Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Dear Rohini, Many thanks for that! As you say, the natal chart (basically) remains the same with both times. What does change, however is the rising nakshatra which I find quite interesting. One important fact we know about Maharishi is that he would go into silence (seclusion) each year around Dec/Jan. The time you've given shows Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun...a strong reinforcement for that annual seclusion, wouldn't you say? Whereas the later time shows lagna in Mars nakshatra... Last month (Jan) it was announced that he was retreating into silence and giving up control of the movement. Obviously he was then preparing for his passing from this world... A work well done, a work completed. For many years he'd worked 20hrs a day bringing transcendental meditation to the world. Over the years many (myself included, I'm sorry to say) had criticised the rising cost of TM programs and the huge amount of money flowing into the movement. But it takes a huge amount of money just to support/maintain the 'Mother Divine' program (http://motherdivine.org/) and the 'Purusha' program (http://www.purusha.org/) as well as all the other programs he's implemented to bring peace and harmony to the world. He's set up trusts to ensure these are supported for all time to come. None of this could be done without huge amounts of money. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:51 AM Re: Fw: Maharishi in Heaven I have the time as 7:18 AM (rest data same as you gave). This was given by a jyotishi follower of Maharshi. Data Quality? No clue! RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Dear Rohini, ///Sorry for my rant!/// Please indulge me with a little rant of my own :-) ///Perhaps some Teachers come to us to inculcate devotion in us but at the same time leave that tiny window that can be opened and allow us to choose if we are ready to make the right choice or wait some more!/// It's the fruition of karma that determines when/if we're ready for anything, don't you agree :-) ///Ordinary humans begin judging this and that teacher through biography and through different flavours of astrology and what not!/// Our karma, reflected in horoscope, dictates that we'll be drawn to the teacher that is right for us...even those drawn to false teachers are simply following their own karma...who can sit in judgement of this? How that teacher comes to us may be through something we've read (a biography perhaps), something on TV or just through word of mouth...whatever! There can be many different ways that we might learn of and be drawn to a particular teacher. ///Are we even equipped to do so? I often wonder!/// In what way equipped...? I believe that reading the karma reflected in a horoscope should never be judgemental...we, of all people, should know that everyone (saint and sinner alike) is in the grip of his own karma... Our wise teachers tell us that we're all influenced at every moment (either positively or negatively) by our environment. We're taught that every thought, word and action has a ripple effect that returns to us from every corner of the cosmos; Because of this, we should take some care where we place our attention. Far better, wouldn't you say, to have our awareness on the lives (the teachings) of rishis and saints than to be overly attentive of negativity...whether in a horoscope or anything else in our environment. Having said that I am, of course, mindful of the fact that professional astrologers, having taken upon themselves the task of reading for the general public, cannot pick and choose what horoscope comes their way. This is why it's so important, in my opinion, that someone wanting a personal reading should approach a professional astrologer with the right attitude of respect and humility, and with an appropriate offering... Professional meaning a qualified astrologer who earns or supplements his income by offering this service. Such professionals, I'm sure, would never be found competing with each other on public forums. We see all the time what happens when overly enthusiastic (but under developed) jyotish devotees start giving readings on these forums. Competition amongst them, spurred by the desire to build a reputation, leads to unpleasant conflict and (public) brawling that diminishes the respect due to all sincere jyotishi... It really is quite shameful behaviour and no-one should have to witness it!! PS: In my opinion, it would be missing the point entirely to focus on the mundane when viewing the horoscope of an enlightened one...whoever that may be! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:35 PM Re: Fw: Maharishi in Heaven Dear Wendy, I am not by any stretch of anyone's imagination even close to spiritual or any other label that removes any individual from the tier of worldly and ordinary, and I am not being modest or pretentiously modest, please trust me. Jabalpore or Jabalpur is a wonderful place in Madhya Pradesh and it has the 'Marble rocks' a heavenly sight indeed! From there arose two Forces of Nature -- Rajaneesh and Mahesh Yogi. Rajneesh was a Jain and Mahesh Yogi was a non-brahmin, In a sense both were not the usual kind of Sages and Saints that India and Indians tended to assume and expect! Both were pioneers in more ways than one, as far as I am concerned! They broke the norms, they were the Divine Wake-Up Calls that the DIVINE reality sends us down to us human beings from time to time. In their own and unique ways, both of them broke the mold/mould and stirred and shook up the STATUS QUO! Marble has something that has to do with the soul of India! Shahjahan, a descendent of Persians who invaded and ruled India gave India and the world, Taj Mahal which remains a wonder to be experienced after all these decades and centuries! Yes there are all kinds of gory stories and clouds around it, but the BEAUTY cannot be denied! If one looks closely a slab of pristine marbel, they will observe that it is not uniform or uniformly beautiful but that it has BEAUTY and CHARACTER! Each slab of Marbel is BEAUTIFUL, DISTINCT and thus has CHARACTER! Perhaps some Teachers come to us to inculcate devotion in us but at the same time leave that tiny window that can be opened and allow us to choose if we are ready to make the right choice or wait some more! There is no right or wrong choice! Or the right time for that matter! We humans may be in a hurry, but God shall wait, just like any loving parent of a playful child waiting to pick him or her up after he is done 'playing' knows! Ordinary humans begin judging this and that teacher through biography and through different flavours of astrology and what not! Are we even equipped to do so? I often wonder! Sorry for my rant! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Dear Wendy and Rohini, Thank you both so much for sending in these times! This is an intriguing point you've written below Wendy regarding the nakshatra change... hmmmm ;-) It's really great to have these times and much appreciated. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ Dear Rohini, Many thanks for that! As you say, the natal chart (basically) remains the same with both times. What does change, however is the rising nakshatra which I find quite interesting. One important fact we know about Maharishi is that he would go into silence (seclusion) each year around Dec/Jan. The time you've given shows Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun...a strong reinforcement for that annual seclusion, wouldn't you say? Whereas the later time shows lagna in Mars nakshatra... Last month (Jan) it was announced that he was retreating into silence and giving up control of the movement. Obviously he was then preparing for his passing from this world... A work well done, a work completed. For many years he'd worked 20hrs a day bringing transcendental meditation to the world. Over the years many (myself included, I'm sorry to say) had criticised the rising cost of TM programs and the huge amount of money flowing into the movement. But it takes a huge amount of money just to support/maintain the 'Mother Divine' program (http://motherdivine <http://motherdivine.org/> ..org/) and the 'Purusha' program (http://www.purusha. <http://www.purusha.org/> org/) as well as all the other programs he's implemented to bring peace and harmony to the world. He's set up trusts to ensure these are supported for all time to come. None of this could be done without huge amounts of money. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya <http://JyotishVidya.com> .com http://groups. <jyotish-vidya> jyotish-vidya ___ - " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ <rohini_ranjan%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> <jyotish-vidya@ <jyotish-vidya%40> > Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:51 AM Re: Fw: Maharishi in Heaven I have the time as 7:18 AM (rest data same as you gave). This was given by a jyotishi follower of Maharshi. Data Quality? No clue! RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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