Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Dear MK Viswanat and List, Just briefly, I too have been looking at Castro's chart. I'm curious as to how this R, then stationed, then direct Mars in early Gemini might have affected the recent news you mention below. Also what the eclipse might have to do with it. James Braha puts his birth time as 13:00 in his most recent book. I've not found any other info stating that time, and as you've written all other accounts in circulation give 2:00. Also, the autobiographies give Biran as his birth place 75W55, 20N33. It's intriguing looking at this and the difference given the birth times. If he was born near the reported 2:00, his progressed dasa Moon would be around 1:36 degrees into Sagittarius, 7 houses from Mars stationed and very weak at 0 degrees Gemini, in great enemy's house. At the time of this news of his relinquishing his post as President, Mars was at 2 + degrees Gemini. This placement of progressed dasha Moon would mean that he's in Gandanta Moon at this time - in Ketu's star, Mula. Also, given his natal Jupiter, R, neehabhanga, and in sandhi, this movement of progressed dasa Moon into Sagittarius. What's interesting regarding the times as well is in Braha's version, Braha's using Castro's chart and this time to show a powerful 6H (time gives Scorpio lagna), with Mars in 6H in Aries (lagnesh Mars owning 1st and 6th.) With the Gemini lagna, Scorpio is 6H. In either chart, Moon is in natural 6H Virgo. With 2:00 chart, Moon in own star, Hasta, with 13:00 chart, Moon in Mars star, Chitra. Looking at the nakshatras for which Moon, it's easier to see him with Hasta Moon versus Chitra. Surya is diety and the symbol a closed hand or fist. PL mentions then that it would follow that this signifies determination and clenched resolution. " To keep everybody, within one's grip, the possessive instinct follows from the nature of this star. " " Surya is the prime cause of dominion, kingship, power of immunity. " Although Pluto is not used in Jyotish, it is known in western astrology as a higher octave of Mars energy. Rahu and Pluto are less than 1 degree conjoined in the Gemini 1H. Pluto is also considered as affecting the masses, rules dictatorship, is considered " .out with the old and in with the new. " - was only discovered in 1930, after Castro's birth ;-) MK, thanks for your post. Hopefully more time soon. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ Respected Members Members are aware that the longest serving leader of any nation, the Cuban leader, Fidel Castro, has relinquished his post as President of Cuba, which he had took up in 1965. Prior to that he was Prime Minister since 1959. From the US perspective, the Cuban Ruler Fidel Castro has out-lasted nine US Presidents, such as Dwight D Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, Richard M Nixon, Gerald F Ford, Jimmy E Carter, Ronald W Reagan, George HW Bush, William J Clinton. This is considered a tremendous achievement from the Cuban perspective too. The birth details of Cuban President Fidel Castro is AUG 13, 1926, 02:00 AM EST, +05:00, 075W41', 20N40', Mayari, CUBA) as in circulation. The birth data is shared in the event of anyone does not possess the same. This is also a moment where Astrologers, who would like to assess as to how a person could cling on to a particular post for a long time braving all adversaries the modern era presents. Regards MK Viswanat Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Dear Pat. I had found some information, not much but according to a Westerner Astrologer, Fidel Castro, was born during a Sun Moon Eclipse just like the recent one. Also born with same type of eclipse was Carl Max, Alexander the Great in Feb 29 357. etc. and is probably the action of the eclipse that had makes him to take retirement a day before the eclipse. Patrice Curry <patricecurry wrote: Dear MK Viswanat and List, Just briefly, I too have been looking at Castro's chart. I'm curious as to how this R, then stationed, then direct Mars in early Gemini might have affected the recent news you mention below. Also what the eclipse might have to do with it. James Braha puts his birth time as 13:00 in his most recent book. I've not found any other info stating that time, and as you've written all other accounts in circulation give 2:00. Also, the autobiographies give Biran as his birth place 75W55, 20N33. It's intriguing looking at this and the difference given the birth times. If he was born near the reported 2:00, his progressed dasa Moon would be around 1:36 degrees into Sagittarius, 7 houses from Mars stationed and very weak at 0 degrees Gemini, in great enemy's house. At the time of this news of his relinquishing his post as President, Mars was at 2 + degrees Gemini. This placement of progressed dasha Moon would mean that he's in Gandanta Moon at this time - in Ketu's star, Mula. Also, given his natal Jupiter, R, neehabhanga, and in sandhi, this movement of progressed dasa Moon into Sagittarius. What's interesting regarding the times as well is in Braha's version, Braha's using Castro's chart and this time to show a powerful 6H (time gives Scorpio lagna), with Mars in 6H in Aries (lagnesh Mars owning 1st and 6th.) With the Gemini lagna, Scorpio is 6H. In either chart, Moon is in natural 6H Virgo. With 2:00 chart, Moon in own star, Hasta, with 13:00 chart, Moon in Mars star, Chitra. Looking at the nakshatras for which Moon, it's easier to see him with Hasta Moon versus Chitra. Surya is diety and the symbol a closed hand or fist. PL mentions then that it would follow that this signifies determination and clenched resolution. " To keep everybody, within one's grip, the possessive instinct follows from the nature of this star. " " Surya is the prime cause of dominion, kingship, power of immunity. " Although Pluto is not used in Jyotish, it is known in western astrology as a higher octave of Mars energy. Rahu and Pluto are less than 1 degree conjoined in the Gemini 1H. Pluto is also considered as affecting the masses, rules dictatorship, is considered " .out with the old and in with the new. " - was only discovered in 1930, after Castro's birth ;-) MK, thanks for your post. Hopefully more time soon. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ Respected Members Members are aware that the longest serving leader of any nation, the Cuban leader, Fidel Castro, has relinquished his post as President of Cuba, which he had took up in 1965. Prior to that he was Prime Minister since 1959. From the US perspective, the Cuban Ruler Fidel Castro has out-lasted nine US Presidents, such as Dwight D Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, Richard M Nixon, Gerald F Ford, Jimmy E Carter, Ronald W Reagan, George HW Bush, William J Clinton. This is considered a tremendous achievement from the Cuban perspective too. The birth details of Cuban President Fidel Castro is AUG 13, 1926, 02:00 AM EST, +05:00, 075W41', 20N40', Mayari, CUBA) as in circulation. The birth data is shared in the event of anyone does not possess the same. This is also a moment where Astrologers, who would like to assess as to how a person could cling on to a particular post for a long time braving all adversaries the modern era presents. Regards MK Viswanat Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hello, have not seen any email traffic in two days, is something wrong with the site? or i have been expelled from the group? ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: Dear Pat. I had found some information, not much but according to a Westerner Astrologer, Fidel Castro, was born during a Sun Moon Eclipse just like the recent one. Also born with same type of eclipse was Carl Max, Alexander the Great in Feb 29 357. etc. and is probably the action of the eclipse that had makes him to take retirement a day before the eclipse. Patrice Curry <patricecurry wrote: Dear MK Viswanat and List, Just briefly, I too have been looking at Castro's chart. I'm curious as to how this R, then stationed, then direct Mars in early Gemini might have affected the recent news you mention below. Also what the eclipse might have to do with it. James Braha puts his birth time as 13:00 in his most recent book. I've not found any other info stating that time, and as you've written all other accounts in circulation give 2:00. Also, the autobiographies give Biran as his birth place 75W55, 20N33. It's intriguing looking at this and the difference given the birth times. If he was born near the reported 2:00, his progressed dasa Moon would be around 1:36 degrees into Sagittarius, 7 houses from Mars stationed and very weak at 0 degrees Gemini, in great enemy's house. At the time of this news of his relinquishing his post as President, Mars was at 2 + degrees Gemini. This placement of progressed dasha Moon would mean that he's in Gandanta Moon at this time - in Ketu's star, Mula. Also, given his natal Jupiter, R, neehabhanga, and in sandhi, this movement of progressed dasa Moon into Sagittarius. What's interesting regarding the times as well is in Braha's version, Braha's using Castro's chart and this time to show a powerful 6H (time gives Scorpio lagna), with Mars in 6H in Aries (lagnesh Mars owning 1st and 6th.) With the Gemini lagna, Scorpio is 6H. In either chart, Moon is in natural 6H Virgo. With 2:00 chart, Moon in own star, Hasta, with 13:00 chart, Moon in Mars star, Chitra. Looking at the nakshatras for which Moon, it's easier to see him with Hasta Moon versus Chitra. Surya is diety and the symbol a closed hand or fist. PL mentions then that it would follow that this signifies determination and clenched resolution. " To keep everybody, within one's grip, the possessive instinct follows from the nature of this star. " " Surya is the prime cause of dominion, kingship, power of immunity. " Although Pluto is not used in Jyotish, it is known in western astrology as a higher octave of Mars energy. Rahu and Pluto are less than 1 degree conjoined in the Gemini 1H. Pluto is also considered as affecting the masses, rules dictatorship, is considered " .out with the old and in with the new. " - was only discovered in 1930, after Castro's birth ;-) MK, thanks for your post. Hopefully more time soon. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ Respected Members Members are aware that the longest serving leader of any nation, the Cuban leader, Fidel Castro, has relinquished his post as President of Cuba, which he had took up in 1965. Prior to that he was Prime Minister since 1959. From the US perspective, the Cuban Ruler Fidel Castro has out-lasted nine US Presidents, such as Dwight D Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, Richard M Nixon, Gerald F Ford, Jimmy E Carter, Ronald W Reagan, George HW Bush, William J Clinton. This is considered a tremendous achievement from the Cuban perspective too. The birth details of Cuban President Fidel Castro is AUG 13, 1926, 02:00 AM EST, +05:00, 075W41', 20N40', Mayari, CUBA) as in circulation. The birth data is shared in the event of anyone does not possess the same. This is also a moment where Astrologers, who would like to assess as to how a person could cling on to a particular post for a long time braving all adversaries the modern era presents. Regards MK Viswanat Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 On the Internet MAYA, Eligio -- it is like lying next to a calm pond full of promises of bliss and equanimity! Only when you get curious and touch it with your curious jupiter/index finger suddenly the pond comes alive and all waves and vibrations come alive. Then they die down when you remove your index finger. It is all up to you, to make it come alive or just watch it settle down ... RR jyotish-vidya , ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: > > Hello, have not seen any email traffic in two days, is something wrong with the site? or i have been expelled from the group? > > ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: Dear Pat. I had found some information, not much but according to a Westerner Astrologer, Fidel Castro, was born during a Sun Moon Eclipse just like the recent one. Also born with same type of eclipse was Carl Max, Alexander the Great in Feb 29 357. etc. > and is probably the action of the eclipse that had makes him to take retirement a day before the eclipse. > > > > Patrice Curry <patricecurry wrote: > Dear MK Viswanat and List, > > Just briefly, I too have been looking at Castro's chart. I'm curious as to > how this R, then stationed, then direct Mars in early Gemini might have > affected the recent news you mention below. Also what the eclipse might have > to do with it. > > James Braha puts his birth time as 13:00 in his most recent book. I've not > found any other info stating that time, and as you've written all other > accounts in circulation give 2:00. Also, the autobiographies give Biran as > his birth place 75W55, 20N33. > > It's intriguing looking at this and the difference given the birth times. If > he was born near the reported 2:00, his progressed dasa Moon would be around > 1:36 degrees into Sagittarius, 7 houses from Mars stationed and very weak at > 0 degrees Gemini, in great enemy's house. At the time of this news of his > relinquishing his post as President, Mars was at 2 + degrees Gemini. This > placement of progressed dasha Moon would mean that he's in Gandanta Moon at > this time - in Ketu's star, Mula. Also, given his natal Jupiter, R, > neehabhanga, and in sandhi, this movement of progressed dasa Moon into > Sagittarius. > > What's interesting regarding the times as well is in Braha's version, > Braha's using Castro's chart and this time to show a powerful 6H (time gives > Scorpio lagna), with Mars in 6H in Aries (lagnesh Mars owning 1st and 6th.) > With the Gemini lagna, Scorpio is 6H. In either chart, Moon is in natural 6H > Virgo. With 2:00 chart, Moon in own star, Hasta, with 13:00 chart, Moon in > Mars star, Chitra. > > Looking at the nakshatras for which Moon, it's easier to see him with Hasta > Moon versus Chitra. Surya is diety and the symbol a closed hand or fist. PL > mentions then that it would follow that this signifies determination and > clenched resolution. " To keep everybody, within one's grip, the possessive > instinct follows from the nature of this star. " " Surya is the prime cause > of dominion, kingship, power of immunity. " > > Although Pluto is not used in Jyotish, it is known in western astrology as a > higher octave of Mars energy. Rahu and Pluto are less than 1 degree > conjoined in the Gemini 1H. Pluto is also considered as affecting the > masses, rules dictatorship, is considered " .out with the old and in with the > new. " - was only discovered in 1930, after Castro's birth ;-) > > MK, thanks for your post. Hopefully more time soon. > > Kindest wishes, > > Patrice > > _____ > > Respected Members > > Members are aware that the longest serving leader of any nation, the Cuban > leader, Fidel Castro, has relinquished his post as President of Cuba, which > he had took up in 1965. Prior to that he was Prime Minister since 1959. > > From the US perspective, the Cuban Ruler Fidel Castro has out- lasted nine US > Presidents, such as Dwight D Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, > Richard M Nixon, Gerald F Ford, Jimmy E Carter, Ronald W Reagan, George HW > Bush, William J Clinton. > > This is considered a tremendous achievement from the Cuban perspective too. > > The birth details of Cuban President Fidel Castro is AUG 13, 1926, 02:00 AM > EST, +05:00, 075W41', 20N40', Mayari, CUBA) as in circulation. > > The birth data is shared in the event of anyone does not possess the same. > This is also a moment where Astrologers, who would like to assess as to how > a person could cling on to a particular post for a long time braving all > adversaries the modern era presents. > > Regards > MK Viswanat > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Dear Eligio, ///Hello, have not seen any email traffic in two days, is something wrong with the site?/// Often the group settles down to a little 'quiet time' (particularly) over the weekend period. ///or i have been expelled from the group?/// There's not much chance of this happening. The removal of members is a step not taken lightly - usually a last resort after I've received several (private) abusive mails and/or the member has ignored numerous reminders of the basic rules set out for the smooth running of the group. ///ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: Dear Pat. I had found some information, not much but according to a Westerner Astrologer, Fidel Castro, was born during a Sun Moon Eclipse just like the recent one. Also born with same type of eclipse was Carl Max, Alexander the Great in Feb 29 357. etc. and is probably the action of the eclipse that had makes him to take retirement a day before the eclipse./// We don't often get a quick response from Patrice as she's usually quite busy 'off-list' This, I assume, also applies to many other members who contribute (only) when they have some time to spare in their busy lives. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Thank you Wendy Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Eligio, ///Hello, have not seen any email traffic in two days, is something wrong with the site?/// Often the group settles down to a little 'quiet time' (particularly) over the weekend period. ///or i have been expelled from the group?/// There's not much chance of this happening. The removal of members is a step not taken lightly - usually a last resort after I've received several (private) abusive mails and/or the member has ignored numerous reminders of the basic rules set out for the smooth running of the group. ///ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: Dear Pat. I had found some information, not much but according to a Westerner Astrologer, Fidel Castro, was born during a Sun Moon Eclipse just like the recent one. Also born with same type of eclipse was Carl Max, Alexander the Great in Feb 29 357. etc. and is probably the action of the eclipse that had makes him to take retirement a day before the eclipse./// We don't often get a quick response from Patrice as she's usually quite busy 'off-list' This, I assume, also applies to many other members who contribute (only) when they have some time to spare in their busy lives. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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