Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Dear Wendyji, Namaste.. Thank you for your imput and also taking the trouble to attach relavant postings,, Your efforts much appreciated, and gratefully received. regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Deer Sheevani, > > One needs to look at the horoscope before reaching a conclusion about any > planet. It's a fruitless exercise to declare any retrograde planet will > give specific results in all instances. > > Retrograde planets have been discussed at length here (many times) over > the last few years. If you look in the archives for msg #5754 (7 May > 2007) you will find the following discourse (pasted below)... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > Msg #5754 (7 May 2007) > > PS: I add here some scriptural reference that might be helpful to > members. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch73.htm > > **21.The effects of the Grahas, moving from their debilitation to > exaltation, are full. The effects of the Grahas, moving from their > exaltation to debilitation, will be lesser than described above. > > 22-23. Auspicious and inauspicious effects of all the Grahas are > according to the number of rays they possess. The prediction will not be > correct without the knowledge of the effects of the rays. Therefore it is > imperative, that in the judgment of Rashi Kundalis and declaring results > the effects of the number of rays of the Grahas be taken into account.** > ____ > > > Dear Krishna, > > //I am asking this because, there is a widespread belief that a > neecha planet when retro behaves like a uchcha planet.// > > The misconception regarding retrograde planets has developed due to > several reasons. > > FIRST: In the below sloka we understand that a planet acquires a certain > strength when in retrograde motion. This is understandable when we > consider that a retrograde planet is closer to the Earth. However, this > doesn't in anyway change the dignity of the planet...a neecha planet in > retrograde motion is still neecha. Some people have mistakenly equated > the increased retrograde strength to mean increased dignity whereas in > fact it simply means the neecha effect is more powerful. > > Strength due to the planets dignity, and strength due to motion, are two > entirely different things. A planet gains or loses dignity (by proxy) due > to the strength of its dispositor etc.. > > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm > 21-23. PLANETARY MOTIONS (MARS TO SATURN): > Eight kinds of motions are attributed to planets. These are Vakra > (retrogression), Anuvakra (entering the previous sign in retrograde > motion), Vikala (devoid of Motion or in stationary position), Manda > (somewhat slower motion than usual), Mandatara (slower than the previous > mentioned motion), Sama (somewhat increasing in motion as against Manda), > Chara (faster than Sama), and Atichara (entering next sign in accelerated > motion). The strengths allotted due to such 8 motions are : 60, 30, 15, > 30, 15, 7.5, 45, and 30. > > SECOND: Retrograde motion needs to be considered in respect to the > planet's position relative to its degree of debilitation/exaltation. As > we know, a planet increases in strength as it travels towards its degree > of exaltation and decreases proportionately as it travels away from it... > > In a very broad sense, if a planet past its degree of exaltation, turns > retrograde, then technically it's travelling back towards it...gaining > strength rather than losing it. The same applies in reverse for > debilitated planets. This rule applies to all planets wherever they are > in the horoscope. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________________ > > > - > " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:05 AM > Re: Retrograde > > > Namaste ji, > > Very interesting observation about retro/jupiter.. I have 2 charts of > persons in very close family/friends circle.. > > First person has karka lagna with retro jupiter in pisces,, all > kendras from lagna are empty of planets.. He is a life-long > alcoholic, fighting addictions all his life,, only last few years he > has been totally sober,, > > The second person has Aquarius lagna, with retro-jupiter, exalted in > 6H, conjunct rahu.. This person has never ever touched or tasted > alcohol.. > > You would have rahu-R-jupiter to be the alcoholic one,,!!!! > > regards > Sheevani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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