Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Hello Wendy In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu becomes benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - suppose in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with ketu (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both become yogagraha. Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few do not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of rahu. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ jyotishvidya Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:06:47 +0900 jyotish-vidya Jyotish-Vidya Dear Group, I'm well aware that my repeated reminder of the purpose set out for this group must seem excessive and (even) unnecessary to many. However, as there are so many other groups catering to all possible interpretations of Parashara text and even embracing new (recently developed) systems, the need for one group to remain focused on the system recommended by Parashara as being most suited in this day and age was obvious. There are several groups devoted entirely to a particular predictive technique included in BPHS. *The AshtakaVarga system. *The Jaimini dasa system. ....and here *The Vimsottari dasa system (commonly referred to as the Parashara system). There are also groups that cater for other systems i.e; *The KP system. *The SA method. ....as well as groups that cater to a myriad of techniques. Jyotish-Vidya, however, remains true to its original purpose as specified on the very first JyotishVidya group (founded in 2001). The fundamental aim of this group is to cut through the endless confusion and contradictions that come from mixing different techniques. I'm sure many here are familiar with V.K. Choudhry's 'Systems Approach' which was developed in an effort to cut through all this confusion...the paragraph (below) pasted from the SA group page bears witness to this... **If you are fed up with confusions, inconsistencies and contradictions in Vedic astrology, you are welcome to learn the Systems' Approach to Vedic Astrology.** My opinion is that much of the wisdom of traditional vedic astrology has been compromised/lost in developing this new system and, I feel, it's a great pity Mr. Choudhry was unable to discriminate between the different techniques offered in BPHS... But, without doubt, everything happens as it's destined and his destiny to break with tradition is seen with Rahu occupying 9th (dharma sthana) in his own constellation. As we know, Rahu, without benefic association, is said to be a destroyer of dharma... for more information on Rahu in this context click on following link and scroll down to the link marked 'more pictures of Rahu' http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm [http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm] It's (rightfully) said that Rahu breaks the rules and creates his own rules according to need...what to say of Rahu in 9th without benefic association. No doubt this Rahu has given recognition (publicity etc.) to Mr. Choudhry with Rahu's dispositor (Saturn) aspecting 10th lord Jupiter in 10th. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com [http://JyotishVidya.com] jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Wendy, Very good post! In this light, it would be of interest to study the charts of the following jyotishis who have tried to introduce variations into jyotish or Parashari Jyotish as some call it. Most, not quite to the extent as VK Choudhry but none the less ... KN Rao Richard Houk KS Krishnamurthy Manik Chand Jain (Wandahl's guru, by the way) Sanjay Rath PVR Narasimha Rao and a few others... Would be of great interest to study the influence of Rahu in their charts and thinking! And is it Jupiter that makes one follow the traditional path, whatever that means? Or is there another planet that counters the restlessness of rahu so eager to break the mold? Just wondering ... - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:06 AM Jyotish-Vidya > Dear Group, > > I'm well aware that my repeated reminder of the purpose set out for this > group must seem excessive and (even) unnecessary to many. > However, as there are so many other groups catering to all possible > interpretations of Parashara text and even embracing new (recently > developed) systems, the need for one group to remain focused on the system > recommended by Parashara as being most suited in this day and age was > obvious. > > There are several groups devoted entirely to a particular predictive > technique included in BPHS. > *The AshtakaVarga system. > *The Jaimini dasa system. > > ...and here > > *The Vimsottari dasa system (commonly referred to as the Parashara > system). > > There are also groups that cater for other systems i.e; > *The KP system. > *The SA method. > > ...as well as groups that cater to a myriad of techniques. > > Jyotish-Vidya, however, remains true to its original purpose as specified > on > the very first JyotishVidya group (founded in 2001). The fundamental aim > of > this group is to cut through the endless confusion and contradictions that > come from mixing different techniques. > > I'm sure many here are familiar with V.K. Choudhry's 'Systems Approach' > which was developed in an effort to cut through all this confusion...the > paragraph (below) pasted from the SA group page bears witness to this... > > **If you are fed up with confusions, inconsistencies and contradictions in > Vedic astrology, you are welcome to learn the Systems' Approach to Vedic > Astrology.** > > My opinion is that much of the wisdom of traditional vedic astrology has > been compromised/lost in developing this new system and, I feel, it's a > great pity Mr. Choudhry was unable to discriminate between the different > techniques offered in BPHS... > But, without doubt, everything happens as it's destined and his destiny to > break with tradition is seen with Rahu occupying 9th (dharma sthana) in > his > own constellation. > As we know, Rahu, without benefic association, is said to be a destroyer > of > dharma... for more information on Rahu in this context click on following > link and scroll down to the link marked 'more pictures of Rahu' > http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm > > It's (rightfully) said that Rahu breaks the rules and creates his own > rules > according to need...what to say of Rahu in 9th without benefic > association. > No doubt this Rahu has given recognition (publicity etc.) to Mr. Choudhry > with Rahu's dispositor (Saturn) aspecting 10th lord Jupiter in 10th. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dear Prafulla, In the example you give only Ketu (conjunct Venus) receives the full benefit...modifying his own nature/intent to a great extent. However, the significations of 10th house itself will, no doubt, benefit from Venus' aspect. It's a fine line, for sure, balancing a Node's behaviour in a particular bhava whilst acknowledging the effect of aspects on that bhava. Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book " Predictive Astrology of the Hindus " , states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:22 PM RE: Jyotish-Vidya Hello Wendy In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu becomes benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - suppose in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with ketu (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both become yogagraha. Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few do not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of rahu. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 And it makes perfect sense! How can mathematical points such as the nodes, aspect or SEE as drishtis (the jyotish term for aspects) implies? If they aspect, then lagna must aspect too, and gulika and other upagrahas, all mathematically derived 'points'! Unless one takes into consideration rashi aspects that The Great Muni Parashara, The Patron Saint of Jyotish, and accepted on this wonderful forum described in the navam adhyaya of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra: Atha Rashidrishtikathanadhyaya. This rashi drishti or sambandha holds the key... Finally we all begin to " see " ... - Wendy Vasicek jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:38 AM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Prafulla, In the example you give only Ketu (conjunct Venus) receives the full benefit...modifying his own nature/intent to a great extent. However, the significations of 10th house itself will, no doubt, benefit from Venus' aspect. It's a fine line, for sure, balancing a Node's behaviour in a particular bhava whilst acknowledging the effect of aspects on that bhava. Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book " Predictive Astrology of the Hindus " , states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:22 PM RE: Jyotish-Vidya Hello Wendy In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu becomes benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - suppose in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with ketu (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both become yogagraha. Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few do not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of rahu. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Manas, We need to be cautious not to open Pandora's box by discussing such charts here. These astrologers have wide followings and some could feel offended if our comments were seen to be insensitive in any way. Because of this I will not pass any judgements but merely point out the position of some key planets... Sanjay Rath: 1) 9th lord Mars (in 7th) has both his dispositor (Mercury) and star lord (Moon) occupying dusthanas. 2) Mercury (in 6th) is also star lord of Jupiter. 3) F/M Saturn aspects Jupiter in lagna and SU/VE in 5th...8th lord Venus is combust 6th lord Sun in 5th (inclinations of mind). 4) Dispositor of 9th lord Mars (Mercury) occupies 12th from Mars whilst Mercury's dispositor (Sun) occupies 12th from Mercury and Sun's dispositor (Moon) occupies 8th from Sun. At this point we should reflect on the importance of Mercury (intellect) and Jupiter (knowledge) in the charts of astrologers. Given here (http://jyotishvidya.com/karma.htm) is a basic description of the process of karma and from this we can understand how important Mercury is in the process of 'knowing'. It's the task of the intellect to source the information needed to satisfy the desires of the ego which, once gathered, is stored in the mind as memory. The question begs to be asked; " where does Mercury source this information from? " The answer should be fairly obvious... The navagrahas themselves are the source! If Jupiter, for instance, is weak or afflicted what knowledge is Mercury able to obtain from him? Likewise, if Mercury is weak or afflicted, his ability to gather information (to learn from the grahas) can be restricted. Knowledge may be gained if Jupiter is strong but the ability to express that knowledge, or the ability to discriminate may be lacking. Some may be able to recite every sutra backwards and know the bible (or other religious treatise) from cover to cover yet lack discernment (true understanding). I'll leave this here for now as I've probably already said more than I should :-( PS: I don't have the chart of the late Richard Houk or Manik Chand Jain, and I'd prefer not to examine K.S. Krishnamurti's chart until I have more information on his life to support the chart I have. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " jyotishi " <jyotishi <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:27 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Wendy, Very good post! In this light, it would be of interest to study the charts of the following jyotishis who have tried to introduce variations into jyotish or Parashari Jyotish as some call it. Most, not quite to the extent as VK Choudhry but none the less ... KN Rao Richard Houk KS Krishnamurthy Manik Chand Jain (Wandahl's guru, by the way) Sanjay Rath PVR Narasimha Rao and a few others... Would be of great interest to study the influence of Rahu in their charts and thinking! And is it Jupiter that makes one follow the traditional path, whatever that means? Or is there another planet that counters the restlessness of rahu so eager to break the mold? Just wondering ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, Thanks for your kind sharing. For what it is worth, please allow me to assure you that you are amongst friends in your home where you invited us in and have the power to throw out those, anytime, who do not comply or conform :-) I will try to approach in the next few days someone who I am pretty sure has the data for MC Jain and Richard Houk. I think all of us astrologers should be able to post our views freely, as you have done, even if the chart is not super accurate. It is not about us slicing and dicing the astrologer but exercising our take on astrology, to the best of our understanding. I hope you are in agreement with my mindset and perception of astro-reality as expressed here. Best Regards, MKu - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:38 AM Re: Jyotish-Vidya > Dear Manas, > > We need to be cautious not to open Pandora's box by discussing such charts > here. These astrologers have wide followings and some could feel offended > if > our comments were seen to be insensitive in any way. Because of this I > will > not pass any judgements but merely point out the position of some key > planets... > > Sanjay Rath: > 1) 9th lord Mars (in 7th) has both his dispositor (Mercury) and star lord > (Moon) occupying dusthanas. > > 2) Mercury (in 6th) is also star lord of Jupiter. > > 3) F/M Saturn aspects Jupiter in lagna and SU/VE in 5th...8th lord Venus > is > combust 6th lord Sun in 5th (inclinations of mind). > > 4) Dispositor of 9th lord Mars (Mercury) occupies 12th from Mars whilst > Mercury's dispositor (Sun) occupies 12th from Mercury and Sun's dispositor > (Moon) occupies 8th from Sun. > > At this point we should reflect on the importance of Mercury (intellect) > and > Jupiter (knowledge) in the charts of astrologers. Given here > (http://jyotishvidya.com/karma.htm) is a basic description of the process > of > karma and from this we can understand how important Mercury is in the > process of 'knowing'. > > It's the task of the intellect to source the information needed to satisfy > the desires of the ego which, once gathered, is stored in the mind as > memory. > The question begs to be asked; " where does Mercury source this information > from? " The answer should be fairly obvious... > > The navagrahas themselves are the source! If Jupiter, for instance, is > weak > or afflicted what knowledge is Mercury able to obtain from him? Likewise, > if > Mercury is weak or afflicted, his ability to gather information (to learn > from the grahas) can be restricted. Knowledge may be gained if Jupiter is > strong but the ability to express that knowledge, or the ability to > discriminate may be lacking. > Some may be able to recite every sutra backwards and know the bible (or > other religious treatise) from cover to cover yet lack discernment (true > understanding). > > I'll leave this here for now as I've probably already said more than I > should :-( > > PS: I don't have the chart of the late Richard Houk or Manik Chand Jain, > and > I'd prefer not to examine K.S. Krishnamurti's chart until I have more > information on his life to support the chart I have. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:27 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Wendy, > > Very good post! In this light, it would be of interest to study the charts > of the following jyotishis who have tried to introduce variations into > jyotish or Parashari Jyotish as some call it. Most, not quite to the > extent > as VK Choudhry but none the less ... > > KN Rao > Richard Houk > KS Krishnamurthy > Manik Chand Jain (Wandahl's guru, by the way) > Sanjay Rath > PVR Narasimha Rao > and a few others... > > Would be of great interest to study the influence of Rahu in their charts > and thinking! > > And is it Jupiter that makes one follow the traditional path, whatever > that > means? Or is there another planet that counters the restlessness of rahu > so > eager to break the mold? > > Just wondering ... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, // We need to be cautious not to open Pandora's box by discussing such charts > here. These astrologers have wide followings and some could feel offended > if > our comments were seen to be insensitive in any way. // That is a great observation, a wise and mature one. Which is one of the reasons, why I keep aay from Charts of great personalities and try not to enter discussions on their charts. I remember that I had wrote about putting Life sketch of Shri KrishMurthy, have done some work by searching some books, the only problem now is to go through those many pages of print,locate where the dates are mentioned and what incident is associated with the same. Not able to find exhaustive details at a sigle one place. This may take some time. regards, bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " jyotishi " <jyotishi wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > Thanks for your kind sharing. For what it is worth, please allow me to > assure you that you are amongst friends in your home where you invited us > in and have the power to throw out those, anytime, who do not comply or > conform :-) > > I will try to approach in the next few days someone who I am pretty sure has > the data for MC Jain and Richard Houk. I think all of us astrologers should > be able to post our views freely, as you have done, even if the chart is not > super accurate. It is not about us slicing and dicing the astrologer but > exercising our take on astrology, to the best of our understanding. > > I hope you are in agreement with my mindset and perception of astro-reality > as expressed here. > > Best Regards, > MKu > - > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:38 AM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > > Dear Manas, > > > > We need to be cautious not to open Pandora's box by discussing such charts > > here. These astrologers have wide followings and some could feel offended > > if > > our comments were seen to be insensitive in any way. Because of this I > > will > > not pass any judgements but merely point out the position of some key > > planets... > > > > Sanjay Rath: > > 1) 9th lord Mars (in 7th) has both his dispositor (Mercury) and star lord > > (Moon) occupying dusthanas. > > > > 2) Mercury (in 6th) is also star lord of Jupiter. > > > > 3) F/M Saturn aspects Jupiter in lagna and SU/VE in 5th...8th lord Venus > > is > > combust 6th lord Sun in 5th (inclinations of mind). > > > > 4) Dispositor of 9th lord Mars (Mercury) occupies 12th from Mars whilst > > Mercury's dispositor (Sun) occupies 12th from Mercury and Sun's dispositor > > (Moon) occupies 8th from Sun. > > > > At this point we should reflect on the importance of Mercury (intellect) > > and > > Jupiter (knowledge) in the charts of astrologers. Given here > > (http://jyotishvidya.com/karma.htm) is a basic description of the process > > of > > karma and from this we can understand how important Mercury is in the > > process of 'knowing'. > > > > It's the task of the intellect to source the information needed to satisfy > > the desires of the ego which, once gathered, is stored in the mind as > > memory. > > The question begs to be asked; " where does Mercury source this information > > from? " The answer should be fairly obvious... > > > > The navagrahas themselves are the source! If Jupiter, for instance, is > > weak > > or afflicted what knowledge is Mercury able to obtain from him? Likewise, > > if > > Mercury is weak or afflicted, his ability to gather information (to learn > > from the grahas) can be restricted. Knowledge may be gained if Jupiter is > > strong but the ability to express that knowledge, or the ability to > > discriminate may be lacking. > > Some may be able to recite every sutra backwards and know the bible (or > > other religious treatise) from cover to cover yet lack discernment (true > > understanding). > > > > I'll leave this here for now as I've probably already said more than I > > should :-( > > > > PS: I don't have the chart of the late Richard Houk or Manik Chand Jain, > > and > > I'd prefer not to examine K.S. Krishnamurti's chart until I have more > > information on his life to support the chart I have. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > jyotish-vidya > > ___ > > > > > > - > > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > > <jyotish-vidya > > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:27 PM > > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > > > > Wendy, > > > > Very good post! In this light, it would be of interest to study the charts > > of the following jyotishis who have tried to introduce variations into > > jyotish or Parashari Jyotish as some call it. Most, not quite to the > > extent > > as VK Choudhry but none the less ... > > > > KN Rao > > Richard Houk > > KS Krishnamurthy > > Manik Chand Jain (Wandahl's guru, by the way) > > Sanjay Rath > > PVR Narasimha Rao > > and a few others... > > > > Would be of great interest to study the influence of Rahu in their charts > > and thinking! > > > > And is it Jupiter that makes one follow the traditional path, whatever > > that > > means? Or is there another planet that counters the restlessness of rahu > > so > > eager to break the mold? > > > > Just wondering ... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - how will we read rahu then? Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd with ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. It was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). Here rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see from the placement. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > jyotishvidya > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:38:40 +0900 > jyotish-vidya > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > Dear Prafulla, > > In the example you give only Ketu (conjunct Venus) receives the full > benefit...modifying his own nature/intent to a great extent. > However, the significations of 10th house itself will, no doubt, benefit > from Venus' aspect. It's a fine line, for sure, balancing a Node's > behaviour > in a particular bhava whilst acknowledging the effect of aspects on that > bhava. > > Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book " Predictive Astrology of the > Hindus " , > states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. > Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that > house > is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to > traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are > aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under > the > realm of aspects as do the other planets. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:22 PM > RE: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Hello Wendy > > In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu > becomes > benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will > both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - > suppose > in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with > ketu > (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both > become yogagraha. > > Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few > do > not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of > rahu. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ __________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious reasons! Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by! MKu - Prafulla Gang jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:19 AM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - how will we read rahu then? Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd with ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. It was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). Here rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see from the placement. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > jyotishvidya > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:38:40 +0900 > jyotish-vidya > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > Dear Prafulla, > > In the example you give only Ketu (conjunct Venus) receives the full > benefit...modifying his own nature/intent to a great extent. > However, the significations of 10th house itself will, no doubt, benefit > from Venus' aspect. It's a fine line, for sure, balancing a Node's > behaviour > in a particular bhava whilst acknowledging the effect of aspects on that > bhava. > > Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book " Predictive Astrology of the > Hindus " , > states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. > Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that > house > is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to > traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are > aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under > the > realm of aspects as do the other planets. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:22 PM > RE: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Hello Wendy > > In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu > becomes > benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will > both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - > suppose > in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with > ketu > (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both > become yogagraha. > > Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few > do > not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of > rahu. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ ________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, ///Not able to find exhaustive details at a sigle one place. This may take some time./// I also had no luck tracking down information. Not to worry Bhaskar, if you come up with something that would be good but please don't stress over it if you can't... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:07 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Mrs. Wendy, // We need to be cautious not to open Pandora's box by discussing such charts > here. These astrologers have wide followings and some could feel offended > if > our comments were seen to be insensitive in any way. // That is a great observation, a wise and mature one. Which is one of the reasons, why I keep aay from Charts of great personalities and try not to enter discussions on their charts. I remember that I had wrote about putting Life sketch of Shri KrishMurthy, have done some work by searching some books, the only problem now is to go through those many pages of print,locate where the dates are mentioned and what incident is associated with the same. Not able to find exhaustive details at a sigle one place. This may take some time. regards, bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Prafulla, You would need to look at all the conditions influencing Rahu; position and strength of dispositor and star lord, Rahu's position in relation to other grahas (temporary friendship etc). Basic promise of Saturn etc.. Is it possible to have a look at your chart? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:19 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - how will we read rahu then? Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd with ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. It was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). Here rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see from the placement. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Manas, ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished./// Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with other members at any time. This has always been the case. However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what they want. What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by!/// Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they are put back on moderation until trust is regained. I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the first place.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " jyotishi " <jyotishi <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious reasons! Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by! MKu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Mrs.Wendy, Agreed in titto. This is at least one rare List about which I was speaking with another member yesterday, that here at least Jyotish discussions are taking place, and there is no space for unnecessary reading requests where the time of the astrologers is lost to thankless People asking for readings. I agree and appreciate the grit of the owner in not allowing extra baggage which is hard to shoulder. Whatever is discussed here, is juice to the thisty soul, and a place where the astrologer can, rest, relax, discuss and learn through sharing , minus the external sounds of disturbacnce . I am for the ethics of this Forum and whole heartedly support this stance, which makes it a exquisite Forum, and not like the others run of the mill type of kinds. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Manas, > > ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that > horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets > reestablished./// > > Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with > other members at any time. This has always been the case. > However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not > interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even > have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what > they want. > What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous > groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my > mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. > > ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be > some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be > bombarded by!/// > > Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even > then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they > are put back on moderation until trust is regained. > I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the > first place.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes > of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. > Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly > celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious > reasons! > > Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? > > You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some > rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded > by! > > MKu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, Of course, rahu's environment have to be looked in (sign / constellation dispositor etc). i was just commenting on the premise - if both can become benefic or only one of them can qualify to be benefic (read with aspects / conjunction with respect to nodes). In my view - rahu did well for me for its aspect from mars. My chart data - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; Jodhpur (India) 73E04 / 26N17 regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > jyotishvidya > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:03:15 +0900 > jyotish-vidya > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > Dear Prafulla, > > You would need to look at all the conditions influencing Rahu; position > and > strength of dispositor and star lord, Rahu's position in relation to > other > grahas (temporary friendship etc). Basic promise of Saturn etc.. > Is it possible to have a look at your chart? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:19 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Dear Wendy, > > Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - > how > will we read rahu then? > > Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd > with > ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. > It > was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). > Here > rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. > > I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see > from > the placement. > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ __________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, I am in full support for your opinion. Just recently I took help from Bhaskar on my chart and we exchanged a couple of mails on my chart. As you point out, this is OK and I am aware how busy Bhaskar is and I know that I should retract after discussing a specific issue and not prolong the discussion on to more areas (which becomes asking for a reading from the back door). Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Manas, ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished./// Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with other members at any time. This has always been the case. However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what they want. What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by!/// Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they are put back on moderation until trust is regained. I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the first place.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " jyotishi " <jyotishi <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious reasons! Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by! MKu Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, I have a question on the influence of Rahu. Please give your opinion. Rahu when sits in any sign, influences that sign. There is no doubt in that. Logically, Rahu should influence the tatwa of that sign. Since, the tatwa of that sign is influenced by Rahu, can we assume that all houses belonging to the same tatwa are also influenced by Rahu to some extent? This means Rahu could influence 5/9 houses from where he sits. Do you see any worth in this logic? Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Prafulla, You would need to look at all the conditions influencing Rahu; position and strength of dispositor and star lord, Rahu's position in relation to other grahas (temporary friendship etc). Basic promise of Saturn etc.. Is it possible to have a look at your chart? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:19 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - how will we read rahu then? Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd with ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. It was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). Here rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see from the placement. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Krishnaji, It was a honour to me, for you to allow me to have a look at Your chart. Kind regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > I am in full support for your opinion. Just recently I took help from Bhaskar on my chart and we exchanged a couple of mails on my chart. As you point out, this is OK and I am aware how busy Bhaskar is and I know that I should retract after discussing a specific issue and not prolong the discussion on to more areas (which becomes asking for a reading from the back door). > > Regards, > Krishna > > Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Manas, > > ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that > horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets > reestablished./// > > Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with > other members at any time. This has always been the case. > However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not > interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even > have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what > they want. > What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous > groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my > mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. > > ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be > some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be > bombarded by!/// > > Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even > then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they > are put back on moderation until trust is regained. > I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the > first place.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > - > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes > of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. > Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly > celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious > reasons! > > Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? > > You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some > rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded > by! > > MKu > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, Your comments regarding reading-shoppers are unfortunately very true, troublesome and very similar to the experience of other astrologers. - Wendy Vasicek jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:30 AM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Manas, ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished./// Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with other members at any time. This has always been the case. However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what they want. What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by!/// Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they are put back on moderation until trust is regained. I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the first place.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " jyotishi " <jyotishi <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious reasons! Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded by! MKu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 For what it is worth, I second Mr. Bhaskar's viewpoint in this matter. - Bhaskar jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:38 AM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Mrs.Wendy, Agreed in titto. This is at least one rare List about which I was speaking with another member yesterday, that here at least Jyotish discussions are taking place, and there is no space for unnecessary reading requests where the time of the astrologers is lost to thankless People asking for readings. I agree and appreciate the grit of the owner in not allowing extra baggage which is hard to shoulder. Whatever is discussed here, is juice to the thisty soul, and a place where the astrologer can, rest, relax, discuss and learn through sharing , minus the external sounds of disturbacnce . I am for the ethics of this Forum and whole heartedly support this stance, which makes it a exquisite Forum, and not like the others run of the mill type of kinds. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Manas, > > ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that > horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets > reestablished./// > > Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with > other members at any time. This has always been the case. > However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not > interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even > have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what > they want. > What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous > groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my > mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. > > ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be > some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be > bombarded by!/// > > Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even > then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they > are put back on moderation until trust is regained. > I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the > first place.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes > of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. > Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly > celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious > reasons! > > Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? > > You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some > rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded > by! > > MKu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji, I don't know what to say. You are saying this because of your big heart. I feel honoured. Regards, Krishna Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Krishnaji, It was a honour to me, for you to allow me to have a look at Your chart. Kind regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > I am in full support for your opinion. Just recently I took help from Bhaskar on my chart and we exchanged a couple of mails on my chart. As you point out, this is OK and I am aware how busy Bhaskar is and I know that I should retract after discussing a specific issue and not prolong the discussion on to more areas (which becomes asking for a reading from the back door). > > Regards, > Krishna > > Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Manas, > > ///I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that > horoscopes of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets > reestablished./// > > Bonafide members (not shoppers) are welcome to discuss their charts with > other members at any time. This has always been the case. > However, what seems to be happening more and more is that outsiders, not > interested in learning, will come in asking for remedies etc., and not even > have the manners to say 'thank you' or give any feedback after they get what > they want. > What's even worse, I see these same people asking for help on numerous > groups time and time again. I do not encourage such behaviour which, to my > mind, is disrespectful towards the spirit of this (discussion) group. > > ///You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be > some rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be > bombarded by!/// > > Moderation is always turned on until members have gained my trust...even > then I keep a close eye on things and if someone becomes problematic they > are put back on moderation until trust is regained. > I firmly believe the best way to solve problems is to avoid them in the > first place.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > - > " jyotishi " <jyotishi > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:56 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > I think this list should start welcoming reading requests so that horoscopes > of regulat people can get read, analysed and jyotish gets reestablished. > Celebrity charts, including those of famous astrologers (hardly > celebrities!) often get commented upon with caveats and suchlike for obvious > reasons! > > Wendy, what do you think about that proposal? > > You may want to turn the 'moderation' option on because there could be some > rather strange requests that you would not want your guests to be bombarded > by! > > MKu > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 resending, as earlier post of yesterday did not appear. jyotish Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:45:44 -0800 jyotish-vidya Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, Of course, rahu's environment have to be looked in (sign / constellation dispositor etc). i was just commenting on the premise - if both can become benefic or only one of them can qualify to be benefic (read with aspects / conjunction with respect to nodes). In my view - rahu did well for me for its aspect from mars. My chart data - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; Jodhpur (India) 73E04 / 26N17 regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > jyotishvidya > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:03:15 +0900 > jyotish-vidya > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > Dear Prafulla, > > You would need to look at all the conditions influencing Rahu; position > and > strength of dispositor and star lord, Rahu's position in relation to > other > grahas (temporary friendship etc). Basic promise of Saturn etc.. > Is it possible to have a look at your chart? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:19 PM > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Dear Wendy, > > Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - > how > will we read rahu then? > > Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd > with > ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. > It > was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). > Here > rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. > > I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see > from > the placement. > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ __________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! __________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Krishna, Off the top of my head the answer is No... However I will give it some consideration (hopefully) later today. I have some appointments to keep shortly which will, unfortunately, pretty much take up the rest of the day... Will talk soon! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:31 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, I have a question on the influence of Rahu. Please give your opinion. Rahu when sits in any sign, influences that sign. There is no doubt in that. Logically, Rahu should influence the tatwa of that sign. Since, the tatwa of that sign is influenced by Rahu, can we assume that all houses belonging to the same tatwa are also influenced by Rahu to some extent? This means Rahu could influence 5/9 houses from where he sits. Do you see any worth in this logic? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Prafulla, Many thanks for sending your details. ///In my view - rahu did well for me for its aspect from mars./// It's a fine point, isn't it :-) No doubt, the significations of any house will flourish when aspected by its lord. Also the exaltation of 9th karaka (Jupiter) speaks well for the dasa of any planet occupying 9th...provided it's not heavily afflicted of course. Rahu, as I'm sure you know, compels us towards the significations of the house he occupies, and, no doubt, the significations of Rahu himself are enhanced by the auspicious energy of this blessed house Rahu's star lord occupying sign of exaltation whilst dispositor (Jupiter) also gets exalted are tremendous assets for Rahu, and... 9th lord aspecting his own house whilst karaka (Jupiter) is in exaltation are great assets for the house itself. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Monday, January 14, 2008 12:29 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya resending, as earlier post of yesterday did not appear. jyotish Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:45:44 -0800 jyotish-vidya Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, Of course, rahu's environment have to be looked in (sign / constellation dispositor etc). i was just commenting on the premise - if both can become benefic or only one of them can qualify to be benefic (read with aspects / conjunction with respect to nodes). In my view - rahu did well for me for its aspect from mars. My chart data - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; Jodhpur (India) 73E04 / 26N17 regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, I will wait for your response on this. Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Krishna, Off the top of my head the answer is No... However I will give it some consideration (hopefully) later today. I have some appointments to keep shortly which will, unfortunately, pretty much take up the rest of the day... Will talk soon! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:31 PM Re: Jyotish-Vidya Dear Wendy, I have a question on the influence of Rahu. Please give your opinion. Rahu when sits in any sign, influences that sign. There is no doubt in that. Logically, Rahu should influence the tatwa of that sign. Since, the tatwa of that sign is influenced by Rahu, can we assume that all houses belonging to the same tatwa are also influenced by Rahu to some extent? This means Rahu could influence 5/9 houses from where he sits. Do you see any worth in this logic? Regards, Krishna Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Mr Prafulla If I am permitted to intervene becaz the question is posed to Mrs Wendy I would like to state that the Rahu in ur chart is posited in 9th house in Bharani star whose lord Sukra is exalted and the dispositor Kuja ia the yogakaraka. If I have understood Mrs Wendy's statement this explains why ur Rahu dasa was beneficial to you. regards savithri Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: Dear Wendy, Yes - venus will have favourable aspect on 10th. But for dasa results - how will we read rahu then? Only for the sake of example chart - in my chart yoga graha mars in 3rd with ketu and rahu in 9th. Rahu's dasa was excellent for career / education. It was full of extraordinary positive events (with very few odd events). Here rahu is aspected by yoga graha mars; but actually ketu is conj mars. I observed few taking either rahu/ketu positive (not both) But they see from the placement. regards / Prafulla Gang No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > jyotishvidya > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:38:40 +0900 > jyotish-vidya > Re: Jyotish-Vidya > > Dear Prafulla, > > In the example you give only Ketu (conjunct Venus) receives the full > benefit...modifying his own nature/intent to a great extent. > However, the significations of 10th house itself will, no doubt, benefit > from Venus' aspect. It's a fine line, for sure, balancing a Node's > behaviour > in a particular bhava whilst acknowledging the effect of aspects on that > bhava. > > Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book " Predictive Astrology of the > Hindus " , > states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. > Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that > house > is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to > traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are > aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under > the > realm of aspects as do the other planets. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:22 PM > RE: Jyotish-Vidya > > > Hello Wendy > > In the URL referred in your message, you suggested that Rahu / Ketu > becomes > benefic only for the conjunction effects (not the aspects); then how will > both become benefic if one is related with yoga graha. For example - > suppose > in kumbha lagna - where venus is yoga graha and is placed in 4th with > ketu > (and rahu in 10th house). So - will only ketu becomes yoga graha or both > become yogagraha. > > Yes - I have seen many traditionalists not taking aspects of nodes; few > do > not take aspect of ketu (as it is headless), but take 5/7/9 aspects of > rahu. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ ________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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