Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sir, How is the remedies are different from every astrologer,the remedies for the afflications(whether it is curse ,dosha or papa) it must be same for that particular afflictions. This is something confusing again like having different panchang like Vakya and Drik,each has different planetry positions. Regards, S.Venkatesh dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri. Dharmesh: 15 days is too little a time to expect drastic results (I saw from Shri. Rafal's analysis that it was posted on 13th March 2007 and today is just 29th of March!) It is unethical for astrologers to intervene when the client is performing remedies suggested by another astrologer unless a reasonable period of time has lapsed. Each astrologer will suggest different remedies based on their own theoretical perspective and each suggestion will have its own value. Kindly persist with the remedies suggested by Shri. Rafal at least for 1 year before deciding that it is not helping you. Another point about remedies is ......all said and done, if afflictions in a horoscope are too severe, remedies will at best reduce the karmic effects; complete wiping off past karma is not in the hands of the astrologer. Proper performance of remedies with patience and COMPLETE FAITH and persistence over a sustained period is needed. So, at this point of time I would not like to comment on your query at all. I hope you will understand my standpoint in this regard. Blessed be Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI vedic astrology , Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968 wrote: > > Adarneeya Pt. Dakshinamoorthy Ji, > > I have conveyed the native what Rafal Ji has advised below based on analysis of nativ's horoscope. (DOB 25/12/1968, 9:00 PM, NainiTal). He has started doing all the suggested remedies but its not helping much and still he is very much worried. As he is facing domestic querrels and peace is gone. > Can you kindly give your opinion about his career, finance and marital life. > > Profound regards. > > Dharmesh > > > > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme > vedic astrology > Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:38:28 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Respected Learned astrologers!May I draw your kind attention Pl. > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Dharmesh , Namaskar > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Until Sani will be on Karka-Lagna, many mistakes will come so person > should be very careful. > If chart is right from 97 to 00 person was striving hard for success in > career and could also get some stomach disease in that time. > > From 00 bad luck came as Pitr dosha is in ninth bhava, person feel > cheated in career, this gave some blockage to His rise. He get problems > in relationships and start some writing, This however could make Him > famous. Until 2009 this dasa will continue.. > > If really the chart is accurate and Lagna is of Karka, three things will > put the person on right track: > > 1) Start sincerly Rudra Mantra / Worship and Om Ghrini Suryaadityaya mantra. > > 2) Wear Pukhraj on ring finger right hand > > 3) Fast on every thursday from sunrise to sunset. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz,* > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> > > Dharmesh Verma napisa?(a): > > > > Respected Pt.Ji, > > > > The person born on 25/12/1968 at 9:00 P.M. at Nainital is born in > > Poorvabhadrapada 3. Jupiter in conjunction with Ketu is aspected by > > Saturn conjuncted with Rahu. The person remains under anxity and > > financially not very strong. > > Can you please give accurate analysis about his marital life, > > finances, career and over all future. > > Reagrds. > > > > Dharmesh > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > > http://answers. / dir/?link= list & sid= 396546091 > > <http://answers. / dir/?link= list & sid= 396546091> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Respected Pt. Dakshinamoorthy Ji, A valuable writeup which clears the confusion. No one can help in Past Karma bhukti. But ofcourse the next Ketu Mahadasha seems to be helping him to come up. I hope you agree. Thanks & regards. Dharmesh dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer vedic astrology Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:46:21 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Respected Learned astrologers!May I draw your kind attention Pl. Dear Shri. Venkatesh: It is just like having different medicines for the same ailment! Because of the difference in the spiritual standpoints or astrological branch of an astrologer the remedies may differ. For instance, to remove the maladies arising out of malefic saturn, there are the following popular remedies: 1) Propitiation of Lord Venkateshwara of Tirupati. 2) Feeding crows facing West direction. 3) Doing acts of charity to help aged/ handicapped persons. 4) Reciting " Nala Upaakyaanam " from Shrimad Mahaabharatam. 5) Reciting Maha Mrityunjaya sthothram. 6) Reciting mantras of Kaali (Dasa Mahaa Vidya) 7) Chanting Hanumaan Chaalisaa. 8) Performing Sanichara homam with the appropriate beeja mantras (of course it can be vedic, aagamic, or tantrik - you see there is variation even in this). 9) Light " Til " Lamp in navagraha sannidhi. 10) Worship of Lord Ganesha. Each remedy is supported by different puranas and real life testimonies of countless devotees! Now you might have got the point......THERE CAN BE MANY REMEDIES TO ANY AFFLICTION and the astrologer is likely to choose ONE OR MORE of these.....The list though exhaustive is not by any means complete.... .! If the astrologer is a devotee of Lord Venkateshwara and has had miracles happening in his life due to that Lord, he is more likely to suggest a visit to Tirupati or climbing the seven hills as remedy. A devotee of Dasa Mahaa Vidyas having siddhi in that is more likely to suggest the Dasa Mahaa Vidya remedy. An astrologer with a karma yogic perspective will suggest charity and social service; devotee of Hanumaan will suggest Hanumaan chaalisa, etc. In some cases, an astrologer who is completely objective and considers all these remedies as equally valuable, might be impelled by his/ her intuition to suggest one or more of these remedies, and this suggestion might vary for different clients. I explained about the differences arising out of the astrologer's beliefs and intuition... . Now I will explain some real astrological reasons for different remedies more " scientifically " ...... 1) If Saturn is posited in a feminine sign, or depression arising out of Saturn - Moon conjunction is the problem or if the D20 chart shows devotion to Female Deities will be beneficial to the native, and if he/ she is undergoing difficulties due to Saturn, Dasa MahaVidya remedies will be best (It applies equally well to all planets; I have taken the example of Saturn because it is the most dreaded and hence the most 'popular' planet whose remedies are known well to even lay admirers/ followers of astrology). 2) If Saturn is troubling the native due to association with Mars and the native become schizoid or paranoid, then propitiation of Lord Hanumaan will be more apt. 3) If the trouble arising due to Saturn's adverse influence on a chart is more " physical " like manifestation in the form of a chronic ailment/ life-threatening disease, then performance of " Maha Mrityunjaya " japam/ homam will be the remedy. 4) If frequent obstacles and many a miss between the cup and lip syndrome in life (missed chances for no explicable reason), then chanting Sangashtanaashana sthothram will be the remedy. 5) If an inexplicable sense of anxiety is the only trouble and no other trouble is felt, just to calm the native the suggestion of lighting " Til " Lamp in Navagraha sannidhi may be suggested. This remedy is also suggested when the natives experience obstacles to auspicious events in life due to Saturn's influence like delay in marriage, or failure to get a good job, etc. Again this list is not exhaustive.. ...... Another way the remedy is decided upon is depending on the manifestation of the troubles which might differ due to the differences in the " actual " karma though it might be clubbed under a general category like " Brahmanic curse " For instance, curse arising out of willfully insulting a pious person, indulging in meaningless rhetoric with the aim of defaming or cornering a learned person, insulting scriptures by denigrading them or twisting their contents to defame their contents, bad- mouthing/ physically assaulting a pious person, killing a pious person, stealing temple property/ property of pious persons (stealing is a sin in any case; the magnitude of the sin multiplies manifold if the victim is a pious person or a charitable institution) , etc. will all be seen as " BRAHMANA SAAPA " in a horoscope. But, as we see that different acts as mentioned above can give rise to this condition in the horoscope, the manifestation of life conditions due to that saapa also will vary. Based on the manifestation, the remedies will change. This suggestion of appropriate remedies based on the above pointers is the " application " side of astrology that required very fine tuned intelligence and intuition. You would have noted that myriad factors play a role here and hence the remedies will be different based on the astrologer's assessment of the condition and his/ her level of expertise. Unless you work in close association with an astrologer and have followed all their suggestions, you cannot be sure whether a particular remedy has worked for you or not. Just as a physician may recommend different medicines (if one medicine course does not work well, then the physician is more likely to try another medicine that is also recommended for the ailment to see if it works!), the astrologer will also try out different combinations to help the querent. A really capable physician or an astrologer will do their best to help those who approach them; but in both these cases, treatment is only in their hands, the cure is with the GOD. If an astrologer can really nullify karma with simple remedies, then he is not a human but GOD. And one of the first lessons to be learnt in this Divine Subject and the first code of ethics is AN ASTROLOGER SHOULD NOT PLAY GOD. Suggestion of remedies should be based on our perception of the scenario with the aim of helping the querent. There are cases when astrologers tend to suggest " Unnecessary remedies " just as placebo or for commercial reasons which is deplorable. This might also explain as to why views of astrologers differ. An honest astrologer might have said that the present condition is to be endured and time will change; a quack might say " light til lamp in Sanischara sannidhi, wear black dress, and on and on and on " (I am not saying that these are not valid remedies; but only saying that these are simple and common remedies that are sometimes unnecessarily suggested by inexperienced astrologers when they are not needed at all!) The client who gets a good breakthrough after the tough periods is more likely to attribute the good result to the " remedies " completely forgetting what the other honest astrologer had predicted... .It happens more often in this field; and nobody can say who is correct! Then there is another thing called " Vaak Siddhi " about which we have had some interesting posts recently.... .a good astrologer with good vaak siddhi CAN neutralize evil karmas by his/ her blessings after understanding the nuances of the horoscope. Blessing from a pious soul is almost like getting a boon from the Deities. Such persons, may pray for the client themselves and may not even suggest drastic remedies even in cases where other genuine astrologers might feel the need for a remedy. Another point about remedies is that " a remedy is like an umberalla used to protect you from rain (karma); it can prevent you from getting drenched (experiencing severe malefic results); but neither can it stop the rain (karma) nor can it prevent you from getting wet due to splashes (residual karma) " . I can carry an umberalla (minor remedies that minimize malefic effects) or wear a rain coat (intense remedies that can guarantee more protection) or avoid going out at all (suggestions from astrologers about not initiating certain tasks at certain times because period is very bad). Thus you have different perspectives and different solutions to the seemingly same problem! I hope I have answered your point. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > wrote: > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > Dear Sir, > > How is the remedies are different from every astrologer,the remedies for the afflications( whether it is curse ,dosha or papa) it must be same for that particular afflictions. > > This is something confusing again like having different panchang like Vakya and Drik,each has different planetry positions. > > Regards, > S.Venkatesh > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > Dear Shri. Dharmesh: > > 15 days is too little a time to expect drastic results (I saw from > Shri. Rafal's analysis that it was posted on 13th March 2007 and > today is just 29th of March!) It is unethical for astrologers to > intervene when the client is performing remedies suggested by > another astrologer unless a reasonable period of time has lapsed. > Each astrologer will suggest different remedies based on their own > theoretical perspective and each suggestion will have its own > value. Kindly persist with the remedies suggested by Shri. Rafal at > least for 1 year before deciding that it is not helping you. > Another point about remedies is ......all said and done, if > afflictions in a horoscope are too severe, remedies will at best > reduce the karmic effects; complete wiping off past karma is not in > the hands of the astrologer. Proper performance of remedies with > patience and COMPLETE FAITH and persistence over a sustained period > is needed. So, at this point of time I would not like to comment on > your query at all. I hope you will understand my standpoint in this > regard. > > Blessed be > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > vedic astrology, Dharmesh Verma > <dverma1968@ > wrote: > > > > Adarneeya Pt. Dakshinamoorthy Ji, > > > > I have conveyed the native what Rafal Ji has advised below based > on analysis of nativ's horoscope. (DOB 25/12/1968, 9:00 PM, > NainiTal). He has started doing all the suggested remedies but its > not helping much and still he is very much worried. As he is facing > domestic querrels and peace is gone. > > Can you kindly give your opinion about his career, finance and > marital life. > > > > Profound regards. > > > > Dharmesh > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:38:28 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Respected Learned astrologers! May I > draw your kind attention Pl. > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > Dear Dharmesh , Namaskar > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Until Sani will be on Karka-Lagna, many mistakes will come so > person > > should be very careful. > > If chart is right from 97 to 00 person was striving hard for > success in > > career and could also get some stomach disease in that time. > > > > From 00 bad luck came as Pitr dosha is in ninth bhava, person feel > > cheated in career, this gave some blockage to His rise. He get > problems > > in relationships and start some writing, This however could make > Him > > famous. Until 2009 this dasa will continue.. > > > > If really the chart is accurate and Lagna is of Karka, three > things will > > put the person on right track: > > > > 1) Start sincerly Rudra Mantra / Worship and Om Ghrini > Suryaadityaya mantra. > > > > 2) Wear Pukhraj on ring finger right hand > > > > 3) Fast on every thursday from sunrise to sunset. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Regards, > > *Rafal Gendarz,* > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com> > > > > Dharmesh Verma napisa?(a): > > > > > > Respected Pt.Ji, > > > > > > The person born on 25/12/1968 at 9:00 P.M. at Nainital is born > in > > > Poorvabhadrapada 3. Jupiter in conjunction with Ketu is aspected > by > > > Saturn conjuncted with Rahu. The person remains under anxity and > > > financially not very strong. > > > Can you please give accurate analysis about his marital life, > > > finances, career and over all future. > > > Reagrds. > > > > > > Dharmesh > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > users. > > > http://answers. / dir/?link= list & sid= 396546091 > > > <http://answers. / dir/?link= list & sid= 396546091> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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