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Gaurav napisa?(a):

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> ||Om Namaschandikaayai| |

> Dear Pratosh,

> 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness; Nothing

> else.

> 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt curses,

> badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look. Try

> to come out of that.Remember onething.... we are all cursed, thats

> why take birth again & again.

> 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No other

> classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in movable

> or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT FIXED

> ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> parasari.

> 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have any

> doubts.

> 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY. THEY

> ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort & if

> destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> Thanq,

>

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, " prathoshg " <prathoshg@. ..>

> wrote:

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> strength

> > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets strength i

> > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted sun

> can i

> > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can i

> assume

> > light curse??????? ????????? ??

> >

> >

> > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > General..... ....Then Surely we would Have known...That we made Bad

> > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now when

> this

> > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of Good

> or

> > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in old

> > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that our

> > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see Other

> > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> >

> >

> >

> > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and it

> will

> > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like saturn

> > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus related or

> > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > sorrow.????? ????????? ????

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> lagnalord in

> > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> see...bec

> > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> chart

> > means...over. ..that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th lord

> > means nija dosha....

> >

> > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent Than

> us

> > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology... ...in

> > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> Guidance in

> > Wrong Direction... and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary for

> > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not working

> even

> > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people like

> > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will become

> > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> heights

> > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like that

> can

> > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver or bus

> > driver this is ur fate........ ....whether can we reach That

> accuracy

> > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA???????? ????????? ???

> >

> >

> > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or even if

> > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.... .This even Sanjay

> ji

> > Knows very very well........ ...What is The explanation for These

> > Things....Take karunanidhi. ..a poltician he has Saturn in 8th from

> > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer lagna in

> > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he became

> 5th

> > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.. .....chanceless. ..all astrologers

> > proved wrong in this case....

> >

> > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer Like

> > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human beings

> and

> > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body except the

> > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE THIS

> WILL

> > HAPPEN...... ..100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY. ..NO BODY CAN

> > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > BRAHMA...... ......... .

> > HOPE U AGREE

> > THANKING U

> > PRATHOSH

> > ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

> >

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaurav

 

God Bless U

 

If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to astrologer for

help.

 

Gaurav here U are missing something.

 

In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give person accurate

vision and path of there life to reach their destinaion.

 

This I have done many times to help the people to reach their desired destiny

or used alternatives.

 

Prem Chopra

 

Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

||Jai Ramakrishna||

||Om Namaschandikaayai||

Dear Pratosh,

1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness; Nothing

else.

2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt curses,

badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look. Try

to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed, thats

why take birth again & again.

3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No other

classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in movable

or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT FIXED

ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

parasari.

5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have any

doubts.

6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY. THEY

ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort & if

destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

Thanq,

 

 

vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg

wrote:

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

strength

> of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets strength i

> mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted sun

can i

> assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can i

assume

> light curse??????????????????

>

>

> 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made Bad

> karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now when

this

> rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of Good

or

> Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in old

> age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that our

> human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see Other

> curses....like brahmin etc etc....

>

>

>

> 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and it

will

> fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like saturn

> wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus related or

> mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> sorrow.??????????????????

>

>

>

> 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

lagnalord in

> so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

see...bec

> if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

chart

> means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th lord

> means nija dosha....

>

> 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent Than

us

> if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

Guidance in

> Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary for

> removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not working

even

> 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people like

> ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will become

> ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

heights

> only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like that

can

> we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver or bus

> driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

accuracy

> is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

>

>

> 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or even if

> horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even Sanjay

ji

> Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for These

> Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th from

> arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer lagna in

> thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he became

5th

> C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all astrologers

> proved wrong in this case....

>

> So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer Like

> B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human beings

and

> only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body except the

> creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE THIS

WILL

> HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> BRAHMA................

> HOPE U AGREE

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Gaurav

 

God bless U

 

First Tell Me have U seen God in real yet some time U R so sure that only

almighty is save U. If U Believe that then why astrologer can't change the

destiny. Don't U think so that God him self send him to save his time money

labour to reach their Goal.

 

May Be some astrologer want money to help them. Do U Call it a SIN.

 

They are only asking and accepting what they need for running Life.

 

I think all person must grant them.

 

Prem Chopra

 

 

Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Mr. Pram,

So, God is the inbox, astrologer is the password & who is the user

id??The person who consults the astrologer???

Frm time to time i say, ASTROLOGER CANNOT CHANGE THE DESTINY!!THEY

CAN MERELY SHOW THE PATH...IF THEY SEE YOU FALLING IN A PIT...WILL

JUST WARN YOU...BUT CAN THEY CHANGE THE PATH????THEY CAN SAY WHAT

REMEDIAL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW(OBVIOUSLY NON-COMMERCIAL!!).

IF THE ASTROLOGERS SAY THEY CAN ,THEY ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING

PEOPLE.

THANQ,

GAURAV GHOSH

 

vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav

>

> God Bless U

>

> If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to

astrologer for help.

>

> Gaurav here U are missing something.

>

> In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give

person accurate vision and path of there life to reach their

destinaion.

>

> This I have done many times to help the people to reach their

desired destiny or used alternatives.

>

> Prem Chopra

>

> Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> ||Om Namaschandikaayai||

> Dear Pratosh,

> 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness;

Nothing

> else.

> 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt curses,

> badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look. Try

> to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed, thats

> why take birth again & again.

> 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No other

> classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in

movable

> or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT

FIXED

> ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> parasari.

> 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have any

> doubts.

> 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY. THEY

> ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort & if

> destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> Thanq,

>

>

> vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

> wrote:

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> strength

> > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets

strength i

> > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted sun

> can i

> > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can i

> assume

> > light curse??????????????????

> >

> >

> > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made

Bad

> > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now when

> this

> > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of

Good

> or

> > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in

old

> > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that

our

> > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see Other

> > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> >

> >

> >

> > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and it

> will

> > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like saturn

> > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus related

or

> > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > sorrow.??????????????????

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> lagnalord in

> > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> see...bec

> > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> chart

> > means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th

lord

> > means nija dosha....

> >

> > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent

Than

> us

> > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> Guidance in

> > Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary for

> > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not

working

> even

> > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people like

> > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will become

> > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> heights

> > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like

that

> can

> > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver or

bus

> > driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

> accuracy

> > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

> >

> >

> > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or even

if

> > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even

Sanjay

> ji

> > Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for These

> > Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th

from

> > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer lagna

in

> > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he

became

> 5th

> > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all astrologers

> > proved wrong in this case....

> >

> > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer

Like

> > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human

beings

> and

> > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body except

the

> > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE

THIS

> WILL

> > HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > BRAHMA................

> > HOPE U AGREE

> > THANKING U

> > PRATHOSH

> > ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

> >

>

>

 

> Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaurav

 

God bless U

 

OK take it like this if Someone came to me for success in Examination well

before exams what will U tell him. How would U work to judge the query although

he is paying U much than U think like U think 50inr but He is giving u 5000inr

and request please help me to achieve Highest marks in exam.

 

It is for all Astrologers Please analyse and tell me what to do.

 

Gaurav U will get the my answer through all group members.

 

Prem Chopra

Astro-Spiritual Master

 

 

Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Mr.Pram,

Yes...if the person has luck, God will send a true astrologer for

the suffering native;if the native is not lucky to have true

astrologers, God will send cheaters in form of astrologers!!

Yes, i understand that for many astrologers, Astrology is a source

of living; i am not telling that it is a sin. You are earning your

own livelihood, who will stop u frm that??

But what abt false promises & taking money like dacoits??I have

heard astrologers changing planetary positions in the birth chart &

also assuring changing the destiny.It is not sin:BUT CHEATING!!

I hope you understand wut i mean to say!!

Thanq,

 

 

vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav

>

> God bless U

>

> First Tell Me have U seen God in real yet some time U R so sure

that only almighty is save U. If U Believe that then why astrologer

can't change the destiny. Don't U think so that God him self send

him to save his time money labour to reach their Goal.

>

> May Be some astrologer want money to help them. Do U Call it a

SIN.

>

> They are only asking and accepting what they need for running

Life.

>

> I think all person must grant them.

>

> Prem Chopra

>

>

> Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Mr. Pram,

> So, God is the inbox, astrologer is the password & who is the user

> id??The person who consults the astrologer???

> Frm time to time i say, ASTROLOGER CANNOT CHANGE THE DESTINY!!THEY

> CAN MERELY SHOW THE PATH...IF THEY SEE YOU FALLING IN A PIT...WILL

> JUST WARN YOU...BUT CAN THEY CHANGE THE PATH????THEY CAN SAY WHAT

> REMEDIAL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW(OBVIOUSLY NON-COMMERCIAL!!).

> IF THE ASTROLOGERS SAY THEY CAN ,THEY ARE DOING NOTHING BUT

CHEATING

> PEOPLE.

> THANQ,

> GAURAV GHOSH

>

> vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

> <pramchopra1964@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to

> astrologer for help.

> >

> > Gaurav here U are missing something.

> >

> > In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give

> person accurate vision and path of there life to reach their

> destinaion.

> >

> > This I have done many times to help the people to reach their

> desired destiny or used alternatives.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > ||Om Namaschandikaayai||

> > Dear Pratosh,

> > 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> > various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> > Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness;

> Nothing

> > else.

> > 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt

curses,

> > badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look.

Try

> > to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed,

thats

> > why take birth again & again.

> > 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No

other

> > classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in

> movable

> > or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT

> FIXED

> > ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> > 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> > parasari.

> > 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have

any

> > doubts.

> > 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY.

THEY

> > ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort &

if

> > destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> > Thanq,

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> > strength

> > > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets

> strength i

> > > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted

sun

> > can i

> > > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can

i

> > assume

> > > light curse??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > > General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made

> Bad

> > > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now

when

> > this

> > > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of

> Good

> > or

> > > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in

> old

> > > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that

> our

> > > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see

Other

> > > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and

it

> > will

> > > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like

saturn

> > > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus

related

> or

> > > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > > sorrow.??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> > lagnalord in

> > > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> > see...bec

> > > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> > chart

> > > means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th

> lord

> > > means nija dosha....

> > >

> > > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent

> Than

> > us

> > > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> > > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> > Guidance in

> > > Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary

for

> > > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not

> working

> > even

> > > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people

like

> > > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will

become

> > > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> > heights

> > > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like

> that

> > can

> > > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver

or

> bus

> > > driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

> > accuracy

> > > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or

even

> if

> > > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even

> Sanjay

> > ji

> > > Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for

These

> > > Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th

> from

> > > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer

lagna

> in

> > > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he

> became

> > 5th

> > > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all

astrologers

> > > proved wrong in this case....

> > >

> > > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer

> Like

> > > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human

> beings

> > and

> > > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body

except

> the

> > > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE

> THIS

> > WILL

> > > HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> > > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > > BRAHMA................

> > > HOPE U AGREE

> > > THANKING U

> > > PRATHOSH

> > > ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> > always stay connected to friends.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear prem chopra ji,

Namesta ji i wanted to say that astrology r like

doctor give treatments and rest is felt on ALMIGHTY they can only give

remdies wit no guarantee that can solve the problem if u say astrology can

solve problem then there wont have any suffering in this earth all would had

run to astrology insted of doctor and y astrology is called science cause as

science does not have perfect medicine so they keep reserch of the perfect

remedies of patients sir

 

Thanxs Mohit

 

 

> " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>[vedic astrology] Re: To Rafal ji Thanks and still more AND ALL

>MEMBERS COMMENT IN THIS

>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:05:55 -0000

>

>||Jai Ramakrishna||

>Dear Mr. Pram,

>So, God is the inbox, astrologer is the password & who is the user

>id??The person who consults the astrologer???

>Frm time to time i say, ASTROLOGER CANNOT CHANGE THE DESTINY!!THEY

>CAN MERELY SHOW THE PATH...IF THEY SEE YOU FALLING IN A PIT...WILL

>JUST WARN YOU...BUT CAN THEY CHANGE THE PATH????THEY CAN SAY WHAT

>REMEDIAL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW(OBVIOUSLY NON-COMMERCIAL!!).

>IF THE ASTROLOGERS SAY THEY CAN ,THEY ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING

>PEOPLE.

>THANQ,

>GAURAV GHOSH

>

>

>

>vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

><pramchopra1964 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to

>astrologer for help.

> >

> > Gaurav here U are missing something.

> >

> > In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give

>person accurate vision and path of there life to reach their

>destinaion.

> >

> > This I have done many times to help the people to reach their

>desired destiny or used alternatives.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > ||Om Namaschandikaayai||

> > Dear Pratosh,

> > 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> > various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> > Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness;

>Nothing

> > else.

> > 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt curses,

> > badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look. Try

> > to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed, thats

> > why take birth again & again.

> > 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No other

> > classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in

>movable

> > or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT

>FIXED

> > ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> > 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> > parasari.

> > 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have any

> > doubts.

> > 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY. THEY

> > ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort & if

> > destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> > Thanq,

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> > strength

> > > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets

>strength i

> > > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted sun

> > can i

> > > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can i

> > assume

> > > light curse??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > > General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made

>Bad

> > > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now when

> > this

> > > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of

>Good

> > or

> > > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in

>old

> > > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that

>our

> > > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see Other

> > > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and it

> > will

> > > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like saturn

> > > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus related

>or

> > > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > > sorrow.??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> > lagnalord in

> > > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> > see...bec

> > > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> > chart

> > > means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th

>lord

> > > means nija dosha....

> > >

> > > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent

>Than

> > us

> > > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> > > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> > Guidance in

> > > Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary for

> > > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not

>working

> > even

> > > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people like

> > > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will become

> > > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> > heights

> > > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like

>that

> > can

> > > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver or

>bus

> > > driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

> > accuracy

> > > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or even

>if

> > > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even

>Sanjay

> > ji

> > > Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for These

> > > Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th

>from

> > > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer lagna

>in

> > > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he

>became

> > 5th

> > > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all astrologers

> > > proved wrong in this case....

> > >

> > > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer

>Like

> > > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human

>beings

> > and

> > > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body except

>the

> > > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE

>THIS

> > WILL

> > > HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> > > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > > BRAHMA................

> > > HOPE U AGREE

> > > THANKING U

> > > PRATHOSH

> > > ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> > always stay connected to friends.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mohit

 

God Bless U

 

All have there destined path to do We are telling only what you should not

feel if failure are there than there have to be success.

 

We are just forwarding Do's and Don'ts so that you can match with your

destiny.

 

We are just helpers to cooperation of your fate which is already written in

the heavens.

 

If There is a will there is a way but only for those who seek it.

 

If someone says nobody can change my fate. Than just tell me who can help

him.

 

My main motto is " What Matter Most is How You See Yourself. "

 

Prem Chopra

Astro-Spiritual Master

www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

 

 

mohit virmani <mohitvirmani wrote:

Dear prem chopra ji,

Namesta ji i wanted to say that astrology r like

doctor give treatments and rest is felt on ALMIGHTY they can only give

remdies wit no guarantee that can solve the problem if u say astrology can

solve problem then there wont have any suffering in this earth all would had

run to astrology insted of doctor and y astrology is called science cause as

science does not have perfect medicine so they keep reserch of the perfect

remedies of patients sir

 

Thanxs Mohit

 

> " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>[vedic astrology] Re: To Rafal ji Thanks and still more AND ALL

>MEMBERS COMMENT IN THIS

>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:05:55 -0000

>

>||Jai Ramakrishna||

>Dear Mr. Pram,

>So, God is the inbox, astrologer is the password & who is the user

>id??The person who consults the astrologer???

>Frm time to time i say, ASTROLOGER CANNOT CHANGE THE DESTINY!!THEY

>CAN MERELY SHOW THE PATH...IF THEY SEE YOU FALLING IN A PIT...WILL

>JUST WARN YOU...BUT CAN THEY CHANGE THE PATH????THEY CAN SAY WHAT

>REMEDIAL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW(OBVIOUSLY NON-COMMERCIAL!!).

>IF THE ASTROLOGERS SAY THEY CAN ,THEY ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING

>PEOPLE.

>THANQ,

>GAURAV GHOSH

>

>

>

>vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

><pramchopra1964 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to

>astrologer for help.

> >

> > Gaurav here U are missing something.

> >

> > In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give

>person accurate vision and path of there life to reach their

>destinaion.

> >

> > This I have done many times to help the people to reach their

>desired destiny or used alternatives.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > ||Om Namaschandikaayai||

> > Dear Pratosh,

> > 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> > various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> > Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness;

>Nothing

> > else.

> > 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt curses,

> > badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look. Try

> > to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed, thats

> > why take birth again & again.

> > 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No other

> > classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in

>movable

> > or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT

>FIXED

> > ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> > 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> > parasari.

> > 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have any

> > doubts.

> > 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY. THEY

> > ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort & if

> > destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> > Thanq,

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> > strength

> > > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets

>strength i

> > > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted sun

> > can i

> > > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can i

> > assume

> > > light curse??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > > General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made

>Bad

> > > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now when

> > this

> > > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of

>Good

> > or

> > > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in

>old

> > > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that

>our

> > > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see Other

> > > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and it

> > will

> > > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like saturn

> > > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus related

>or

> > > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > > sorrow.??????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> > lagnalord in

> > > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> > see...bec

> > > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> > chart

> > > means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th

>lord

> > > means nija dosha....

> > >

> > > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent

>Than

> > us

> > > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> > > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> > Guidance in

> > > Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary for

> > > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not

>working

> > even

> > > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people like

> > > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will become

> > > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> > heights

> > > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like

>that

> > can

> > > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver or

>bus

> > > driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

> > accuracy

> > > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

> > >

> > >

> > > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or even

>if

> > > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even

>Sanjay

> > ji

> > > Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for These

> > > Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th

>from

> > > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer lagna

>in

> > > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he

>became

> > 5th

> > > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all astrologers

> > > proved wrong in this case....

> > >

> > > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer

>Like

> > > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human

>beings

> > and

> > > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body except

>the

> > > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE

>THIS

> > WILL

> > > HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> > > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > > BRAHMA................

> > > HOPE U AGREE

> > > THANKING U

> > > PRATHOSH

> > > ALL MEMBERS CAN COMMENT

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> > always stay connected to friends.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

i think we are all missing the point.

 

I have taken my car and started for bangalore from hyderabad. since it was

the first time i am going, i have consulted my friend who has the knowledge

of the route.

 

could my friend change my car? no.

 

could he change the route? no

 

could he improve my driving skills?? absolutely no

 

Yet he was useful... he advised me where i could get wonderful food, he told

me where i should check for my fuel since there was no bunk for miles to

come,,, he pointed out to me where there could be some problems with the

road.. he cautioned me at places which are dacoit prone.....

 

astrologer too can not change many things but he can make a lot more

difference than if one does meet an astrologer.

 

 

I hope i have driven the point home.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

On 08 Apr 2007 21:50:05 -0700, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav

>

> God bless U

>

> OK take it like this if Someone came to me for success in Examination well

> before exams what will U tell him. How would U work to judge the query

> although he is paying U much than U think like U think 50inr but He is

> giving u 5000inr and request please help me to achieve Highest marks in

> exam.

>

> It is for all Astrologers Please analyse and tell me what to do.

>

> Gaurav U will get the my answer through all group members.

>

> Prem Chopra

> Astro-Spiritual Master

>

>

> Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh <gaurav.ghosh%40>> wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Mr.Pram,

> Yes...if the person has luck, God will send a true astrologer for

> the suffering native;if the native is not lucky to have true

> astrologers, God will send cheaters in form of astrologers!!

> Yes, i understand that for many astrologers, Astrology is a source

> of living; i am not telling that it is a sin. You are earning your

> own livelihood, who will stop u frm that??

> But what abt false promises & taking money like dacoits??I have

> heard astrologers changing planetary positions in the birth chart &

> also assuring changing the destiny.It is not sin:BUT CHEATING!!

> I hope you understand wut i mean to say!!

> Thanq,

>

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> Pram Chopra

> <pramchopra1964 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav

> >

> > God bless U

> >

> > First Tell Me have U seen God in real yet some time U R so sure

> that only almighty is save U. If U Believe that then why astrologer

> can't change the destiny. Don't U think so that God him self send

> him to save his time money labour to reach their Goal.

> >

> > May Be some astrologer want money to help them. Do U Call it a

> SIN.

> >

> > They are only asking and accepting what they need for running

> Life.

> >

> > I think all person must grant them.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> >

> > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Mr. Pram,

> > So, God is the inbox, astrologer is the password & who is the user

> > id??The person who consults the astrologer???

> > Frm time to time i say, ASTROLOGER CANNOT CHANGE THE DESTINY!!THEY

> > CAN MERELY SHOW THE PATH...IF THEY SEE YOU FALLING IN A PIT...WILL

> > JUST WARN YOU...BUT CAN THEY CHANGE THE PATH????THEY CAN SAY WHAT

> > REMEDIAL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW(OBVIOUSLY NON-COMMERCIAL!!).

> > IF THE ASTROLOGERS SAY THEY CAN ,THEY ARE DOING NOTHING BUT

> CHEATING

> > PEOPLE.

> > THANQ,

> > GAURAV GHOSH

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> Pram Chopra

> > <pramchopra1964@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gaurav

> > >

> > > God Bless U

> > >

> > > If Astrologer can't do any thing then why should they come to

> > astrologer for help.

> > >

> > > Gaurav here U are missing something.

> > >

> > > In my opinion Astrologers are the password of the God to give

> > person accurate vision and path of there life to reach their

> > destinaion.

> > >

> > > This I have done many times to help the people to reach their

> > desired destiny or used alternatives.

> > >

> > > Prem Chopra

> > >

> > > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > ||Om Namaschandikaayai||

> > > Dear Pratosh,

> > > 1)When you mentioned about Brahmin curse, i checked with BPHS &

> > > various editions i have, found nowhere..what is the source???

> > > Parasara talks about curses, limited to only childlessness;

> > Nothing

> > > else.

> > > 2)Dont have a fatalistic look on charts, only talking abt

> curses,

> > > badhaks & argalas; needless to say some people have this look.

> Try

> > > to come out of that.Remember onething....we are all cursed,

> thats

> > > why take birth again & again.

> > > 3)As per my limited Knowledge, only BPHS talks of curses. No

> other

> > > classics. BPHS doesnot even talk abt curses taking place in

> > movable

> > > or fixed Navamsha...rather i shld SAY NOT FIXED NAVAMSHA, BUT

> > FIXED

> > > ASTROLOGY, LIKE CRICKET.

> > > 4)Where do u find this curse???I think its cooked with Jaimini &

> > > parasari.

> > > 5)Read Gita to understand Karma. If u read, you will not have

> any

> > > doubts.

> > > 6)ASTROLOGERS ARE NOT GODS. THEY CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DESTINY.

> THEY

> > > ARE JUST FUTURE-TELLERS. IF U HAVE POTENTIAL put your effort &

> if

> > > destiny is there to help with grace of god, u can do well!!

> > > Thanq,

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > My Queries

> > > >

> > > > 1.Take a Brahmin curse Jupiter with Sun and mars now to see

> > > strength

> > > > of this curse we shd see Jupiter strength or the Planets

> > strength i

> > > > mean mars and sun now if this jup is afflicted with exalted

> sun

> > > can i

> > > > assume strong curse and jupiter afflicted with neecha sun can

> i

> > > assume

> > > > light curse??????????????????

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2.Human Birth Itself is a Big Suffering and Big Curses....in

> > > > General.........Then Surely we would Have known...That we made

> > Bad

> > > > karma so god according to our karma...sent us down......now

> when

> > > this

> > > > rebirth itslf is Big curse....and all People Irresepective of

> > Good

> > > or

> > > > Bad horo...suffers somehow whether in childhood or adult or in

> > old

> > > > age.......None can escape This 3 ......Now when we know...that

> > our

> > > > human birth itself is a curse...then why do we have to see

> Other

> > > > curses....like brahmin etc etc....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 3.If The Curse Happens in Movable Sign in Navamsa means ok its

> > > > easy...if it happens in fixed means...curse is very diff and

> it

> > > will

> > > > fructify as per sanjays lecture.....

> > > > Though its good to clear our Karma...what we have done in Past

> > > > lives.....will anybody in world will like for sorrow like

> saturn

> > > > wants......Most People in World prefer for either venus

> related

> > or

> > > > mercury related...will anybody will come and ask Pls Give me

> > > > sorrow.??????????????????

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 4.if we start seeing curse in a chart then all Yogas like

> > > lagnalord in

> > > > so and so houses or 2nd lord in so and so....we don need to

> > > see...bec

> > > > if 1 planet afficted by 2 malefics...is curse...so 3 curses in

> > > chart

> > > > means...over...that too if connected with AK WE Suffer and 8th

> > lord

> > > > means nija dosha....

> > > >

> > > > 5.If EveryThing is Karma...and Karma is Very Very Intelligent

> > Than

> > > us

> > > > if we Take 10 or 20 Steps to remove by seeing astrology......in

> > > > remedies...if we r self having Bad time...karma will take

> > > Guidance in

> > > > Wrong Direction...and so i Feel Gods Grace is 100% Necessary

> for

> > > > removing all curses...but in reality we see astrology not

> > working

> > > even

> > > > 50% are we able to predict like those who r born like people

> like

> > > > ambani infosys naryana murthy bill gates etc as they will

> become

> > > > ambani bill gates etc etc etc but after they came to That Much

> > > heights

> > > > only astrology is taking excuses as 5th lord in 5th with Gk and

> > > > pk.....so bill gates he became...and ambani he became...like

> > that

> > > can

> > > > we predict exactly so and so time...he ll become auto driver

> or

> > bus

> > > > driver this is ur fate............whether can we reach That

> > > accuracy

> > > > is that POSSIBLE IN KALI YUGA????????????????????

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 6.ALSO Now we can see in reality even if there is curses or

> even

> > if

> > > > horo is bad.....it happens sometimes Opposite.....This even

> > Sanjay

> > > ji

> > > > Knows very very well...........What is The explanation for

> These

> > > > Things....Take karunanidhi...a poltician he has Saturn in 8th

> > from

> > > > arudha lagna and 4th exalted and retro saturn from cancer

> lagna

> > in

> > > > thula....how come During ketu Bhukti and mercury antara he

> > became

> > > 5th

> > > > C.M if u go as per Vimsottari.......chanceless...all

> astrologers

> > > > proved wrong in this case....

> > > >

> > > > So What i wanted to convey is Whether he be a Great astrologer

> > Like

> > > > B.v Raman or Sanjay Rath or K.n Roa....They are also Human

> > beings

> > > and

> > > > only they can indicate what Might Happen.....and no body

> except

> > the

> > > > creator Lord Brahma can say 100% PRATHOSH THIS IS UR FURTURE

> > THIS

> > > WILL

> > > > HAPPEN........100% I CAN PROMISE U WHOLEHEARTEDLY...NO BODY CAN

> > > > SAY........IF HE PREDICTS LIKE THAT....HE WILL BE THE NEXT

> > > > BRAHMA................

> > > > HOPE U AGREE

> > > > THANKING U

> > > > PRATHOSH

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