Reading of Uttara ji&#039;s chart

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, September 03, 2007 9:57 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Balaji,

I have some differences of opinion.

Guru has become malefic because of Kendradhipatya dosha. In

addition, as you have stated he is neecha in Navamsha. Hence, he

is a big malefic for the chart.

I thought breasts are represented by the third house. If you see

the third house, it gets the aspect of malefic Jupiter and

Saturn. Normally, cancer is a result of combined effect of

malefic Jupiter and Rahu. Here, Sani is afflicted by disposing

Rahu. Hence, 6th lord Sani passes on the effect of Rahu to the

third house through aspect. The thrid house is owned by 8th lord

Mars. Also, the natural 3rd house is afflicted by Mars. As you

have correctly said 8th house indicates chronic diseases.

Of course, all these indications are true for 1st house as well.

Then why cancer did not affect first house signification?

Probably Mercury was able to protect first house significations

being a benefic and having positioned in its own sign in

Navamsha. But, its position in a dusthana in Rasi is a negative.

I agree with your points on 9th lord in 12th and related

explanation.

I wish a speedy recovery for Uttara.

Regards,

Krishna

September 3, 2007

Dear Wendy,

Looks like this is another area where some difference of opinion

exists between astrologers. In translations of Varahamihira's

Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4) I find that chest has been

assigned to the third house.

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishna,

>

> If I might interject here for just a moment...

>

> ///I thought breasts are represented by the third house.///

>

> This may seem somewhat illogical, I know, but I was taught

> that, although

> nipples are seen from 3rd, breasts are to be seen from 4th.

> Having a little knowledge of physiology it makes more sense as

> the breast

> refers generally to the front of the chest and (medically)

> specifically to

> the mammary gland.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, September 03, 2007 9:57 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Balaji,

>

> I have some differences of opinion.

>

> Guru has become malefic because of Kendradhipatya dosha. In

> addition, as you have stated he is neecha in Navamsha. Hence,

> he

> is a big malefic for the chart.

>

> I thought breasts are represented by the third house. If you

> see

> the third house, it gets the aspect of malefic Jupiter and

> Saturn. Normally, cancer is a result of combined effect of

> malefic Jupiter and Rahu. Here, Sani is afflicted by disposing

> Rahu. Hence, 6th lord Sani passes on the effect of Rahu to the

> third house through aspect. The thrid house is owned by 8th

> lord

> Mars. Also, the natural 3rd house is afflicted by Mars. As you

> have correctly said 8th house indicates chronic diseases.

>

> Of course, all these indications are true for 1st house as

> well.

> Then why cancer did not affect first house signification?

> Probably Mercury was able to protect first house

> significations

> being a benefic and having positioned in its own sign in

> Navamsha. But, its position in a dusthana in Rasi is a

> negative.

>

> I agree with your points on 9th lord in 12th and related

> explanation.

>

> I wish a speedy recovery for Uttara.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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September 3, 2007

Dear Krishna,

///Looks like this is another area where some difference of opinion

exists between astrologers.///

Indeed!

My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi Jyotish

Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if requested :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch4.htm

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, September 03, 2007 11:21 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

Looks like this is another area where some difference of opinion

exists between astrologers. In translations of Varahamihira's

Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4) I find that chest has been

assigned to the third house.

Regards,

Krishna

September 3, 2007

Dear Krishna and All,

Parashara also gives heart (etc) for 4th sign (bhava).

**4-4 1/2. LIMBS OF KALAPURUSHA:

The time personified has his limbs as under with reference to the 12 signs

respectively: Head, face, arms, heart, stomach, hip, space below navel,

privities, thighs, knees, ankles, and feet.**

There is more than one error made in the following shloka (you quoted). Note

buttocks is given for 11th. S/B ankles (as we all know, the natural sequence

is; thighs, knees, ankles and feet). Buttocks S/B included in the space

below navel...see more here http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm

Also, if you study the shloka carefully, you should pick up the error in

3rd/4th. i.e., chest area (including heart etc) belongs to the same bhava

whereas arms (3rd) have been passed over completely.

Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4)

**In the celestial Chakra (globe) the signs commencing with Mesha and

Aswini, are each formed by nine padams (quarters) of stars and govern the

following organs of Kalapurusha, namely, head, face, chest, heart, belly,

waist, lower belly, sexual organ, thighs, knees, buttocks and feet

respectively.**

PS: Have deleted the latest file as I see it had already been uploaded Sep

23 2005

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Dear Krishna,

///Looks like this is another area where some difference of opinion

exists between astrologers.///

Indeed!

My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi Jyotish

Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if requested :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, September 03, 2007 11:21 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

Looks like this is another area where some difference of opinion

exists between astrologers. In translations of Varahamihira's

Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4) I find that chest has been

assigned to the third house.

Regards,

Krishna

September 3, 2007

Dear Wendy,

//My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi

Jyotish Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if

requested :-)//

Please do so. I will be greatful If you could send the entire

notes (not just the ref. for the current context).

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishna,

>

> ///Looks like this is another area where some difference of

> opinion

> exists between astrologers.///

>

> Indeed!

>

> My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi

> Jyotish

> Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if

> requested :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, September 03, 2007 11:21 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Looks like this is another area where some difference of

> opinion

> exists between astrologers. In translations of Varahamihira's

> Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4) I find that chest has been

> assigned to the third house.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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September 3, 2007

My apologies Krishna,

All I'm able to offer is the 'flyer' pertaining to this (particular) topic.

My personal notes are all over the place I'm afraid. You can access the

'flyer' in the Files section:

Karakatwas.JPG

(Significations of Bhavas)

uploaded Sep 23 2005

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:52 AM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

//My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi

Jyotish Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if

requested :-)//

Please do so. I will be greatful If you could send the entire

notes (not just the ref. for the current context).

Regards,

Krishna

September 3, 2007

PS: I ask members to please do the right thing and NOT pass this material on

to others. Be mindful that it is under copyright and I really shouldn't even

be making it available here.

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My apologies Krishna,

All I'm able to offer is the 'flyer' pertaining to this (particular) topic.

My personal notes are all over the place I'm afraid. You can access the

'flyer' in the Files section:

Karakatwas.JPG

(Significations of Bhavas)

uploaded Sep 23 2005

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:52 AM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

//My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi

Jyotish Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if

requested :-)//

Please do so. I will be greatful If you could send the entire

notes (not just the ref. for the current context).

Regards,

Krishna

September 4, 2007

Got it. Thanks Wendy.

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> My apologies Krishna,

>

> All I'm able to offer is the 'flyer' pertaining to this

> (particular) topic.

> My personal notes are all over the place I'm afraid. You can

> access the

> 'flyer' in the Files section:

>

> Karakatwas.JPG

> (Significations of Bhavas)

> uploaded Sep 23 2005

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://jyotishvidya.com/ch4.htm

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:52 AM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> //My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the

> 'Maharishi

> Jyotish Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature

> if

> requested :-)//

>

> Please do so. I will be greatful If you could send the entire

> notes (not just the ref. for the current context).

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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September 4, 2007

Dear Wendy,

Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

conclusions about her cancer?

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishna and All,

>

> Parashara also gives heart (etc) for 4th sign (bhava).

>

> **4-4 1/2. LIMBS OF KALAPURUSHA:

> The time personified has his limbs as under with reference to

> the 12 signs

> respectively: Head, face, arms, heart, stomach, hip, space

> below navel,

> privities, thighs, knees, ankles, and feet.**

>

> There is more than one error made in the following shloka (you

> quoted). Note

> buttocks is given for 11th. S/B ankles (as we all know, the

> natural sequence

> is; thighs, knees, ankles and feet). Buttocks S/B included in

> the space

> below navel...see more here

> http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm

> Also, if you study the shloka carefully, you should pick up

> the error in

> 3rd/4th. i.e., chest area (including heart etc) belongs to the

> same bhava

> whereas arms (3rd) have been passed over completely.

>

> Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4)

> **In the celestial Chakra (globe) the signs commencing with

> Mesha and

> Aswini, are each formed by nine padams (quarters) of stars and

> govern the

> following organs of Kalapurusha, namely, head, face, chest,

> heart, belly,

> waist, lower belly, sexual organ, thighs, knees, buttocks and

> feet

> respectively.**

>

> PS: Have deleted the latest file as I see it had already been

> uploaded Sep

> 23 2005

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> ///Looks like this is another area where some difference of

> opinion

> exists between astrologers.///

>

> Indeed!

>

> My primary source (4th governs chest etc.) was the 'Maharishi

> Jyotish

> Course' I took back in '88 - can send the literature if

> requested :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, September 03, 2007 11:21 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Looks like this is another area where some difference of

> opinion

> exists between astrologers. In translations of Varahamihira's

> Brihat Jataka (Ch. 1 shloka 4) I find that chest has been

> assigned to the third house.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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September 4, 2007

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

All references with me point out to the

breast,to be seen from the 4th house, only.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> If I might interject here for just a moment...

>

> ///I thought breasts are represented by the third house.///

>

> This may seem somewhat illogical, I know, but I was taught that,

although

> nipples are seen from 3rd, breasts are to be seen from 4th.

> Having a little knowledge of physiology it makes more sense as the

breast

> refers generally to the front of the chest and (medically)

specifically to

> the mammary gland.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, September 03, 2007 9:57 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Balaji,

>

> I have some differences of opinion.

>

> Guru has become malefic because of Kendradhipatya dosha. In

> addition, as you have stated he is neecha in Navamsha. Hence, he

> is a big malefic for the chart.

>

> I thought breasts are represented by the third house. If you see

> the third house, it gets the aspect of malefic Jupiter and

> Saturn. Normally, cancer is a result of combined effect of

> malefic Jupiter and Rahu. Here, Sani is afflicted by disposing

> Rahu. Hence, 6th lord Sani passes on the effect of Rahu to the

> third house through aspect. The thrid house is owned by 8th lord

> Mars. Also, the natural 3rd house is afflicted by Mars. As you

> have correctly said 8th house indicates chronic diseases.

>

> Of course, all these indications are true for 1st house as well.

> Then why cancer did not affect first house signification?

> Probably Mercury was able to protect first house significations

> being a benefic and having positioned in its own sign in

> Navamsha. But, its position in a dusthana in Rasi is a negative.

>

> I agree with your points on 9th lord in 12th and related

> explanation.

>

> I wish a speedy recovery for Uttara.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

September 4, 2007

Dear Krishna,

Stating the most obvious, both 4th lord Jupiter and 4th bhava are afflicted

by malefic aspect from Saturn and Mars who are (both) natural and functional

malefics in this chart.

As we know, physical development (tissue growth etc) is governed by Jupiter

who, when afflicted, can give rise to abnormal tissue development (tumors

etc).

Giving more weight to the malificence of Saturn's aspect is his

dispositorship of Rahu.

Note also that both Mars and Saturn own 12th from 4th and Jupiter

respectively whilst Mars, occupying nakshatra of Jupiter, further owns 12th

from Moon who governs (specifically) breasts, glands etc..

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

conclusions about her cancer?

Regards,

Krishna

September 4, 2007

Dear Wendy,

Thanks for the explanation. That was very clear. There was a

news item yesterday on an athlete who suffered from breast

cancer for 7 years - Jane Tomlinson. I only have her date of

birth and not the time. It would be interesting to look at this

chart to understand breast cancer better.

Jane Tomlin Son - Born on Feb. 21, 1964 in Wakefield, UK.

Apparently, this girl was told by her docters that she will live

only for next 6 months when they diagnosed her for breast

cancer. She went on to live successfully for next 7 years! I

believe she was even accused of faking cancer!

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishna,

>

> Stating the most obvious, both 4th lord Jupiter and 4th bhava

> are afflicted

> by malefic aspect from Saturn and Mars who are (both) natural

> and functional

> malefics in this chart.

>

> As we know, physical development (tissue growth etc) is

> governed by Jupiter

> who, when afflicted, can give rise to abnormal tissue

> development (tumors

> etc).

> Giving more weight to the malificence of Saturn's aspect is

> his

> dispositorship of Rahu.

>

> Note also that both Mars and Saturn own 12th from 4th and

> Jupiter

> respectively whilst Mars, occupying nakshatra of Jupiter,

> further owns 12th

> from Moon who governs (specifically) breasts, glands etc..

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

> conclusions about her cancer?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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September 5, 2007

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

I was going through this chart late night at 3.00am

(Or morning perhaps).Could not complete my assessment

as felt sleepy.

What little I wrote (which you completed).

in this chart, the 4th house as well

as the Sign Cancer has to be considered,

Now Saturn is already aspecting the Jupiter,

Jupiter is also aspecting the Natural

4th house ie. Cancer, as well as the Lord

of the 12th house,Sun seated in cancer.

Mars is aspecting the 4th house Sagittarius

and Mars is already aspected itself by Saturn.

Jupiter the planet for inflammation is aspecting

the Hot Sun,placed in the cold sign Cancer.

Cancer Sign for women depicts the natural

significations for breast.

(Just like for heart afflictions we consider

the 4th house in a chart as well as sign Leo)

Jupiter would carry the qualities of Saturn too.

Mars is also aspecting this Saturn.

The whole chart is dominated by Jupiter,Saturn

and Mars. Mars is also the 8th Lord, we have

to remember.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> Stating the most obvious, both 4th lord Jupiter and 4th bhava are

afflicted

> by malefic aspect from Saturn and Mars who are (both) natural and

functional

> malefics in this chart.

>

> As we know, physical development (tissue growth etc) is governed by

Jupiter

> who, when afflicted, can give rise to abnormal tissue development

(tumors

> etc).

> Giving more weight to the malificence of Saturn's aspect is his

> dispositorship of Rahu.

>

> Note also that both Mars and Saturn own 12th from 4th and Jupiter

> respectively whilst Mars, occupying nakshatra of Jupiter, further

owns 12th

> from Moon who governs (specifically) breasts, glands etc..

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

> conclusions about her cancer?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

September 5, 2007

Dear Krishna,

///It would be interesting to look at this

chart to understand breast cancer better.///

Unfortunately it would be difficult to make a proper study of the chart

without an accurate T.O.B.

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Contributing Factors:

Today, particularly in Western cultures, there has been a marked increase in

both breast cancer and diabetes. According to experts strong contributing

factors are wrong (processed) food and sedentary (inactive) lifestyle.

As we know, Jupiter (particularly in water signs) is a strong kapha planet,

and, as we also should know, kapha greatly benefits from exercise.

Unfortunately though, kapha types often have a tendency towards

procrastination which can throw this dosha out of balance increasing the

risk of such diseases as diabetes, tumors etc..

Partaking of wrong food and drink, another contributing factor, can be seen

from 2nd house and, as we know, karaka for 2nd is Jupiter. So, in a

nutshell, Jupiter himself (under certain conditions) can lead the native

towards the very lifestyle that contributes to these diseases.

Considering this, what is left of free will? Of course the society we live

in today is a big contributor to this dilemma with supermarket shelves

filled to overflowing with processed foods, soft drinks etc..

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:43 AM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Wendy,

Thanks for the explanation. That was very clear. There was a

news item yesterday on an athlete who suffered from breast

cancer for 7 years - Jane Tomlinson. I only have her date of

birth and not the time. It would be interesting to look at this

chart to understand breast cancer better.

Jane Tomlin Son - Born on Feb. 21, 1964 in Wakefield, UK.

Apparently, this girl was told by her docters that she will live

only for next 6 months when they diagnosed her for breast

cancer. She went on to live successfully for next 7 years! I

believe she was even accused of faking cancer!

Regards,

Krishna

September 5, 2007

Dear Bhaskar,

///Jupiter the planet for inflammation is aspecting...///

Is not inflammation per se more attributed to Mars? For instance

inflammatory diseases such as boils, pox, fevers, typhoid etc., are all

attributed to Mars.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:51 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

I was going through this chart late night at 3.00am

(Or morning perhaps).Could not complete my assessment

as felt sleepy.

What little I wrote (which you completed).

in this chart, the 4th house as well

as the Sign Cancer has to be considered,

Now Saturn is already aspecting the Jupiter,

Jupiter is also aspecting the Natural

4th house ie. Cancer, as well as the Lord

of the 12th house,Sun seated in cancer.

Mars is aspecting the 4th house Sagittarius

and Mars is already aspected itself by Saturn.

Jupiter the planet for inflammation is aspecting

the Hot Sun,placed in the cold sign Cancer.

Cancer Sign for women depicts the natural

significations for breast.

(Just like for heart afflictions we consider

the 4th house in a chart as well as sign Leo)

Jupiter would carry the qualities of Saturn too.

Mars is also aspecting this Saturn.

The whole chart is dominated by Jupiter,Saturn

and Mars. Mars is also the 8th Lord, we have

to remember.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> Stating the most obvious, both 4th lord Jupiter and 4th bhava are

afflicted

> by malefic aspect from Saturn and Mars who are (both) natural and

functional

> malefics in this chart.

>

> As we know, physical development (tissue growth etc) is governed by

Jupiter

> who, when afflicted, can give rise to abnormal tissue development

(tumors

> etc).

> Giving more weight to the malificence of Saturn's aspect is his

> dispositorship of Rahu.

>

> Note also that both Mars and Saturn own 12th from 4th and Jupiter

> respectively whilst Mars, occupying nakshatra of Jupiter, further

owns 12th

> from Moon who governs (specifically) breasts, glands etc..

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

> conclusions about her cancer?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

September 5, 2007

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

Probably I used the wrong word. By inflammation

I meant, inflammation of the tissue, enlargement

of the area in question, which Jupiter tends to

expand, as in malignancy.

What You have mentioned about Mars and inflammatory

diseases is absolutely right.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> ///Jupiter the planet for inflammation is aspecting...///

>

> Is not inflammation per se more attributed to Mars? For instance

> inflammatory diseases such as boils, pox, fevers, typhoid etc., are all

> attributed to Mars.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:51 PM

> Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

>

> Dear Mrs.Wendy,

>

> I was going through this chart late night at 3.00am

> (Or morning perhaps).Could not complete my assessment

> as felt sleepy.

> What little I wrote (which you completed).

> in this chart, the 4th house as well

> as the Sign Cancer has to be considered,

>

> Now Saturn is already aspecting the Jupiter,

> Jupiter is also aspecting the Natural

> 4th house ie. Cancer, as well as the Lord

> of the 12th house,Sun seated in cancer.

> Mars is aspecting the 4th house Sagittarius

> and Mars is already aspected itself by Saturn.

>

> Jupiter the planet for inflammation is aspecting

> the Hot Sun,placed in the cold sign Cancer.

> Cancer Sign for women depicts the natural

> significations for breast.

> (Just like for heart afflictions we consider

> the 4th house in a chart as well as sign Leo)

> Jupiter would carry the qualities of Saturn too.

> Mars is also aspecting this Saturn.

>

> The whole chart is dominated by Jupiter,Saturn

> and Mars. Mars is also the 8th Lord, we have

> to remember.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Krishna,

> >

> > Stating the most obvious, both 4th lord Jupiter and 4th bhava are

> afflicted

> > by malefic aspect from Saturn and Mars who are (both) natural and

> functional

> > malefics in this chart.

> >

> > As we know, physical development (tissue growth etc) is governed by

> Jupiter

> > who, when afflicted, can give rise to abnormal tissue development

> (tumors

> > etc).

> > Giving more weight to the malificence of Saturn's aspect is his

> > dispositorship of Rahu.

> >

> > Note also that both Mars and Saturn own 12th from 4th and Jupiter

> > respectively whilst Mars, occupying nakshatra of Jupiter, further

> owns 12th

> > from Moon who governs (specifically) breasts, glands etc..

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:45 PM

> > Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

> >

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > Considering 4th house representing chest/breast how do we draw

> > conclusions about her cancer?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

>

September 5, 2007

Dear Bhaskar,

///Probably I used the wrong word. By inflammation

I meant, inflammation of the tissue, enlargement

of the area in question, which Jupiter tends to

expand, as in malignancy.///

I do understand where your reasoning is coming from. However, malignant

growths (tumors etc) are not what we'd normally describe as an inflammatory

type disease.

Tumors (abnormal tissue development) are basically the result of some

mutation in tissue development (on the level of DNA) which interferes with

the cell's ability to regulate and limit cell division.

As per previous mail, there are certain (lifestyle) factors that can

contribute to such abnormalities and, in some types of cancers, certain

viruses can also contribute. For instance some herpes-type viruses are

considered to contribute to the onset of particular cancers. But whatever

the contributing factor it still amounts to abnormal tissue development

which is associated with kapha dosha.

Inflammation as such (signified by heat) is associated with the pitta dosha.

PS: Looking at Uttara's chart, it's not difficult to see that there are

other health problems for her besides the breast cancer that she's been

dealing with for the last 8-9 months or so.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

-

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:35 PM

Re: Reading of Uttara ji's chart

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

Probably I used the wrong word. By inflammation

I meant, inflammation of the tissue, enlargement

of the area in question, which Jupiter tends to

expand, as in malignancy.

What You have mentioned about Mars and inflammatory

diseases is absolutely right.

regards,

Bhaskar.

September 5, 2007

Mrs.Wendy,

" Tumor " is the word I am not able to remember since

last night. I think lack of sleep and other factors

are causing loss of cohesive memory, recollection and

retrieval.

Thanks for taking pains to explain and putting

me on the right track.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> ///Probably I used the wrong word. By inflammation

> I meant, inflammation of the tissue, enlargement

> of the area in question, which Jupiter tends to

> expand, as in malignancy.///

>

> I do understand where your reasoning is coming from. However, malignant

> growths (tumors etc) are not what we'd normally describe as an

inflammatory

> type disease.

> Tumors (abnormal tissue development) are basically the result of some

> mutation in tissue development (on the level of DNA) which

interferes with

> the cell's ability to regulate and limit cell division.

> As per previous mail, there are certain (lifestyle) factors that can

> contribute to such abnormalities and, in some types of cancers, certain

> viruses can also contribute. For instance some herpes-type viruses are

> considered to contribute to the onset of particular cancers. But

whatever

> the contributing factor it still amounts to abnormal tissue development

> which is associated with kapha dosha.

>

> Inflammation as such (signified by heat) is associated with the

pitta dosha.

>

> PS: Looking at Uttara's chart, it's not difficult to see that there are

> other health problems for her besides the breast cancer that she's been

> dealing with for the last 8-9 months or so.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy