Saturn Return and Karmic cleansing plus marakas FAO: Shri VIC JI

June 4, 2008

Pujay shri Vic ji,

PDK - is my name Kotak is surname.

Karachi is in Pakistan - 67E3 / 24N52.

As per KP systems the following are the details of Horoscope

ASC LEO degree 19:8

In Asc Planets are Sun 1:23

Neptune 12:16

Mer 26:4

2nd House Virgo

Ketu 13:17

Mars 17:26

3rd House has Moon 0:12

4th house no planets

5th house Saturn 24:46

6th 7th house no planets

8th house Rahu 13:17 plus Ur 26:21

9th and 10 th house No. planets

11 house Pluto 28:30

12 th house

VENUS 25:37 AND JUPITER 14:12

The above calculation is as per Vedic Astrology.

Coming to wards yr question Tell me yr health status .....

u are right it is always up and dons ...........it is true.

Children ........ FOUR

One daughter [Eldest]

three sons. No loss at all.

Financial situation has been always up and down

but I am fighter and do fight /Court cases after

1991 so far - even one judgement arrived recently.

Almighty always looks after me - some time it is OK and

other times problems -

U are right on dot - about intelligent and thoughtful person -

hence surviving so far -

Dhyan and japa yoga is continuing all the time - but after all

Human mind is monkey mind and when you are fighting in

most of the front - it gets disturb -

Hence cant keep up timings - but do japa while working and

going around

Apart from that I some time feel that mother Shakti Kundalini

has awake - which is helping me quite a lot and as said by u

I always visualise shakti in every items - Move able or non movable

Your interpretation in 100% - hence again as said by u path

for Mukti is opening quite - I do feel all the material world

meaningless.

It is true that it is leading me towards extreme tapsaya

Many many thanks for every thing - Radhy Radhy is the only

word - here after that is only word for mother shakti -

I shall be much obliged if u kindly write to me with some more

suggestions. Radhy Radhy pdk kotak

Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

PDK,

What does PDK stand for??? I found Karachi in Pakisthan, this is

correct, right, not Karachuli in India?

Your 12th house has Jupiter, Sun, and Venus, and the sign is Cancer.

First let's look at Jupiter...

Jupiter is Exalted! It's a bit past full, but still very, very strong

and well disposed towards you. Jupiter shares Vyaya Bhavan ( ;-) the

" 12th House " ) with Surya and Venus. In fact, Venus and Jupiter share

the same " Room " in the house (Same Nakshatra). This room (Pushya)

belongs to Saturn.

Jupiter dislikes Saturn, so being in his room diminishes the Jupiter

beneficence, or at least changes it's tone. Jupiter hates Venus,

having to share this room also diminishes Jupiter's beneficence and

changes it's nature.

Jupiter is neutral to his housemate, Surya.

Next let's look at Venus...

Venus is neutral in Cancer, and is house-swapping with The Moon

(Parivartana Yoga). She get's along better with Saturn (the owner of

her " room " ) than Jupiter does, but is still is just neutral. She

doesn't like her room-mate, Jupiter, and she hates the person living

in a different part of this house: the Sun.

Now the Sun...

Sun is in the Moon's House, and the Moon is his great friend. He's in

Mercury's room, and Mercury is also a friend. He is neutral towards

his housemate Jupiter, and hates his other housemate, Venus.

OK, NOW LET'S INTERPRET.

Strong Jupiter in the 12th house, directs his energy towards your

losses, renunciation, and philosophical attempts towards realization.

This is the Moon's house, so these effects mainly pertain to your

emotional and inner self. Jupiter is in Saturn's room, so his

blessings will take even more of a spiritual and philosophical nature

than usual.

*Your inner self derives realization and philosophical growth from

your apparent losses.*

There is a frustration of energy between him and his room-mate, Venus.

I think you should therefore take some time in your life to try to

appreciate OTHER angles on divinity and spirituality, rather than the

Jupiterian / Saturnian one which comes naturally to you. Try to

harmonize this tension between the Two Brahmanas by learning Venus'

approach to spirituality. See God in flowers and trees and in love and

in peace and in delicious food. Eat delicious Radha-prashad, with

humility and folded hands try to appreciate divine sexuality. Try to

fathom the beauty in Sringar Rasa Lila. Contemplate Sri Radha and Her

Sakhis and Manjaris. Make prayers to their divine feet.

If you can harmonize Jupiter and Venus your path to mukti opens up

much wider and clearer. This will not be an easy task, because they

are at each other's throats, so to speak, in your horoscope.

There is a less dramatic frustration of energy between Jupiter and

Saturn. Therefore try to appreciate Saturn's way of life. Try to see

through the eyes of the lower classes. Look at the punk teenagers in

ripped black clothes (do you have them over there!?) and try to

understand how they perceive life. Look at the beggars, the tyagis.

How do they see god? Etc. Thus try to harmonize Saturn and Jupiter.

Don't be alarmed about the Sun. The two benefics sharing his house

have pacified his inclination towards being a maraka. I bet you

identify yourself as a spiritualist, or even a renunciate, within

yourself, notwithstanding you humility, I think this is how you

conceive of yourself. And it is true. The Sun can shine much light

into philosophical mysteries pertaining to liberation when he is well

disposed in the 12th.

May I now ask you a few questions?

Tell me your health status. It appears that your health has

significant " ups and downs " sometimes you feel quite healthy, but at

other times quite sick. Is this true?

Do you have children? Saturn and Mars affect them, but Jupiter is

their Ishvara. Did you lose some children?

What's your financial situation? Mars functions as a benefic owning 9

and 4. Ketu acts like Mars and Mercury - so it's not too malefic. Rahu

acts like Saturn and Jupiter, and thus also is a little beneficial. I

think maybe you have an ok savings account?

You are an intelligent and thoughtful person. Mercury is very strong

in your Ascendant and the Moon is highly exalted in Taurus. You can

practice Dhyan or Japa-Yoga with above average success.

Yours,

Vic

On Jun 3, 2008, at 2:58 PM, pdk kotak wrote:

> Pujay shri Vic ji,

>

> U are what we call is [ hajer jawabi ] means quick answer without

> wasting time.

>

> Birth data is as follows:

>

> DOB 18 - 08 - 1931

> POB KARACHI

> TOB 08-00 A.M.

>

> With regards and thanks - hari bol pdk

>

> Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

> pdk,

>

> It's no trouble, my friend. Remind me of your birth data, please.

>

>> Sorry to trouble u but is there any chance to be more specific

>> on this statement [ 3rd may bring loss of life or entrance into

>> extreme tapasya]

>

> These are blanket statements with no regard to an individual

> horoscope. As a general blanket statement Saturn transits the Lunar

> 12th, Langa and 2nd about 3 times in an average persons life. Whenever

> this happen Saturn does what Saturn does best, brings lonliness,

> confusion, and alienation. So when this happens for the first time we

> get confused about our direction in life - because we are still

> relatively young. The second time this sade-sati happens we are about

> 30 years older, and this time the same Saturn energy will have a

> different effect, since we are older. Thus it brings a challenge

> pertaining to loss of parents. The third time sade-sati happens you

> are quite old between 60 and 90 roughly. Saturns SAME energy -

> confusion, loss, separation, ending - will affect us at this age by

> either killing us or making us extremely disinterested in material

> things and quest for self-realization.

>

>> I shall be much obliged, as if I remember correctly than Pujay shri

>> Wendiji said Jupiter being in 12th house in my natal chart -

>> I am heading towards Moksha.

>

> Yes. Jupiter is the strongest benefit. the 12th is the Moksha house

> (one of three actually), so we can see that you will have blessings

> towards moksha. Also, the vyaya (losses) that you suffer in life will

> lead to philosophical / spiritual gains because of Jupiters

> beneficence there.

>

>> Hence I always feel like going into prayers all the time - is it

>> because of Saturn passing through Natal position twice has

>> drawn me towards Prayers all the time.

>

> Oh how I wish I felt the same! You are truly blessed. Give me your

> birth info, I'll see what I spot in regards to this question. But yes,

> in general with Jupiter in the 12th your reaction to suffering will be

> to turn to God.

>

> Jai Sri Radhey!

>

> Yours,

> Vic

> Sent from Mail.

> A Smarter Email.

>

June 4, 2008

Respected PDK,

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG! My previous interpretation was for August 8th,

not August 18th!!!!

Let's see what changes...

> Your 12th house has Jupiter, Sun, and Venus, and the sign is Cancer.

As you mentioned Sun has progressed into the Ascendant. So now we have

Venus and Jupiter in Cancer 12th.

> First let's look at Jupiter...

>

> Jupiter is Exalted! It's a bit past full, but still very, very strong

> and well disposed towards you. Jupiter shares Vyaya Bhavan ( ;-) the

> " 12th House " ) with Surya and Venus. In fact, Venus and Jupiter share

> the same " Room " in the house (Same Nakshatra). This room (Pushya)

> belongs to Saturn.

In the ten days to your REAL birthday, Venus moved to a new room! And

Surya to a new house.

So now we have fairly well exalted Jupiter sharing the 12th House with

Venus. Jupiter is still in Saturn's Nakshatra-room. Venus has moved to

a room owned by Mercury. So there will be less tension between the two.

> Jupiter dislikes Saturn, so being in his room diminishes the Jupiter

> beneficence, or at least changes it's tone. Jupiter hates Venus,

> having to share this room also diminishes Jupiter's beneficence and

> changes it's nature.

This didn't change in the ten days! They still don't like each other.

But at least they're not at each other's throats from having to share

the same room (nakshatra).

> Jupiter is neutral to his housemate, Surya.

The Sun moved next door to the Ascendant and now Jupiter is best

friends with him.

> Next let's look at Venus...

>

> Venus is neutral in Cancer, and is house-swapping with The Moon

> (Parivartana Yoga). She get's along better with Saturn (the owner of

> her " room " ) than Jupiter does, but is still is just neutral. She

> doesn't like her room-mate, Jupiter, and she hates the person living

> in a different part of this house: the Sun.

The Sun moved out, and now Venus feels neutral about him. The Moon, of

course, is way across the sky by now. No more parivartana yoga, and

Venus feels neutral about her. Venus moved to a new room in the 12th

house, one owned by Mercury, who is her best friend. So she is MUCH

happier than she was ten days ago (where I originally thought you were

born)

> Now the Sun...

>

The Sun has moved to his own house, and in the ascendant. He's giving

his house-mate Mercury a nice bright glow. Sun is in the room owned by

neutral Ketu! This will be significant! The Sun being in the Ascendant

for a Leo is also going to be very significant.

> OK, NOW LET'S INTERPRET.

>

> Strong Jupiter in the 12th house, directs his energy towards your

> losses, renunciation, and philosophical attempts towards realization.

> This is the Moon's house, so these effects mainly pertain to your

> emotional and inner self. Jupiter is in Saturn's room, so his

> blessings will take even more of a spiritual and philosophical nature

> than usual.

>

> *Your inner self derives realization and philosophical growth from

> your apparent losses.*

This is still true. Even more true now that Jupiter is not frustrated

by sharing a room with Venus.

> There is a frustration of energy between him and his room-mate, Venus.

> I think you should therefore take some time in your life to try to

> appreciate OTHER angles on divinity and spirituality, rather than the

> Jupiterian / Saturnian one which comes naturally to you. Try to

> harmonize this tension between the Two Brahmanas by learning Venus'

> approach to spirituality. See God in flowers and trees and in love and

> in peace and in delicious food. Eat delicious Radha-prashad, with

> humility and folded hands try to appreciate divine sexuality. Try to

> fathom the beauty in Sringar Rasa Lila. Contemplate Sri Radha and Her

> Sakhis and Manjaris. Make prayers to their divine feet.

This is good advice anyway! =) =) =) But we have to note that the

tension between the Two Auspicious Planets has lessened considerably

so I will be easier and more natural for your to harmonize them.

Venus is now in Mercury's room. What a lovely combination. I believe

your insight into Radha-Shakti will be clear and bring you felicity.

*Your inner self derives realization and philosophical growth from

your apparent losses, and this benefit can be made extreme by taking

shelter of the divine feminine principle ( " Radha-sharanam " )*

> Don't be alarmed about the Sun. The two benefics sharing his house

> have pacified his inclination towards being a maraka. I bet you

> identify yourself as a spiritualist, or even a renunciate, within

> yourself, notwithstanding you humility, I think this is how you

> conceive of yourself. And it is true. The Sun can shine much light

> into philosophical mysteries pertaining to liberation when he is well

> disposed in the 12th.

Well the Sun has moved into the Ascendant with an accurate birth date.

There is no longer a maraka threat from the Sun. There is a lot of

strength in your personality. You just have to be careful about that

strength. Leo's with the Sun in their ascendant can exhibit extremely

self-absorbed egos. With your level of spirituality, though, I'm sure

you can identify these feelings and be able to govern them before they

exhibit themselves in a destructive form, otherwise those who are

close to you will have a hard time being emotionally close. Please

tell me what you think about this.

> May I now ask you a few questions?

>

> Tell me your health status. It appears that your health has

> significant " ups and downs " sometimes you feel quite healthy, but at

> other times quite sick. Is this true?

>

>> Coming to wards yr question Tell me yr health status ..... u are

>> right it is always up and dons ...........it is true.

This is not as significant as it would have been were you born 10 days

earlier. Now it's just because of Retrograde Saturn being the owner of

House 6.

> Do you have children? Saturn and Mars affect them, but Jupiter is

> their Ishvara. Did you lose some children?

>

>> Children ........ FOUR

>> One daughter [Eldest]

>> three sons. No loss at all.

This is wonderful. I am so glad to hear it. So here is a nice case

study of how powerful an exalted planet is. There's retrograde Saturn

in your 5th House, Mars aspects it, and it's ruler is in the 12th.

That does not sound good AT ALL. But simply because the owner is a)

jupiter and b) exalted - all these negative indications are out-

shined! You have Four healthy and sound children, 3 sons and 1

daughter. Congratulations!

> What's your financial situation? Mars functions as a benefic owning

> 9 and 4. Ketu acts like Mars and Mercury - so it's not too malefic.

> Rahu acts like Saturn and Jupiter, and thus also is a little

> beneficial. I think maybe you have an ok savings account?

>

>> Financial situation has been always up and down but I am fighter

>> and do fight /Court cases after 1991 so far - even one judgement

>> arrived recently.

It makes sense. Ketu and Mars are in the 2nd. It's Virgo, and Ketu and

Mercury have a very good relationship. So the ups and downs that Ketu

brings should usually turn out for the better, and Mars indicates that

there are battles fought in regard to finance.

> You are an intelligent and thoughtful person. Mercury is very strong

> in your Ascendant and the Moon is highly exalted in Taurus. You can

> practice Dhyan or Japa-Yoga with above average success.

Moon's position has changed a LOT in the 10 days. Mercurys has too,

but is still quite the same. You were born Shukla Panchami. In this

life you are, like the Moon, increasing your inner strengths. Moon is

happy here in Mercury's house. So there is good concentration - but

not the same as if you were born 10 days before. Evidenced by what you

say:

>> Dhyan and japa yoga is continuing all the time - but after all

>> Human mind is monkey mind and when you are fighting in most of the

>> front - it gets disturb - Hence cant keep up timings - but do

>> japa while working and going around

=) I really like you, pdk. You remind me a lot of a beloved friend I

had a decade ago. Whom I affectionately called " Daddu " . You are much

younger than he, but you have a similar spirit which warms my heart.

> I shall be much obliged if u kindly write to me with some more

> suggestions.

You really don't need any!

Still since you ask. Be careful of the Sun in it's own house in the

ascendant. Before you do what YOU want to do, pause and figure out

what those around you - especially your close family - want to do. Do

that with them first, THEN do what you wanted to do.

Sun is Dharma planet in a Dharma house (1st) in a Dharma sign (Leo).

You are Dharmic! By any chance is your bloodline Kshatriya?

*** If my software is accurate, you are just about to go into Ketu -

Rahu - Ketu!!!! ***

Perhaps another awards from legal financial battles? Or maybe the one

you mentioned is already the one. Or maybe throught the entire Mahadash.

The Sun is in Ketu's nakshatra. During this whole Mahadash you are

therefore getting light cast upon the way Ketu quests for Liberation.

Ketu hungers for liberation. Srimati Mohini Murti caused this in the

Milk-Churning Amrita Lila. You are getting a lot of Ketu energy during

June.

Rahu will give you insight into topics that are beyond death. But

please do be careful. Safeguard yourself against emergencies. Do not

do anything even slightly dangerous. Keep your guard up in this regard

through at least November of this year.

=)

Affectionately,

Vic

June 5, 2008

Pujay shri Vic ji,

Many many thanks, look forward to see u some time

U are right 100%. no doubt about it.

that is how life of Human is struggle all the time.

BTW where about u are ? if possible please answer.