Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Dear Umeshji, 1.You are right about the dfinition of Navamsa...but that makes your case worse,as far as the accuracy in predictions of Navamsa is concerned.(I gave up traditional astrology long years ago) 2.The rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa can be found in the 2004 Annual Issue of the Magazine, " K.P. & Astrology Pp 63-70, explained in a simple lamguage by the late Pt. Keshub Ranjan Kar... I shall have the article scanned and mail it to you...pl. send me your e-mail ID,or residential address. 3.From whatever you have written about K.P., Gulbarga method etc.,clearly shows that you have not updated yourself on the recent research(last 10-15 yrs.)...Hardly any K.P. follower uses this method any longer... 4.You say there were " contradictions " in whatever I have written about Karma and astrology...Could you spell them out ? 5.Details about my Birth date etc are given,as you have requested for them... DOB - 20-10-1939. POB - MUMBAI TOB - 12-20-00 hrs. As per Traditional Astrology,I am told that there are a lot of powerful Raja Yogas present...for example : i) Hamsa Yoga ii) Parijata Yoga iii) Two Neechabhanga Raja Yogas,by Sun & Saturn respectively... iv) Venus is Xth in own house...also causing a Raja Yoga v) Exalted Mars conjoined with Moon... And so on... Yesterday afternoon,on a TV Channel, a Traditional Astrologer did predict about the past births of a few jatakas... however K.P., can tell about both past as well as future Births... Your comment about a hole in the boat would have been valid if you had,indeed,traveloled in the boat yourself... The accuracy of predictions made by using K.P.,has become famous now,allover the world even in the USA,Europe etc...and in India itself more and more " traditional astrologers " have begun switching to K.P. now... Newer and newer shortcut methods are being published by students of Guruji Jyotish Marthand,late K.S.Krishnamurthiji these days regularly...Today many astrologers have begun to use the sub-sub and even the sub-sub-sub to give extremely accurate predictions... even to the very hour of the event taking place... K.P. is a LIVING SCIENCE today...GROWING and DEVELOPING EVRY DAY... After having heard a lot of " stories " about Lal Kitab and that there are many different versions etc.,and with the total lack of knowledge of Urdu/Persian,my age,and my distrust of English translations...and that LK is more abot " totkas " and " Upayas " ,which I have absolutely NO belief in...I think I do not wish to learn about Lal Kitab...any longer..allow me to wish ALL followers/experts of Lal Kitab,the very best of LUCK ! L.Y.Rao. > > > Dear Mr. Rao > > PLZ READ MY VIEWS IN CAPITAL LETTERS BELOW YOUR ANSWERS. > > > > Dear Umeshji, > > Pehle aapke prashnon ka jawaab dunga... > > 1) Sub division ka sidhdhant kafi research ke baad hi > > aaya hain...Ek Nakshtra 13* 20' lambayee(length)tak hota > > hai...Traditional astrologers ne us 13*20' ko 9 EQUAL divisions me > > baata tha jisko Navaunsh kehte the...magar Krishnamurthiji ne us me > > bahut sari Khaamiyan payi,unhone adyayan karke,is divisin ko equal se > > badal kar 9 divisions ko har planet ke Dasha ke anusar > > proportionately bhaga... > > ANS:- NAVANSHA IS THE 9TH DIVISION/PART OF THE RASHI NOT OF THE > NAKSHTRA. > > YEH UNKA PEHLA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 2) Adhayan ke baad unhone paya ki bahut bar,ek graha jo > > trikon men swagrahi baitha hai,Dasa/Bhkti/Anthara/sookshma > > me Kharab results deta hai...Is ke adhyayan bhi kiya gaya aur paya > > gaya ki kisi graha ka sub-lord hi nischit karta hai ki woh achcha ya > > kharab effects deyga...the sub-lord decides... > > ANS:- FIRST OF ALL, MY QUESTION IS WHICH DASHA SYSTEM YOU APPLY. IF YOU > APPLY VIMSHOTTRI THAN WHY? WHAT PRINCIPLE USE TO ALLOTMENT THE YEARS TO > PLANETS. AS SUN-6YEARS, MOON-10YEARS ETC.? > > YEH UNKA DOOSRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 3) Jo doosre divisions ka baat jo aap ne likkha hain,K.P. unko nahi > > maanta hai...! > > ANS: OK. > > 4) 249 hi kyon divisions hai ? > > Kyon ki 27 nakshatra ko K.P. ke bhaga jaay to > > totally zodiac men 249 different divisions bante hai... > > Horary Astrology men,is tharah 249 lagna ka > > possibility hai...Kafi Adhyayan ke baad,yeh bhi paaya hai ki,koi ek > > vyakti ek hi prashna ke liye doosra number detaa hai TO BHI RESULT > > NAHI BADALTA HAI...Aap khud ispe adyayan kar saten hai...maine khud > > bahut adhyayan kiya kyon ki mujhe yeh baat patthi nahi thi...magar > > yeh baat SAHI NIKLI... ! > > ANS: WHICH PRINCIPLE USED TO MAKE THIS DIVISION? BECAUSE IF YOU > MULTIPLYTO 27 NAKASHTRAS WITH 9TH THAN 27X9=243, IF WE TAKE 28 NAKSHTRA > THAN 28X9=253, THAN HOW 249.? > > YEH UNKA TEESRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 5) Gaur karne ki baat yeh hain ki is 249 numbers se > > aap koi bhi prashna,Prashna Kundali se koi bhi sawal ka achuk uttar > > diya ja sakta hain... > > ANS: BUT SIR, FIRST OF ALL, WE DECIDED THAT THIS DIVISION IS PRINCIPLLY > RIGHT?IF YOU SAY IT IS RIGHT THAN PLZ EXPLAIN THE PRINCIPLE. > > YEH UNKA CHAUTHA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > YEH EK UNIVERSAL JOKER BHI HAI... > > KAHI BHI FIT HOTA HAI. > > 6) Is SHODH ke aadhar par,bahut se logon ke common > > sawaal ka uttar accurately diya ja sakta hai...jaise ki : > > a) Mujhe naukri kab milegi ? Multinational Co. me ya > > Indian Co ? b) Meri Co. kya mujhe videsh bhejegi? Kab ? > > c) Meri Shaadi kab hogi ? Love marriage ya arranged ? > > d) Ladki/Ladka kaisa hoga ? Kya karta hoga ? Business > > ya naukri?Videsh men ya yahin ? > > e) Mero aur mere bibi ki nahi patthi hai...kya mamla > > sulajh jayega ? Ha to kab? Nahi to.divorce hoga kyaeparation hoga ? > > > > Is tareh ka prashna ke achuk,aur tarikh ke saath,din > > ke saath jawaab de sakthe hain...! ! > > Aise Jawaab SIRF K.P. ke aadhar pe diya ja saakta > > hai...JISKE LIYE K.P. AAJ FAMOUS HO GAYA HAI... ! ! ! > > ANS: MAY BE YOU ARE RIGHT BUT MY QUESTIOS ARE STILL THERE? > > > > 7) Aur bhi jo bhi Prashna hai main uska vistarit > > jawaab zaroor doonga... > > ANS: THANKS > > 8) Maine aapko pichle mail men Vimshottari Dasa ka > > Rationale(AADHAR),ka reference de chuka hoon...idhar reproduce karna > > mumkin nahin hai...bahut lamba e-mail hoga.. > > ANS: STILL I AM WAITING.. > > 9) Aap ka K.P. par har prashna ka jawaab mai zarror > > aapko duunga...Gulbarga theory to ab bahut kam K.P,.followers waparte > > hai...kyon ki aur accurate methods ka shodh hua hai...aur gulbarga > > theory sirf Yes/No sawal ke liye wapra ja sakta hai...ek shortcut > > method hai... > > ANS: OK > > 10) K.P. ke aadhar par,jab bhi aap ke kamre men koin > > bhi pravesh karega,turant aap unko uska Janma Nakshatra bataa saten > > hai...ek chounkane wali baat hain uske liye... ! > > Vagera...vagera...vagera... > > ANS: I AGREED, BUT YOU PROVE THAT YOUR PADHATHI IS RIGHT? > > > > Abhi,aap mujhe samjha dijiye ki Karma/destiny kaise > > badla ja sakta hai.. > > ANS: NO BODY CAN CHANGE THE DESTINY. > > Hindu philosophy aur Hindu scriptures aur > > Puraanon ke vichaar ke opposite hai...Is janam to uska phal hargis > > nahi mil sakta hai...yeh to hum sub jaanten hai...agla janam kisne > > dekha hai ? > > ANS: BUT YOU SAY THAT KP PADHATHI EXPLAIN PAST-PRESENT AND FUTURE BIRTH, > FROM YOUR PRESENT KUNDLI. I THINK BOTH ARE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS. > > Magar apko yeh sun kat tajjub zarror hoga ki K.P. se ap > > pichle,present aur future janam ke baaten,vartamaan kundalise hi jaan > > sakten hain... ! > > ANS: ARE YOU PROVE IT LOGICALLY? > > Kaarmic phal to is janam men bhugatna hi padega...karnic > > RIN to chukana hi padega...nahi to agle janam me interest ke saath > > carry-forward hoga... > > ANS: WHAT IS KAARMIC PHAL YA RIN? HOW CAN YOU PROVE IT WILL GO AND PAY > WITH INTEREST?.. ARE YOU SHOURE THAT THE PERSON BORN IN A MANUSHYA YONI > NOT ANY OTHER YONI? > > Krishnmurthi Padhdhati aapka is janam ka Karmic Phal kya > > hai...yeh jaan ne ko aapko madadgaar hai... > > YEH,EK ASTROLOGY KA SAHI,PRACTICAL AUR UTTAM USE HAI JO > > KRISHNAMURTHI PADHDHATI HI AAP KO PRADAAN KARTA HAI...! ! ! ! > > ANS: I THINK YOUR BOAT HAS SO MANY HOLES. > > > > Mera Rajni Khan ko bheja hua e-mail BHI padhiye aur baad > > me VISTAAR SE JO BHI JAWAB DENA HAI,TO DE DIJIYE > > ANS:DEFINATELLY.... > > NOW ONE QUESTION : ARE YOUR BIRTH DATE IS ONE OF 09-18 OR 27? > > IN YOUR CHART YOUR SUN-MERC ARE. IN 11TH HOUSE FROM LAGNA? > > WITH REGARDS > > IN WAITING OF YOUR ANSWER > > UMESH SHARMA > > L.Y.Rao. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Mr. Rao, Have you read Lal-Kitab? If not than read the fllowing: General Principles 1. The Sun as lord of the 5th, the Mercury as lord of the 3rd and 6th, the Jupiter as lord of the 9th and the Saturn as lord of the 10th are directly or indirectly in some form or the other are the Karakas of the father and his property. But the Jupiter and the Sun, Jupiter and Mercury or Jupiter and Saturn occupying any house jointly carry no relevance to the knowledge about father or father's property at all. Even Mercury and Sun, Mercury and Saturn or Sun and Saturn also sitting together behave in the same manner. 2. If two or more inimical planets are occupying a single house, they will not behave as enemies. But it does not mean that they do not affect the influences of each other and show their own results of being in that house independently i.e. their conjunction does not affect their individual results. 3. Friendly planets together occupying a house become extremely friendly and help each other in producing good and auspicious results. 4. The 7th house is regarded as the Pucca Ghar (permanent house) of Mercury. If Mercury is placed in the 7th house of a horoscope, even the powerful planets like Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn occupying a Kendra, 2nd or 11th house can not affect the health of the native adversely. 5. If a female planet is placed in any house along with Saturn and both are being aspected by any other planet, then the expecting planet will become afflicted and affect adversely the persons and relatives of such expecting planet as Karakas. 6. In general, all planets in their Pucca Ghar, own house or exalted house give good results. A planet in inimical house or in a house of debilitation gives bad results. If a planet is not placed in his Pucca Ghar and the same is occupied by a planet inimical to such planet, then that planet will destroy the good results of the house in which he stands placed. 7. While examining a horoscope, the 1st, 7th, 8th and 11th houses must be examined together as they are mutually interested. The planets in the ascendant is treated as a ruler and the one in the 7th acts as his minister. The planet in the 8th is the eye of that ruler, whereas the planet in the 11th house is the ruler's foot. More planets in the 7th house than the 1st house shows that the ruler does not have required control over his minister. If the planets in the 11th house are inimical to the planets in the first house, then they will not obey the command of the ruler i.e., the results of the 11th house will be adversely affected. The planets of the 8th house (eyes) guide the planets of the 7th house (minister) and control their actions and effects. If the planets of the 1st and 8th houses are friendly, then the planet in the 7th house can not play any mischief. Mars in the 7th is considered to be highly conducive for gaining large property. But if Mercury is in the Lagna, it will destroy the properties. It will be destroyed because of the foolishness of the native, because here the Mercury being in the first house is Karaka of the native. At the same time if the Mercury is in the 8th house, it will again destroy the properties, but here the reasons for destination will be unknown and invisible, because the active elements of the 8th house are always secretive and mysterious in nature over which the native has no control. Similarly, if the planets of the 1st and 11th houses destination are friendly, they will control the planets of the 7th house. If they are inimical, the results would be bad. The planets of the 1st house aspect the planets of the 7th house. If they are mutually inimical, then the bad results accrue because of the foolishness or unworthiness of the native. The planets of the 8th house aspect the planets of the 2nd house and thereby affect their results. 8. 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th and 11th houses must also be examined simultaneously as follows : (a) The planets of the 8th house aspect the 2nd house and thereby affect the results of the 2nd house. The effects of the aspects of the planets of the 8th house over the 2nd house are affected by the planets of the 11th house - favourably if friendly and unfavourably if inimical. (b) The planets of the 2nd house aspect the 6th house and affects its results. The planets of the 6th and 8th houses have secret relations with each other, because of which they also affect the planets of the 2nd house (+++). © The 12th house also affects the 2nd house (+++). If there are evil planets in the 6th and 8th houses, (because of their secret/implied conjunction) their evil power increases 10 times. (d) If the planets in the 12th and 8th houses are inimical, the native should not visit temples and other places of worship. 9. The 3rd, 11th, 5th, 9th and 10th houses must also be examined simultaneously as follows : (a) If there is any planet in the 3rd house, it will start showing effects after the birth of the native's younger brother. If the 9th and 5th houses are occupied by Saturn Rahu or Ketu then the unfavourable changes start coming up in the native's life just after the birth of the child. (b) If there are good planets in the 9th house and there is no planet in the 2nd house, the native remains deprived of all the benefits. © If there is no planet in the 4th house, or it is occupied by Rahu, Ketu or Saturn, then the good results of the 10th house will not be received by the native. If 10th and 2nd houses are empty, the good results of the 4th house will go waste. (d) If the 3rd and 9th houses are bad, the 5th will also prove bad. (e) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, the 5th house will give good results. (f) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, then Rahu or Ketu in the 5th will neither affect the issues of the native or the native himself adversely. (g) If Rahu or Ketu be placed in the 5th and there are inimical planets in the 8th then strokes of misfortune will hit the native through the 11th house. The relatives indicated by the planets of the 5th and 8th houses will also be affected. In this situation the earnings of the native will also be affected very adversely, if the 2nd house is empty. Nothing will be able to save the native. Now the planets of the 10th and 5th will also turn to be malefic whatever be their natural character. ---- ---------- The author of Lal Kitab has enunciated such significant principles of astrology that stand well tested today and as such they are of utmost importance in our day to day life. In view of this, an effort is being made here to describe some unfailing principles and astrological precautions for the benefit of people at large. They are as follows: To begin with, no temple with idols should be constructed even for individual worship in a residential house. However, keeping photos or drawings of deities on paper is not prohibited. This is highly inauspicious for the natives born with Jupiter in 7th house. If there is a small dark room at the end of the house, where there is no passage for air or light, the same should be left as it is and no attempt should be made to facilitate natural light through opening windows etc. in that room; otherwise, misfortunes will strike the residents. Places where ornaments or money is kept secretly must not be left empty. If there is nothing to be kept, please put some dry fruits there. There must necessarily be some uncemented place in a house. But if it is not feasible, the articles related to Venus must be installed and established therein. Worship of lord Ganesh is highly auspicious for children and property. For safe delivery of children, a milk pot filled with milk and a sugar pot filled with sugar must be touched by the delivering mother and kept at some different place. After the delivery both the pots should be offered to some temple and should not be brought back from there. Good effects will multiply if the quality of the pots is good. If one's children do not survive the native must distribute salty preparations in place of sweets, to celebrate the birth of the child. Digging of wells or providing drinking water facilities for public is strictly prohibited for those with moon in 6th house of the birth chart. Any violation of the above would invite utter destruction and extreme poverty. Building of dharmshalas, sarais or inns is strictly prohibited for those having Saturn in 8th house. Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter in 5th house cause death of children one after the other, if copper coins are given in charity. Jupiter in 10th and moon in 4th cause false allegations and critical legal proceedings against the native if he builds temples or gurudwaras. Financial aid to widows and scholarships to poor children are strictly prohibited for those having Venus in 9th house. Grave consequences would folllow if a native with moon in 12th house opens schools for free education, or offers food to religious saints and Jogins. Anyone having Jupiter in 7th house must not offer clothes to anyone in charity Donations in the morning and evening hours by persons having Sun in 7th or 8th house of their horoscope will produce highly harmful and poisonous effects. The younger brother should never go for adoption of children of the elder brother. At the same time he should also not arrange the free marriage of the daughter of his elder brother. These practices would certainly lead to disastrous consequences. Saturn in 11th house makes the native desert his wife and children in young age, whereas Saturn in the groom's 2nd house proves inauspicious for the bride's family. Mercury and Rahu combining in houses 3, 8, 9, or 12 of the groom is also inauspicious for the bride's family. Venus and Ketu together in Lagna make the native impotent. The groom is likely to be of bad sexual habits and may destroy his wealth in that, if the planetary positions are as follows: (a) Sun in 6th and Mars in 10th with the afflicted 12th house. (b) Moon in Lagna and Jupiter in 11th house. © Jupiter and Venus in 10th house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Dear Mr.Umesh, You are just wasting your precious time by interacting with a person who is not only psychic other wise also not suppose to be entertained in this group. Dr.Amar Aggarwal " --- On Sun, 6/29/08, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001 wrote: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001[lalkitab] Mr. Raolalkitab Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 7:50 PM Mr. Rao,Have you read Lal-Kitab? If not than read the fllowing:General Principles1. The Sun as lord of the 5th, the Mercury as lord of the 3rd and 6th, the Jupiter as lord of the 9th and the Saturn as lord of the 10th are directly or indirectly in some form or the other are the Karakas of the father and his property. But the Jupiter and the Sun, Jupiter and Mercury or Jupiter and Saturn occupying any house jointly carry no relevance to the knowledge about father or father's property at all. Even Mercury and Sun, Mercury and Saturn or Sun and Saturn also sitting together behave in the same manner. 2. If two or more inimical planets are occupying a single house, they will not behave as enemies. But it does not mean that they do not affect the influences of each other and show their own results of being in that house independently i.e. their conjunction does not affect their individual results. 3. Friendly planets together occupying a house become extremely friendly and help each other in producing good and auspicious results. 4. The 7th house is regarded as the Pucca Ghar (permanent house) of Mercury. If Mercury is placed in the 7th house of a horoscope, even the powerful planets like Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn occupying a Kendra, 2nd or 11th house can not affect the health of the native adversely. 5. If a female planet is placed in any house along with Saturn and both are being aspected by any other planet, then the expecting planet will become afflicted and affect adversely the persons and relatives of such expecting planet as Karakas. 6. In general, all planets in their Pucca Ghar, own house or exalted house give good results. A planet in inimical house or in a house of debilitation gives bad results. If a planet is not placed in his Pucca Ghar and the same is occupied by a planet inimical to such planet, then that planet will destroy the good results of the house in which he stands placed. 7. While examining a horoscope, the 1st, 7th, 8th and 11th houses must be examined together as they are mutually interested. The planets in the ascendant is treated as a ruler and the one in the 7th acts as his minister. The planet in the 8th is the eye of that ruler, whereas the planet in the 11th house is the ruler's foot. More planets in the 7th house than the 1st house shows that the ruler does not have required control over his minister. If the planets in the 11th house are inimical to the planets in the first house, then they will not obey the command of the ruler i.e., the results of the 11th house will be adversely affected. The planets of the 8th house (eyes) guide the planets of the 7th house (minister) and control their actions and effects. If the planets of the 1st and 8th houses are friendly, then the planet in the 7th house can not play any mischief. Mars in the 7th is considered to be highly conducive for gaining large property. But if Mercury is in the Lagna, it will destroy the properties. It will be destroyed because of the foolishness of the native, because here the Mercury being in the first house is Karaka of the native. At the same time if the Mercury is in the 8th house, it will again destroy the properties, but here the reasons for destination will be unknown and invisible, because the active elements of the 8th house are always secretive and mysterious in nature over which the native has no control. Similarly, if the planets of the 1st and 11th houses destination are friendly, they will control the planets of the 7th house. If they are inimical, the results would be bad. The planets of the 1st house aspect the planets of the 7th house. If they are mutually inimical, then the bad results accrue because of the foolishness or unworthiness of the native. The planets of the 8th house aspect the planets of the 2nd house and thereby affect their results. 8. 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th and 11th houses must also be examined simultaneously as follows : (a) The planets of the 8th house aspect the 2nd house and thereby affect the results of the 2nd house. The effects of the aspects of the planets of the 8th house over the 2nd house are affected by the planets of the 11th house - favourably if friendly and unfavourably if inimical. (b) The planets of the 2nd house aspect the 6th house and affects its results. The planets of the 6th and 8th houses have secret relations with each other, because of which they also affect the planets of the 2nd house (+++). © The 12th house also affects the 2nd house (+++). If there are evil planets in the 6th and 8th houses, (because of their secret/implied conjunction) their evil power increases 10 times. (d) If the planets in the 12th and 8th houses are inimical, the native should not visit temples and other places of worship. 9. The 3rd, 11th, 5th, 9th and 10th houses must also be examined simultaneously as follows : (a) If there is any planet in the 3rd house, it will start showing effects after the birth of the native's younger brother. If the 9th and 5th houses are occupied by Saturn Rahu or Ketu then the unfavourable changes start coming up in the native's life just after the birth of the child. (b) If there are good planets in the 9th house and there is no planet in the 2nd house, the native remains deprived of all the benefits. © If there is no planet in the 4th house, or it is occupied by Rahu, Ketu or Saturn, then the good results of the 10th house will not be received by the native. If 10th and 2nd houses are empty, the good results of the 4th house will go waste. (d) If the 3rd and 9th houses are bad, the 5th will also prove bad. (e) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, the 5th house will give good results. (f) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, then Rahu or Ketu in the 5th will neither affect the issues of the native or the native himself adversely. (g) If Rahu or Ketu be placed in the 5th and there are inimical planets in the 8th then strokes of misfortune will hit the native through the 11th house. The relatives indicated by the planets of the 5th and 8th houses will also be affected. In this situation the earnings of the native will also be affected very adversely, if the 2nd house is empty. Nothing will be able to save the native. Now the planets of the 10th and 5th will also turn to be malefic whatever be their natural character.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----------The author of Lal Kitab has enunciated such significant principles of astrology that stand well tested today and as such they are of utmost importance in our day to day life. In view of this, an effort is being made here to describe some unfailing principles and astrological precautions for the benefit of people at large. They are as follows: To begin with, no temple with idols should be constructed even for individual worship in a residential house. However, keeping photos or drawings of deities on paper is not prohibited. This is highly inauspicious for the natives born with Jupiter in 7th house. If there is a small dark room at the end of the house, where there is no passage for air or light, the same should be left as it is and no attempt should be made to facilitate natural light through opening windows etc. in that room; otherwise, misfortunes will strike the residents. Places where ornaments or money is kept secretly must not be left empty. If there is nothing to be kept, please put some dry fruits there. There must necessarily be some uncemented place in a house. But if it is not feasible, the articles related to Venus must be installed and established therein. Worship of lord Ganesh is highly auspicious for children and property. For safe delivery of children, a milk pot filled with milk and a sugar pot filled with sugar must be touched by the delivering mother and kept at some different place. After the delivery both the pots should be offered to some temple and should not be brought back from there. Good effects will multiply if the quality of the pots is good. If one's children do not survive the native must distribute salty preparations in place of sweets, to celebrate the birth of the child. Digging of wells or providing drinking water facilities for public is strictly prohibited for those with moon in 6th house of the birth chart. Any violation of the above would invite utter destruction and extreme poverty. Building of dharmshalas, sarais or inns is strictly prohibited for those having Saturn in 8th house. Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter in 5th house cause death of children one after the other, if copper coins are given in charity. Jupiter in 10th and moon in 4th cause false allegations and critical legal proceedings against the native if he builds temples or gurudwaras. Financial aid to widows and scholarships to poor children are strictly prohibited for those having Venus in 9th house. Grave consequences would folllow if a native with moon in 12th house opens schools for free education, or offers food to religious saints and Jogins. Anyone having Jupiter in 7th house must not offer clothes to anyone in charity Donations in the morning and evening hours by persons having Sun in 7th or 8th house of their horoscope will produce highly harmful and poisonous effects. The younger brother should never go for adoption of children of the elder brother. At the same time he should also not arrange the free marriage of the daughter of his elder brother. These practices would certainly lead to disastrous consequences. Saturn in 11th house makes the native desert his wife and children in young age, whereas Saturn in the groom's 2nd house proves inauspicious for the bride's family. Mercury and Rahu combining in houses 3, 8, 9, or 12 of the groom is also inauspicious for the bride's family. Venus and Ketu together in Lagna make the native impotent. The groom is likely to be of bad sexual habits and may destroy his wealth in that, if the planetary positions are as follows: (a) Sun in 6th and Mars in 10th with the afflicted 12th house. (b) Moon in Lagna and Jupiter in 11th house. © Jupiter and Venus in 10th house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Umesh, This is in response to the highly " frustrated soul " who goes by the name of Amar Aggarwal... By suggesting to block me off,he clearly betrays his bitterness,born out of utter frustration...Truly,I feel very sad for him,that inspite of help of Lal Kitab Remedies,he is not able to diagnose his illness/obssession and TREAT HIMSELF... He is surely exhibiting symptoms of megalomania...and believing that he is some sort of " EXPERT " on all subjects under the Sun...! HE SEEMS TO BE SUFFERING FROM A SEVERE MENTAL BLOCK !! I can only feel sorry for Amar and pray to God for his getting treated in a good and reputed facility having very good psychiatrists...and/or psychoanalysts...and getting well EARLY... Unable to GIVE ME THE RATIONALE OF LAL KITAB...he is now totally frustrated...I WANT TO STUDY LAL KITAB BUT ONLY AFTER BEING CONVINCED THAT IT HAS A SOUND RATIONALE...WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ? ? The intense dislike of my very asking for the Rationale,borders on " hatred " ...Is this what Aggarwal has learnt from Lal Kitab ? Certainly Amar NEEDS URGENT PSYCHIATRIC HELP IT IS OBVIOUS... ANY WAY...I TAKE SOLACE FROM THE FACT THAT " IT TAKES ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS WORLD...! " I WILL CERTAINLY PRAY FOR HIM... L.Y.RAO. > > Dear Mr.Umesh, > You are just wasting your precious time by interacting with a person who is not only psychic other wise also not suppose to be entertained in this group. > Dr.Amar Aggarwal > " > > --- On Sun, 6/29/08, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001 wrote: > > Umesh Sharma <mudit982001 > [lalkitab] Mr. Rao > lalkitab > Sunday, June 29, 2008, 7:50 PM Mr. Rao, > Have you read Lal-Kitab? If not than read the fllowing: > > General Principles > 1. The Sun as lord of the 5th, the Mercury as lord of the 3rd and > 6th, the Jupiter as lord of the 9th and the Saturn as lord of the > 10th are directly or indirectly in some form or the other are the > Karakas of the father and his property. But the Jupiter and the Sun, > Jupiter and Mercury or Jupiter and Saturn occupying any house jointly > carry no relevance to the knowledge about father or father's property > at all. Even Mercury and Sun, Mercury and Saturn or Sun and Saturn > also sitting together behave in the same manner. > > 2. If two or more inimical planets are occupying a single house, > they will not behave as enemies. But it does not mean that they do > not affect the influences of each other and show their own results of > being in that house independently i.e. their conjunction does not > affect their individual results. > > 3. Friendly planets together occupying a house become extremely > friendly and help each other in producing good and auspicious > results. > > 4. The 7th house is regarded as the Pucca Ghar (permanent house) of > Mercury. If Mercury is placed in the 7th house of a horoscope, even > the powerful planets like Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn occupying a > Kendra, 2nd or 11th house can not affect the health of the native > adversely. > > 5. If a female planet is placed in any house along with Saturn and > both are being aspected by any other planet, then the expecting > planet will become afflicted and affect adversely the persons and > relatives of such expecting planet as Karakas. > > 6. In general, all planets in their Pucca Ghar, own house or exalted > house give good results. A planet in inimical house or in a house of > debilitation gives bad results. If a planet is not placed in his > Pucca Ghar and the same is occupied by a planet inimical to such > planet, then that planet will destroy the good results of the house > in which he stands placed. > > 7. While examining a horoscope, the 1st, 7th, 8th and 11th houses > must be examined together as they are mutually interested. The > planets in the ascendant is treated as a ruler and the one in the 7th > acts as his minister. The planet in the 8th is the eye of that ruler, > whereas the planet in the 11th house is the ruler's foot. > > More planets in the 7th house than the 1st house shows that the ruler > does not have required control over his minister. If the planets in > the 11th house are inimical to the planets in the first house, then > they will not obey the command of the ruler i.e., the results of the > 11th house will be adversely affected. > > The planets of the 8th house (eyes) guide the planets of the 7th > house (minister) and control their actions and effects. If the > planets of the 1st and 8th houses are friendly, then the planet in > the 7th house can not play any mischief. > > Mars in the 7th is considered to be highly conducive for gaining > large property. But if Mercury is in the Lagna, it will destroy the > properties. It will be destroyed because of the foolishness of the > native, because here the Mercury being in the first house is Karaka > of the native. At the same time if the Mercury is in the 8th house, > it will again destroy the properties, but here the reasons for > destination will be unknown and invisible, because the active > elements of the 8th house are always secretive and mysterious in > nature over which the native has no control. > > Similarly, if the planets of the 1st and 11th houses destination are > friendly, they will control the planets of the 7th house. If they are > inimical, the results would be bad. > > The planets of the 1st house aspect the planets of the 7th house. If > they are mutually inimical, then the bad results accrue because of > the foolishness or unworthiness of the native. The planets of the 8th > house aspect the planets of the 2nd house and thereby affect their > results. > > 8. 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th and 11th houses must also be examined > simultaneously as follows : > > (a) The planets of the 8th house aspect the 2nd house and thereby > affect the results of the 2nd house. The effects of the aspects of > the planets of the 8th house over the 2nd house are affected by the > planets of the 11th house - favourably if friendly and unfavourably > if inimical. > > (b) The planets of the 2nd house aspect the 6th house and affects its > results. The planets of the 6th and 8th houses have secret relations > with each other, because of which they also affect the planets of the > 2nd house (+++). > > © The 12th house also affects the 2nd house (+++). If there are > evil planets in the 6th and 8th houses, (because of their > secret/implied conjunction) their evil power increases 10 times. > > (d) If the planets in the 12th and 8th houses are inimical, the > native should not visit temples and other places of worship. > > 9. The 3rd, 11th, 5th, 9th and 10th houses must also be examined > simultaneously as follows : > > (a) If there is any planet in the 3rd house, it will start showing > effects after the birth of the native's younger brother. If the 9th > and 5th houses are occupied by Saturn Rahu or Ketu then the > unfavourable changes start coming up in the native's life just after > the birth of the child. > > (b) If there are good planets in the 9th house and there is no planet > in the 2nd house, the native remains deprived of all the benefits. > > © If there is no planet in the 4th house, or it is occupied by > Rahu, Ketu or Saturn, then the good results of the 10th house will > not be received by the native. If 10th and 2nd houses are empty, the > good results of the 4th house will go waste. > > (d) If the 3rd and 9th houses are bad, the 5th will also prove bad. > > (e) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, the 5th house will give > good results. > > (f) If the 9th is occupied by Sun or Moon, then Rahu or Ketu in the > 5th will neither affect the issues of the native or the native > himself adversely. > > (g) If Rahu or Ketu be placed in the 5th and there are inimical > planets in the 8th then strokes of misfortune will hit the native > through the 11th house. The relatives indicated by the planets of the > 5th and 8th houses will also be affected. In this situation the > earnings of the native will also be affected very adversely, if the > 2nd house is empty. Nothing will be able to save the native. Now the > planets of the 10th and 5th will also turn to be malefic whatever be > their natural character. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > ---------- > > The author of Lal Kitab has enunciated such significant principles of > astrology that stand well tested today and as such they are of utmost > importance in our day to day life. In view of this, an effort is > being made here to describe some unfailing principles and > astrological precautions for the benefit of people at large. > > They are as follows: > > To begin with, no temple with idols should be constructed even for > individual worship in a residential house. However, keeping photos or > drawings of deities on paper is not prohibited. This is highly > inauspicious for the natives born with Jupiter in 7th house. > > If there is a small dark room at the end of the house, where there is > no passage for air or light, the same should be left as it is and no > attempt should be made to facilitate natural light through opening > windows etc. in that room; otherwise, misfortunes will strike the > residents. > > Places where ornaments or money is kept secretly must not be left > empty. If there is nothing to be kept, please put some dry fruits > there. > > There must necessarily be some uncemented place in a house. But if it > is not feasible, the articles related to Venus must be installed and > established therein. > > Worship of lord Ganesh is highly auspicious for children and > property. > > For safe delivery of children, a milk pot filled with milk and a > sugar pot filled with sugar must be touched by the delivering mother > and kept at some different place. After the delivery both the pots > should be offered to some temple and should not be brought back from > there. Good effects will multiply if the quality of the pots is good. > > If one's children do not survive the native must distribute salty > preparations in place of sweets, to celebrate the birth of the child. > > Digging of wells or providing drinking water facilities for public is > strictly prohibited for those with moon in 6th house of the birth > chart. Any violation of the above would invite utter destruction and > extreme poverty. > > Building of dharmshalas, sarais or inns is strictly prohibited for > those having Saturn in 8th house. > > Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter in 5th house cause death of children one > after the other, if copper coins are given in charity. > > Jupiter in 10th and moon in 4th cause false allegations and critical > legal proceedings against the native if he builds temples or > gurudwaras. > > Financial aid to widows and scholarships to poor children are > strictly prohibited for those having Venus in 9th house. > > Grave consequences would folllow if a native with moon in 12th house > opens schools for free education, or offers food to religious saints > and Jogins. > > Anyone having Jupiter in 7th house must not offer clothes to anyone > in charity > > Donations in the morning and evening hours by persons having Sun in > 7th or 8th house of their horoscope will produce highly harmful and > poisonous effects. > > The younger brother should never go for adoption of children of the > elder brother. At the same time he should also not arrange the free > marriage of the daughter of his elder brother. These practices would > certainly lead to disastrous consequences. > > Saturn in 11th house makes the native desert his wife and children in > young age, whereas Saturn in the groom's 2nd house proves > inauspicious for the bride's family. > > Mercury and Rahu combining in houses 3, 8, 9, or 12 of the groom is > also inauspicious for the bride's family. > > Venus and Ketu together in Lagna make the native impotent. > > The groom is likely to be of bad sexual habits and may destroy his > wealth in that, if the planetary positions are as follows: > > (a) Sun in 6th and Mars in 10th with the afflicted 12th house. > > (b) Moon in Lagna and Jupiter in 11th house. > > © Jupiter and Venus in 10th house. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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