Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Vic, No doubt there are differing views within the scientific community...one group favours this theory, another favours that theory and so on. Once again, as with everything, it comes down to the source...which source holds more weight. Pasted below is a short description of Dr. Hagelin's standing as a competent physicist who holds one view. Obviously the competent physicists you've spoken to hold another view...can you share with us who they are? *Dr. Hagelin, a world-renowned quantum physicist, received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard University, and conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and SLAC (the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center). His scientific contributions in the fields of electroweak unification, grand unification, super-symmetry and cosmology include some of the most cited references in the physical sciences. He is also responsible for the development of a highly successful Grand Unified Field Theory based on the Superstring. Dr. Hagelin is therefore at the pinnacle of achievement among the elite cadre of physicists who have fulfilled Einstein's dream of a " theory of everything " through their mathematical formulation of the Unified Field-the most advanced scientific knowledge of our time. In recognition of his outstanding achievements, Dr. Hagelin was named winner of the prestigious Kilby Award, which recognizes scientists who have made " major contributions to society through their applied research in the fields of science and technology. " The award recognized Dr. Hagelin as " a scientist in the tradition of Einstein, Jeans, Bohr and Eddington. " * It's only natural that I would favour Dr. Hagelin's view as we both belong to Maharishi's movement...and it's from this connection that I know of him. BTW Maharishi, an enlightened satguru, himself had a PHD in physics (if I'm not mistaken). As some members here will know, my deepest understanding of jyotish came from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course I took around 20 yrs ago. I must confess I've not been closely involved with the movement for some years now...none-the-less the knowledge gained during those early years can never be lost. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:43 AM " quantum " , " unified field " and scientific validation of astrology Dear Respected Members, This past week I've discussed quantum and unified field theory with two competent physicists. I believe that it would be more in advantageous to the cause of validating astrology to the scientifically minded, if we would identify with the term " Strange Entanglement " and downplay references to " quantum " and " unified field " - especially the later. Unified field theory is generally accepted by the scientific community as unimportant (relatively) as it lacks complete mathematic description and (of course) empirical proof. On the other hand, the physical phenomenon they call " Strange Entanglement " is completely sound and proven. Here is the description of this phenomenon: 1. Take a photon (a particle of light) 2. Shoot it through a fine electrical field so that the photon splits into two photos. 3. One of the photos will have an orientation, and the other will have the exact opposite orientation. 4. Affect the orientation of either one of the photons and the orientation of the other photon INSTANTANEOUSLY (i.e. faster than the speed of light) becomes affected as well. The most important part is that this happens instantaneously, regardless of distance. The photons could be light-years apart, but still anything happening to one of the photons would INSTANTLY affect the other as well. What this proves is that matter is connected on some level or in some dimension " beyond " or " below " the dimension science is currently capable of measuring and observing. This is very significant for a scientific validation of the capacity for Planets to affect human behavior despite their apparent distance. It also allows a scientific rationale to connect gems, mantras, etc. to planets and to humans. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Vic To me this description just sounds like a sub-part of the Unified Field or String Theory. Where just the entanglement is being studied which could be a small effect of the Unified Field. Unified Field says without any doubt that all matter is connected. I was looking at the archives of this group and saw that there were some discussions on this topic a few days ago also. Regards -m- Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Tuesday, 8 July, 2008 9:56:28 AM Re: " quantum " , " unified field " and scientific validation of astrology Dear Vic, No doubt there are differing views within the scientific community... one group favours this theory, another favours that theory and so on. Once again, as with everything, it comes down to the source...which source holds more weight. Pasted below is a short description of Dr. Hagelin's standing as a competent physicist who holds one view. Obviously the competent physicists you've spoken to hold another view...can you share with us who they are? *Dr. Hagelin, a world-renowned quantum physicist, received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard University, and conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and SLAC (the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center). His scientific contributions in the fields of electroweak unification, grand unification, super-symmetry and cosmology include some of the most cited references in the physical sciences. He is also responsible for the development of a highly successful Grand Unified Field Theory based on the Superstring. Dr. Hagelin is therefore at the pinnacle of achievement among the elite cadre of physicists who have fulfilled Einstein's dream of a " theory of everything " through their mathematical formulation of the Unified Field-the most advanced scientific knowledge of our time. In recognition of his outstanding achievements, Dr. Hagelin was named winner of the prestigious Kilby Award, which recognizes scientists who have made " major contributions to society through their applied research in the fields of science and technology. " The award recognized Dr. Hagelin as " a scientist in the tradition of Einstein, Jeans, Bohr and Eddington. " * It's only natural that I would favour Dr. Hagelin's view as we both belong to Maharishi's movement...and it's from this connection that I know of him. BTW Maharishi, an enlightened satguru, himself had a PHD in physics (if I'm not mistaken). As some members here will know, my deepest understanding of jyotish came from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course I took around 20 yrs ago. I must confess I've not been closely involved with the movement for some years now...none-the- less the knowledge gained during those early years can never be lost. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Vic D " <vicdicara (AT) gmail (DOT) com> " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:43 AM " quantum " , " unified field " and scientific validation of astrology Dear Respected Members, This past week I've discussed quantum and unified field theory with two competent physicists. I believe that it would be more in advantageous to the cause of validating astrology to the scientifically minded, if we would identify with the term " Strange Entanglement " and downplay references to " quantum " and " unified field " - especially the later. Unified field theory is generally accepted by the scientific community as unimportant (relatively) as it lacks complete mathematic description and (of course) empirical proof. On the other hand, the physical phenomenon they call " Strange Entanglement " is completely sound and proven. Here is the description of this phenomenon: 1. Take a photon (a particle of light) 2. Shoot it through a fine electrical field so that the photon splits into two photos. 3. One of the photos will have an orientation, and the other will have the exact opposite orientation. 4. Affect the orientation of either one of the photons and the orientation of the other photon INSTANTANEOUSLY (i.e. faster than the speed of light) becomes affected as well. The most important part is that this happens instantaneously, regardless of distance. The photons could be light-years apart, but still anything happening to one of the photons would INSTANTLY affect the other as well. What this proves is that matter is connected on some level or in some dimension " beyond " or " below " the dimension science is currently capable of measuring and observing. This is very significant for a scientific validation of the capacity for Planets to affect human behavior despite their apparent distance. It also allows a scientific rationale to connect gems, mantras, etc. to planets and to humans. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicast rologer.net From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Dear Wendy, I am not saying it's " wrong " or that unified field is " wrong " - just that you may find you make greater headway into scientific acceptance by choosing the terminology that they favor. Many scientists assign " unified field theory " to the " realm of unproven theories that metaphysics delights in. " If you use the term " strange entanglement " you will be able to communicate the same ideas to them, but without raising their eyebrows instead of their defense shields. Yes, as Monica pointed out - Strange Entanglement is directly connected with string theory and unified field. It is the same thing - only a less objectionable terminology to the main bulk of the scientific community. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net PS - My sources are an author on vedic science and microbiology, and my father who is a genius and a physics major from the University of Stony Brook in New York. On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > Dear Vic, > > No doubt there are differing views within the scientific > community...one > group favours this theory, another favours that theory and so on. Once > again, as with everything, it comes down to the source...which source > holds more weight. > > Pasted below is a short description of Dr. Hagelin's standing as a > competent physicist who holds one view. Obviously the competent > physicists you've spoken to hold another view...can you share with > us who > they are? > > *Dr. Hagelin, a world-renowned quantum physicist, received his A.B. > summa > cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard > University, and conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European > Center for Particle Physics) and SLAC (the Stanford Linear Accelerator > Center). His scientific contributions in the fields of electroweak > unification, grand unification, super-symmetry and cosmology include > some > of the most cited references in the physical sciences. He is also > responsible for the development of a highly successful Grand Unified > Field Theory based on the Superstring. Dr. Hagelin is therefore at the > pinnacle of achievement among the elite cadre of physicists who have > fulfilled Einstein's dream of a " theory of everything " through their > mathematical formulation of the Unified Field-the most advanced > scientific knowledge of our time. > > In recognition of his outstanding achievements, Dr. Hagelin was named > winner of the prestigious Kilby Award, which recognizes scientists who > have made " major contributions to society through their applied > research > in the fields of science and technology. " The award recognized Dr. > Hagelin as " a scientist in the tradition of Einstein, Jeans, Bohr and > Eddington. " * > > It's only natural that I would favour Dr. Hagelin's view as we both > belong to Maharishi's movement...and it's from this connection > that > I know of him. > BTW Maharishi, an enlightened satguru, himself had a PHD in physics > (if > I'm not mistaken). > > As some members here will know, my deepest understanding of jyotish > came > from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course I took around 20 yrs ago. I must > confess I've not been closely involved with the movement for some > years > now...none-the-less the knowledge gained during those early years can > never be lost. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:43 AM > " quantum " , " unified field " and scientific > validation of astrology > > > Dear Respected Members, > > This past week I've discussed quantum and unified field theory with > two competent physicists. I believe that it would be more in > advantageous to the cause of validating astrology to the > scientifically minded, if we would identify with the term " Strange > Entanglement " and downplay references to " quantum " and " unified field " > - especially the later. > > Unified field theory is generally accepted by the scientific community > as unimportant (relatively) as it lacks complete mathematic > description and (of course) empirical proof. On the other hand, the > physical phenomenon they call " Strange Entanglement " is completely > sound and proven. Here is the description of this phenomenon: > > 1. Take a photon (a particle of light) > 2. Shoot it through a fine electrical field so that the photon splits > into two photos. > 3. One of the photos will have an orientation, and the other will have > the exact opposite orientation. > 4. Affect the orientation of either one of the photons and the > orientation of the other photon INSTANTANEOUSLY (i.e. faster than the > speed of light) becomes affected as well. > > The most important part is that this happens instantaneously, > regardless of distance. The photons could be light-years apart, but > still anything happening to one of the photons would INSTANTLY affect > the other as well. > > What this proves is that matter is connected on some level or in some > dimension " beyond " or " below " the dimension science is currently > capable of measuring and observing. This is very significant for a > scientific validation of the capacity for Planets to affect human > behavior despite their apparent distance. It also allows a scientific > rationale to connect gems, mantras, etc. to planets and to humans. > > > > Yours, > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor > http://www.vedicastrologer.net > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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