Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dear Mr. Narasing Raj, I not only appreciate your curiosity of " fixing time of birth in a preplanned manner " so as to have a " good " lagna for " good " results, but I also admit that upto a certain stage of experience astrologers TEND TO GET TEMPTED to think this way.. even I used to, once upon a time. BUT dear friend, after lot of experiences, I have come to a conclusion that MAN CANNOT RULE ANY ONE'S DESTINY. In my new days of astrology, I had done this futile exercise, but I saw that GOD does only what He wants.. some time the surgeon gets stuck somewhere.. some times the Head nurse is unable to arrange the operation theatre..some time the oxygen cylinder nozzle does not work...some times the " to-be-mother " suddenly develops Blood pressure (which she never had in her life.. not even during the pregnancy)and the surgery is held back for some time... and all sorts of other ancilliary problems! In one so well organized (?) case, things would have happened the way they were " planned " but for the most unexpected development that the person who was sent to Blood bank to fetch blood was bit by a stray dog and he was late by almost one hour and the lagna changed! ... No, my friend, don't try to find any thing geniune in these reasons.. they are just ACTS OF GOD TO COUNTER OUR WILL (ILL-WILL?) TO SUPERSEDE HIM. Last but not the least, I am yet to see a horoscope which is " good " in every respect. I feel, a horoscope is just like a water in a plastic packet - you try to press one corner and the other corner bulges! IS IT NOT SUFFICIENT THAT WE ONLY TRY TO READ (AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE) WHAT GOD WRITES AND NOT WRITE OURSELVES? With Warm Regards Satish Kingi On Wed, 30 May 2007 Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote : >Dear Narasing Raj, > >Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what >matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to the >forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there >should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in >which the baby comes out is different. > >Regards, >Krishna > >--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > > > dear friends , > > > > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. share > > your experiences about > > fixing of ceserian births. > > > > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per > > astrological point. > > > > with regards, > > > > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote: > > dear, > > > > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire new > > panchangan required. > > > > regards. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb " > > <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jyotish ratnas, > > > > > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on the > > children > > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the best > > time of > > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired LAGNA > > ON > > ANY > > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME . > > > > > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results as > > per > > the > > > Jyotish Shastra ?? > > > > > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any persons > > till > > date > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > B. NARSING RAJ > > > MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B.NARSING RAJ > > M.Tech., M.B.A. > > MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING > > M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED, > > MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144 > > > > > > > > Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dear Satish, This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like coming from my mind! Thanks for your post. Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world is pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, go ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this world is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I am not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) is only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these vasanas influence the actions to a great extent, the will and determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand Plan of the natural forces. Regards, Krishna --- satish kingi <astrokinghyd wrote: > Dear Mr. Narasing Raj, > I not only appreciate your curiosity of " fixing time of birth > in a preplanned manner " so as to have a " good " lagna for > " good " results, but I also admit that upto a certain stage of > experience astrologers TEND TO GET TEMPTED to think this way.. > even I used to, once upon a time. > BUT dear friend, after lot of experiences, I have come to a > conclusion that MAN CANNOT RULE ANY ONE'S DESTINY. In my new > days of astrology, I had done this futile exercise, but I saw > that GOD does only what He wants.. some time the surgeon gets > stuck somewhere.. some times the Head nurse is unable to > arrange the operation theatre..some time the oxygen cylinder > nozzle does not work...some times the " to-be-mother " suddenly > develops Blood pressure (which she never had in her life.. > not even during the pregnancy)and the surgery is held back for > some time... and all sorts of other ancilliary problems! In > one so well organized (?) case, things would have happened the > way they were " planned " but for the most unexpected > development that the person who was sent to Blood bank to > fetch blood was bit by a stray dog and he was late by almost > one hour and the lagna changed! ... No, my friend, don't try > to find any thing geniune in these reasons.. they are just > ACTS OF GOD TO COUNTER OUR WILL (ILL-WILL?) TO SUPERSEDE HIM. > > Last but not the least, I am yet to see a horoscope which is > " good " in every respect. I feel, a horoscope is just like a > water in a plastic packet - you try to press one corner and > the other corner bulges! IS IT NOT SUFFICIENT THAT WE > ONLY TRY TO READ (AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE) WHAT GOD WRITES AND > NOT WRITE OURSELVES? > With Warm Regards > Satish Kingi > > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007 Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote : > >Dear Narasing Raj, > > > >Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what > >matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to > the > >forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there > >should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in > >which the baby comes out is different. > > > >Regards, > >Krishna > > > >--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > dear friends , > > > > > > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. > share > > > your experiences about > > > fixing of ceserian births. > > > > > > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per > > > astrological point. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote: > > > dear, > > > > > > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire > new > > > panchangan required. > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb " > > > <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotish ratnas, > > > > > > > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on > the > > > children > > > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the > best > > > time of > > > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired > LAGNA > > > ON > > > ANY > > > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME . > > > > > > > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results > as > > > per > > > the > > > > Jyotish Shastra ?? > > > > > > > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any > persons > > > till > > > date > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > B. NARSING RAJ > > > > MOBILE : 9810314144 ( ONLY NIGHT TIME AFTER 9.00 PM ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B.NARSING RAJ > > > M.Tech., M.B.A. > > > MANAGER - TOOL ENGINEERING > > > M/S. HERO HONDA MOTORS LIMITED, > > > MOBILE NO. +919810314144,+919910314144 > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dear Krishna, //I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand Plan of the natural forces.// This is absolutely true! Everything happens exactly as it's meant to...no deviations are possible. It makes no difference whether a doctor decides to deliver via caesarean section for medical reasons, or whether the mother herself decides for the sake of convenience. The circumstances of birth are preordained and, although we may believe the decision is ours to make, the reality is that our decisions are influenced (and yes, we can say, ordained) by the navagrahas. We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts (and resulting actions) arise? " Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:25 PM Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN Dear Satish, This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like coming from my mind! Thanks for your post. Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world is pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, go ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this world is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I am not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) is only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these vasanas influence the actions to a great extent, the will and determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand Plan of the natural forces. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 dear friends, Thanks for joining the discussion of ceserian births, I have seen some of the cases where the deliveries of babies has been done with pre-determined time successfully, As you told that this may be the gods grace or the babies are lucky enough to take birth in pre determined lagnas. but pl. tell me in such cases where the birth has taken place as per plan and gods grace present, then can we consider that these babies are lucky enough, and the horoscope of these babies will be in the same line with the natural born babies horoscopes. or other wise we did not have to take considerations of such cases, as per PARASHARA these types of birth are not been discussed. kindly give some focus on the successful cases and share y our experience. with regards Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Satish, This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like coming from my mind! Thanks for your post. Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world is pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, go ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this world is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I am not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) is only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these vasanas influence the actions to a great extent, the will and determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand Plan of the natural forces. Regards, Krishna --- satish kingi <astrokinghyd wrote: > Dear Mr. Narasing Raj, > I not only appreciate your curiosity of " fixing time of birth > in a preplanned manner " so as to have a " good " lagna for > " good " results, but I also admit that upto a certain stage of > experience astrologers TEND TO GET TEMPTED to think this way.. > even I used to, once upon a time. > BUT dear friend, after lot of experiences, I have come to a > conclusion that MAN CANNOT RULE ANY ONE'S DESTINY. In my new > days of astrology, I had done this futile exercise, but I saw > that GOD does only what He wants.. some time the surgeon gets > stuck somewhere.. some times the Head nurse is unable to > arrange the operation theatre..some time the oxygen cylinder > nozzle does not work...some times the " to-be-mother " suddenly > develops Blood pressure (which she never had in her life.. > not even during the pregnancy)and the surgery is held back for > some time... and all sorts of other ancilliary problems! In > one so well organized (?) case, things would have happened the > way they were " planned " but for the most unexpected > development that the person who was sent to Blood bank to > fetch blood was bit by a stray dog and he was late by almost > one hour and the lagna changed! ... No, my friend, don't try > to find any thing geniune in these reasons.. they are just > ACTS OF GOD TO COUNTER OUR WILL (ILL-WILL?) TO SUPERSEDE HIM. > > Last but not the least, I am yet to see a horoscope which is > " good " in every respect. I feel, a horoscope is just like a > water in a plastic packet - you try to press one corner and > the other corner bulges! IS IT NOT SUFFICIENT THAT WE > ONLY TRY TO READ (AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE) WHAT GOD WRITES AND > NOT WRITE OURSELVES? > With Warm Regards > Satish Kingi > > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007 Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote : > >Dear Narasing Raj, > > > >Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what > >matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to > the > >forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there > >should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in > >which the baby comes out is different. > > > >Regards, > >Krishna > > > >--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > dear friends , > > > > > > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. > share > > > your experiences about > > > fixing of ceserian births. > > > > > > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per > > > astrological point. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote: > > > dear, > > > > > > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire > new > > > panchangan required. > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb " > > > <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotish ratnas, > > > > > > > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on > the > > > children > > > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the > best > > > time of > > > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired > LAGNA > > > ON > > > ANY > > > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME . > > > > > > > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results > as > > > per > > > the > > > > Jyotish Shastra ?? > > > > > > > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any > persons > > > till > > > date > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > B. 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Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dear Narasing Raj, //can we consider that these babies are lucky enough, and the horoscope of these babies will be in the same line with the natural born babies horoscopes// It is surprising that you are asking this question again in spite of many members answering in no uncertain terms! Regards, Krishna --- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > dear friends, > > > Thanks for joining the discussion of ceserian births, I have > seen some of the cases where the deliveries of babies has been > done with pre-determined > time successfully, As you told that this may be the gods > grace or > the babies are lucky enough to take birth in pre determined > lagnas. > > but pl. tell me in such cases where the birth has taken > place as per > plan and gods grace present, then can we consider that these > > babies are lucky enough, and the horoscope of these babies > will > be in the same line with the natural born babies horoscopes. > > or other wise we did not have to take considerations of such > cases, > as per PARASHARA these types of birth are not been > discussed. > > kindly give some focus on the successful cases and share y > our > experience. > > with regards > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like > coming > from my mind! Thanks for your post. > > Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world > is > pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, > go > ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this > world > is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is > pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I > am > not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) > is > only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these > vasanas > influence the actions to a great extent, the will and > determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. > > I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand > Plan of the natural forces. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- satish kingi <astrokinghyd wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Narasing Raj, > > I not only appreciate your curiosity of " fixing time of > birth > > in a preplanned manner " so as to have a " good " lagna for > > " good " results, but I also admit that upto a certain stage > of > > experience astrologers TEND TO GET TEMPTED to think this > way.. > > even I used to, once upon a time. > > BUT dear friend, after lot of experiences, I have come to a > > conclusion that MAN CANNOT RULE ANY ONE'S DESTINY. In my new > > days of astrology, I had done this futile exercise, but I > saw > > that GOD does only what He wants.. some time the surgeon > gets > > stuck somewhere.. some times the Head nurse is unable to > > arrange the operation theatre..some time the oxygen cylinder > > nozzle does not work...some times the " to-be-mother " > suddenly > > develops Blood pressure (which she never had in her life.. > > not even during the pregnancy)and the surgery is held back > for > > some time... and all sorts of other ancilliary problems! In > > one so well organized (?) case, things would have happened > the > > way they were " planned " but for the most unexpected > > development that the person who was sent to Blood bank to > > fetch blood was bit by a stray dog and he was late by almost > > one hour and the lagna changed! ... No, my friend, don't try > > to find any thing geniune in these reasons.. they are just > > ACTS OF GOD TO COUNTER OUR WILL (ILL-WILL?) TO SUPERSEDE > HIM. > > > > Last but not the least, I am yet to see a horoscope which is > > " good " in every respect. I feel, a horoscope is just like a > > water in a plastic packet - you try to press one corner and > > the other corner bulges! IS IT NOT SUFFICIENT THAT WE > > ONLY TRY TO READ (AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE) WHAT GOD WRITES > AND > > NOT WRITE OURSELVES? > > With Warm Regards > > Satish Kingi > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007 Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote : > > >Dear Narasing Raj, > > > > > >Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what > > >matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to > > the > > >forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there > > >should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in > > >which the baby comes out is different. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Krishna > > > > > >--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > > dear friends , > > > > > > > > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. > > share > > > > your experiences about > > > > fixing of ceserian births. > > > > > > > > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per > > > > astrological point. > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote: > > > > dear, > > > > > > > > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire > > new > > > > panchangan required. > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb " > > > > <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotish ratnas, > > > > > > > > > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on > > the > > > > children > > > > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the > > best > > > > time of > > > > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired > > LAGNA > > > > ON > > > > ANY > > > > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME . > > > > > > > > > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the > results > > as > > > > per > > > > the > > > > > Jyotish Shastra ?? > > > > > > > > > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any > > persons > > > > till > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > B. 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Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dear Wendy, //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts (and resulting actions) arise? " // Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the > Grand > Plan of the natural forces.// > > This is absolutely true! Everything happens exactly as it's > meant to...no > deviations are possible. It makes no difference whether a > doctor decides to > deliver via caesarean section for medical reasons, or whether > the mother > herself decides for the sake of convenience. The circumstances > of birth are > preordained and, although we may believe the decision is ours > to make, the > reality is that our decisions are influenced (and yes, we can > say, ordained) > by the navagrahas. > > We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts > (and resulting > actions) arise? " > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:25 PM > Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN > BORN CHILDREN > > > Dear Satish, > > This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like > coming > from my mind! Thanks for your post. > > Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world > is > pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, > go > ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this > world > is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is > pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I > am > not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) > is > only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these > vasanas > influence the actions to a great extent, the will and > determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. > > I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand > Plan of the natural forces. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > ______________________________\ ____Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Krishna and All, The mothers chart (dasas/transits) will indicate the circumstances relating to (a particular) delivery i.e., difficult delivery (complications), surgical intervention (caesarean section) etc.. My own (2nd child) is a prime example of this - a most difficult delivery in which both mother and child were in mortal danger throughout the long ordeal. My Son was born with 8th lord Moon in lagna. For me, Moon, dispositor of JU/RA, was transiting my 12th house (Sagittarius). It would be good (for study) if we could locate some (mother/child) charts of caesarean birth. For those interested the charts of my Son/Self follow. Myself: 4 Sep 1943 (4:20pm), Melbourne, Australia. Son (David): 29 Oct 1964 (10:01am), Warrnambool, Australia. PS: A quiz; There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for something obscure :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:53 AM Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN Dear Wendy, //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts (and resulting actions) arise? " // Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Wendy, //There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for something obscure :-)// Was this a religious event? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna and All, > > The mothers chart (dasas/transits) will indicate the > circumstances relating > to (a particular) delivery i.e., difficult delivery > (complications), > surgical intervention (caesarean section) etc.. > > My own (2nd child) is a prime example of this - a most > difficult delivery in > which both mother and child were in mortal danger throughout > the long > ordeal. My Son was born with 8th lord Moon in lagna. For me, > Moon, > dispositor of JU/RA, was transiting my 12th house > (Sagittarius). > > It would be good (for study) if we could locate some > (mother/child) charts > of caesarean birth. > > For those interested the charts of my Son/Self follow. > > Myself: 4 Sep 1943 (4:20pm), Melbourne, Australia. > Son (David): 29 Oct 1964 (10:01am), Warrnambool, Australia. > > PS: A quiz; > There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago > (which has kept > my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see > this in David's > chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for > something obscure :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:53 AM > Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN > BORN CHILDREN > > > Dear Wendy, > > //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts > (and resulting actions) arise? " // > > Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > > ______________________________\ ____Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Krishna, It was not a religious event nor was it connected with unearned wealth... NB: The year of birth is 1965 - not 1964 as I erroneously gave in earlier mail. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:02 PM Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN BORN CHILDREN Dear Wendy, //There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...no need to look for something obscure :-)// Was this a religious event? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Wendy, Unearned wealth. Ra seems to be well placed in Ge Regards, Anna Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Wendy, //There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for something obscure :-)// Was this a religious event? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna and All, > > The mothers chart (dasas/transits) will indicate the > circumstances relating > to (a particular) delivery i.e., difficult delivery > (complications), > surgical intervention (caesarean section) etc.. > > My own (2nd child) is a prime example of this - a most > difficult delivery in > which both mother and child were in mortal danger throughout > the long > ordeal. My Son was born with 8th lord Moon in lagna. For me, > Moon, > dispositor of JU/RA, was transiting my 12th house > (Sagittarius). > > It would be good (for study) if we could locate some > (mother/child) charts > of caesarean birth. > > For those interested the charts of my Son/Self follow. > > Myself: 4 Sep 1943 (4:20pm), Melbourne, Australia. > Son (David): 29 Oct 1964 (10:01am), Warrnambool, Australia. > > PS: A quiz; > There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago > (which has kept > my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see > this in David's > chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for > something obscure :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:53 AM > Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN > BORN CHILDREN > > > Dear Wendy, > > //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts > (and resulting actions) arise? " // > > Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > > ________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Sorry, wrong chart. 1965 has Moon 8th Lord in 1st. -Job offer abroad? " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote: Dear Wendy, Unearned wealth. Ra seems to be well placed in Ge Regards, Anna Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Wendy, //There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for something obscure :-)// Was this a religious event? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna and All, > > The mothers chart (dasas/transits) will indicate the > circumstances relating > to (a particular) delivery i.e., difficult delivery > (complications), > surgical intervention (caesarean section) etc.. > > My own (2nd child) is a prime example of this - a most > difficult delivery in > which both mother and child were in mortal danger throughout > the long > ordeal. My Son was born with 8th lord Moon in lagna. For me, > Moon, > dispositor of JU/RA, was transiting my 12th house > (Sagittarius). > > It would be good (for study) if we could locate some > (mother/child) charts > of caesarean birth. > > For those interested the charts of my Son/Self follow. > > Myself: 4 Sep 1943 (4:20pm), Melbourne, Australia. > Son (David): 29 Oct 1964 (10:01am), Warrnambool, Australia. > > PS: A quiz; > There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago > (which has kept > my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see > this in David's > chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for > something obscure :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:53 AM > Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN > BORN CHILDREN > > > Dear Wendy, > > //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts > (and resulting actions) arise? " // > > Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > > ________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Wendy, Strong Rahu in 6thH seems to be good in competition but I've learned that it brings terrible 'enemies', in this case Tr Ma-Ra transit Ju-bingo! I wish you and your family all the best. Love, Anna " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote: Sorry, wrong chart. 1965 has Moon 8th Lord in 1st. -Job offer abroad? " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote: Dear Wendy, Unearned wealth. Ra seems to be well placed in Ge Regards, Anna Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Wendy, //There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago (which has kept my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see this in David's chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for something obscure :-)// Was this a religious event? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna and All, > > The mothers chart (dasas/transits) will indicate the > circumstances relating > to (a particular) delivery i.e., difficult delivery > (complications), > surgical intervention (caesarean section) etc.. > > My own (2nd child) is a prime example of this - a most > difficult delivery in > which both mother and child were in mortal danger throughout > the long > ordeal. My Son was born with 8th lord Moon in lagna. For me, > Moon, > dispositor of JU/RA, was transiting my 12th house > (Sagittarius). > > It would be good (for study) if we could locate some > (mother/child) charts > of caesarean birth. > > For those interested the charts of my Son/Self follow. > > Myself: 4 Sep 1943 (4:20pm), Melbourne, Australia. > Son (David): 29 Oct 1964 (10:01am), Warrnambool, Australia. > > PS: A quiz; > There was a truly wonderful/unexpected event a few days ago > (which has kept > my attention pretty much away from the list). Can anyone see > this in David's > chart? It is perfectly obvious...not need to look for > something obscure :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:53 AM > Re: Re: Re: ASTROLOGY OF CESERIAN > BORN CHILDREN > > > Dear Wendy, > > //We need to ponder the question; " from where do our thoughts > (and resulting actions) arise? " // > > Very true! We are always guided by the unknown. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > > ________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Dear Krishnamurthy & satish, Thanks for your valued information, as you told that it is the distiny, only few persons can enjoy the grace of GOD my be due to POORVA PUNYA and other good deeds. Even the ceserian births at good time are possible due to this poorva punya only. Any how i do agree that BIRTH AND DEATH ARE PREDETERMINED BY GOD. NOTHING IS IN OUR HAND, EVEN good Atmas will take death on GOOD DATES AND GOOD LAGNAS As we have seen this in MAHABHARATA Example. : DEATH OF BHEESHMA PITAMAHA " who has decided to take NIRVANA on EKADASHI at perticular Lagna. Like this we have have many instances and examples from our OLD EPICS. with regards, NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: dear friends, Thanks for joining the discussion of ceserian births, I have seen some of the cases where the deliveries of babies has been done with pre-determined time successfully, As you told that this may be the gods grace or the babies are lucky enough to take birth in pre determined lagnas. but pl. tell me in such cases where the birth has taken place as per plan and gods grace present, then can we consider that these babies are lucky enough, and the horoscope of these babies will be in the same line with the natural born babies horoscopes. or other wise we did not have to take considerations of such cases, as per PARASHARA these types of birth are not been discussed. kindly give some focus on the successful cases and share y our experience. with regards Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Satish, This is what I too believe in. Your words are almost like coming from my mind! Thanks for your post. Just to add, what I believe in is that a birth in this world is pre-determined by natural forces, if you want to call it God, go ahead. Prarabdha karma that an atma has to undergo in this world is pre-determined and the life-span given to that atma is pre-determined. No one, not even God can change it! Again, I am not being fatalistic here. The baggage you carry (or vasanas) is only pre-determined and not one's actions. Though these vasanas influence the actions to a great extent, the will and determination to do good/bad can overcome such influences. I doubt if one could engineer the birth time against the Grand Plan of the natural forces. Regards, Krishna --- satish kingi <astrokinghyd wrote: > Dear Mr. Narasing Raj, > I not only appreciate your curiosity of " fixing time of birth > in a preplanned manner " so as to have a " good " lagna for > " good " results, but I also admit that upto a certain stage of > experience astrologers TEND TO GET TEMPTED to think this way.. > even I used to, once upon a time. > BUT dear friend, after lot of experiences, I have come to a > conclusion that MAN CANNOT RULE ANY ONE'S DESTINY. In my new > days of astrology, I had done this futile exercise, but I saw > that GOD does only what He wants.. some time the surgeon gets > stuck somewhere.. some times the Head nurse is unable to > arrange the operation theatre..some time the oxygen cylinder > nozzle does not work...some times the " to-be-mother " suddenly > develops Blood pressure (which she never had in her life.. > not even during the pregnancy)and the surgery is held back for > some time... and all sorts of other ancilliary problems! In > one so well organized (?) case, things would have happened the > way they were " planned " but for the most unexpected > development that the person who was sent to Blood bank to > fetch blood was bit by a stray dog and he was late by almost > one hour and the lagna changed! ... No, my friend, don't try > to find any thing geniune in these reasons.. they are just > ACTS OF GOD TO COUNTER OUR WILL (ILL-WILL?) TO SUPERSEDE HIM. > > Last but not the least, I am yet to see a horoscope which is > " good " in every respect. I feel, a horoscope is just like a > water in a plastic packet - you try to press one corner and > the other corner bulges! IS IT NOT SUFFICIENT THAT WE > ONLY TRY TO READ (AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE) WHAT GOD WRITES AND > NOT WRITE OURSELVES? > With Warm Regards > Satish Kingi > > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007 Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote : > >Dear Narasing Raj, > > > >Whether it is natural delivery or a caesarean birth, what > >matters is - when does the baby lives on its own exposed to > the > >forces of the universe independently. Hence, I guess there > >should be no doubts on caesarean births as only the mode in > >which the baby comes out is different. > > > >Regards, > >Krishna > > > >--- NARSING RAJ BANDARI <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > dear friends , > > > > > > i would like to draw the all of your attention, pl. > share > > > your experiences about > > > fixing of ceserian births. > > > > > > let us have a complete healthy discussions as per > > > astrological point. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sanjay rathod <sanaloe64 wrote: > > > dear, > > > > > > time of birth and death if we start deciding then entire > new > > > panchangan required. > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " narsingrajb " > > > <narsingrajb wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotish ratnas, > > > > > > > > Pl. confirm how far the astrology will give results on > the > > > children > > > > born with ceserian (operation) , since we can fix the > best > > > time of > > > > birth and can have delivery of baby as per our desired > LAGNA > > > ON > > > ANY > > > > PARTICULAR GOOD TIME . > > > > > > > > Will the Astrology Birth chart will give all the results > as > > > per > > > the > > > > Jyotish Shastra ?? > > > > > > > > pl. clarify and give your expert experience on any > persons > > > till > > > date > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > B. 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