Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 For the sake of others who may wish to participate, Thomas, since you have a specific case would it not make more sense to provide the data and the date of the stroke if known and then people can correlate with the chart, dasha, transits and discuss more precisely and specifically as opposed to provide general indications which may or may not fit in the specific situation. It would also clear hopefully if the planets or signs or vargas or nakshatras are better indicators and if the indicators match with the anatomical brain and the functional brain. There may be different astro-factors that describe those two very different things. Rohiniranjan jyotish-vidya , " talljun2 " <talljun2 wrote: > > Hello to all. > > If I may, I'd like to ask a question regarding planetary symbolism and > the human body. > > What planet can be taken to symbolize the human brain? Some say Moon, > others say Sun, still others suggest Mercury has a big role in brain > funcrtions. > > The reason behind the question is a friend has recently sustained what > the docators call and " infract " in his brain, affecting the speech > center. The doctors say the " infract " is an area of dead cell tissue, > the death being due to lack of oxygen/blood flow to that area of the > brain. > > Thank you all for considering my question. > > Best wishes, > > Thomas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Thomas, //What planet can be taken to symbolize the human brain? Some say Moon,others say Sun, still others suggest Mercury has a big role in brain functions.// As you will be knowing brain is the major decoding center of the body. Our emotions (moon)and energy levels ( sun) are set by means of minute electrical signals that travel through numerous nerves (Mercury)to the brain. So all three could be linked to brain. But in my understanding one planet that could be strongly linked to Brain would be Mercury; the reason being Brain is an aggregate of nervous tissue. When it comes to brain infarct we need to look into the causative factors.Firstly, at the level of blood vessels(jupiter); secondly, at the level of oxygenation (mars); thirdly, at the level of neurons viz the cells that form nerves (mercury)and lastly, at the level of blockage in neural signal transmission (disruption in flow of energy linked to Sun). Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Manasaa, How about saturn? Obstruction? Narrowing of passages? Turning off of the lifeline! Bible said: Only those shall enter Heaven who can pass through the eye of a needle! Not a Christian myself, though had my awareness raised in a school surrounded and supported by that faith, I always took that eye of the needle analogy as a beautiful metaphor for Saturn! RR jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > > Dear Thomas, > > //What planet can be taken to symbolize the human brain? Some say > Moon,others say Sun, still others suggest Mercury has a big role in > brain functions.// > > As you will be knowing brain is the major decoding center of the body. > Our emotions (moon)and energy levels ( sun) are set by means of minute > electrical signals that travel through numerous nerves (Mercury)to the > brain. So all three could be linked to brain. But in my understanding > one planet that could be strongly linked to Brain would be Mercury; > the reason being Brain is an aggregate of nervous tissue. > > When it comes to brain infarct we need to look into the causative > factors.Firstly, at the level of blood vessels(jupiter); secondly, at > the level of oxygenation (mars); thirdly, at the level of neurons viz > the cells that form nerves (mercury)and lastly, at the level of > blockage in neural signal transmission (disruption in flow of energy > linked to Sun). > > Regards, > Manasa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Thomas, Both 1st house and 1st sign (Aries) signify head/brain specifically. The specific graha is lagna karaka Sun. Arteries, veins, blood pressure are also governed by Sun...more information available here: (http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm) As suggested by Rohini, it would be good if you could offer the chart for further study. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " talljun2 " <talljun2 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:23 AM Hello and a question Hello to all. If I may, I'd like to ask a question regarding planetary symbolism and the human body. What planet can be taken to symbolize the human brain? Some say Moon, others say Sun, still others suggest Mercury has a big role in brain funcrtions. The reason behind the question is a friend has recently sustained what the docators call and " infract " in his brain, affecting the speech center. The doctors say the " infract " is an area of dead cell tissue, the death being due to lack of oxygen/blood flow to that area of the brain. Thank you all for considering my question. Best wishes, Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Rohiniji, Yeah! you are right.. Artherosclerotic changes, the most important cause for infarcts, could be linked to Saturn.. So is devitalisation (cell death).. I believe the very question asked by Thomas clearly explains how difficult it is to pinpoint one single planet as the sole culprit. All planets are intricately linked to one another to create a particular karmic response which could be decoded using principles of astrology.. Thank you for pointing out the missing link. Regards, Manasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Manasaa, So are we all in our collective wisdom going to let go the scapegoat of all times:Saturn/Shani Maharaaj, scott-free as the expression goes? .... jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Rohiniji, > > Yeah! you are right.. Artherosclerotic changes, the most important > cause for infarcts, could be linked to Saturn.. So is devitalisation > (cell death).. > > I believe the very question asked by Thomas clearly explains how > difficult it is to pinpoint one single planet as the sole > culprit. All planets are intricately linked to one another to create a > particular karmic response which could be decoded using principles of > astrology.. > > Thank you for pointing out the missing link. > > Regards, > Manasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear rohiniji, Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn is the biggest teacher of all. Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Manasa, Why is there so much faith in this karmic influence? Karma could be associated with what you have accepted yourself to be! If you decide to change your role and take on a new one, will Karma as you have known it so far change? Or not?? jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear rohiniji, > > Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is > under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma > begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function > of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a > significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to > other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark > side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn is > the biggest teacher of all. > > Regards, > Manasa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dear Rohiniji, Your question gets me back to the query I have started a few days back. I hope you agree with me in that our thoughts determine our actions. Now thoughts could arise at a conscious or subconscious level. Conscious thoughts are at our free will(voluntary) and subconscious thoughts(involuntary) are predetermined. That surely speaks of karmic influence in everyone's life.One could fold their hands , blink their eyes at free will, but what about heart beat..that is just not in our control One cannot hasten or slow down heart rate at their will.. Just as wendyji has pointed out earlier a strong 3rd house says about people who says they can change their fate. I guess you have that in your chart. jyotish-vidya , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Manasa, > > Why is there so much faith in this karmic influence? > > Karma could be associated with what you have accepted yourself to be! > > If you decide to change your role and take on a new one, will Karma as > you have known it so far change? Or not?? > > jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> > wrote: > > > > Dear rohiniji, > > > > Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is > > under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma > > begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function > > of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a > > significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to > > other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark > > side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn > is > > the biggest teacher of all. > > > > Regards, > > Manasa. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dear Manasa and Rohini, If I might offer a little here (quickly before I switch off for the day) to clarify the significance of 3rd house in respect to free will. As an example I have in mind the charts of two natives well known to me. Both have been very successful in life and both are convinced that their success is due entirely to their own efforts and has nothing to do with destiny. As fate would have it (pun intended) both have Rx Saturn in 3rd aspected by Mars. Saturn indicates discipline, endurance, persistence etc., whilst Mars shows energy, courage, ambition and force of character. Certainly these natives HAVE succeeded in life through their own efforts...no doubt of that! However this very characteristic is stamped in their cosmic blueprint and can be interpreted by the astrologer as one who will succeed in life through his own efforts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:18 PM Re: Hello and a question Dear Rohiniji, Your question gets me back to the query I have started a few days back. I hope you agree with me in that our thoughts determine our actions. Now thoughts could arise at a conscious or subconscious level. Conscious thoughts are at our free will(voluntary) and subconscious thoughts(involuntary) are predetermined. That surely speaks of karmic influence in everyone's life.One could fold their hands , blink their eyes at free will, but what about heart beat..that is just not in our control One cannot hasten or slow down heart rate at their will.. Just as wendyji has pointed out earlier a strong 3rd house says about people who says they can change their fate. I guess you have that in your chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 PS: Both these natives preach the same principle to anyone not succeeding as they have. They say (continually); " I've worked hard for what I've got! " and " If you put in the effort you reap the rewards " This is so true - for them - because this IS their destiny! _____ Dear Manasa and Rohini, If I might offer a little here (quickly before I switch off for the day) to clarify the significance of 3rd house in respect to free will. As an example I have in mind the charts of two natives well known to me. Both have been very successful in life and both are convinced that their success is due entirely to their own efforts and has nothing to do with destiny. As fate would have it (pun intended) both have Rx Saturn in 3rd aspected by Mars. Saturn indicates discipline, endurance, persistence etc., whilst Mars shows energy, courage, ambition and force of character. Certainly these natives HAVE succeeded in life through their own efforts...no doubt of that! However this very characteristic is stamped in their cosmic blueprint and can be interpreted by the astrologer as one who will succeed in life through his own efforts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Manasaa, I believe in there being an interplay between destiny and free-will. Without the latter astrology would only remain an intellectual curiosity. A nice to know but with no practical utility. This would be the case if everything were destined. Also, we must not ignore that jyotish has always given a lot of emphasis to muhurta, chosen moments to maximize success of an event or enterprise etc (electional astrology) and it has always recommended remedies of all kinds. Now people can interpret any which way they choose and see free will in destiny or destiny in free-will etc, I have no problem with that. Sometimes people misunderstand and think their entire life was created by efforts (self-made persons). I have see a few such individuals too but to an outsider it was obvious that opportunities were arising for them at critical moments (which they took up readily without wasting time). To me that was how life works in many cases: marriage between destiny and free-will. There can not be a one size that fits all, of course! Regards, RR jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > Your question gets me back to the query I have started a few days > back. I hope you agree with me in that our thoughts determine our > actions. Now thoughts could arise at a conscious or subconscious > level. Conscious thoughts are at our free will(voluntary) and > subconscious thoughts(involuntary) are predetermined. That surely > speaks of karmic influence in everyone's life.One could fold their > hands , blink their eyes at free will, but what about heart beat..that > is just not in our control One cannot hasten or slow down heart rate > at their will.. Just as wendyji has pointed out earlier a strong 3rd > house says about people who says they can change their fate. I guess > you have that in your chart. > > jyotish-vidya , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Manasa, > > > > Why is there so much faith in this karmic influence? > > > > Karma could be associated with what you have accepted yourself to be! > > > > If you decide to change your role and take on a new one, will Karma as > > you have known it so far change? Or not?? > > > > jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear rohiniji, > > > > > > Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is > > > under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma > > > begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function > > > of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a > > > significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to > > > other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark > > > side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn > > is > > > the biggest teacher of all. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manasa. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hello to all. Thank you for your responses. There is,however, a small problem in sharing the birth chart with the group; the person spoken of here does not have a recorded birth time as he was born at home and no one recorded a time of birth. So the exact house cusps are in doubt, and of course, the operating periods/sub-periods are also a matters which are questionable due to the lack of an accurate birth time. However, for the sake of clarity and to assist those who would like to pursue the matter further, I enclose the birth data as known by the subject and close with the day,date and time ( as best he remembers) of the event. The event itself was a stroke affecting the left side of the brain, resulting in paritial loss of speech and mild paralysis afflicting the right side of the body. One last note; at the time of the event, transiting Ketu was within a very tight transit orb of natal Mercury, posited in Leo. First, the birth data: September 17,1957 Wilson (wilson county) North Carolina USA 77w55 35n43 time zone 5 Eastern standard time was in effect during the birth The event occured on the day/time as follows: May 13 2007 approximately 5:45 PM Pacific Daylight time location Seattle Washington 122w20 47n36 time zone 8 daylight savings time in effect Again, thank you and best wishes to all. Sincerely, Thomas Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Thomas, Both 1st house and 1st sign (Aries) signify head/brain specifically. The specific graha is lagna karaka Sun. Arteries, veins, blood pressure are also governed by Sun...more information available here: (http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm) As suggested by Rohini, it would be good if you could offer the chart for further study. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " talljun2 " <talljun2 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:23 AM Hello and a question Hello to all. If I may, I'd like to ask a question regarding planetary symbolism and the human body. What planet can be taken to symbolize the human brain? Some say Moon, others say Sun, still others suggest Mercury has a big role in brain funcrtions. The reason behind the question is a friend has recently sustained what the docators call and " infract " in his brain, affecting the speech center. The doctors say the " infract " is an area of dead cell tissue, the death being due to lack of oxygen/blood flow to that area of the brain. Thank you all for considering my question. Best wishes, Thomas Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 So Manasaa, all spur-of-the moment, 'reflexive', knee jerk responses and impulsive actions must be *destined* because not much thought goes into those! The type of actions that happen in a " heart-beat " as well as in a blink of the eye! ;-) RR jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > Your question gets me back to the query I have started a few days > back. I hope you agree with me in that our thoughts determine our > actions. Now thoughts could arise at a conscious or subconscious > level. Conscious thoughts are at our free will(voluntary) and > subconscious thoughts(involuntary) are predetermined. That surely > speaks of karmic influence in everyone's life.One could fold their > hands , blink their eyes at free will, but what about heart beat..that > is just not in our control One cannot hasten or slow down heart rate > at their will.. Just as wendyji has pointed out earlier a strong 3rd > house says about people who says they can change their fate. I guess > you have that in your chart. > > jyotish-vidya , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Manasa, > > > > Why is there so much faith in this karmic influence? > > > > Karma could be associated with what you have accepted yourself to be! > > > > If you decide to change your role and take on a new one, will Karma as > > you have known it so far change? Or not?? > > > > jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear rohiniji, > > > > > > Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is > > > under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma > > > begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function > > > of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a > > > significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to > > > other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark > > > side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn > > is > > > the biggest teacher of all. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manasa. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dear RRji, //So Manasaa, all spur-of-the moment, 'reflexive', knee jerk responses and impulsive actions must be *destined* because not much thought goes into those!// Those actions are programmed at sub-conscious level. We are not conscious of it until it happens..hope u agree with me in that.. So aren't they *destined* to happen? Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dear Rohini, If I might add my thoughts on this... ///and it has always recommended remedies of all kinds./// Since the navagrahas are the dispensers of karma, it stands to reason that propitiation can bring (some) relief from difficult karma...we agree, I'm sure :-) Parashara tells us (BPHS Ch.84) http://jyotishvidya.com/ch84.htm *26-27. The Grah, who is the cause of adverse effects to a person at any time, should be handled by worship and appeasing, because Brahma has blessed the Grahas with the boon " Do good to the persons, who worship you " . And the development and progress and downfall of the people and the creation and destruction of the universe are all under the administration and authority of the Grahas. Therefore they are most venerable.* However, the ability/opportunity given to the native to benefit from remedial measures is also seen from horoscope. As I'm sure you know, 9th house governs such things as solutions to problems, remedies (medicine, yagya, tapas etc). If this house supports it, the native may be able to receive a good (horoscope) reading and benefit from remedial measures...otherwise not! It's a very small proportion of the world's population (India apart of course) that even accepts jyotish let alone be fortunate enough to receive (correct) remedial measures. ///Also, we must not ignore that jyotish has always given a lot of emphasis to muhurta, chosen moments to maximize success of an event or enterprise etc (electional astrology)/// http://www.enmag.org/06/6jyotish.htm *A Muhurta helps to avoid unnecessary obstacles and bring additional support of Nature. However it cannot neutralize unfavorable influences that may exist in our birth horoscope. When we begin any new and important enterprise, it is always advisable to have a Jyotish consultation in addition to the Muhurta. The consultation will help us to understand our overall chances for success. A Muhurta is not a remedial measure. If the time for the new activity is not favorable in our birth horoscope, as seen in its dasha periods and planetary transits, then we might need Yagya performances to help fulfill the purpose of the Muhurta.* Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:45 AM Re: Hello and a question Manasaa, I believe in there being an interplay between destiny and free-will. Without the latter astrology would only remain an intellectual curiosity. A nice to know but with no practical utility. This would be the case if everything were destined. Also, we must not ignore that jyotish has always given a lot of emphasis to muhurta, chosen moments to maximize success of an event or enterprise etc (electional astrology) and it has always recommended remedies of all kinds. Now people can interpret any which way they choose and see free will in destiny or destiny in free-will etc, I have no problem with that. Sometimes people misunderstand and think their entire life was created by efforts (self-made persons). I have see a few such individuals too but to an outsider it was obvious that opportunities were arising for them at critical moments (which they took up readily without wasting time). To me that was how life works in many cases: marriage between destiny and free-will. There can not be a one size that fits all, of course! Regards, RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dear Thomas, After a quick look at both natal and transit charts, I'm looking at a tentative T.O.B. around 6:00AM. With this time the operating dasa was SA-RA-KE... Natal Ketu occupies 8th house of accidental incidents etc., and was transited by lagna karaka Sun on day of stroke...Ketu himself was transiting lagna lord Mercury (in 12th) in sign of Leo. BTW (in my days of nursing) a stroke was referred to as a CVA (cerebral vascular accident)... This, of course, is a very, very tentative T.O.B. and would need to be verified/rectified by matching some significant details of the native's life. It would be good if you could supply some information in this regard. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " thomas allen " <talljun2 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:37 AM Re: Hello and a question Hello to all. Thank you for your responses. There is,however, a small problem in sharing the birth chart with the group; the person spoken of here does not have a recorded birth time as he was born at home and no one recorded a time of birth. So the exact house cusps are in doubt, and of course, the operating periods/sub-periods are also a matters which are questionable due to the lack of an accurate birth time. However, for the sake of clarity and to assist those who would like to pursue the matter further, I enclose the birth data as known by the subject and close with the day,date and time ( as best he remembers) of the event. The event itself was a stroke affecting the left side of the brain, resulting in paritial loss of speech and mild paralysis afflicting the right side of the body. One last note; at the time of the event, transiting Ketu was within a very tight transit orb of natal Mercury, posited in Leo. First, the birth data: September 17,1957 Wilson (wilson county) North Carolina USA 77w55 35n43 time zone 5 Eastern standard time was in effect during the birth The event occured on the day/time as follows: May 13 2007 approximately 5:45 PM Pacific Daylight time location Seattle Washington 122w20 47n36 time zone 8 daylight savings time in effect Again, thank you and best wishes to all. Sincerely, Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 BTW my software doesn't show DST for the date you provided? For 06:00AM I get Virgo rising 01:04:46 _______ Dear Thomas, After a quick look at both natal and transit charts, I'm looking at a tentative T.O.B. around 6:00AM. With this time the operating dasa was SA-RA-KE... Natal Ketu occupies 8th house of accidental incidents etc., and was transited by lagna karaka Sun on day of stroke...Ketu himself was transiting lagna lord Mercury (in 12th) in sign of Leo. BTW (in my days of nursing) a stroke was referred to as a CVA (cerebral vascular accident)... This, of course, is a very, very tentative T.O.B. and would need to be verified/rectified by matching some significant details of the native's life. It would be good if you could supply some information in this regard. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Whoops, my mistake :-( You had said Eastern standard time...Sorry! ________________________________ BTW my software doesn't show DST for the date you provided? For 06:00AM I get Virgo rising 01:04:46 _______ Dear Thomas, After a quick look at both natal and transit charts, I'm looking at a tentative T.O.B. around 6:00AM. With this time the operating dasa was SA-RA-KE... Natal Ketu occupies 8th house of accidental incidents etc., and was transited by lagna karaka Sun on day of stroke...Ketu himself was transiting lagna lord Mercury (in 12th) in sign of Leo. BTW (in my days of nursing) a stroke was referred to as a CVA (cerebral vascular accident)... This, of course, is a very, very tentative T.O.B. and would need to be verified/rectified by matching some significant details of the native's life. It would be good if you could supply some information in this regard. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 No dear Manasaa, I have never been known to be good at devotional beliefs and that reality! Best regards... jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > > Dear RRji, > > //So Manasaa, all spur-of-the moment, 'reflexive', knee jerk responses > and impulsive actions must be *destined* because not much thought > goes into those!// > > Those actions are programmed at sub-conscious level. We are not > conscious of it until it happens..hope u agree with me in that.. So > aren't they *destined* to happen? > > Regards, > Manasa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Wendyji and Rohiniji I also would like to state of a chart where Sani and Ketu are in 3rd house aspected by Moon from 9th house. The subject is organised, hardworking, courageous and has perseverance. But still believes in fate and Karma. savithri m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: Dear Rohiniji, Your question gets me back to the query I have started a few days back. I hope you agree with me in that our thoughts determine our actions. Now thoughts could arise at a conscious or subconscious level. Conscious thoughts are at our free will(voluntary) and subconscious thoughts(involuntary) are predetermined. That surely speaks of karmic influence in everyone's life.One could fold their hands , blink their eyes at free will, but what about heart beat..that is just not in our control One cannot hasten or slow down heart rate at their will.. Just as wendyji has pointed out earlier a strong 3rd house says about people who says they can change their fate. I guess you have that in your chart. jyotish-vidya , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Manasa, > > Why is there so much faith in this karmic influence? > > Karma could be associated with what you have accepted yourself to be! > > If you decide to change your role and take on a new one, will Karma as > you have known it so far change? Or not?? > > jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> > wrote: > > > > Dear rohiniji, > > > > Thanks for provoking my thoughts..I believe that everyone's life is > > under karmic influence.. " Good karma begets good results and Bad karma > > begets bad results " .. The effects of each karma is felt as a function > > of time, right.. Since Saturn represents kaala or time it does play a > > significant role in everyone's life..But our actions are linked to > > other planets too.. Each planet has its bright side and dark > > side,na..so why to make Saturn the scapegoat?..In my opinion, Saturn > is > > the biggest teacher of all. > > > > Regards, > > Manasa. > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Savithri, Is it possible to look at the chart? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " SAVITHRI MAHESH " <savithri_mahesh2000 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, February 18, 2008 4:37 PM Re: Re: Hello and a question Dear Wendyji and Rohiniji I also would like to state of a chart where Sani and Ketu are in 3rd house aspected by Moon from 9th house. The subject is organised, hardworking, courageous and has perseverance. But still believes in fate and Karma. savithri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Wendyji I am giving you the details and look forward to your views: 24 oct 1950 12.30 AM at coimbatore Tamilnadu regards savithri Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Savithri, Is it possible to look at the chart? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " SAVITHRI MAHESH " <savithri_mahesh2000 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, February 18, 2008 4:37 PM Re: Re: Hello and a question Dear Wendyji and Rohiniji I also would like to state of a chart where Sani and Ketu are in 3rd house aspected by Moon from 9th house. The subject is organised, hardworking, courageous and has perseverance. But still believes in fate and Karma. savithri Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Just to aid you to remember, Sat and Mars are in Lagna and Saturn aspects his own house the 3rd where Sun is placed in my case. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Wendyji and Rohiniji > > I also would like to state of a chart where Sani and Ketu are in 3rd house aspected by Moon from 9th house. The subject is organised, hardworking, courageous and has perseverance. But still believes in fate and Karma. > > savithri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Savithri, Thank You! Yes, in this chart 9th lord's dispositor (Saturn) occupies 3rd in company of Ketu who himself signifies hidden/secret knowledge. Lagnesh Moon aspects Saturn (from 9th) whilst 9th lord Jupiter aspects 3rd lord Mercury etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " SAVITHRI MAHESH " <savithri_mahesh2000 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, February 18, 2008 5:34 PM Re: Re: Hello and a question Dear Wendyji I am giving you the details and look forward to your views: 24 oct 1950 12.30 AM at coimbatore Tamilnadu regards savithri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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