Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Rao Sahib, Your answer at the bottom of this mail is very interesting. What you say makes sense, is a good starting point but is it the whole truth? There are many levels of truth. Your point centers around the absoluteness of Karmic Law. My view is that astrology is like remedial knowledge – akin medicine. Medicine has documentation, astrology not much. If one falls ill, should he suffer as karmic outcome or take medicine to correct. Please correct me, even KP astrology recommends gem stones, doesn’t it Mr. Rao? lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao Lajmi Wednesday, May 07, 2008 13:00 Rajni Khan Cc: Umesh Sharma; Umesh [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, This " upaya-craze " is widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer-gemdealer nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and innocent simpletons who abound in India... Recently, the Bangalore Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! While I was in Sydney last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast on Aussie TV... A Tantric was also recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! I wish that this association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... Our Indian people need to be woken up from their deep slumber... But,sadly, I found it amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that promoting such activity... I hope that the Rajni Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... Pl. do not give in to greed for money and fame,the wrong way... May better sense prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! ----- Forwarded Message ---- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM Re: Change in Job Dear Jagannathan, A few queries please re. your write-up on " Change in Job " ... 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas etc., influence one's destiny at all...? 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even Bramha can change one's destiny... 4) In my considered opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer-vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support from these... 5) I am quite disappointed that even in the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about in this column... 6) Also there is a controversy over which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less malefic(??),etcetera... I shall greatly appreciate your explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of the correct gem to be worn...etc. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM Re: Change in Job Dear Sir, After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. Wish you all the best, Regards, Jagannathan. . On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Respected Sir, For the following person details, please tell when he can change his current job. And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. Birth 03-Apr-1981. Place of Birth: Kumbakonam Time of Birth: 14:20. -Regards, Shankar. Check out the all-new face of India. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 See below lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao Lajmi Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 Rajnikhan Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, This " upaya-craze " is widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer-gemdealer nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and innocent simpletons who abound in India... While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? Recently, the Bangalore Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! While I was in Sydney last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast on Aussie TV... This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba – Google it and you shall find many sites on it. A Tantric was also recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the credentials of the Tantric – may be the rationalist association chose him because of his stupidity. I wish that this association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. Our Indian people need to be woken up from their deep slumber... But,sadly, I found it amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that promoting such activity... Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the same or the priests? I hope that the Rajni Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. Pl. do not give in to greed for money and fame,the wrong way... May better sense prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... Thank you for your prayers. L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! ----- Forwarded Message ---- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM Re: Change in Job Dear Jagannathan, A few queries please re. your write-up on " Change in Job " ... 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas etc., influence one's destiny at all...? 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even Bramha can change one's destiny... 4) In my considered opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer-vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support from these... 5) I am quite disappointed that even in the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about in this column... 6) Also there is a controversy over which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less malefic(??),etcetera... I shall greatly appreciate your explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of the correct gem to be worn...etc. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM Re: Change in Job Dear Sir, After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. Wish you all the best, Regards, Jagannathan. . On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Respected Sir, For the following person details, please tell when he can change his current job. And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. Birth 03-Apr-1981. Place of Birth: Kumbakonam Time of Birth: 14:20. -Regards, Shankar. Check out the all-new face of India. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Rajni Khan, Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! I guess this has been your Lal Kitab Members'concerted effort all this while... How then are uall different than crooked and scheming confidence tricksters ? You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE THOROUGHLY... EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... L.Y.Rao. L.Y.Rao. > > See below > > > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao Lajmi > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > Rajnikhan > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > This " upaya-craze " is widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer-gemdealer nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > Recently, the Bangalore Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > While I was in Sydney last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast on Aussie TV... > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it and you shall find many sites on it. > > > > A Tantric was also recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist association chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > I wish that this association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > Our Indian people need to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > But,sadly, I found it amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that promoting such activity... > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the same or the priests? > > I hope that the Rajni Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > Pl. do not give in to greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > May better sense prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > Thank you for your prayers. > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > Re: Change in Job > > Dear Jagannathan, > > A few queries please re. your write-up on " Change in Job " ... > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even Bramha can change one's destiny... > > 4) In my considered opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support from these... > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about in this column... > > 6) Also there is a controversy over which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less malefic(??),etcetera... > > I shall greatly appreciate your explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > Re: Change in Job > > Dear Sir, > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > Wish you all the best, > > Regards, > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj > wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change his current job. > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > -Regards, > Shankar. > > > > > > _____ > > Check out the all-new face of India. <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? wm=n/ _____ > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Rao Sahib, It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and it is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti feeling generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, we will take it up again. Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a desire to learn or know reflecting in them. lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 lalkitab [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job Dear Rajni Khan, Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! I guess this has been your Lal Kitab Members'concerted effort all this while... How then are uall different than crooked and scheming confidence tricksters ? You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE THOROUGHLY... EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... L.Y.Rao. L.Y.Rao. > > See below > > > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao Lajmi > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > Rajnikhan > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > This " upaya-craze " is widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer-gemdealer nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > Recently, the Bangalore Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > While I was in Sydney last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast on Aussie TV... > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it and you shall find many sites on it. > > > > A Tantric was also recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist association chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > I wish that this association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > Our Indian people need to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > But,sadly, I found it amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that promoting such activity... > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the same or the priests? > > I hope that the Rajni Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > Pl. do not give in to greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > May better sense prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > Thank you for your prayers. > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > Re: Change in Job > > Dear Jagannathan, > > A few queries please re. your write-up on " Change in Job " ... > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even Bramha can change one's destiny... > > 4) In my considered opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support from these... > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about in this column... > > 6) Also there is a controversy over which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less malefic(??),etcetera... > > I shall greatly appreciate your explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > Re: Change in Job > > Dear Sir, > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > Wish you all the best, > > Regards, > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj > wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change his current job. > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > -Regards, > Shankar. > > > > > > _____ > > Check out the all-new face of India. <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? wm=n/> > > > > > > _____ > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Rajni Khan, Perhaps Shri Yograj's mail will help you OPEN your eyes...Nobody can help a person who is awake,yet pretends he is asleep...! Truly,Yograj ji was Man enough to write what he wrote...if you are still very adamant... you are BEYOND help of any kind...Not even the late Pt.Roop Chand Joshiji can help you...I feel very sad for you... It is never too late,Rajni to perform Saadhana,and INTROSPECT DEEPLY...with a desire to KNOW the TRUTH... You will surely succeed...May God Bless you... L.Y.Rao. > > Rao Sahib, > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and it is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti feeling generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, we will take it up again. > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > Members'concerted effort all this while... > How then are uall different than crooked and > scheming confidence tricksters ? > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > THOROUGHLY... > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > L.Y.Rao. > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> > [lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > Lajmi > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > Rajnikhan > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- gemdealer > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > While I was in Sydney > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it and > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the > credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist association > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > I wish that this > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > But,sadly, I found it > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that > promoting such activity... > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the > same or the priests? > > > > I hope that the Rajni > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > Pl. do not give in to > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > May better sense > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > <% 40> > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > 4) In my considered > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > from these... > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about > in this column... > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > <% 40> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > Regards, > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change > his current job. > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > -Regards, > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Rajni Khan, I have not,do not and never did insist that you should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose to live steeped in ignorance... May God bless you...and let better sense prevail... Ignorance is BLISS... ! L.Y.Rao. > > Rao Sahib, > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and it is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti feeling generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, we will take it up again. > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > Members'concerted effort all this while... > How then are uall different than crooked and > scheming confidence tricksters ? > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > THOROUGHLY... > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > L.Y.Rao. > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> > [lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > Lajmi > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > Rajnikhan > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- gemdealer > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > While I was in Sydney > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it and > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the > credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist association > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > I wish that this > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > But,sadly, I found it > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that > promoting such activity... > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the > same or the priests? > > > > I hope that the Rajni > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > Pl. do not give in to > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > May better sense > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > <% 40> > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > 4) In my considered > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > from these... > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about > in this column... > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > <% 40> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > Regards, > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change > his current job. > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > -Regards, > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Rao Sahib, 2 sayings come to my mind: Voltaire: he must be ignorant. He answers every question put to him. Anonymous (of Indian origin): those who shout the most, have the most to hide (ignorance) lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. Monday, May 12, 2008 19:49 lalkitab [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job Dear Rajni Khan, I have not,do not and never did insist that you should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose to live steeped in ignorance... May God bless you...and let better sense prevail... Ignorance is BLISS... ! L.Y.Rao. > > Rao Sahib, > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and it is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti feeling generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, we will take it up again. > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > Members'concerted effort all this while... > How then are uall different than crooked and > scheming confidence tricksters ? > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > THOROUGHLY... > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > L.Y.Rao. > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> > [lalkitab <lalkitab% 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > Lajmi > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > Rajnikhan > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- gemdealer > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible and > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so great > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > While I was in Sydney > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a disciple > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even telecast > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door Darshan had > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it and > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable what > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what are the > credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist association > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > I wish that this > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > But,sadly, I found it > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that > promoting such activity... > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda doing the > same or the priests? > > > > I hope that the Rajni > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > Pl. do not give in to > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > May better sense > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > <% 40> > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > 4) In my considered > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or having > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times in > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > from these... > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied about > in this column... > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > <% 40> > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > Re: Change in Job > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The reasons > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to Bhadra > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or two > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > Regards, > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change > his current job. > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this prediction. > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > -Regards, > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Dear Rajni Khan, How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like you all to be amenable to REASON...? All dogmatic philosophies have never survived for very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such dogmas and the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen... Ponder over it... L.Y.Rao. > > Dear Rajni Khan, > I have not,do not and never did insist that you > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose to > live steeped in ignorance... > May God bless you...and let better sense prevail... > Ignorance is BLISS... ! > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > Rao Sahib, > > > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and it > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti feeling > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, we > will take it up again. > > > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a > desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > > lalkitab > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > > Members'concerted effort all this while... > > How then are uall different than crooked and > > scheming confidence tricksters ? > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > > THOROUGHLY... > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING ON > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab% > 40> > > [lalkitab <lalkitab% > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > > Rajnikhan > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- > gemdealer > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible > and > > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from you > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai Baba,on > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so > great > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > > > While I was in Sydney > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a > disciple > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even > telecast > > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door > Darshan had > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been buried. > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google it > and > > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the challenge > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a chance > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable > what > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what > are the > > credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist > association > > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish that this > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only that > > promoting such activity... > > > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda > doing the > > same or the priests? > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will all > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > > > May better sense > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > <% > 40> > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not even > > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > > > 4) In my considered > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the astrologer- > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or > having > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern times > in > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > > from these... > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied > about > > in this column... > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or the > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing of " the > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use of > > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > <% > 40> > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The > reasons > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to > Bhadra > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or > two > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can change > > his current job. > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this > prediction. > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > > > > -Regards, > > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who is reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers given in response to ur questions. sincerely kulbirbance lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Rajni Khan, > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like you > all to be amenable to REASON...? > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived for > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such dogmas and > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen... > Ponder over it... > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > I have not,do not and never did insist that you > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose to > > live steeped in ignorance... > > May God bless you...and let better sense > prevail... > > Ignorance is BLISS... ! > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > Rao Sahib, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and > it > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti > feeling > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, > we > > will take it up again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > > > lalkitab > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > > > Members'concerted effort all this while... > > > How then are uall different than crooked and > > > scheming confidence tricksters ? > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > > > THOROUGHLY... > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING > ON > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > <lalkitab% > > 40> > > > [lalkitab > <lalkitab% > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > > > Lajmi > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > > > Rajnikhan > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- > > gemdealer > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible > > and > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from > you > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai > Baba,on > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so > > great > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > > > > > While I was in Sydney > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a > > disciple > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even > > telecast > > > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door > > Darshan had > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been > buried. > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba †" Google > it > > and > > > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so- called > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the > challenge > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a > chance > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable > > what > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what > > are the > > > credentials of the Tantric †" may be the rationalist > > association > > > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish that this > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only > that > > > promoting such activity... > > > > > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda > > doing the > > > same or the priests? > > > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will > all > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > > > > > May better sense > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > > <% > > 40> > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > > > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not > even > > > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > > > > > 4) In my considered > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the > astrologer- > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or > > having > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern > times > > in > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > > > from these... > > > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied > > about > > > in this column... > > > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or > the > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > > > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing > of " the > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the use > of > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > > <% > > 40> > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The > > reasons > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to > > Bhadra > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or > > two > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can > change > > > his current job. > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this > > prediction. > > > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards, > > > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > > > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Dear Kulbir Bhai, I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a great patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep your extra batteries of patience on and charged. Sincerely, Dharmender kulbirbance Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM lalkitab [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who is reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers given in response to ur questions.sincerelykulbirbancelalkitab , "L.Y.Rao." <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Rajni Khan,> How can any one expect "dogmatic" persons like you > all to be amenable to REASON...?> All dogmatic philosophies have never survived for > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such dogmas and > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen...> Ponder over it...> L.Y.Rao.> > >> > Dear Rajni Khan,> > I have not,do not and never did insist that you > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose to > > live steeped in ignorance...> > May God bless you...and let better sense > prevail...> > Ignorance is BLISS... !> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > >> > > Rao Sahib,> > > > > > > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda and > it > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti > feeling > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right frame, > we > > will take it up again.> > > > > > > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and a > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao.> > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06> > > lalkitab > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan,> > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that "Two > > > Wrongs make One Right"... ! !> > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > > > Members'concerted effort all this while...> > > How then are uall different than crooked and > > > scheming confidence tricksters ?> > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question...> > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...?> > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ?> > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > > > THOROUGHLY...> > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN...> > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND THRIVING > ON > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL...> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > >> > > > See below> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > <lalkitab%> > 40> > > > [lalkitab > <lalkitab%> > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > > > Lajmi> > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53> > > > Rajnikhan> > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh> > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh,> > > > > > > > This "upaya-craze" is > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer-> > gemdealer > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of many > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor gullible > > and > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from > you > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had "exposed" the myth of Satya Sai > Baba,on > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is so > > great > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...!> > > > > > > > While I was in Sydney > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a > > disciple > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even > > telecast > > > on Aussie TV...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few years. > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimha’s rule, Door > > Darshan had > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been > buried. > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba â€" Google > it > > and > > > you shall find many sites on it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode was > > > telecast "live"...to the great Chagrin of many of the so-called > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the > challenge > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a > chance > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, laughable > > what > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devil’s advocate, what > > are the > > > credentials of the Tantric â€" may be the rationalist > > association > > > chose him because of his stupidity.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish that this > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab MYTH...it > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH...> > > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber...> > > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in our > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only > that > > > promoting such activity...> > > > > > > > Aren’t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda > > doing the > > > same or the priests? > > > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of exploitation > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in your > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to the > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will > all > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL...> > > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path.> > > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way...> > > > > > > > May better sense > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty...> > > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers.> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>> > > > <%> > 40> > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>> > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM> > > > Re: Change in Job> > > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan,> > > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > > > on "Change in Job"...> > > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory...> > > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...?> > > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several "stories" > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that "Nobody,not > even > > > Bramha can change one's destiny...> > > > > > > > 4) In my considered > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the > astrologer-> > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village-folk...or > > having > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern > times > > in > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological support > > > from these...> > > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied > > about > > > in this column...> > > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or > the > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it less > > > malefic(??),etcetera...> > > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing > of "the > > > appropriate gem/s" and also a reasoned justification for the use > of > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc.> > > > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@>> > > > <%> > 40> > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM> > > > Re: Change in Job> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The > > reasons > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the RajaYoga > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi Pariharas > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to > > Bhadra > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one or > > two > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to nine > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana to > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan on > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved.> > > > > > > > Wish you all the best,> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Jagannathan. .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can > change > > > his current job.> > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this > > prediction.> > > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981.> > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam> > > > Time of Birth: 14:20.> > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards,> > > > Shankar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./?> > > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Dear Kulbir, I totally agree with you...Kulbir every one KNOWS that I specialise only in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,but you keep asking me questions on Traditional Astrology... Tell me Kulbir...how more BLIND AND DEAF and ILLITERATE CAN ANY ONE BE ? L.Y.Rao. > > Dear Kulbir Bhai, > I must appreciate one thing in you that you have such a great patience to deal with this person. God bless you and keep your extra batteries of patience on and charged. > Sincerely, > Dharmender > > > kulbirbance > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:14 PM > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > rao Sir, now the whole group knows who is dogmatic and who is > reasonable. i am still waiting for ur answer to my answers given in > response to ur questions. > sincerely > kulbirbance > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " > <lyrastro1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > How can any one expect " dogmatic " persons like > you > > all to be amenable to REASON...? > > All dogmatic philosophies have never survived > for > > very long...It is in the nature of Humans to reject such dogmas > and > > the philosophies spawned by them...as History has seen... > > Ponder over it... > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > > I have not,do not and never did insist that > you > > > should discuss LK with me...I couldn't care less...if you choose > to > > > live steeped in ignorance... > > > May God bless you...and let better sense > > prevail... > > > Ignorance is BLISS... ! > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > Rao Sahib, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is futile to discuss issues with you. You have an agenda > and > > it > > > is not of learning or understanding LK. My mistake. Such anti > > feeling > > > generally results from some loss. Once you are in the right > frame, > > we > > > will take it up again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then, I will only answer those mails which have sense and > a > > > desire to learn or know reflecting in them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > > > [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of L.Y.Rao. > > > > Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 > > > > lalkitab > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajni Khan, > > > > Your entire effort has been to convince me that " Two > > > > Wrongs make One Right " ... ! ! > > > > I guess this has been your Lal Kitab > > > > Members'concerted effort all this while... > > > > How then are uall different than crooked and > > > > scheming confidence tricksters ? > > > > You will write all sorts of nonsensical things, > > > > quite irrelevant to the MAIN question... > > > > WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...? > > > > NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER...OR EVEN KNOW ABOUT > > > > IT...AND YET YOU SWEAR BY IT... ! ? > > > > THAT IS THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THIS CENTURY...A FIT > > > > CASE INDEED FOR THE RATIONALISTS' ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE > > > > THOROUGHLY... > > > > EXPLOITING THE INNOCENT AND THE GULLIBLE SEEMS TO BE > > > > THE CROOKED BUSINESS YOU ALL ARE IN... > > > > I REPEAT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF SHAMELESSLY > > > > PERPETUATING THE GREATEST FRAUD OF THE LAST CENTURY AND > THRIVING > > ON > > > > IT...ROBBING INNOCENT PEOPLE...IN THE NAME OF UPAYAS ET AL... > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab > > <lalkitab% > > > 40> > > > > [lalkitab > > <lalkitab% > > > 40> ] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao > > > > Lajmi > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 > > > > > Rajnikhan > > > > > Cc: Umesh Sharma; umesh > > > > > [lalkitab] Fw: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Rajni Khan & Umesh, > > > > > > > > > > This " upaya-craze " is > > > > widespread in India...As said earlier the vaidik-astrologer- > > > gemdealer > > > > nexus existed in India from times immemorial...and I know of > many > > > > such nexuses existing, busy minting money from the poor > gullible > > > and > > > > innocent simpletons who abound in India... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While not disputing the statement, I would like to hear from > > you > > > > why most of us will want to use astrology if not for solutions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, the Bangalore > > > > Branch of the Rationalists' Association,founded by the famous > > > > Dr.Kovoor of Sri Lamka,had " exposed " the myth of Satya Sai > > Baba,on > > > > National TV...but the clout of the Baba and his followers is > so > > > great > > > > that people in India,refuse to believe the Scientists...! > > > > > > > > > > While I was in Sydney > > > > last Oct-Nov-Dec,last year,a lot of cassettes showing how a > > > disciple > > > > surreptiously passed on a gold chain to the Great Satya Sai > > > > Baba...was being freely distributed in Sydney...it was even > > > telecast > > > > on Aussie TV... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an old story, told many times. It has been few > years. > > > > Someone told me, that during PV Narasimhaââ,¬â " ¢s rule, Door > > > Darshan had > > > > caputured the footage of something similar but it had been > > buried. > > > > Plus allegations of sexual misconduct by Sai Baba ââ,¬ " > Google > > it > > > and > > > > you shall find many sites on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tantric was also > > > > recently exposed by this Association...and th entire episode > was > > > > telecast " live " ...to the great Chagrin of many of the so- > called > > > > Tantrics all over India...No body has since accepted the > > challenge > > > > thrown by the Rationalists' Association ever since...! ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you mean that it was telecast on India Tv, then I had a > > chance > > > > to see some portions of it. Frankly, it was so silly, > laughable > > > what > > > > the tantric was trying to do. As a devilââ,¬â " ¢s advocate, > what > > > are the > > > > credentials of the Tantric ââ,¬ " may be the rationalist > > > association > > > > chose him because of his stupidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish that this > > > > association also thoroughly investigates the Lal Kitab > MYTH...it > > > > could help open many eyes...to the TRUTH... > > > > > > > > > > Well you can invite them to do so. Will do good to all of > us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Indian people need > > > > to be woken up from their deep slumber... > > > > > > > > > > But,sadly, I found it > > > > amazing that highly educated and well-to-do intellectuals in > our > > > > Country are stooping to such low levels of exploitation of the > > > > gullibility of people and their amazing thirst for the > > > > miraculous...and minting money...at their cost...and not only > > that > > > > promoting such activity... > > > > > > > > > > Arenââ,¬â " ¢t politicians or bureaucrats or the local goonda > > > doing the > > > > same or the priests? > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the Rajni > > > > Khans and Umeshs of India help arrest this kind of > exploitation > > > > instead of actively promoting it...and accumulating sins in > your > > > > Bank...which one day you will surely have to account for, to > the > > > > Almighty...then... pl. don't repent,it will not help, you will > > all > > > > surely be punished severely...May God Have Mercy On You ALL... > > > > > > > > > > Wise words. Hope we stick to the path. > > > > > > > > > > Pl. do not give in to > > > > greed for money and fame,the wrong way... > > > > > > > > > > May better sense > > > > prevail...I fervently pray to God Almighty... > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your prayers. > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > > > <% > > > 40> > > > > > Cc: Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:16:41 AM > > > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannathan, > > > > > > > > > > A few queries please re. your write-up > > > > on " Change in Job " ... > > > > > > > > > > 1) Firstly,Astrology(stemming from any > > > > system) is purely based on the Karma Theory... > > > > > > > > > > 2) If so, how can Pariharas/Upayas > > > > etc., influence one's destiny at all...? > > > > > > > > > > 3) Our Mythology has several " stories " > > > > to give force to,and illustrate the statement that " Nobody,not > > even > > > > Bramha can change one's destiny... > > > > > > > > > > 4) In my considered > > > > opinion,Upayas/Pariharas,and prescribing Gems etc., are only > > > > Placebos,mostly to make some additional earnings by the > > astrologer- > > > > vaidic-jeweller nexus which has existed since ages in Hindu > > > > Society...simply as a clever ruse to fleece the less > > > > educated,innocent and gullible people,mostly village- folk...or > > > having > > > > strong village cultural remnants inspite of living in Modern > > times > > > in > > > > Big cities...and such people derive a great psychological > support > > > > from these... > > > > > > > > > > 5) I am quite disappointed that even in > > > > the 21st Century such Pariharas/Upayas etc...are being bandied > > > about > > > > in this column... > > > > > > > > > > 6) Also there is a controversy over > > > > which gem is to be used...That Governing the BENEFIC HOUSES or > > the > > > > one governing the MALEFIC HOUSES simply in order to make it > less > > > > malefic(??),etcetera... > > > > > > > > > > I shall greatly appreciate your > > > > explanation/justification for Pariharas and Upayas wearing > > of " the > > > > appropriate gem/s " and also a reasoned justification for the > use > > of > > > > the correct gem to be worn...etc. > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr@> > > > > > <% > > > 40> > > > > > Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 9:04:27 AM > > > > > Re: Change in Job > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > After June,3,2008 your friends desire will be fulfilled.The > > > reasons > > > > are,Venus is with Maes who is the Dsamadhipathy and the > RajaYoga > > > > Karak.They are in the nineth house.However some Shanthi > Pariharas > > > > have to be done to get full benefit.1.Lighting an oil lamp to > > > Bhadra > > > > Kali amman on a Monday,and perform archana,poor feeding to one > or > > > two > > > > persons,2.Archana to Lord shiva,3.Lighting lamps of oil to > nine > > > > planets in Suryanars temple.(Sun gods temple)and to do Archana > to > > > > Sri.Maha Vishnu and lastly lighting oil lamp to Shani bhagavan > on > > > > Saturdays till your friends objects are achieved. > > > > > > > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jagannathan. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/08, Shankar <sankaranj (AT) gmail (DOT) com <sankaranj@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > For the following person details, please tell when he can > > change > > > > his current job. > > > > > And also please share the base/details/ reason for this > > > prediction. > > > > > > > > > > Birth 03-Apr-1981. > > > > > Place of Birth: Kumbakonam > > > > > Time of Birth: 14:20. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards, > > > > > Shankar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. > > > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_frontpage_2/*http:/in./? > > > > wm=n/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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