Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Dear Wendy and all, can any one give the birth details of Marilyn Monroe? regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Dear Arun, Both Moon's nakshatra lord (Mars) and nakshatra lord of Moon's dispositor (Saturn) are inimically placed in 8th. F/M Saturn occupies 4th (mother) whilst lagnesh Moon occupies 7th (mother's mother). Her biography states that both her mother and grandmother suffered from mental illness, probably manic depression. Marilyn herself, of course, also suffered severe depressive illness. Her biography further states that prior to the age of seven she was cared for by a couple whom her mother paid to look after her. Sometime (from the age of seven) her mother was hospitalised with a breakdown. Marilyn was sent to an orphanage and subsequently a series of foster homes. The dasa of Rahu, placed in 12th house of confinement, was operating at the time. Due to time constraint (still a bother at this stage), I will just make one other quick comment for now, if I may. Although F/M Saturn is detrimental to the significations of 4th i.e., happiness & contentment, mother, nurturing, confidence & belief and so forth, certainly the exaltation of 7th lord (and mutual aspect between SA/VE) accounts for her marriage to two extraordinary/ famous men...Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller. Her affairs with other famous men are also well known. But, as I've spoken of several times, a house who's lord is retrograde suffers reversal and her marriages ended in failure. I'd like to elaborate more on this but unfortunately I am pushed for time at the moment... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " arun " <savitarcyber <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:25 AM Re: Marilyn Monroe Dear Wendy and all, Please comment on the following analysis on Marilyn Monroe's Chart. Norma Jean / Marilyn Monroe Ascendent: (Cancer) In Ashelsa, the Nakshatra of the 3rd and 12th Lord. Ascednant is aspected by Lagna Lord Moon 4th shadbala. Lagna Lord Moon is placed in Dhanishta a Martian Nakshatra. The sign dispositor of moon, is Saturn is highly inauspicious (7th and 8th Lord). Saturn is only 6th in shadbala and cuspally positioned. Moon in boxed in between ketu and Jupiter (6th and 9th Lord). Jupiter is considered a functional benefic for cancer ascendant. The lagna lord is afflicted as it is disposited by the malefic saturn. The aspect of the Lagna Lord on the Lagna is strengthening. Sun is conjunct the inauspicious vargottama 3rd and 12th Lord Mercury. Sun is also aspected by Mars and partially by Saturn (the cuspal position of Saturn taken into consideration). Sun is also afflicted. Lagna, Moon (both being the same) and Sun are all afflicted. 4th house (libra): Though there are no occupants, the cuspally positioned Saturn is Retrograde and therefore exerts considerable influence on the 4th house. Saturn is 5th in shadbala. Venus, the 4th Lord aspects the 4th house and therefore stengthens it. Venus's position in the 10th house generates Amala Yoga. The 4th house is considerably strengthened. Though the natural significator of the mind Moon is afflicted as explained earlier, it does not allow us to conclude that the mind was afflicted enough, to commit sucide. Saturn is the deciever, and it has considerable influence on the moon and the 4th house which could, in part, explain the repeated attempts (4 times) to commit sucide. Moon and Jupiter are seperated by less than 10 degrees and hence the benefic influences on the moon have to be taken into account. But the stain of the 6th house rulership for jupiter will manifest under adverse transit conditions. 4th from the moon: (Aries) Occupied by Raja Yoga (5th and 10th Lord) planet Venus. 4th Lord Mars cuspally positioned in the 2nd and at a distance of approx 24 degress from 3rd and 12th Lord Jupiter. There are no aspects. Again the afflictions are minimal and the presence of the benefic venus is an overriding factor. 5th house (scorpio): 5th house has a cuspally positioned Saturn influencing it and it is aspected by 3rd and 12th lord Mercury and 2nd Lord Saturn. Sun is first in Shadbala and Mercury is last. The 5th Lord Mars, who is 2nd in shadbala is placed cuspally in the 8th. and weakly conjunct Jupiter. Now, the link between the 5th and the 8th shows a tendency towards addiction, the nature and seriousness of which are determined by the planets and house positions. In this case, Scorpio, Mars and Saturn are involved, indicating the seriousness of the addiction. (Our analysis of Mel Gibson's Chart too had shown a 5th - 8th connection). There is a near interchange between Mars and Saturn. Venusian energies have been given a martian colouring as a result of its placement in aries, and whenever Mars and Venus are related it propels the native towards sensual delights. The natural significator of intelligence and creativity (5th house significations), Jupiter also occupies the 8th, further pushing the native into addictive habits. 5th from the moon (Taurus): the 5th house from the moon is populated by the 6th(and 9th)Lord Mercury and 8th Lord Sun in close conjunction (less than 4 deg) in a venusian sign. Ths combine is aspected by Saturn and Mars. No doubt that there are deep afflictions here, further reinforcing our argument. 9th house analysis (Pisces): There are no occupants and no aspects. The 9th Lord Jupiter is placed in the 8th house (12th from 9th) which shows a lack of good fortune and luck. Jupiter and the Raja Yoga planet Mars(5th and 10th Lord) is placed cuspally conjuncts weakly (24 degrees) Jupiter. But there is a deeper connection between Jupiter and Mars through the exchange of nakshatras (Jupiter is in Dhanishta ruled by Mars, and Mars is placed in Purvabhadra ruled by Jupiter). So the 9th and 10th Lord's conjunction providing the key to the success of the native. But it is the 8th house, the worst dusthana, and whatever was given was soon destroyed, as the native became increasingly erratic and unperdicatable and at the time of her death, Fox Studios was bent on cancelling her contract. the 12th house and the 8th house are particularly important in this case. Rahu dasa and Jupiter dasa cover the entire life-span of the native and they are placed in the 12th and 8th house respectively. Norma Jean (Marilyn Monroe) was born during Rahu Dasa Rahu antar (Raman ayanamsa) and placed in foster care where she stayed still she was seven years. Norma Jean mother was institutionalised and her guardianship was transferred to her mother's best friend (Grace McKee (after marriage Goddard)). Grace's marriage in 1935 which coincided with Rahu dasa Jupiter antar (12th and 8th) resulted in Norma Jean being transferred to orphanages until she was 16 years. In 1942 Grace was to move to the east coast and to avoid Norma Jean being transferred around orphanages and foster care approached their neighbour about the possibility of marriage with their son. On June 19 1942 Norma Jean married James Dougherty, Rahu Dasa, ketu antar. the 12th house characteristics of confinement and asylums are evident here. Norma was born in a charity ward and the outset itself was put into foster care. This was during the Rahu Dasa Rahu antar and continued so until the antar of jupiter came about when the conditions further deteriorated and was put into orphanages. Jupiter's presence in the 8th seems to have aggravated the native's situation. Rahu takes on the characteristics of Saturn the 7th Lord and facilitated her marriage during ketu antar. Planets position in the seventh from the dasa lord support marriage, during their antardasas. The marriage was unconventional (Rahu) as it was more to avoid further incarceration in foster homes and orphanages, than for love. During the antardasa of Venus (apr 1944) Norma started work in a war time factory. Venus is located in the 10th house. She signed contract with columbia pictures in the fag end of Rahu dasa and started film shooting during Jupiter Dasa Jupiter antar. Rahu in the 12th is usually treated with caution as it shows sexual perversions, promiscuousness and criminal inclinations, this along with Asura Yoga (Jupiter's persence in the 8th which produces a tale-bearer, one who spoils others works and intent on securing one's own interests, poor and with forbidden craving, will do mean acts and troubled by effects of own actions), 9th and 10th lord's position in the 8th led to Marilyn being rumoured to have had affairs with numerous leading men. Her greatest film is considered to be " Some Like it Hot " during Jupiter dasa (Jupiter is the 6th Lord in the 8th house producing Harsha Yoga, a positive yoga producing good results) Venus antar (Venus in the 10th in Amala Yoga) which is considered by the American Film Institute as the Funniest American film of all time. Marilyn received her Golden Globe award for best actress during Jupiter Dasa Sun Antar (Sun the natural significator for fame and prestige, positioned in the house of gain). Marilyn was becoming increasing erratic in her professional life which her co-star Jack Lemmon publically criticized. 8th house analysis: (Aquarius): 8th house is occupied by 6th & 9th Lord Jupiter(6th in shadbala) and 5th & 10th Lord Mars (2nd shadbala). There are no aspects. The 8th Lord Saturn is cuspally positioned and 5th in Shadbala. 8th from the Moon: (Leo): Occupied by Maandi / Gulika and aspected by Mars. The 8th Lord Sun is conjunct the 6th Lord Mercury. Malefics influences are in no doubt here and the death was not natural. The fourth house assessment concludes the mind was not afflicted enough to warrant a suicide. What then? Death occurred in the early hours of August 5th 1962. Jupiter Dasa Mars Bhukthi, both of them maraka planets as they occupy the 2nd house from the moon. Death causing transits: At the time of death, Saturn was in Capricorn putting it in a trine from natal 12th Lord Mercury, which is a death causing transit. Jupiter is in Aquarius which is the same house as the sum of the longitudes of Lagna, Sun and Maandi. Again a death causing transit. Jupiter is passing through the Rasi occupied by the Navamsa Lord of the Pramana Gulika (please refer " Advanced principles of Prediction " By Gayatri Devi Vasudev) another death causing transit. Cause or Agency of Death: If the Ruler of the Sign occupied by Gulika is heavily afflicted, as in this case, then the nature of the ruler will decide the death causing agency. In Marilyn's case the sign occupied by Gulika is Leo, and its ruler Sun is afflicted by the 12th Lord and aspected by Mars and Saturn. Affliction is significant enough. Sun stands for Father or Government agencies. Regards Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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