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dear,

 

time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new

panchangan required.

 

regards.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb "

<narsingrajb wrote:

>

> Dear Jyotish ratnas,

>

> Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the

children

> born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best time of

> birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA ON

ANY

> PARTICULAR GOOD TIME .

>

> Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as per

the

> Jyotish Shastra ??

>

> pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons till

date

>

> with regards

>

> B. NARSING RAJ

> MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM )

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dear friends ,

 

i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. share your experiences

about

fixing of ceserian births.

 

let us have a complete healthy discussions as per astrological point.

 

with regards,

 

Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote:

dear,

 

time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new

panchangan required.

 

regards.

 

jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb "

<narsingrajb wrote:

>

> Dear Jyotish ratnas,

>

> Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the

children

> born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best time of

> birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA ON

ANY

> PARTICULAR GOOD TIME .

>

> Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as per

the

> Jyotish Shastra ??

>

> pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons till

date

>

> with regards

>

> B. NARSING RAJ

> MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM )

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Funny that a lot of people who come to me for astrology consultations often

ask me if it makes any difference to have had a cesarean and they tell me

that maybe the date of birth should be different because they were supposed

to have been born one week after, etc... I am convinced that what matters is

when a child comes to be in contact with the air, the elements outside its

mothers womb, which will colour his or her complexion, etc... but I can be

wrong...

best wishes, Rui.

 

On 29/05/07, NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote:

>

> dear friends ,

>

> i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. share your experiences

> about

> fixing of ceserian births.

>

> let us have a complete healthy discussions as per astrological point.

>

> with regards,

>

> Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 <sanaloe64%40.co.in>> wrote:

> dear,

>

> time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new

> panchangan required.

>

> regards.

>

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

> " narsingrajb "

> <narsingrajb wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jyotish ratnas,

> >

> > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the

> children

> > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best time of

> > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA ON

> ANY

> > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME .

> >

> > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as per

> the

> > Jyotish Shastra ??

> >

> > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons till

> date

> >

> > with regards

> >

> > B. NARSING RAJ

> > MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM )

> >

>

> B.NARSING RAJ

> M.Tech., M.B.A.

> MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING

> M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED,

> MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144

>

>

> Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here!

>

>

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I essentially agree. I believe the birth time is when the baby is

breathing on its own after delivery, outside the womb. The significant

astrological event is the first breath.

 

Best Regards,

A.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , rupamede <rupamede wrote:

>

> Funny that a lot of people who come to me for astrology

consultations often

> ask me if it makes any difference to have had a cesarean and they

tell me

> that maybe the date of birth should be different because they were

supposed

> to have been born one week after, etc... I am convinced that what

matters is

> when a child comes to be in contact with the air, the elements

outside its

> mothers womb, which will colour his or her complexion, etc... but I

can be

> wrong...

> best wishes, Rui.

>

> On 29/05/07, NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote:

> >

> > dear friends ,

> >

> > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. share your

experiences

> > about

> > fixing of ceserian births.

> >

> > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per astrological point.

> >

> > with regards,

> >

> > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 <sanaloe64%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > dear,

> >

> > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new

> > panchangan required.

> >

> > regards.

> >

> > jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>,

> > " narsingrajb "

> > <narsingrajb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotish ratnas,

> > >

> > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the

> > children

> > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best time of

> > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA ON

> > ANY

> > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME .

> > >

> > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as per

> > the

> > > Jyotish Shastra ??

> > >

> > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons till

> > date

> > >

> > > with regards

> > >

> > > B. NARSING RAJ

> > > MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM )

> > >

> >

> > B.NARSING RAJ

> > M.Tech., M.B.A.

> > MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING

> > M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED,

> > MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144

> >

> >

> > Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here!

> >

> >

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Dear Narasing Raj,

 

Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what

matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to the

forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there

should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in

which the baby comes out is different.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote:

 

> dear friends ,

>

> i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. share

> your experiences about

> fixing of ceserian births.

>

> let us have a complete healthy discussions as per

> astrological point.

>

> with regards,

>

> Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote:

> dear,

>

> time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new

> panchangan required.

>

> regards.

>

> jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb "

> <narsingrajb wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jyotish ratnas,

> >

> > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the

> children

> > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best

> time of

> > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA

> ON

> ANY

> > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME .

> >

> > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as

> per

> the

> > Jyotish Shastra ??

> >

> > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons

> till

> date

> >

> > with regards

> >

> > B. NARSING RAJ

> > MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM )

> >

B.NARSING RAJ

> M.Tech., M.B.A.

> MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING

> M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED,

> MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144

>

>

>

> Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here!

>

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Dear List,

 

I would like to ask this person to consider another situation.

 

One should really ask himself or herself whether any body really

wants to fix time for one's own end i.e. choosing better muhurtha. No

body does that. Why? You have no choice. (Of course the elevated

Souls, did choose the best available muhurtha for that purpose i.e.

for attaining Samadhi. Generally, they choose the periods connected

to the 5th Lord or the 9th lord of their charts. The Sun would be in

Uttrayana. Moon is in the course of Sukla Paksha. )

 

I am talking of the ordinary mortals. There are unnatural ends that

are termed as " suicides " . They may think before taking that step I

chosen my end and got solution for the problems and sufferings. Still

it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of death. The dashas

and the transits clearly show that. Neither a doctor nor an

astrologer does that. The money minded astrologers do all this kind

of gimmicks.

 

Absolutely you have no choice in certain areas of life viz taking

birth to a particular parent; the gender; the order of your birth to

a particular parent; in a particular country and the time of birth.

It is all predestined.

 

Swamy.

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Dear Swamy,

 

//There are unnatural ends that are termed as " suicides " . They may think

before taking that step I chosen my end and got solution for the problems

and sufferings. Still it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of

death. The dashas and the transits clearly show that.//

 

This is absolutely true!!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:27 PM

Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN

 

 

Dear List,

 

I would like to ask this person to consider another situation.

 

One should really ask himself or herself whether any body really

wants to fix time for one's own end i.e. choosing better muhurtha. No

body does that. Why? You have no choice. (Of course the elevated

Souls, did choose the best available muhurtha for that purpose i.e.

for attaining Samadhi. Generally, they choose the periods connected

to the 5th Lord or the 9th lord of their charts. The Sun would be in

Uttrayana. Moon is in the course of Sukla Paksha. )

 

I am talking of the ordinary mortals. There are unnatural ends that

are termed as " suicides " . They may think before taking that step I

chosen my end and got solution for the problems and sufferings. Still

it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of death. The dashas

and the transits clearly show that. Neither a doctor nor an

astrologer does that. The money minded astrologers do all this kind

of gimmicks.

 

Absolutely you have no choice in certain areas of life viz taking

birth to a particular parent; the gender; the order of your birth to

a particular parent; in a particular country and the time of birth.

It is all predestined.

 

Swamy.

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

The event could be related to his business....involving some

partnership deal....

 

It certainly involves some kind of dignity/recognition

 

Swamy.

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dear friends,

 

i have come across certain births, where it was made sure that delivery can be

made only by ceserian due to the problem of natural delivery to mother,

 

in that case doctor has given 4-6 hours of time for operation, then

we have selected the possible best time for ceserian and the same has done

successfull.

 

now both the mother as well as child are fine and they are happy over all

 

TIME OF BIRTH : 11.43 am

DATE : 15 SEPTEMBER 2002

PLACE : WANAPARTHY ( MAHBOOB NAGAR ) A.P.

LATITUDE : 16DEG 22 MIN

LONGITUDE : 78 DEG 04 MIN.

 

EXPECTED TIME OF CESERIAN WAS BETWEEN MORNING 8.00 AM TO

12.00 NOON.

 

PL. CHECK AND COMMENT, POSSIBILITY OF BEST TIME OTHER THAN THE ABOVE.

 

REGARDS

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear Swamy,

 

//There are unnatural ends that are termed as " suicides " . They may think

before taking that step I chosen my end and got solution for the problems

and sufferings. Still it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of

death. The dashas and the transits clearly show that.//

 

This is absolutely true!!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

-

" muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:27 PM

Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN

 

Dear List,

 

I would like to ask this person to consider another situation.

 

One should really ask himself or herself whether any body really

wants to fix time for one's own end i.e. choosing better muhurtha. No

body does that. Why? You have no choice. (Of course the elevated

Souls, did choose the best available muhurtha for that purpose i.e.

for attaining Samadhi. Generally, they choose the periods connected

to the 5th Lord or the 9th lord of their charts. The Sun would be in

Uttrayana. Moon is in the course of Sukla Paksha. )

 

I am talking of the ordinary mortals. There are unnatural ends that

are termed as " suicides " . They may think before taking that step I

chosen my end and got solution for the problems and sufferings. Still

it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of death. The dashas

and the transits clearly show that. Neither a doctor nor an

astrologer does that. The money minded astrologers do all this kind

of gimmicks.

 

Absolutely you have no choice in certain areas of life viz taking

birth to a particular parent; the gender; the order of your birth to

a particular parent; in a particular country and the time of birth.

It is all predestined.

 

Swamy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

B.NARSING RAJ

M.Tech., M.B.A.

MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING

M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED,

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Dear Narasing Raj,

 

It is not necessary to check if a better timing could have been

arrived at or not. Because, such an exercise only proves who is

a better astrologer. Is that what you want to find out? I guess

not.

 

Next, what you seem to be saying is - someone arrived at the

best timing for birth given the range of 4-6 hours and your

docter was able to deliver it and that concludes it is possible

to engineer the time of birth. If you are saying this, it

appears that you missed the essence of discussion on this topic

so far.

 

I don't have anything more to add on this topic.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote:

 

> dear friends,

>

> i have come across certain births, where it was made sure

> that delivery can be made only by ceserian due to the problem

> of natural delivery to mother,

>

> in that case doctor has given 4-6 hours of time for

> operation, then

> we have selected the possible best time for ceserian and the

> same has done successfull.

>

> now both the mother as well as child are fine and they are

> happy over all

>

> TIME OF BIRTH : 11.43 am

> DATE : 15 SEPTEMBER 2002

> PLACE : WANAPARTHY ( MAHBOOB NAGAR ) A.P.

> LATITUDE : 16DEG 22 MIN

> LONGITUDE : 78 DEG 04 MIN.

>

> EXPECTED TIME OF CESERIAN WAS BETWEEN MORNING 8.00 AM TO

> 12.00 NOON.

>

> PL. CHECK AND COMMENT, POSSIBILITY OF BEST TIME OTHER THAN

> THE ABOVE.

>

> REGARDS

>

> Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

> Dear Swamy,

>

> //There are unnatural ends that are termed as " suicides " . They

> may think

> before taking that step I chosen my end and got solution for

> the problems

> and sufferings. Still it is reflected in their charts i.e. the

> mode of

> death. The dashas and the transits clearly show that.//

>

> This is absolutely true!!

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

> -

> " muthukumaraswamydesigar "

> <muthukumaraswamydesigar

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:27 PM

> Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN

> CHILDREN

>

> Dear List,

>

> I would like to ask this person to consider another situation.

>

> One should really ask himself or herself whether any body

> really

> wants to fix time for one's own end i.e. choosing better

> muhurtha. No

> body does that. Why? You have no choice. (Of course the

> elevated

> Souls, did choose the best available muhurtha for that purpose

> i.e.

> for attaining Samadhi. Generally, they choose the periods

> connected

> to the 5th Lord or the 9th lord of their charts. The Sun would

> be in

> Uttrayana. Moon is in the course of Sukla Paksha. )

>

> I am talking of the ordinary mortals. There are unnatural ends

> that

> are termed as " suicides " . They may think before taking that

> step I

> chosen my end and got solution for the problems and

> sufferings. Still

> it is reflected in their charts i.e. the mode of death. The

> dashas

> and the transits clearly show that. Neither a doctor nor an

> astrologer does that. The money minded astrologers do all this

> kind

> of gimmicks.

>

> Absolutely you have no choice in certain areas of life viz

> taking

> birth to a particular parent; the gender; the order of your

> birth to

> a particular parent; in a particular country and the time of

> birth.

> It is all predestined.

>

> Swamy.

B.NARSING RAJ

> M.Tech., M.B.A.

> MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING

> M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED,

> MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144

>

>

>

> Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser,

> without download.

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Dear Narsing Raj,

 

The conditions at time of birth (delivery) are seen from lagna. For this

native, Scorpio rises in nakshatra of Saturn. Note Saturn in 8th house (in

nakshatra of lagnesh Mars) aspecting Sun/Mars and Moon (mother). Ketu in

lagna also suggests unusual circumstances.

 

Perhaps you could add your thoughts on this...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" NARSING RAJ BANDARI " <narsingrajb

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:35 PM

Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN

 

 

dear friends,

 

i have come across certain births, where it was made sure that delivery

can be made only by ceserian due to the problem of natural delivery to

mother,

 

in that case doctor has given 4-6 hours of time for operation, then

we have selected the possible best time for ceserian and the same has done

successfull.

 

now both the mother as well as child are fine and they are happy over all

 

TIME OF BIRTH : 11.43 am

DATE : 15 SEPTEMBER 2002

PLACE : WANAPARTHY ( MAHBOOB NAGAR ) A.P.

LATITUDE : 16DEG 22 MIN

LONGITUDE : 78 DEG 04 MIN.

 

EXPECTED TIME OF CESERIAN WAS BETWEEN MORNING 8.00 AM TO

12.00 NOON.

 

PL. CHECK AND COMMENT, POSSIBILITY OF BEST TIME OTHER THAN THE ABOVE.

 

REGARDS

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Cursory glance over the chart reveals that the mother had to under go

troubles in the hospital This transit (birth of the child) has to be

seen in correlation with her chart.

 

1. From the Lagna, two malefics aspecting the 4th house. The

fourth lord goes to 8th house.

 

2. From the Moon, the 4th lord Jupiter moves to 8th house. The

fourth house aspected by malefic Saturn.

 

3. This analysis holds good from the Karaka Moon, the mother.

 

At the time of birth the child was enjoying the dasha of

Venus/Moon/Jupiter. Venus, the 12th lord in 12th. Bukti Lord Moon

is aspected by a malefic from the 8th.

 

Now see the chart from the point of view of Muhurtha.

 

No benefics in Kendra. All malefics are in Kendra. The benefic

Venus in 12th. Benefics in 6, 8 & 12 are wasted benefics not only

from the point of view of natal analysis but also from the point of

view of muhurtha, for this kind of activity. Another benefic Mercury

is in 11th . (11th house is meant to accommodate a malefic for the

purpose of any muhurtha.) The 8th house has the malefic Saturn.

(8th house should be free from occupation) Jupiter's exaltation in

9th is the only appreciable position and this placement saved the

child. I don't wish to elaborate further. It is a chart of a child,

not even completed half of the age of prescribed limit for any

astrological analysis. If somebody claims this is a laudable

muhurtha for the purpose……. I wish to keep myself silent on this

point.

 

Swamy.

 

PS: Of course, Saturn's placement in 8th is promising the

longevity. The Jupiter's saving grace was already talked of.

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Dear Swamy,

 

//If somebody claims this is a laudable muhurtha for the

purpose……. I wish to keep myself silent on this point.//

 

Well said! This clearly indicates that the astrologer who gave

the muhurtha was a mere puppet in the hands of natural forces!

 

He thought that he is deciding the best muhurtha for the child

and eventually gave a muhurtha that was pre-destined.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- muthukumaraswamydesigar <muthukumaraswamydesigar

wrote:

 

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Cursory glance over the chart reveals that the mother had to

> under go

> troubles in the hospital This transit (birth of the child)

> has to be

> seen in correlation with her chart.

>

> 1. From the Lagna, two malefics aspecting the 4th house. The

> fourth lord goes to 8th house.

>

> 2. From the Moon, the 4th lord Jupiter moves to 8th house.

> The

> fourth house aspected by malefic Saturn.

>

> 3. This analysis holds good from the Karaka Moon, the mother.

>

> At the time of birth the child was enjoying the dasha of

> Venus/Moon/Jupiter. Venus, the 12th lord in 12th. Bukti

> Lord Moon

> is aspected by a malefic from the 8th.

>

> Now see the chart from the point of view of Muhurtha.

>

> No benefics in Kendra. All malefics are in Kendra. The

> benefic

> Venus in 12th. Benefics in 6, 8 & 12 are wasted benefics not

> only

> from the point of view of natal analysis but also from the

> point of

> view of muhurtha, for this kind of activity. Another benefic

> Mercury

> is in 11th . (11th house is meant to accommodate a malefic

> for the

> purpose of any muhurtha.) The 8th house has the malefic

> Saturn.

> (8th house should be free from occupation) Jupiter's

> exaltation in

> 9th is the only appreciable position and this placement saved

> the

> child. I don't wish to elaborate further. It is a chart of a

> child,

> not even completed half of the age of prescribed limit for any

>

> astrological analysis. If somebody claims this is a laudable

>

> muhurtha for the purpose……. I wish to keep myself silent on

> this

> point.

>

> Swamy.

>

> PS: Of course, Saturn's placement in 8th is promising the

> longevity. The Jupiter's saving grace was already talked of.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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