Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dear Mr. Rao, You are happy with your KP system, while we are happy with our Lal Kitab system. You stay with yours and we stay with ours. We are in different boats, so be it. These arguments do not lead us any where. Had you been a Lal Kitab scholar, all of us would have loved to learn from you. You do not have the time to study the Lal Kitab system, we do not have the inclination to study your KP system although we have all the time on our hands. For us the Lal Kitab is our religion, and one doesn't change religion every now and then. Therefore I suggest you shouldn't be wasting your precious time on us in this group. You wouldn't find any converts here. Sincerely, Girish Raheja lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Umeshji, > 1.You are right about the dfinition of Navamsa...but > that makes your case worse,as far as the accuracy in predictions of > Navamsa is concerned.(I gave up traditional astrology long years ago) > 2.The rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa can be found in > the 2004 Annual Issue of the Magazine, " K.P. & Astrology Pp 63-70, > explained in a simple lamguage by the late Pt. Keshub Ranjan Kar... > I shall have the article scanned and mail it to you...pl. send me > your e-mail ID,or residential address. > 3.From whatever you have written about K.P., Gulbarga > method etc.,clearly shows that you have not updated yourself on the > recent research(last 10-15 yrs.)...Hardly any K.P. follower uses this > method any longer... > 4.You say there were " contradictions " in whatever I > have written about Karma and astrology...Could you spell them out ? > 5.Details about my Birth date etc are given,as you have > requested for them... > DOB - 20-10-1939. > POB - MUMBAI > TOB - 12-20-00 hrs. > As per Traditional Astrology,I am told that there are > a lot of powerful Raja Yogas present...for example : > i) Hamsa Yoga > ii) Parijata Yoga > iii) Two Neechabhanga Raja Yogas,by Sun & Saturn > respectively... > iv) Venus is Xth in own house...also causing a Raja > Yoga > v) Exalted Mars conjoined with Moon... > And so on... > > Yesterday afternoon,on a TV Channel, a Traditional > Astrologer did predict about the past births of a few jatakas... > however K.P., can tell about both past as well as future Births... > Your comment about a hole in the boat would have been > valid if you had,indeed,traveloled in the boat yourself... > The accuracy of predictions made by using K.P.,has > become famous now,allover the world even in the USA,Europe etc...and > in India itself more and more " traditional astrologers " have begun > switching to K.P. now... > Newer and newer shortcut methods are being published by > students of Guruji Jyotish Marthand,late K.S.Krishnamurthiji these > days regularly...Today many astrologers have begun to use the sub- sub > and even the sub-sub-sub to give extremely accurate predictions... > even to the very hour of the event taking place... > K.P. is a LIVING SCIENCE today...GROWING and DEVELOPING > EVRY DAY... > After having heard a lot of " stories " about Lal Kitab > and that there are many different versions etc.,and with the total > lack of knowledge of Urdu/Persian,my age,and my distrust of English > translations...and that LK is more abot " totkas " and " Upayas " ,which I > have absolutely NO belief in...I think I do not wish to learn about > Lal Kitab...any longer..allow me to wish ALL followers/experts of Lal > Kitab,the very best of LUCK ! > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Rao > > > > PLZ READ MY VIEWS IN CAPITAL LETTERS BELOW YOUR ANSWERS. > > > > > > > > Dear Umeshji, > > > > Pehle aapke prashnon ka jawaab dunga... > > > > 1) Sub division ka sidhdhant kafi research ke baad hi > > > > aaya hain...Ek Nakshtra 13* 20' lambayee(length)tak hota > > > > hai...Traditional astrologers ne us 13*20' ko 9 EQUAL divisions me > > > > baata tha jisko Navaunsh kehte the...magar Krishnamurthiji ne us me > > > > bahut sari Khaamiyan payi,unhone adyayan karke,is divisin ko equal > se > > > > badal kar 9 divisions ko har planet ke Dasha ke anusar > > > > proportionately bhaga... > > > > ANS:- NAVANSHA IS THE 9TH DIVISION/PART OF THE RASHI NOT OF THE > > NAKSHTRA. > > > > YEH UNKA PEHLA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 2) Adhayan ke baad unhone paya ki bahut bar,ek graha jo > > > > trikon men swagrahi baitha hai,Dasa/Bhkti/Anthara/sookshma > > > > me Kharab results deta hai...Is ke adhyayan bhi kiya gaya aur paya > > > > gaya ki kisi graha ka sub-lord hi nischit karta hai ki woh achcha ya > > > > kharab effects deyga...the sub-lord decides... > > > > ANS:- FIRST OF ALL, MY QUESTION IS WHICH DASHA SYSTEM YOU APPLY. IF > YOU > > APPLY VIMSHOTTRI THAN WHY? WHAT PRINCIPLE USE TO ALLOTMENT THE > YEARS TO > > PLANETS. AS SUN-6YEARS, MOON-10YEARS ETC.? > > > > YEH UNKA DOOSRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 3) Jo doosre divisions ka baat jo aap ne likkha hain,K.P. unko nahi > > > > maanta hai...! > > > > ANS: OK. > > > > 4) 249 hi kyon divisions hai ? > > > > Kyon ki 27 nakshatra ko K.P. ke bhaga jaay to > > > > totally zodiac men 249 different divisions bante hai... > > > > Horary Astrology men,is tharah 249 lagna ka > > > > possibility hai...Kafi Adhyayan ke baad,yeh bhi paaya hai ki,koi ek > > > > vyakti ek hi prashna ke liye doosra number detaa hai TO BHI RESULT > > > > NAHI BADALTA HAI...Aap khud ispe adyayan kar saten hai...maine khud > > > > bahut adhyayan kiya kyon ki mujhe yeh baat patthi nahi thi...magar > > > > yeh baat SAHI NIKLI... ! > > > > ANS: WHICH PRINCIPLE USED TO MAKE THIS DIVISION? BECAUSE IF YOU > > MULTIPLYTO 27 NAKASHTRAS WITH 9TH THAN 27X9=243, IF WE TAKE 28 > NAKSHTRA > > THAN 28X9=253, THAN HOW 249.? > > > > YEH UNKA TEESRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 5) Gaur karne ki baat yeh hain ki is 249 numbers se > > > > aap koi bhi prashna,Prashna Kundali se koi bhi sawal ka achuk uttar > > > > diya ja sakta hain... > > > > ANS: BUT SIR, FIRST OF ALL, WE DECIDED THAT THIS DIVISION IS > PRINCIPLLY > > RIGHT?IF YOU SAY IT IS RIGHT THAN PLZ EXPLAIN THE PRINCIPLE. > > > > YEH UNKA CHAUTHA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > YEH EK UNIVERSAL JOKER BHI HAI... > > > > KAHI BHI FIT HOTA HAI. > > > > 6) Is SHODH ke aadhar par,bahut se logon ke common > > > > sawaal ka uttar accurately diya ja sakta hai...jaise ki : > > > > a) Mujhe naukri kab milegi ? Multinational Co. me ya > > > > Indian Co ? b) Meri Co. kya mujhe videsh bhejegi? Kab ? > > > > c) Meri Shaadi kab hogi ? Love marriage ya arranged ? > > > > d) Ladki/Ladka kaisa hoga ? Kya karta hoga ? Business > > > > ya naukri?Videsh men ya yahin ? > > > > e) Mero aur mere bibi ki nahi patthi hai...kya mamla > > > > sulajh jayega ? Ha to kab? Nahi to.divorce hoga kyaeparation hoga ? > > > > > > > > Is tareh ka prashna ke achuk,aur tarikh ke saath,din > > > > ke saath jawaab de sakthe hain...! ! > > > > Aise Jawaab SIRF K.P. ke aadhar pe diya ja saakta > > > > hai...JISKE LIYE K.P. AAJ FAMOUS HO GAYA HAI... ! ! ! > > > > ANS: MAY BE YOU ARE RIGHT BUT MY QUESTIOS ARE STILL THERE? > > > > > > > > 7) Aur bhi jo bhi Prashna hai main uska vistarit > > > > jawaab zaroor doonga... > > > > ANS: THANKS > > > > 8) Maine aapko pichle mail men Vimshottari Dasa ka > > > > Rationale(AADHAR),ka reference de chuka hoon...idhar reproduce karna > > > > mumkin nahin hai...bahut lamba e-mail hoga.. > > > > ANS: STILL I AM WAITING.. > > > > 9) Aap ka K.P. par har prashna ka jawaab mai zarror > > > > aapko duunga...Gulbarga theory to ab bahut kam K.P,.followers > waparte > > > > hai...kyon ki aur accurate methods ka shodh hua hai...aur gulbarga > > > > theory sirf Yes/No sawal ke liye wapra ja sakta hai...ek shortcut > > > > method hai... > > > > ANS: OK > > > > 10) K.P. ke aadhar par,jab bhi aap ke kamre men koin > > > > bhi pravesh karega,turant aap unko uska Janma Nakshatra bataa saten > > > > hai...ek chounkane wali baat hain uske liye... ! > > > > Vagera...vagera...vagera... > > > > ANS: I AGREED, BUT YOU PROVE THAT YOUR PADHATHI IS RIGHT? > > > > > > > > Abhi,aap mujhe samjha dijiye ki Karma/destiny kaise > > > > badla ja sakta hai.. > > > > ANS: NO BODY CAN CHANGE THE DESTINY. > > > > Hindu philosophy aur Hindu scriptures aur > > > > Puraanon ke vichaar ke opposite hai...Is janam to uska phal hargis > > > > nahi mil sakta hai...yeh to hum sub jaanten hai...agla janam kisne > > > > dekha hai ? > > > > ANS: BUT YOU SAY THAT KP PADHATHI EXPLAIN PAST-PRESENT AND FUTURE > BIRTH, > > FROM YOUR PRESENT KUNDLI. I THINK BOTH ARE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS. > > > > Magar apko yeh sun kat tajjub zarror hoga ki K.P. se ap > > > > pichle,present aur future janam ke baaten,vartamaan kundalise hi > jaan > > > > sakten hain... ! > > > > ANS: ARE YOU PROVE IT LOGICALLY? > > > > Kaarmic phal to is janam men bhugatna hi padega...karnic > > > > RIN to chukana hi padega...nahi to agle janam me interest ke saath > > > > carry-forward hoga... > > > > ANS: WHAT IS KAARMIC PHAL YA RIN? HOW CAN YOU PROVE IT WILL GO AND > PAY > > WITH INTEREST?.. ARE YOU SHOURE THAT THE PERSON BORN IN A MANUSHYA > YONI > > NOT ANY OTHER YONI? > > > > Krishnmurthi Padhdhati aapka is janam ka Karmic Phal kya > > > > hai...yeh jaan ne ko aapko madadgaar hai... > > > > YEH,EK ASTROLOGY KA SAHI,PRACTICAL AUR UTTAM USE HAI JO > > > > KRISHNAMURTHI PADHDHATI HI AAP KO PRADAAN KARTA HAI...! ! ! ! > > > > ANS: I THINK YOUR BOAT HAS SO MANY HOLES. > > > > > > > > Mera Rajni Khan ko bheja hua e-mail BHI padhiye aur baad > > > > me VISTAAR SE JO BHI JAWAB DENA HAI,TO DE DIJIYE > > > > ANS:DEFINATELLY.... > > > > NOW ONE QUESTION : ARE YOUR BIRTH DATE IS ONE OF 09-18 OR 27? > > > > IN YOUR CHART YOUR SUN-MERC ARE. IN 11TH HOUSE FROM LAGNA? > > > > WITH REGARDS > > > > IN WAITING OF YOUR ANSWER > > > > UMESH SHARMA > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Dear Umeshji, I have,after you challengingly asked me,if I or K.P. can explain the " Rationale " for the years allotted to the various planets in the Dasa...sent the entire article to the editor of this site, written by very eminent,late Pt.Dr.Keshub Ranjan Kar,in the Magazine K.P. & Astrology...Kindly peruse it and let me know your comments...all your queries have been answered,I hope by the late Pt.Kar... You had also asked me for details of my DOB,POB & TOB...which also,I have duly informed you... The ball is in your court now... In all fairness,it is your turn now,to provide me with the rationale,if any, for Lal Kitab " remedies and predictions " ...? ! Am looking forward to your reply,quite eagerly...also what have you gleaned from my Birth Chart ? I hope you will...send a detailed reply... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. > > > Dear Mr. Rao > > PLZ READ MY VIEWS IN CAPITAL LETTERS BELOW YOUR ANSWERS. > > > > Dear Umeshji, > > Pehle aapke prashnon ka jawaab dunga... > > 1) Sub division ka sidhdhant kafi research ke baad hi > > aaya hain...Ek Nakshtra 13* 20' lambayee(length)tak hota > > hai...Traditional astrologers ne us 13*20' ko 9 EQUAL divisions me > > baata tha jisko Navaunsh kehte the...magar Krishnamurthiji ne us me > > bahut sari Khaamiyan payi,unhone adyayan karke,is divisin ko equal se > > badal kar 9 divisions ko har planet ke Dasha ke anusar > > proportionately bhaga... > > ANS:- NAVANSHA IS THE 9TH DIVISION/PART OF THE RASHI NOT OF THE > NAKSHTRA. > > YEH UNKA PEHLA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 2) Adhayan ke baad unhone paya ki bahut bar,ek graha jo > > trikon men swagrahi baitha hai,Dasa/Bhkti/Anthara/sookshma > > me Kharab results deta hai...Is ke adhyayan bhi kiya gaya aur paya > > gaya ki kisi graha ka sub-lord hi nischit karta hai ki woh achcha ya > > kharab effects deyga...the sub-lord decides... > > ANS:- FIRST OF ALL, MY QUESTION IS WHICH DASHA SYSTEM YOU APPLY. IF YOU > APPLY VIMSHOTTRI THAN WHY? WHAT PRINCIPLE USE TO ALLOTMENT THE YEARS TO > PLANETS. AS SUN-6YEARS, MOON-10YEARS ETC.? > > YEH UNKA DOOSRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 3) Jo doosre divisions ka baat jo aap ne likkha hain,K.P. unko nahi > > maanta hai...! > > ANS: OK. > > 4) 249 hi kyon divisions hai ? > > Kyon ki 27 nakshatra ko K.P. ke bhaga jaay to > > totally zodiac men 249 different divisions bante hai... > > Horary Astrology men,is tharah 249 lagna ka > > possibility hai...Kafi Adhyayan ke baad,yeh bhi paaya hai ki,koi ek > > vyakti ek hi prashna ke liye doosra number detaa hai TO BHI RESULT > > NAHI BADALTA HAI...Aap khud ispe adyayan kar saten hai...maine khud > > bahut adhyayan kiya kyon ki mujhe yeh baat patthi nahi thi...magar > > yeh baat SAHI NIKLI... ! > > ANS: WHICH PRINCIPLE USED TO MAKE THIS DIVISION? BECAUSE IF YOU > MULTIPLYTO 27 NAKASHTRAS WITH 9TH THAN 27X9=243, IF WE TAKE 28 NAKSHTRA > THAN 28X9=253, THAN HOW 249.? > > YEH UNKA TEESRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > 5) Gaur karne ki baat yeh hain ki is 249 numbers se > > aap koi bhi prashna,Prashna Kundali se koi bhi sawal ka achuk uttar > > diya ja sakta hain... > > ANS: BUT SIR, FIRST OF ALL, WE DECIDED THAT THIS DIVISION IS PRINCIPLLY > RIGHT?IF YOU SAY IT IS RIGHT THAN PLZ EXPLAIN THE PRINCIPLE. > > YEH UNKA CHAUTHA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > YEH EK UNIVERSAL JOKER BHI HAI... > > KAHI BHI FIT HOTA HAI. > > 6) Is SHODH ke aadhar par,bahut se logon ke common > > sawaal ka uttar accurately diya ja sakta hai...jaise ki : > > a) Mujhe naukri kab milegi ? Multinational Co. me ya > > Indian Co ? b) Meri Co. kya mujhe videsh bhejegi? Kab ? > > c) Meri Shaadi kab hogi ? Love marriage ya arranged ? > > d) Ladki/Ladka kaisa hoga ? Kya karta hoga ? Business > > ya naukri?Videsh men ya yahin ? > > e) Mero aur mere bibi ki nahi patthi hai...kya mamla > > sulajh jayega ? Ha to kab? Nahi to.divorce hoga kyaeparation hoga ? > > > > Is tareh ka prashna ke achuk,aur tarikh ke saath,din > > ke saath jawaab de sakthe hain...! ! > > Aise Jawaab SIRF K.P. ke aadhar pe diya ja saakta > > hai...JISKE LIYE K.P. AAJ FAMOUS HO GAYA HAI... ! ! ! > > ANS: MAY BE YOU ARE RIGHT BUT MY QUESTIOS ARE STILL THERE? > > > > 7) Aur bhi jo bhi Prashna hai main uska vistarit > > jawaab zaroor doonga... > > ANS: THANKS > > 8) Maine aapko pichle mail men Vimshottari Dasa ka > > Rationale(AADHAR),ka reference de chuka hoon...idhar reproduce karna > > mumkin nahin hai...bahut lamba e-mail hoga.. > > ANS: STILL I AM WAITING.. > > 9) Aap ka K.P. par har prashna ka jawaab mai zarror > > aapko duunga...Gulbarga theory to ab bahut kam K.P,.followers waparte > > hai...kyon ki aur accurate methods ka shodh hua hai...aur gulbarga > > theory sirf Yes/No sawal ke liye wapra ja sakta hai...ek shortcut > > method hai... > > ANS: OK > > 10) K.P. ke aadhar par,jab bhi aap ke kamre men koin > > bhi pravesh karega,turant aap unko uska Janma Nakshatra bataa saten > > hai...ek chounkane wali baat hain uske liye... ! > > Vagera...vagera...vagera... > > ANS: I AGREED, BUT YOU PROVE THAT YOUR PADHATHI IS RIGHT? > > > > Abhi,aap mujhe samjha dijiye ki Karma/destiny kaise > > badla ja sakta hai.. > > ANS: NO BODY CAN CHANGE THE DESTINY. > > Hindu philosophy aur Hindu scriptures aur > > Puraanon ke vichaar ke opposite hai...Is janam to uska phal hargis > > nahi mil sakta hai...yeh to hum sub jaanten hai...agla janam kisne > > dekha hai ? > > ANS: BUT YOU SAY THAT KP PADHATHI EXPLAIN PAST-PRESENT AND FUTURE BIRTH, > FROM YOUR PRESENT KUNDLI. I THINK BOTH ARE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS. > > Magar apko yeh sun kat tajjub zarror hoga ki K.P. se ap > > pichle,present aur future janam ke baaten,vartamaan kundalise hi jaan > > sakten hain... ! > > ANS: ARE YOU PROVE IT LOGICALLY? > > Kaarmic phal to is janam men bhugatna hi padega...karnic > > RIN to chukana hi padega...nahi to agle janam me interest ke saath > > carry-forward hoga... > > ANS: WHAT IS KAARMIC PHAL YA RIN? HOW CAN YOU PROVE IT WILL GO AND PAY > WITH INTEREST?.. ARE YOU SHOURE THAT THE PERSON BORN IN A MANUSHYA YONI > NOT ANY OTHER YONI? > > Krishnmurthi Padhdhati aapka is janam ka Karmic Phal kya > > hai...yeh jaan ne ko aapko madadgaar hai... > > YEH,EK ASTROLOGY KA SAHI,PRACTICAL AUR UTTAM USE HAI JO > > KRISHNAMURTHI PADHDHATI HI AAP KO PRADAAN KARTA HAI...! ! ! ! > > ANS: I THINK YOUR BOAT HAS SO MANY HOLES. > > > > Mera Rajni Khan ko bheja hua e-mail BHI padhiye aur baad > > me VISTAAR SE JO BHI JAWAB DENA HAI,TO DE DIJIYE > > ANS:DEFINATELLY.... > > NOW ONE QUESTION : ARE YOUR BIRTH DATE IS ONE OF 09-18 OR 27? > > IN YOUR CHART YOUR SUN-MERC ARE. IN 11TH HOUSE FROM LAGNA? > > WITH REGARDS > > IN WAITING OF YOUR ANSWER > > UMESH SHARMA > > L.Y.Rao. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear Rao ji, plz load the scaaned copy of artical in file Section. It is good for all. Sir, i am not challenging you. I only put my querries. But i am sorry there is no answer from your side. you only prove that your KP system is best all in all. MY QUESTIONS ARE 1. WHAT IS THE RATIONAL OF 249 NOS? IF YOU TAKE 27 NAKSHTRAS THAN 27X9=243, IF YOU TAKE 28 NAKSHTRAS THAN 28 X 9 =252 WHY 249 AND HOW? YOU DO NOT ANSWERED. 2. WHY YOU FORCE TO USE KP AYANANSHA? YOU DO NOT ANSWERED. 3. WHY YOU USE VIMSHOTRI DASA NOT ANY OTHER? YOU DO NOT ANSWER? 4. YOU SAY " Magar apko yeh sun kat tajjub zarror hoga ki K.P. se ap pichle,present aur future janam ke baaten,vartamaan kundalise hi jaan sakten hain... ! " I SAY CAN YOU PROVE IT? YOU DO NOT ANSWERED A. ONE ANOTHER QUESTION:- CAN YOU YOUR STATEMENT WITH ANY SINGLE EXAMPLE WITH PROOFE AS MR. AMAR AGGERWAL GIVE YOU MOBILE NO. OF THE PERSON IN REGARD OF HIS STATEMENT? B. IF YOU PERFRENCE NAKSHTRAS THAN WHAT IS THE ROLE OF RASI AND HOUSE? C. WHICH HOUSE DIVISION METHOD YOU USED AND WHY? I AM STILL WAITING YOUR ANSWERS. NOW IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE LALKITAB RATIONAL THAN YOU CAN PURCHASE THE " LAL-KITAB " WHICH IS PUBLISHED FROM " SAGAR PUBLICATION " DELHI, AUTHOR IS LUXMI VASHISHATH. IT IS IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE. WHEN YOU READ THIS BOOK THAN YOU FIND SO MANY ANSWERS OF YOUR QUERRIES. WITHOUT READING THIS BOOK YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAN OF RATIONAL OF LAL-KITAB. WE ARE WITH YOU TO EXPLAIN THE LAL-KITAB PADHATHI'S PRINCIPLES WHICH YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTAND. IT IS MY BELIEVE IF YOU START TO READ THIS BOOK YOU FORGET OTHER'S PADHATHIES. --IT IS YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BOOK IS BASED ON " TOTKAS " . WHEN YOU READ THIS BOOK YOU NEVER FIND ANY TOTKA IN THIS BOOK. IT IS MIXTURE OF PARASHAR+JAIMINI+ WESTEREN ASTROLOGY. BY HELP OF THIS BOOK YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE KUNDLI IS VERY EASILY AND MAKE UPAYS TO GIVE RELIEF TO YOUR CLIENT IN VERY SHORT TIME. I GIVE YOU A CLUE: IF YOU FIND mERCURY IN 12TH AND RAHU IN 8TH /9TH/11TH. YOU WILL BE FOUND THE NATIVE IS NOT GET SUCCESS IN ANY ASPECT OF LIFE FROM THE AGE OF 17TH TH TILL 42YRS OF AGE. HE SAW HOSPITAL SO MANY TIME IN CHILDHOOD. HIS MAASI( SISTER OF MOTHER) BUA (SISTER OF FATHER) AND HIS OWN SISTER FACES PROBLEMS IN HER LIFE(AS MARRIAGE, HEALTH, FINANCE). NOW HERE SIMPLE PRINCIPLE WORK, MERCURY INFLUENCED BY RAHU FROM HIS SQUARE ASPECT FROM 9TH HOUSE, THERE IS NAVAM-PANCHAM YOGA FROM 8TH HOUSE AND DIVITYA-DAWADASHA YOGA FROM 11TH HOUSE. MERCURY IS SIGNIFICATOR OF SISTER, BUSINESS, FAVOUR FROM SINIORS ETC. SO MY SUGGESTION PLZ READ LAL-KITAB METHOD. YOU WILL FOUND IT IS VERY INTERESTING. IF YOU ABLE TO FIND THIS BOOK THAN WRITE ME I WILL SEND YOU. THANKS REGARDS UMESH SHARMA lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Umeshji, > I have,after you challengingly asked me,if I or K.P. can > explain the " Rationale " for the years allotted to the various planets > in the Dasa...sent the entire article to the editor of this site, > written by very eminent,late Pt.Dr.Keshub Ranjan Kar,in the Magazine > K.P. & Astrology...Kindly peruse it and let me know your > comments...all your queries have been answered,I hope by the late > Pt.Kar... > You had also asked me for details of my DOB,POB & > TOB...which also,I have duly informed you... > The ball is in your court now... > In all fairness,it is your turn now,to provide me with > the rationale,if any, for Lal Kitab " remedies and predictions " ...? ! > Am looking forward to your reply,quite eagerly...also > what have you gleaned from my Birth Chart ? > I hope you will...send a detailed reply... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > Dear Mr. Rao > > > > PLZ READ MY VIEWS IN CAPITAL LETTERS BELOW YOUR ANSWERS. > > > > > > > > Dear Umeshji, > > > > Pehle aapke prashnon ka jawaab dunga... > > > > 1) Sub division ka sidhdhant kafi research ke baad hi > > > > aaya hain...Ek Nakshtra 13* 20' lambayee(length)tak hota > > > > hai...Traditional astrologers ne us 13*20' ko 9 EQUAL divisions me > > > > baata tha jisko Navaunsh kehte the...magar Krishnamurthiji ne us me > > > > bahut sari Khaamiyan payi,unhone adyayan karke,is divisin ko equal > se > > > > badal kar 9 divisions ko har planet ke Dasha ke anusar > > > > proportionately bhaga... > > > > ANS:- NAVANSHA IS THE 9TH DIVISION/PART OF THE RASHI NOT OF THE > > NAKSHTRA. > > > > YEH UNKA PEHLA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 2) Adhayan ke baad unhone paya ki bahut bar,ek graha jo > > > > trikon men swagrahi baitha hai,Dasa/Bhkti/Anthara/sookshma > > > > me Kharab results deta hai...Is ke adhyayan bhi kiya gaya aur paya > > > > gaya ki kisi graha ka sub-lord hi nischit karta hai ki woh achcha ya > > > > kharab effects deyga...the sub-lord decides... > > > > ANS:- FIRST OF ALL, MY QUESTION IS WHICH DASHA SYSTEM YOU APPLY. IF > YOU > > APPLY VIMSHOTTRI THAN WHY? WHAT PRINCIPLE USE TO ALLOTMENT THE > YEARS TO > > PLANETS. AS SUN-6YEARS, MOON-10YEARS ETC.? > > > > YEH UNKA DOOSRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 3) Jo doosre divisions ka baat jo aap ne likkha hain,K.P. unko nahi > > > > maanta hai...! > > > > ANS: OK. > > > > 4) 249 hi kyon divisions hai ? > > > > Kyon ki 27 nakshatra ko K.P. ke bhaga jaay to > > > > totally zodiac men 249 different divisions bante hai... > > > > Horary Astrology men,is tharah 249 lagna ka > > > > possibility hai...Kafi Adhyayan ke baad,yeh bhi paaya hai ki,koi ek > > > > vyakti ek hi prashna ke liye doosra number detaa hai TO BHI RESULT > > > > NAHI BADALTA HAI...Aap khud ispe adyayan kar saten hai...maine khud > > > > bahut adhyayan kiya kyon ki mujhe yeh baat patthi nahi thi...magar > > > > yeh baat SAHI NIKLI... ! > > > > ANS: WHICH PRINCIPLE USED TO MAKE THIS DIVISION? BECAUSE IF YOU > > MULTIPLYTO 27 NAKASHTRAS WITH 9TH THAN 27X9=243, IF WE TAKE 28 > NAKSHTRA > > THAN 28X9=253, THAN HOW 249.? > > > > YEH UNKA TEESRA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > 5) Gaur karne ki baat yeh hain ki is 249 numbers se > > > > aap koi bhi prashna,Prashna Kundali se koi bhi sawal ka achuk uttar > > > > diya ja sakta hain... > > > > ANS: BUT SIR, FIRST OF ALL, WE DECIDED THAT THIS DIVISION IS > PRINCIPLLY > > RIGHT?IF YOU SAY IT IS RIGHT THAN PLZ EXPLAIN THE PRINCIPLE. > > > > YEH UNKA CHAUTHA TURUP KA EKKA THA... > > > > YEH EK UNIVERSAL JOKER BHI HAI... > > > > KAHI BHI FIT HOTA HAI. > > > > 6) Is SHODH ke aadhar par,bahut se logon ke common > > > > sawaal ka uttar accurately diya ja sakta hai...jaise ki : > > > > a) Mujhe naukri kab milegi ? Multinational Co. me ya > > > > Indian Co ? b) Meri Co. kya mujhe videsh bhejegi? Kab ? > > > > c) Meri Shaadi kab hogi ? Love marriage ya arranged ? > > > > d) Ladki/Ladka kaisa hoga ? Kya karta hoga ? Business > > > > ya naukri?Videsh men ya yahin ? > > > > e) Mero aur mere bibi ki nahi patthi hai...kya mamla > > > > sulajh jayega ? Ha to kab? Nahi to.divorce hoga kyaeparation hoga ? > > > > > > > > Is tareh ka prashna ke achuk,aur tarikh ke saath,din > > > > ke saath jawaab de sakthe hain...! ! > > > > Aise Jawaab SIRF K.P. ke aadhar pe diya ja saakta > > > > hai...JISKE LIYE K.P. AAJ FAMOUS HO GAYA HAI... ! ! ! > > > > ANS: MAY BE YOU ARE RIGHT BUT MY QUESTIOS ARE STILL THERE? > > > > > > > > 7) Aur bhi jo bhi Prashna hai main uska vistarit > > > > jawaab zaroor doonga... > > > > ANS: THANKS > > > > 8) Maine aapko pichle mail men Vimshottari Dasa ka > > > > Rationale(AADHAR),ka reference de chuka hoon...idhar reproduce karna > > > > mumkin nahin hai...bahut lamba e-mail hoga.. > > > > ANS: STILL I AM WAITING.. > > > > 9) Aap ka K.P. par har prashna ka jawaab mai zarror > > > > aapko duunga...Gulbarga theory to ab bahut kam K.P,.followers > waparte > > > > hai...kyon ki aur accurate methods ka shodh hua hai...aur gulbarga > > > > theory sirf Yes/No sawal ke liye wapra ja sakta hai...ek shortcut > > > > method hai... > > > > ANS: OK > > > > 10) K.P. ke aadhar par,jab bhi aap ke kamre men koin > > > > bhi pravesh karega,turant aap unko uska Janma Nakshatra bataa saten > > > > hai...ek chounkane wali baat hain uske liye... ! > > > > Vagera...vagera...vagera... > > > > ANS: I AGREED, BUT YOU PROVE THAT YOUR PADHATHI IS RIGHT? > > > > > > > > Abhi,aap mujhe samjha dijiye ki Karma/destiny kaise > > > > badla ja sakta hai.. > > > > ANS: NO BODY CAN CHANGE THE DESTINY. > > > > Hindu philosophy aur Hindu scriptures aur > > > > Puraanon ke vichaar ke opposite hai...Is janam to uska phal hargis > > > > nahi mil sakta hai...yeh to hum sub jaanten hai...agla janam kisne > > > > dekha hai ? > > > > ANS: BUT YOU SAY THAT KP PADHATHI EXPLAIN PAST-PRESENT AND FUTURE > BIRTH, > > FROM YOUR PRESENT KUNDLI. I THINK BOTH ARE CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS. > > > > Magar apko yeh sun kat tajjub zarror hoga ki K.P. se ap > > > > pichle,present aur future janam ke baaten,vartamaan kundalise hi > jaan > > > > sakten hain... ! > > > > ANS: ARE YOU PROVE IT LOGICALLY? > > > > Kaarmic phal to is janam men bhugatna hi padega...karnic > > > > RIN to chukana hi padega...nahi to agle janam me interest ke saath > > > > carry-forward hoga... > > > > ANS: WHAT IS KAARMIC PHAL YA RIN? HOW CAN YOU PROVE IT WILL GO AND > PAY > > WITH INTEREST?.. ARE YOU SHOURE THAT THE PERSON BORN IN A MANUSHYA > YONI > > NOT ANY OTHER YONI? > > > > Krishnmurthi Padhdhati aapka is janam ka Karmic Phal kya > > > > hai...yeh jaan ne ko aapko madadgaar hai... > > > > YEH,EK ASTROLOGY KA SAHI,PRACTICAL AUR UTTAM USE HAI JO > > > > KRISHNAMURTHI PADHDHATI HI AAP KO PRADAAN KARTA HAI...! ! ! ! > > > > ANS: I THINK YOUR BOAT HAS SO MANY HOLES. > > > > > > > > Mera Rajni Khan ko bheja hua e-mail BHI padhiye aur baad > > > > me VISTAAR SE JO BHI JAWAB DENA HAI,TO DE DIJIYE > > > > ANS:DEFINATELLY.... > > > > NOW ONE QUESTION : ARE YOUR BIRTH DATE IS ONE OF 09-18 OR 27? > > > > IN YOUR CHART YOUR SUN-MERC ARE. IN 11TH HOUSE FROM LAGNA? > > > > WITH REGARDS > > > > IN WAITING OF YOUR ANSWER > > > > UMESH SHARMA > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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