive can accrue to the astrologer, atleast no negative > side > effects on the astrologer himself. > > What is your view on this? > anyone who cares to reply is welcome. > > Regards > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Monica, //Does this applies to a Doctor also when he prescribes medicines?// Doctors, of course, undergo many years of training before they're allowed to practice. This is not always the case with astrologers. Some, with the exuberance of youth, start practising after reading one or two books...this could never happen in the medical profession. Having said that, there can be no doubt that doctors too make mistakes...sometimes with grave consequences. However often the fault is more with the drug company than with the Dr. who might himself have acted in good faith. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:07 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mrs. Wendy You said " " I really want to stress the point here that, in prescribing gems, we're attempting to alter the karma in a significant way...we need to think very carefully about this because, ultimately the decision we make will come back to us as our own karma that will (eventually) have to be paid. " " Does this applies to a Doctor also when he prescribes medicines? An astrologer and doctor are very comparable only tools are different. Regards -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Vic and Krishnan, //When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office without a prescription.// This is how it once was in regards to antibiotics. People just with a simple cold would expect to get a prescription for antibiotics and it was almost always given. Today doctors are reluctant to do this as the consequences of over prescribing are surfacing with the proliferation of bacteria resistant to known antibiotics. As for Gems; it's usually safe to prescribe gem for lagna, unless of course lagna happens to be Capricorn with Saturn having 2nd maraksthana as moolatrikona. Gem for 5th/9th bhavas are usually prescribed for prosperity. But always one needs to consider the relationship between the planets. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear V.R. Krishnan, I agree! When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office without a prescription. We need to " stick to our guns " however, and not be influenced by fashion. Just because every tom, dick, and jane is making a big show of prescribing this or that Gem on this or that pinky toe - doesn't mean that we should join the bandwagon. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net On Jul 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, vattem krishnan wrote: > Dear Mrs Wendy, > When I tried to give same view with my friends and clients, they did > not appreciate.It is true that one has to be very conservative in > suggesting gems for any purpose. > About the onus of negative karmas of the person consulting has to be > viewed from the point of view of misguidance on the part of Astrologer > vrkrishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy Some people talk about some planets being " Badhak " . Like Mars is 9th and 4th Lord for Leo and if placed in Good houses should be helpful. But some say that Mars would act like an " obstacle creator " or badhak for Leo lagna. and if a coral is worn for mars, it would increase his obstacle creating powers. Similarly there are badhaks for other lagnas as well, even when lord of different most benefic houses. Is the concept of Badhka discussed by Sage Parashar and the likes? Your opinion on this. Regards -m- - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:28 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish > Dear Vic and Krishnan, > > //When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they > have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office > without a prescription.// > > This is how it once was in regards to antibiotics. People just with a > simple cold would expect to get a prescription for antibiotics and it was > almost always given. Today doctors are reluctant to do this as the > consequences of over prescribing are surfacing with the proliferation of > bacteria resistant to known antibiotics. > > As for Gems; it's usually safe to prescribe gem for lagna, unless of > course lagna happens to be Capricorn with Saturn having 2nd maraksthana > as moolatrikona. Gem for 5th/9th bhavas are usually prescribed for > prosperity. But always one needs to consider the relationship between the > planets. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 PM > Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental > Anguish > > > Dear V.R. Krishnan, > > I agree! When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they > have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office > without a prescription. > > We need to " stick to our guns " however, and not be influenced by > fashion. Just because every tom, dick, and jane is making a big show > of prescribing this or that Gem on this or that pinky toe - doesn't > mean that we should join the bandwagon. > > Yours, > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor > http://www.vedicastrologer.net > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, vattem krishnan wrote: > >> Dear Mrs Wendy, >> When I tried to give same view with my friends and clients, they did >> not appreciate.It is true that one has to be very conservative in >> suggesting gems for any purpose. >> About the onus of negative karmas of the person consulting has to be >> viewed from the point of view of misguidance on the part of Astrologer >> vrkrishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 PS: //I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to others without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up...// This is certainly good advice regardless.. Many astrologers pray to lord Ganesh (remover of obstacles) before casting a chart. The old Pundit I spoke of earlier, who gave me my first lessons, taught me to draw the shorthand symbol for ganesh at the top of the page...it's been so long since I did that now I've forgotten...I think it looked something similar to the symbol for Leo, but I could be wrong, it's been so long. ___ Dear Monica, The cardinal rule, as with the physicians Hippocratic Oath, is first; 'Do No Harm'. I see so many novice astrologers today experimenting with gems...without any real sense of the possible consequences. I've been studying jyotish for 20 yrs and, no doubt, the older I get the more hesitant I am to prescribe gems if there's even the slightest possibility of conflict with other planets...I just don't want to take on that responsibility anymore. I don't believe astrologers take up any of the negative karma of the one consulting him/her (per se); However, without doubt, any harm we cause others comes back to us ten-fold. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:59 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mrs. Wendy I had one person who said to me that an astrologer who give advice to others without doing " Gayatri Jaap " Daily may end up taking the negative karma of the person taking his advice. Since trying to alter nature plan can boomerang sometimes. On the other hand, another school of thought says that, an astrologer is doing good by trying to help others, so only positive can accrue to the astrologer, atleast no negative side effects on the astrologer himself. What is your view on this? anyone who cares to reply is welcome. Regards -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Monica, Badhak is a Jaimini (sign specific) concept used in conjunction with Jaimini (sign specific) dasas. Parashara functional malefic/benefic scheme based on lordship is used in conjunction with Vimsottari dasa. It's not wise to mix the two unique systems. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Monica " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:09 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mrs. Wendy Some people talk about some planets being " Badhak " . Like Mars is 9th and 4th Lord for Leo and if placed in Good houses should be helpful. But some say that Mars would act like an " obstacle creator " or badhak for Leo lagna. and if a coral is worn for mars, it would increase his obstacle creating powers. Similarly there are badhaks for other lagnas as well, even when lord of different most benefic houses. Is the concept of Badhka discussed by Sage Parashar and the likes? Your opinion on this. Regards -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Madam, These basic tenets of Astrology can never be deviated.If it is done, the negative karmas (of the native)certainly chase the Astrologer. As far as gems for mooltrikonas are concerned I still feel that the need is to be analysed depending on the dasa and the results being felt. However we commonly observe many people wearing yellow sapphire to index fingure.Some times i really get shocked if not terrified. May be appropriate if i quote an incident that took palce in 1997 with one of my lady colleague.in her 30s. She wore a yellow sapphire to the right hand index fingure on that morning and I was giving her some dictation.I just got diverted and asked her why she is having yellow sapphire and asked abot the person that presribed.the gem After advising her that it may not be very much essential I informed her that i she can follow other alternatives.(and told her).Then continued with the task of completing the dictation and sent her. To my shock after an hour so she got a call from some of her relations asking her to rush home.Later I came to know that her husband committed suicide in a religious piligrimmage and died.It was really a big shock for me and tried to analyse the incident through a prasna chart.somehow I was convinced that the negative effect of jupiter and the gem she was wearing did not lead to any positive result and to any preventive aspect. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish jyotish-vidya Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:58 AM Dear Vic and Krishnan, //When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office without a prescription. // This is how it once was in regards to antibiotics. People just with a simple cold would expect to get a prescription for antibiotics and it was almost always given. Today doctors are reluctant to do this as the consequences of over prescribing are surfacing with the proliferation of bacteria resistant to known antibiotics. As for Gems; it's usually safe to prescribe gem for lagna, unless of course lagna happens to be Capricorn with Saturn having 2nd maraksthana as moolatrikona. Gem for 5th/9th bhavas are usually prescribed for prosperity. But always one needs to consider the relationship between the planets. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Vic D " <vicdicara (AT) gmail (DOT) com> <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35 PM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear V.R. Krishnan, I agree! When I don't make a gem recommendation, they feel that they have been denied something! Like a patient leaving a doctors office without a prescription. We need to " stick to our guns " however, and not be influenced by fashion. Just because every tom, dick, and jane is making a big show of prescribing this or that Gem on this or that pinky toe - doesn't mean that we should join the bandwagon. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net On Jul 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, vattem krishnan wrote: > Dear Mrs Wendy, > When I tried to give same view with my friends and clients, they did > not appreciate.It is true that one has to be very conservative in > suggesting gems for any purpose. > About the onus of negative karmas of the person consulting has to be > viewed from the point of view of misguidance on the part of Astrologer > vrkrishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Sir, In prasna lagna Rahu in 6th in navamsa is shooting trouble along with moon in 8th in virgo sign.That apart in the natal chart capricorn moon in dhanishta.lagna lord jupiter in 9th aspecting lagna.dasa lord saturn in 12th from moon in association with sun mercury indicate emotional aspects.Try with yellow sapphire till the end antar of moon.From 21st november2008 transit of jupiter into makara may change situation. I believe jupiter position has improved and help the person to regaing normalacy.It may take atleast 3-4 years for normal behaviour. regards vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Vic D <vicdicara Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 11:35 PM Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Mr.Vic, You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon. Yours Shaaswat --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Vic D <vicdicara Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:05 AM Respected List Members: I have a person in mental anguish. I clearly see that the moon is severely afflicted, but something is making me hesitate to prescribe a pearl. Please give your suggestions. Birth Data: 7 January 1959 11:13 am Hempstead, New York Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Shaaswat, //You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon.// I'm assuming you're the same Shaaswat that wrote the following? On Jul 4 you wrote: //Thanks for explanation.In fact i am new to this Group but i am trying to learn Astrology by books from last two years.// PS: The native is undergoing pratyantar of SATURN in dasa of Rahu (disposited by MERCURY). Saturn, aspecting both houses of Mercury (4th/7th), is currently transiting 6th house of worries and anxieties along with lagna lord's dispositor Mars. I would be inclined, as said before, to recommend Y.Sapphire...along with propitiation of Saturn. Why do you suppose it's recommended NOT to wear Pearl with Emerald or B.Sapphire? The reason is that Moon is a natural enemy to both Mercury and Saturn (and in this instance) Moon, in same house, has also become a temporary enemy. Permanent Enemy + Temporary Enemy = Bitter Enemy The significance of this is emphasised when we consider the current dasa periods (RA-RA-SA). Rahu, as I said, is disposited by Mercury. You have my reasoning why I would be hesitant to recommend Pearl under the current circumstances...now let's have your reasoning why you would recommend Pearl Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " OK " <sincere_ok <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:24 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mr.Vic, You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon. Yours Shaaswat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 PS: It seems to me that the native's current level of anxiety could have been exacerbated by the onset of pratyantar lord Saturn who was (at the time) transiting 6th house of worries/anxieties. It would be helpful to know if the anxiety worsened with the onset of Saturn P/D (2 May). Bear in mind also that Saturn is transiting 12th from dasa lord Rahu whilst Rahu himself transits sign of Saturn. I would be interested to hear other's opinion on this. Dear Shaaswat, //You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon.// I'm assuming you're the same Shaaswat that wrote the following? On Jul 4 you wrote: //Thanks for explanation.In fact i am new to this Group but i am trying to learn Astrology by books from last two years.// PS: The native is undergoing pratyantar of SATURN in dasa of Rahu (disposited by MERCURY). Saturn, aspecting both houses of Mercury (4th/7th), is currently transiting 6th house of worries and anxieties along with lagna lord's dispositor Mars. I would be inclined, as said before, to recommend Y.Sapphire...along with propitiation of Saturn. Why do you suppose it's recommended NOT to wear Pearl with Emerald or B.Sapphire? The reason is that Moon is a natural enemy to both Mercury and Saturn (and in this instance) Moon, in same house, has also become a temporary enemy. Permanent Enemy + Temporary Enemy = Bitter Enemy The significance of this is emphasised when we consider the current dasa periods (RA-RA-SA). Rahu, as I said, is disposited by Mercury. You have my reasoning why I would be hesitant to recommend Pearl under the current circumstances...now let's have your reasoning why you would recommend Pearl. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " OK " <sincere_ok <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:24 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mr.Vic, You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon. Yours Shaaswat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dear wendy ji, I am fully agreed by your explations but we must to check the problem from the other angle too.As the utmost benific 5th house is aspected by Ketu,Mars,Venus and Jupiter and out of them Jupiter's aspecting is only favorable and the lord of 5th house [Trikona] is placed in 10th Kendra with a nice placement but placed with melafics Sun & Saturn along with Marak Mercury,so Moon is under the grip of melafics.Therefore to give it strength we will have to make it strong as to send the rescue to the needy. Pearl will work like a damage controller.So in such case we will to by pass the Maitri [Enemy] factor. Thanks for sharing. Regards Shaaswat --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish jyotish-vidya Thursday, July 10, 2008, 3:24 AM Dear Shaaswat, //You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon.// I'm assuming you're the same Shaaswat that wrote the following? On Jul 4 you wrote: //Thanks for explanation. In fact i am new to this Group but i am trying to learn Astrology by books from last two years.// PS: The native is undergoing pratyantar of SATURN in dasa of Rahu (disposited by MERCURY). Saturn, aspecting both houses of Mercury (4th/7th), is currently transiting 6th house of worries and anxieties along with lagna lord's dispositor Mars. I would be inclined, as said before, to recommend Y.Sapphire.. .along with propitiation of Saturn. Why do you suppose it's recommended NOT to wear Pearl with Emerald or B.Sapphire? The reason is that Moon is a natural enemy to both Mercury and Saturn (and in this instance) Moon, in same house, has also become a temporary enemy. Permanent Enemy + Temporary Enemy = Bitter Enemy The significance of this is emphasised when we consider the current dasa periods (RA-RA-SA). Rahu, as I said, is disposited by Mercury. You have my reasoning why I would be hesitant to recommend Pearl under the current circumstances. ..now let's have your reasoning why you would recommend Pearl Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " OK " <sincere_ok > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:24 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mr.Vic, You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon. Yours Shaaswat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dear Wendy ji, I am fully agreed by your explanations but we must to check the problem from the other angle too.As the utmost benefic 5th house is aspected by Ketu,Mars,Venus and Jupiter and out of them Jupiter's aspecting is only favorable and the lord of 5th house [Trikona] is placed in 10th Kendra with a nice placement but placed with melafics Sun & Saturn along with Marak Mercury,so Moon is under the grip of melafics.Therefore to give it strength we will have to make it strong as to send the rescue to the needy. Pearl will work like a damage controller.So in such case we will have to by pass the Maitri [Enemy] factor. Thanks for sharing. Regards Shaaswat --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish jyotish-vidya Thursday, July 10, 2008, 3:24 AM Dear Shaaswat, //You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon.// I'm assuming you're the same Shaaswat that wrote the following? On Jul 4 you wrote: //Thanks for explanation. In fact i am new to this Group but i am trying to learn Astrology by books from last two years.// PS: The native is undergoing pratyantar of SATURN in dasa of Rahu (disposited by MERCURY). Saturn, aspecting both houses of Mercury (4th/7th), is currently transiting 6th house of worries and anxieties along with lagna lord's dispositor Mars. I would be inclined, as said before, to recommend Y.Sapphire.. .along with propitiation of Saturn. Why do you suppose it's recommended NOT to wear Pearl with Emerald or B.Sapphire? The reason is that Moon is a natural enemy to both Mercury and Saturn (and in this instance) Moon, in same house, has also become a temporary enemy. Permanent Enemy + Temporary Enemy = Bitter Enemy The significance of this is emphasised when we consider the current dasa periods (RA-RA-SA). Rahu, as I said, is disposited by Mercury. You have my reasoning why I would be hesitant to recommend Pearl under the current circumstances. ..now let's have your reasoning why you would recommend Pearl Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " OK " <sincere_ok > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:24 AM Re: Recommending Moon for a Person in Mental Anguish Dear Mr.Vic, You can suggest that person to wear Pearl and Yellow Sapphire both without any hesitation and you will see positive result soon. Yours Shaaswat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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