Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear IM, Your husband seems to have the a renunciate's (sanyasa) chart, with 5 planets in one house, ketu in the 12th house and the 10th house and lord afflicted. In your chart though your heart (4th) and values (9th) cannot be questioned, may be it is your speech(2nd house which is seriously afflicted along with the 2nd lord)which lets you down. Also for you, gain is measured in material terms (11th house with 11th lord saturn(materialistic) in it ), which may not fit in with your husband's. A detailed look will follow regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. regrds viswanath arun <savitarcyber wrote: Dear IM, Your husband seems to have the a renunciate's (sanyasa) chart, with 5 planets in one house, ketu in the 12th house and the 10th house and lord afflicted. In your chart though your heart (4th) and values (9th) cannot be questioned, may be it is your speech(2nd house which is seriously afflicted along with the 2nd lord)which lets you down. Also for you, gain is measured in material terms (11th house with 11th lord saturn(materialistic) in it ), which may not fit in with your husband's. A detailed look will follow regards arun Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Viswanath, I'm sure you won't mind sharing the data for tipu sultan to enable a comparison of the two charts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Astrologer_vishy Nair " <astrologervishy_nair <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:20 PM Re: Re: Help needed with married life problems 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. regrds viswanath arun <savitarcyber wrote: Dear IM, Your husband seems to have the a renunciate's (sanyasa) chart, with 5 planets in one house, ketu in the 12th house and the 10th house and lord afflicted. In your chart though your heart (4th) and values (9th) cannot be questioned, may be it is your speech(2nd house which is seriously afflicted along with the 2nd lord)which lets you down. Also for you, gain is measured in material terms (11th house with 11th lord saturn(materialistic) in it ), which may not fit in with your husband's. A detailed look will follow regards arun Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 PS: Apologies, I was called away before I could add the reference from Parashara regarding yoga for ascetism... BPHS Ch79 http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm states that a yoga for ascetism is formed when four or more planets (with strength) occupy a single bhava. Of course other conditions in the horoscope need to support this for it to come to fruition. It would be interesting to compare the two charts :-) ___________ Viswanath, I'm sure you won't mind sharing the data for tipu sultan to enable a comparison of the two charts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Astrologer_vishy Nair " <astrologervishy_nair <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:20 PM Re: Re: Help needed with married life problems 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. regrds viswanath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 respected Viswanath please refer, stanza one, chapter fifteen of Varaha Mihira's Brihat jataka where it states that four or more planets in one house produces pravarajya yogas. Of course as you rightly pointed out, no one condition can be isolated and a conclusion drawn from it. ketu's presence in the 12th with an afflicted 10 house (our field of action)lends support to sanyasa. The fact that Sun (leo is where 5 planets congregate)is strongest in shadbala and the final dispositor of all the other planets puts the focus on leo. Here we can assume that whatever yoga's exist in leo will have a strong influence in the native's life. The 11th house is house of gains and also has the capacity to give us great gains in the field of spirituality. Sun is also the natural significator of the self and the atma and its strength, though probably not good for the external world gives us spiritual authority. I was also wondering at the combined aspect of two malefics Saturn and Mars on the Lagna. Both Saturn and Mars are debility cancelled planets. But Saturn is a Raja Yoga Planet (4th and 5th Lordship)and Vargottama. Saturn is a spiritualizing planet and directly aspects the Lagna (body, the way others percieve us), and the fourth house (home and happiness). Venus has links with the 6th (conjunction with 6th lord jupiter), the 8th (its own lordship) and the 12th (conjunction with 12th Lord mercury), definitely not good for worldly life. Also, there are only malefics in the quadrants. With the Lagna (body) and moon (mind) afflicted / weak, the focus of this horoscope centers around the sun, the strongest planet. All the above may have contributed to the native having left home. Regards arun jyotish-vidya , Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. > > regrds > viswanath > > arun <savitarcyber wrote: > Dear IM, > > Your husband seems to have the a renunciate's (sanyasa) chart, with 5 > planets in one house, ketu in the 12th house and the 10th house and > lord afflicted. In your chart though your heart (4th) and values (9th) > cannot be questioned, may be it is your speech(2nd house which is > seriously afflicted along with the 2nd lord)which lets you down. Also > for you, gain is measured in material terms (11th house with 11th lord > saturn(materialistic) in it ), which may not fit in with your > husband's. > > A detailed look will follow > > regards > arun > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Arun Jee Thank you for the basic analysis of our charts. You are quite correct about my heart, value and speech and I would like to know what can be done to improve my speech, i.e. make me talk sweetly than being bluntly honest. Re. my husband's sanyas and leaving home...it doesnt sound right until now. I don't know if it might or might not be applicable in his old age. For now, he's enjoying his life, drinks smokes, eats good food...has 2 wives (I am the 2nd one) and when he leaves me, he goes to his first wife. Eerytime he leaves me he vows never to return, but nevertheless he returns citing that he knows I am very good at heart and that he will never cause me and our daughter sorrow again. Can I request you and other learned astrologers to please analyse our charts further and clarify my doubts about my queries. I would request Wendy Jee and Prashant Jee (Astrodesk) also to please spend a few moments in analysing our charts. Thanks a lot. Ice Maiden jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > respected Viswanath > > please refer, stanza one, chapter fifteen of Varaha Mihira's Brihat > jataka where it states that four or more planets in one house > produces pravarajya yogas. > Of course as you rightly pointed out, no one condition can be > isolated and a conclusion drawn from it. ketu's presence in the 12th > with an afflicted 10 house (our field of action)lends support to > sanyasa. The fact that Sun (leo is where 5 planets congregate)is > strongest in shadbala and the final dispositor of all the other > planets puts the focus on leo. Here we can assume that whatever > yoga's exist in leo will have a strong influence in the native's > life. The 11th house is house of gains and also has the capacity to > give us great gains in the field of spirituality. Sun is also the > natural significator of the self and the atma and its strength, > though probably not good for the external world gives us spiritual > authority. > I was also wondering at the combined aspect of two malefics Saturn > and Mars on the Lagna. Both Saturn and Mars are debility cancelled > planets. But Saturn is a Raja Yoga Planet (4th and 5th Lordship)and > Vargottama. Saturn is a spiritualizing planet and directly aspects > the Lagna (body, the way others percieve us), and the fourth house > (home and happiness). > Venus has links with the 6th (conjunction with 6th lord jupiter), the > 8th (its own lordship) and the 12th (conjunction with 12th Lord > mercury), definitely not good for worldly life. Also, there are only > malefics in the quadrants. With the Lagna (body) and moon (mind) > afflicted / weak, the focus of this horoscope centers around the sun, > the strongest planet. > All the above may have contributed to the native having left home. > > > Regards > arun > jyotish-vidya , Astrologer_vishy Nair > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > > > 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the > chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. > > > > regrds > > viswanath > > > > arun <savitarcyber@> wrote: > > Dear IM, > > > > Your husband seems to have the a renunciate's (sanyasa) chart, with > 5 > > planets in one house, ketu in the 12th house and the 10th house and > > lord afflicted. In your chart though your heart (4th) and values > (9th) > > cannot be questioned, may be it is your speech(2nd house which is > > seriously afflicted along with the 2nd lord)which lets you down. > Also > > for you, gain is measured in material terms (11th house with 11th > lord > > saturn(materialistic) in it ), which may not fit in with your > > husband's. > > > > A detailed look will follow > > > > regards > > arun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear IM, ///I would request Wendy Jee and Prashant Jee (Astrodesk) also to please spend a few moments in analysing our charts./// Unfortunately I haven't been able to find time to even enter your chart/s in the computer as yet, but, certainly, as soon as time permits, I will do so :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, September 14, 2007 5:31 AM Re: Help needed with married life problems Arun Jee Thank you for the basic analysis of our charts. You are quite correct about my heart, value and speech and I would like to know what can be done to improve my speech, i.e. make me talk sweetly than being bluntly honest. Re. my husband's sanyas and leaving home...it doesnt sound right until now. I don't know if it might or might not be applicable in his old age. For now, he's enjoying his life, drinks smokes, eats good food...has 2 wives (I am the 2nd one) and when he leaves me, he goes to his first wife. Eerytime he leaves me he vows never to return, but nevertheless he returns citing that he knows I am very good at heart and that he will never cause me and our daughter sorrow again. Can I request you and other learned astrologers to please analyse our charts further and clarify my doubts about my queries. I would request Wendy Jee and Prashant Jee (Astrodesk) also to please spend a few moments in analysing our charts. Thanks a lot. Ice Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear List, With due regards and respect to the fellow members, I do not find any essence of " Sanyasa " in this chart. This gentlemen is suffering from extreme " ego " . He knows well what he does. Saturn is transing on his Moon. Though the combinations for the said yoga is there but the supporting conditions are not avialable in relevant charts. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 dear Mrs Wendy I can always share the birth data etc. But is it worthwhile to pursue a rule which failed centuries after centuries? It has been proven again and again that these rules are not correct. Regards MK Viswanath Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: PS: Apologies, I was called away before I could add the reference from Parashara regarding yoga for ascetism... BPHS Ch79 http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm states that a yoga for ascetism is formed when four or more planets (with strength) occupy a single bhava. Of course other conditions in the horoscope need to support this for it to come to fruition. It would be interesting to compare the two charts :-) ___________ Viswanath, I'm sure you won't mind sharing the data for tipu sultan to enable a comparison of the two charts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Astrologer_vishy Nair " <astrologervishy_nair <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:20 PM Re: Re: Help needed with married life problems 5 planets in one house does not make one a sanyasi. Please see the chart of tipu sultan. He was not a sanyasin. regrds viswanath Flying to Bangalore or Bhopal? Search for tickets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Respected Learned Astrologers I appreciate that my husbad's chart has been the cause for starting a deeper and detailed discussions in this group about the yogas (or not) for taking sanyas. While I do not wish to divert you from that subject, I would appreciate if you could spend a few moment to analyse mine and my husband's charts and respond to my queries. Also, I refer to Prashant Jee's email about a native being born in a family due to karmic reasons and mentioning about native's mother. Could it be told why and up to what extent my husband is affected by his family in his (wrong) decisions? His father has expired. His mother is alive (who does not believe niether in honesty nor in keeping up promises) and he has a younger brother - both of whom have strong hold on my husband and take his decisions for him or create such circumstances for him to take such decisions. I will highly appreciate response to my queries re my reunion with my husband. Regards Sangeetha Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Sangeetha, Husband's Chart: What you say regarding your husband's family (brother and mother) is reflected well in his horoscope. As we know, mother is seen from 4th along with Moon (karaka for mother). In your husband's chart, 4th lord Saturn is debilitated in 7th house of spouse, denoting that Saturn's ability to deliver good results to that house are nil. This negativity is only increased with Saturn in vargottama (debilitated in both rasi and navamsa). The aspect of 3rd/6th lord Jupiter, a functional malefic for this chart, is a further disturbance to smooth/harmonious married life (in regards to lordship of 3rd). Jupiter's role as karaka for children suggests a tie to the marriage through your child. The debilitation of dasa lord Mars (lord of 7th) is a further testament to the current difficulties in regards to married life. Your Chart: You too are running dasa of Mars who, in your chart, occupies the 7th house of marriage. Mars occupies nakshatra of Rahu whilst Venus, dispositor of both (MA/RA), is debilitated in 6th (12th from 7th). This (again) does not bode well for happy married life. The aspect of 9th lord Jupiter (significator of children) is an indication that the child of the marriage can be a positive influence (for you) in restoring relations with your spouse. Note; your husband returned to you around the commencement of Jupiter bhukti and left again shortly prior to the onset of Saturn bhukti. It is indeed a sad situation and one that's not easily resolved. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Ice Maiden " <icymaiden2000 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, September 17, 2007 11:12 PM Re: Help needed with married life problems Respected Learned Astrologers I appreciate that my husbad's chart has been the cause for starting a deeper and detailed discussions in this group about the yogas (or not) for taking sanyas. While I do not wish to divert you from that subject, I would appreciate if you could spend a few moment to analyse mine and my husband's charts and respond to my queries. Also, I refer to Prashant Jee's email about a native being born in a family due to karmic reasons and mentioning about native's mother. Could it be told why and up to what extent my husband is affected by his family in his (wrong) decisions? His father has expired. His mother is alive (who does not believe niether in honesty nor in keeping up promises) and he has a younger brother - both of whom have strong hold on my husband and take his decisions for him or create such circumstances for him to take such decisions. I will highly appreciate response to my queries re my reunion with my husband. Regards Sangeetha Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Ms. Sangeetha, I appreciate your patience. The union and reunion would take place time and again. I don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for certain obvious reasons. I sincerely hope and trust, the astrologers who have studied Parashara, for sufficient time would have already found out them and their implications. If you know astrology, see how the dasha sequence operates ever since, both of you were born. You born with Ketu placed in 8th and your spouse born with Ketu placed in 12th. Both of your Moons are in the constellation of Ketu. You both married in the same Mahadasha of Moon. Your Moon is aspected by the 6th lord Jupiter. The Moon of your spouse is with Jupiter who is the 6th lord. The 6th lord is the personification of struggles. Your 5th house of Navamsa has Venus the 7th lord. His 5th lord of Rasi chart placed in 7th house. The marriage was of your choice. Both of you are enjoying the dasha of Mars now. In the case of your spouse, Mars is in 12th from Moon and Venus. (From the lagna lord the 7th lord goes to 12th). In your case Mars is in 7th house. (From the lagna lord the 7th lord goes to 12). Just notice the house of emotions in the chart of your spouse. How many planets influence that house? Try to understand the role of Mars. I asked this very question in this same list, " have we understood the placement of Mars and the implications fully, as instructed by Parashara, in certain places of chart " , before alleging a male impartial towards a woman. No reply so far from any one of the Members of the list. (Do not confuse this part with your query; it is nothing to do with you.). You have asked certain valid questions to another member. Permit me to express my views. See the chart of your spouse. Sun is father. Moon is mother. Mars is brother. Venus is wife. See how they are influencing the 5th house of emotions of your spouse. Sun stands for ego, which is placed in the 11th powerfully in his own sign. Moon, the karaka for mind and mother, is so close with Sun influencing the 5th, resulting in wounded ego. Moon, when powerful and away from Sun, permits a person to operate under a normal egoistic condition. Consider debilitated 4th lord of mother in the house of spouse, the 7th. Consider the debilitated 7th lord of spouse in the 10th house of activities and his aspect on 4th house and the 5th house. Now consider the combined effects of these two planets on the native the lagna. Consider how they are unable to do the justice towards the houses they own. The debilitated Mars in the sign of Cancer gives nervousness and wicked activities to a person. Consider the Jupiter, the sixth lord along with Moon throwing his muscles on 5th house. Jupiter is the dispositor of Rahu who is his AD lord. Rahu takes over the 6th lordship now and he is in 12th from 7th. See where Saturn is placed. See his transit. Separation is the result. The facts which I am writing here all under the valid rules of Parashara. They never fail. They operate under modified conditions from one chart to another. One should have patience to pick them up before labeling the rules of Parashara fails. Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly watch or witness the happenings in a chart. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani 18-Sep-2007 10:14:54 AM jyotish-vidya , Ice Maiden <icymaiden2000 wrote: > > Respected Learned Astrologers > > I appreciate that my husbad's chart has been the cause for starting a deeper and detailed discussions in this group about the yogas (or not) for taking sanyas. > > While I do not wish to divert you from that subject, I would appreciate if you could spend a few moment to analyse mine and my husband's charts and respond to my queries. > > Also, I refer to Prashant Jee's email about a native being born in a family due to karmic reasons and mentioning about native's mother. Could it be told why and up to what extent my husband is affected by his family in his (wrong) decisions? His father has expired. His mother is alive (who does not believe niether in honesty nor in keeping up promises) and he has a younger brother - both of whom have strong hold on my husband and take his decisions for him or create such circumstances for him to take such decisions. > > I will highly appreciate response to my queries re my reunion with my husband. > > Regards > Sangeetha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Wendy Jee Thanks a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts. As re our child - my daughter is very dear to me...she's my life. But my husband has always seen her as a burden. During my pregnancy when we got to know I was having a girl (which is what I had prayed for) my mother-in-law wasn't happy as she wanted a grandson and not a grand daughter (she already has a grandson from my husband's first wife) and so tempered my husband's mind to leave me soon after our daughter was born. My husband always reminds me that its me who wanted a child and not him and hence I am responsible for looking after her, financially and otherwise. Last and this time he left, because he didn't want to bear the financial and other responsibilities of our daughter. We live abroad (temporarily for some years) and the school fees etc. are quite a bit. My husband likes to send his money only to his mother as he feels his responsiblity is only towards her and does not like to share even half financial responsibilities of our daughter as he doesnt feel responsible for us. He's happy to play with our daughter for a little while, etc. as long as he doesn't have to fulfil any responsibilities towards her (which in my opinion any visitor to my house will also like to do). Under such present circumstances, could it still be applicable that our daughter will have any positive influence on my husband. Regards Ice Maiden jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sangeetha, > > Husband's Chart: > What you say regarding your husband's family (brother and mother) is > reflected well in his horoscope. As we know, mother is seen from 4th along > with Moon (karaka for mother). In your husband's chart, 4th lord Saturn is > debilitated in 7th house of spouse, denoting that Saturn's ability to > deliver good results to that house are nil. This negativity is only > increased with Saturn in vargottama (debilitated in both rasi and navamsa). > > The aspect of 3rd/6th lord Jupiter, a functional malefic for this chart, is > a further disturbance to smooth/harmonious married life (in regards to > lordship of 3rd). Jupiter's role as karaka for children suggests a tie to > the marriage through your child. > The debilitation of dasa lord Mars (lord of 7th) is a further testament to > the current difficulties in regards to married life. > > Your Chart: > You too are running dasa of Mars who, in your chart, occupies the 7th house > of marriage. Mars occupies nakshatra of Rahu whilst Venus, dispositor of > both (MA/RA), is debilitated in 6th (12th from 7th). This (again) does not > bode well for happy married life. The aspect of 9th lord Jupiter > (significator of children) is an indication that the child of the marriage > can be a positive influence (for you) in restoring relations with your > spouse. > Note; your husband returned to you around the commencement of Jupiter bhukti > and left again shortly prior to the onset of Saturn bhukti. > > It is indeed a sad situation and one that's not easily resolved. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > - > " Ice Maiden " <icymaiden2000 > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, September 17, 2007 11:12 PM > Re: Help needed with married life problems > > > Respected Learned Astrologers > > I appreciate that my husbad's chart has been the cause for starting a > deeper and detailed discussions in this group about the yogas (or not) for > taking sanyas. > > While I do not wish to divert you from that subject, I would appreciate if > you could spend a few moment to analyse mine and my husband's charts and > respond to my queries. > > Also, I refer to Prashant Jee's email about a native being born in a > family due to karmic reasons and mentioning about native's mother. Could it > be told why and up to what extent my husband is affected by his family in > his (wrong) decisions? His father has expired. His mother is alive (who > does not believe niether in honesty nor in keeping up promises) and he has a > younger brother - both of whom have strong hold on my husband and take his > decisions for him or create such circumstances for him to take such > decisions. > > I will highly appreciate response to my queries re my reunion with my > husband. > > Regards > Sangeetha > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Ravindramani Jee Thank you a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts and giving a detailed reading. I do not know astrology...I only know the basic things about astrology, like what planets are there and what is a house, what is sade-sati, which dasha I and husband are running, etc. ///Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly watch or witness the happenings in a chart./// By being inter-connected do you mean inseperable??? Does it mean our seperation is always temporary?? /// don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for certain obvious reasons./// If you do not wish to discuss in in group, maybe you can let me know separately by email. I am already going throug a lot of stress, which is showing its effets on my health...your response (either negative or positive) can only improve my condition and not worsen it. Even if its negative, at least I know not to wait for my husband and set my mind on my daughter's future alone. I thank all the astrologers for analysing our charts, but I still haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, whcich I know is full of problems. Thanks a lot again Ravindramani Jee. Regards Ice Maiden jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Ms. Sangeetha, > > I appreciate your patience. The union and reunion would take place > time and again. I don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological > principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for > certain obvious reasons. I sincerely hope and trust, the > astrologers who have studied Parashara, for sufficient time would > have already found out them and their implications. > > If you know astrology, see how the dasha sequence operates ever > since, both of you were born. You born with Ketu placed in 8th and > your spouse born with Ketu placed in 12th. Both of your Moons are in > the constellation of Ketu. > > You both married in the same Mahadasha of Moon. Your Moon is aspected > by the 6th lord Jupiter. The Moon of your spouse is with Jupiter who > is the 6th lord. The 6th lord is the personification of struggles. > Your 5th house of Navamsa has Venus the 7th lord. His 5th lord of > Rasi chart placed in 7th house. The marriage was of your choice. > > Both of you are enjoying the dasha of Mars now. In the case of your > spouse, Mars is in 12th from Moon and Venus. (From the lagna lord the > 7th lord goes to 12th). In your case Mars is in 7th house. (From > the lagna lord the 7th lord goes to 12). > > Just notice the house of emotions in the chart of your spouse. How > many planets influence that house? Try to understand the role of > Mars. I asked this very question in this same list, " have we > understood the placement of Mars and the implications fully, as > instructed by Parashara, in certain places of chart " , before alleging > a male impartial towards a woman. No reply so far from any one of > the Members of the list. (Do not confuse this part with your query; > it is nothing to do with you.). > > You have asked certain valid questions to another member. Permit me > to express my views. See the chart of your spouse. Sun is father. > Moon is mother. Mars is brother. Venus is wife. See how they are > influencing the 5th house of emotions of your spouse. Sun stands for > ego, which is placed in the 11th powerfully in his own sign. Moon, > the karaka for mind and mother, is so close with Sun influencing the > 5th, resulting in wounded ego. Moon, when powerful and away from > Sun, permits a person to operate under a normal egoistic condition. > > Consider debilitated 4th lord of mother in the house of spouse, the > 7th. Consider the debilitated 7th lord of spouse in the 10th house > of activities and his aspect on 4th house and the 5th house. Now > consider the combined effects of these two planets on the native the > lagna. Consider how they are unable to do the justice towards the > houses they own. > > The debilitated Mars in the sign of Cancer gives nervousness and > wicked activities to a person. Consider the Jupiter, the sixth lord > along with Moon throwing his muscles on 5th house. Jupiter is the > dispositor of Rahu who is his AD lord. Rahu takes over the 6th > lordship now and he is in 12th from 7th. See where Saturn is > placed. See his transit. Separation is the result. > > The facts which I am writing here all under the valid rules of > Parashara. They never fail. They operate under modified conditions > from one chart to another. One should have patience to pick them up > before labeling the rules of Parashara fails. > > Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor > astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly > watch or witness the happenings in a chart. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > 18-Sep-2007 10:14:54 AM > > jyotish-vidya , Ice Maiden <icymaiden2000@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Learned Astrologers > > > > I appreciate that my husbad's chart has been the cause for > starting a deeper and detailed discussions in this group about the > yogas (or not) for taking sanyas. > > > > While I do not wish to divert you from that subject, I would > appreciate if you could spend a few moment to analyse mine and my > husband's charts and respond to my queries. > > > > Also, I refer to Prashant Jee's email about a native being born > in a family due to karmic reasons and mentioning about native's > mother. Could it be told why and up to what extent my husband is > affected by his family in his (wrong) decisions? His father has > expired. His mother is alive (who does not believe niether in > honesty nor in keeping up promises) and he has a younger brother - > both of whom have strong hold on my husband and take his decisions > for him or create such circumstances for him to take such decisions. > > > > I will highly appreciate response to my queries re my reunion > with my husband. > > > > Regards > > Sangeetha > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 My Dear Sangeetha, ///Under such present circumstances, could it still be applicable that our daughter will have any positive influence on my husband./// I'm afraid you have misunderstood what I said. In your husband's chart I had stated that Jupiter's aspect was a further disturbance to harmonious married life...see below: I Wrote: ///The aspect of 3rd/6th lord Jupiter, a functional malefic for this chart, is a further disturbance to smooth/harmonious married life (in regards to lordship of 3rd). Jupiter's role as karaka for children suggests a tie to the marriage through your child/// In your chart Jupiter's aspect is more favourable (for you)...see below: I Wrote: ///The aspect of 9th lord Jupiter (significator of children) is an indication that the child of the marriage can be a positive influence (for you) in restoring relations with your spouse./// During certain periods, favourable for you, your spouse may well return. However this should not be taken to imply that your husband will necessarily become more favourably disposed towards your child. I wish I had a remedy that could change things for you. For now all I can do is try to help you understand. This is not your fault; it's the karma you both have to play out in this life... As I'm sure you know, Jupiter owning 9th is an auspicious planet for you and normally I'd recommend his gem without hesitation but even this is a little complicated as Jupiter, normally neutral to Moon, is Moon's temporary enemy...Jupiter aspects Moon from Gemini. Please consider also the mutual aspect between JU/MO in light of the fact that Moon occupies 4th from Venus (husband's mother). Moon is inimically placed here in the sign of Jupiter. As I said, at the moment, it's a little complicated in regards to remedies and, unfortunately, my mind is growing weary at this time of night. Other members, with fresher minds, might care to take a look at this. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:22 PM Re: Help needed with married life problems Dear Wendy Jee Thanks a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts. As re our child - my daughter is very dear to me...she's my life. But my husband has always seen her as a burden. During my pregnancy when we got to know I was having a girl (which is what I had prayed for) my mother-in-law wasn't happy as she wanted a grandson and not a grand daughter (she already has a grandson from my husband's first wife) and so tempered my husband's mind to leave me soon after our daughter was born. My husband always reminds me that its me who wanted a child and not him and hence I am responsible for looking after her, financially and otherwise. Last and this time he left, because he didn't want to bear the financial and other responsibilities of our daughter. We live abroad (temporarily for some years) and the school fees etc. are quite a bit. My husband likes to send his money only to his mother as he feels his responsiblity is only towards her and does not like to share even half financial responsibilities of our daughter as he doesnt feel responsible for us. He's happy to play with our daughter for a little while, etc. as long as he doesn't have to fulfil any responsibilities towards her (which in my opinion any visitor to my house will also like to do). Under such present circumstances, could it still be applicable that our daughter will have any positive influence on my husband. Regards Ice Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Wendy Jee Thanks a lot again for studying our charts. I do not know how to read (or understand) horoscopes, but I am trying to understand your messages by reading them over and over again. Your soothing words have had a positive effect on my mind and on my outlook. I hope I will can remember your words for a long time, at least I am until out of the present stressful situation. Regards Sangeetha jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > My Dear Sangeetha, > > ///Under such present circumstances, could it still be applicable that > our daughter will have any positive influence on my husband./// > > I'm afraid you have misunderstood what I said. In your husband's chart I had > stated that Jupiter's aspect was a further disturbance to harmonious married > life...see below: > > I Wrote: > ///The aspect of 3rd/6th lord Jupiter, a functional malefic for this chart, > is a further disturbance to smooth/harmonious married life (in regards to > lordship of 3rd). Jupiter's role as karaka for children suggests a tie to > the marriage through your child/// > > In your chart Jupiter's aspect is more favourable (for you)...see below: > > I Wrote: > ///The aspect of 9th lord Jupiter (significator of children) is an > indication that the child of the marriage can be a positive influence (for > you) in restoring relations with your spouse./// > > During certain periods, favourable for you, your spouse may well return. > However this should not be taken to imply that your husband will necessarily > become more favourably disposed towards your child. > > I wish I had a remedy that could change things for you. For now all I can do > is try to help you understand. This is not your fault; it's the karma you > both have to play out in this life... > > As I'm sure you know, Jupiter owning 9th is an auspicious planet for you and > normally I'd recommend his gem without hesitation but even this is a little > complicated as Jupiter, normally neutral to Moon, is Moon's temporary > enemy...Jupiter aspects Moon from Gemini. > > Please consider also the mutual aspect between JU/MO in light of the fact > that Moon occupies 4th from Venus (husband's mother). Moon is inimically > placed here in the sign of Jupiter. As I said, at the moment, it's a little > complicated in regards to remedies and, unfortunately, my mind is growing > weary at this time of night. > > Other members, with fresher minds, might care to take a look at this. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:22 PM > Re: Help needed with married life problems > > > Dear Wendy Jee > > Thanks a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts. > > As re our child - my daughter is very dear to me...she's my life. > But my husband has always seen her as a burden. During my pregnancy > when we got to know I was having a girl (which is what I had prayed > for) my mother-in-law wasn't happy as she wanted a grandson and not a > grand daughter (she already has a grandson from my husband's first > wife) and so tempered my husband's mind to leave me soon after our > daughter was born. > > My husband always reminds me that its me who wanted a child and not > him and hence I am responsible for looking after her, financially and > otherwise. Last and this time he left, because he didn't want to > bear the financial and other responsibilities of our daughter. We > live abroad (temporarily for some years) and the school fees etc. are > quite a bit. My husband likes to send his money only to his mother > as he feels his responsiblity is only towards her and does not like > to share even half financial responsibilities of our daughter as he > doesnt feel responsible for us. He's happy to play with our daughter > for a little while, etc. as long as he doesn't have to fulfil any > responsibilities towards her (which in my opinion any visitor to my > house will also like to do). > > Under such present circumstances, could it still be applicable that > our daughter will have any positive influence on my husband. > > Regards > Ice Maiden > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ms. Sangeetha, With my little understanding of astrology, your marriage is intact at least for another 5 to 6 years. I do not see a break in marriage/wedlock legally or otherwise before that. I agree with Mrs. Wendy about the condition in which Jupiter is placed in your chart though I have my own personal reservations about using the gems in terms of Upayas to mitigate a problem, hence I am not making any comment about that. Still, it is the very Jupiter keeps your marriage in tact. His aspect on 7th controls the much of the virulent nature of Mars, who owns the 8th in your chart. He is in 2nd from Venus. From 7th house of marriage, Mars aspects your 2nd house of speech. There a malefic Rahu placed. Hence my simple and practical suggestion to you is that " keep your tongue under control when you are provoked " . I know it is very easy to say but to follow. Mars is otherwise known as " Angaraka " – meaning thereby, he is attributed the signification, " burning coal " . As you said you don't understand much of astrology, hence the subtle principles which even I tell you in private, they are not of much use to you. As a principle I never correspond with anybody privately, regarding any query of their chart, since astrology is not my profession. >>>I thank all the astrologers for analyzing our charts, but I still haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, whcich I know is full of problems.>>> I certainly understand your pain. Astrology is so subtle and divine science, it operates from different levels of layers, and depends on number of charts, those who are connected with you, and it is not that you only the reason for what you are undergoing. Hence no astrologer can give you a Yes or No, an unequivocal answer to you, at the least; I am not so capable to give you a Yes or No. Yours sincerely, Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: I have a sister, who has two children, we the undivided Hindu family, takes care of her and raise her two innocent children. The condition of her is not different from you. Hence I understand your pain very well in its core. This portion is for an astrological student and a beginner, who asked me in my personal mail box, why I am attaching too much importance to Mars in a chart. It is not me, it is sage Parashara attached and allotted such significations to him. He attached so much importance subtly, not in one place, but in different places of his treaty. I have the chart of my grand mother, who was abandoned by her husband, who raised my mother all alone. I know the Mars how placed in her chart I know the dasha of her Rahu. I have the chart of my sister, who was not living permanently with her spouse. I know the Mars how placed in her chart. I know the dasha of her Rahu. I know how Rahu is placed in her chart. She tried to commit suicide thrice. Even the exalted lagna lord in lagna and Jupiter from 11th cannot give much happiness from marriage. It is not that everybody would try suicide, simply Rahu in 8th . I know my daughter who is having Rahu in 8th, her Rahu dasha started just now. It is not that she is going to commit suicide in her Rahu dasha. Every chart is unique and different and you can't just throw the bookish significations on them and get confused. Have patience. Every card will fall place in its own place in the pursuit of learning astrology. I know my Mars and I know my Rahu dasha. Mars is yogakaraka for somebody. For some, he is functional benefic. For some he is the greatest enemy i.e. greatest enemy to his Lagna Lord. Mars is the Commander. His duty is to plan strategy. Rahu is the army, he is to fight and decide the course of action. Rahu cannot start anything fresh on his own from certain point. Mars is the leveler of the play ground and Rahu have to implement what Mars shapes in a chart. The seven years of Mars dasha is the base for the 18 years of Rahu. This should be kept in mind, on a simple level, they are natural malefics. The bottom line is that without understanding Mars in a chart, you can't judge Rahu dasha. Hence the dasha sequence plays much importance in a chart and the age of the native when they start operating. Keep away from the controversies of this aspect on Rahu and Ketu, whether they have eyes or not. In actual practice, they are vibrating forces in the heaven. They need no eyes, arms or legs or what so ever limbs to influence you. Neither the planets are friends of any other graham nor do they have enmity among them in heavens. All stipulations are for us to understand them in a systematic manner. We imperfect astrologers understand them as we are and fight among ourselves. jyotish-vidya , " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani Jee > > Thank you a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts and > giving a detailed reading. > > I do not know astrology...I only know the basic things about > astrology, like what planets are there and what is a house, what is > sade-sati, which dasha I and husband are running, etc. > > ///Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor > astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly > watch or witness the happenings in a chart./// > > By being inter-connected do you mean inseperable??? Does it mean our > seperation is always temporary?? > > /// don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological > principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for > certain obvious reasons./// > > If you do not wish to discuss in in group, maybe you can let me know > separately by email. > > I am already going throug a lot of stress, which is showing its > effets on my health...your response (either negative or positive) can > only improve my condition and not worsen it. Even if its negative, > at least I know not to wait for my husband and set my mind on my > daughter's future alone. > > I thank all the astrologers for analysing our charts, but I still > haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with > my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers > don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, > whcich I know is full of problems. > > Thanks a lot again Ravindramani Jee. > > Regards > Ice Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Mr Ravindramani The Postscript is informative and thought provoking. I only wish you delve and write more about Mars and Rahu in any chart that you have come across for the benefit of others. Of course you have written abt ur grandmother sister etc. But the chart is not given. If it is confidential then I do not insist. savithri ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear Ms. Sangeetha, With my little understanding of astrology, your marriage is intact at least for another 5 to 6 years. I do not see a break in marriage/wedlock legally or otherwise before that. I agree with Mrs. Wendy about the condition in which Jupiter is placed in your chart though I have my own personal reservations about using the gems in terms of Upayas to mitigate a problem, hence I am not making any comment about that. Still, it is the very Jupiter keeps your marriage in tact. His aspect on 7th controls the much of the virulent nature of Mars, who owns the 8th in your chart. He is in 2nd from Venus. From 7th house of marriage, Mars aspects your 2nd house of speech. There a malefic Rahu placed. Hence my simple and practical suggestion to you is that " keep your tongue under control when you are provoked " . I know it is very easy to say but to follow. Mars is otherwise known as " Angaraka " – meaning thereby, he is attributed the signification, " burning coal " . As you said you don't understand much of astrology, hence the subtle principles which even I tell you in private, they are not of much use to you. As a principle I never correspond with anybody privately, regarding any query of their chart, since astrology is not my profession. >>>I thank all the astrologers for analyzing our charts, but I still haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, whcich I know is full of problems.>>> I certainly understand your pain. Astrology is so subtle and divine science, it operates from different levels of layers, and depends on number of charts, those who are connected with you, and it is not that you only the reason for what you are undergoing. Hence no astrologer can give you a Yes or No, an unequivocal answer to you, at the least; I am not so capable to give you a Yes or No. Yours sincerely, Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: I have a sister, who has two children, we the undivided Hindu family, takes care of her and raise her two innocent children. The condition of her is not different from you. Hence I understand your pain very well in its core. This portion is for an astrological student and a beginner, who asked me in my personal mail box, why I am attaching too much importance to Mars in a chart. It is not me, it is sage Parashara attached and allotted such significations to him. He attached so much importance subtly, not in one place, but in different places of his treaty. I have the chart of my grand mother, who was abandoned by her husband, who raised my mother all alone. I know the Mars how placed in her chart I know the dasha of her Rahu. I have the chart of my sister, who was not living permanently with her spouse. I know the Mars how placed in her chart. I know the dasha of her Rahu. I know how Rahu is placed in her chart. She tried to commit suicide thrice. Even the exalted lagna lord in lagna and Jupiter from 11th cannot give much happiness from marriage. It is not that everybody would try suicide, simply Rahu in 8th . I know my daughter who is having Rahu in 8th, her Rahu dasha started just now. It is not that she is going to commit suicide in her Rahu dasha. Every chart is unique and different and you can't just throw the bookish significations on them and get confused. Have patience. Every card will fall place in its own place in the pursuit of learning astrology. I know my Mars and I know my Rahu dasha. Mars is yogakaraka for somebody. For some, he is functional benefic. For some he is the greatest enemy i.e. greatest enemy to his Lagna Lord. Mars is the Commander. His duty is to plan strategy. Rahu is the army, he is to fight and decide the course of action. Rahu cannot start anything fresh on his own from certain point. Mars is the leveler of the play ground and Rahu have to implement what Mars shapes in a chart. The seven years of Mars dasha is the base for the 18 years of Rahu. This should be kept in mind, on a simple level, they are natural malefics. The bottom line is that without understanding Mars in a chart, you can't judge Rahu dasha. Hence the dasha sequence plays much importance in a chart and the age of the native when they start operating. Keep away from the controversies of this aspect on Rahu and Ketu, whether they have eyes or not. In actual practice, they are vibrating forces in the heaven. They need no eyes, arms or legs or what so ever limbs to influence you. Neither the planets are friends of any other graham nor do they have enmity among them in heavens. All stipulations are for us to understand them in a systematic manner. We imperfect astrologers understand them as we are and fight among ourselves. jyotish-vidya , " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani Jee > > Thank you a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts and > giving a detailed reading. > > I do not know astrology...I only know the basic things about > astrology, like what planets are there and what is a house, what is > sade-sati, which dasha I and husband are running, etc. > > ///Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor > astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly > watch or witness the happenings in a chart./// > > By being inter-connected do you mean inseperable??? Does it mean our > seperation is always temporary?? > > /// don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological > principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for > certain obvious reasons./// > > If you do not wish to discuss in in group, maybe you can let me know > separately by email. > > I am already going throug a lot of stress, which is showing its > effets on my health...your response (either negative or positive) can > only improve my condition and not worsen it. Even if its negative, > at least I know not to wait for my husband and set my mind on my > daughter's future alone. > > I thank all the astrologers for analysing our charts, but I still > haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with > my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers > don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, > whcich I know is full of problems. > > Thanks a lot again Ravindramani Jee. > > Regards > Ice Maiden Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ravindramani, Your post has said volumes. Thank you for this post. Cheers !!! Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya ] On Behalf Of ravindramani Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:52 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Help needed with married life problems Dear Ms. Sangeetha, With my little understanding of astrology, your marriage is intact at least for another 5 to 6 years. I do not see a break in marriage/wedlock legally or otherwise before that. I agree with Mrs. Wendy about the condition in which Jupiter is placed in your chart though I have my own personal reservations about using the gems in terms of Upayas to mitigate a problem, hence I am not making any comment about that. Still, it is the very Jupiter keeps your marriage in tact. His aspect on 7th controls the much of the virulent nature of Mars, who owns the 8th in your chart. He is in 2nd from Venus. From 7th house of marriage, Mars aspects your 2nd house of speech. There a malefic Rahu placed. Hence my simple and practical suggestion to you is that " keep your tongue under control when you are provoked " . I know it is very easy to say but to follow. Mars is otherwise known as " Angaraka " - meaning thereby, he is attributed the signification, " burning coal " . As you said you don't understand much of astrology, hence the subtle principles which even I tell you in private, they are not of much use to you. As a principle I never correspond with anybody privately, regarding any query of their chart, since astrology is not my profession. >>>I thank all the astrologers for analyzing our charts, but I still haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, whcich I know is full of problems.>>> I certainly understand your pain. Astrology is so subtle and divine science, it operates from different levels of layers, and depends on number of charts, those who are connected with you, and it is not that you only the reason for what you are undergoing. Hence no astrologer can give you a Yes or No, an unequivocal answer to you, at the least; I am not so capable to give you a Yes or No. Yours sincerely, Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: I have a sister, who has two children, we the undivided Hindu family, takes care of her and raise her two innocent children. The condition of her is not different from you. Hence I understand your pain very well in its core. This portion is for an astrological student and a beginner, who asked me in my personal mail box, why I am attaching too much importance to Mars in a chart. It is not me, it is sage Parashara attached and allotted such significations to him. He attached so much importance subtly, not in one place, but in different places of his treaty. I have the chart of my grand mother, who was abandoned by her husband, who raised my mother all alone. I know the Mars how placed in her chart I know the dasha of her Rahu. I have the chart of my sister, who was not living permanently with her spouse. I know the Mars how placed in her chart. I know the dasha of her Rahu. I know how Rahu is placed in her chart. She tried to commit suicide thrice. Even the exalted lagna lord in lagna and Jupiter from 11th cannot give much happiness from marriage. It is not that everybody would try suicide, simply Rahu in 8th . I know my daughter who is having Rahu in 8th, her Rahu dasha started just now. It is not that she is going to commit suicide in her Rahu dasha. Every chart is unique and different and you can't just throw the bookish significations on them and get confused. Have patience. Every card will fall place in its own place in the pursuit of learning astrology. I know my Mars and I know my Rahu dasha. Mars is yogakaraka for somebody. For some, he is functional benefic. For some he is the greatest enemy i.e. greatest enemy to his Lagna Lord. Mars is the Commander. His duty is to plan strategy. Rahu is the army, he is to fight and decide the course of action. Rahu cannot start anything fresh on his own from certain point. Mars is the leveler of the play ground and Rahu have to implement what Mars shapes in a chart. The seven years of Mars dasha is the base for the 18 years of Rahu. This should be kept in mind, on a simple level, they are natural malefics. The bottom line is that without understanding Mars in a chart, you can't judge Rahu dasha. Hence the dasha sequence plays much importance in a chart and the age of the native when they start operating. Keep away from the controversies of this aspect on Rahu and Ketu, whether they have eyes or not. In actual practice, they are vibrating forces in the heaven. They need no eyes, arms or legs or what so ever limbs to influence you. Neither the planets are friends of any other graham nor do they have enmity among them in heavens. All stipulations are for us to understand them in a systematic manner. We imperfect astrologers understand them as we are and fight among ourselves. jyotish-vidya@ <jyotish-vidya%40> , " icymaiden2000 " <icymaiden2000 wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani Jee > > Thank you a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts and > giving a detailed reading. > > I do not know astrology...I only know the basic things about > astrology, like what planets are there and what is a house, what is > sade-sati, which dasha I and husband are running, etc. > > ///Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor > astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly > watch or witness the happenings in a chart./// > > By being inter-connected do you mean inseperable??? Does it mean our > seperation is always temporary?? > > /// don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological > principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration for > certain obvious reasons./// > > If you do not wish to discuss in in group, maybe you can let me know > separately by email. > > I am already going throug a lot of stress, which is showing its > effets on my health...your response (either negative or positive) can > only improve my condition and not worsen it. Even if its negative, > at least I know not to wait for my husband and set my mind on my > daughter's future alone. > > I thank all the astrologers for analysing our charts, but I still > haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with > my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers > don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, > whcich I know is full of problems. > > Thanks a lot again Ravindramani Jee. > > Regards > Ice Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ravindramani Jee Thank you again for detailed response. Regards Sangeetha jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Ms. Sangeetha, > > With my little understanding of astrology, your marriage is intact at > least for another 5 to 6 years. I do not see a break in > marriage/wedlock legally or otherwise before that. I agree with Mrs. > Wendy about the condition in which Jupiter is placed in your chart > though I have my own personal reservations about using the gems in > terms of Upayas to mitigate a problem, hence I am not making any > comment about that. > > Still, it is the very Jupiter keeps your marriage in tact. His > aspect on 7th controls the much of the virulent nature of Mars, who > owns the 8th in your chart. He is in 2nd from Venus. From 7th house > of marriage, Mars aspects your 2nd house of speech. There a malefic > Rahu placed. Hence my simple and practical suggestion to you is > that " keep your tongue under control when you are provoked " . I know > it is very easy to say but to follow. Mars is otherwise known > as " Angaraka " – meaning thereby, he is attributed the > signification, " burning coal " . > > As you said you don't understand much of astrology, hence the subtle > principles which even I tell you in private, they are not of much use > to you. As a principle I never correspond with anybody privately, > regarding any query of their chart, since astrology is not my > profession. > > >>>I thank all the astrologers for analyzing our charts, but I still > haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion with > my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers > don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, > whcich I know is full of problems.>>> > > I certainly understand your pain. Astrology is so subtle and divine > science, it operates from different levels of layers, and depends on > number of charts, those who are connected with you, and it is not > that you only the reason for what you are undergoing. Hence no > astrologer can give you a Yes or No, an unequivocal answer to you, at > the least; I am not so capable to give you a Yes or No. > > Yours sincerely, Regards, > > C.S. Ravindramani. > > PS: I have a sister, who has two children, we the undivided Hindu > family, takes care of her and raise her two innocent children. The > condition of her is not different from you. Hence I understand your > pain very well in its core. > > > This portion is for an astrological student and a beginner, who asked > me in my personal mail box, why I am attaching too much importance to > Mars in a chart. It is not me, it is sage Parashara attached and > allotted such significations to him. He attached so much importance > subtly, not in one place, but in different places of his treaty. > > I have the chart of my grand mother, who was abandoned by her > husband, who raised my mother all alone. I know the Mars how placed > in her chart I know the dasha of her Rahu. > > I have the chart of my sister, who was not living permanently with > her spouse. I know the Mars how placed in her chart. I know the dasha > of her Rahu. I know how Rahu is placed in her chart. She tried to > commit suicide thrice. Even the exalted lagna lord in lagna and > Jupiter from 11th cannot give much happiness from marriage. It is > not that everybody would try suicide, simply Rahu in 8th . I know > my daughter who is having Rahu in 8th, her Rahu dasha started just > now. It is not that she is going to commit suicide in her Rahu > dasha. Every chart is unique and different and you can't just throw > the bookish significations on them and get confused. Have patience. > Every card will fall place in its own place in the pursuit of > learning astrology. > > I know my Mars and I know my Rahu dasha. Mars is yogakaraka for > somebody. For some, he is functional benefic. For some he is the > greatest enemy i.e. greatest enemy to his Lagna Lord. > > Mars is the Commander. His duty is to plan strategy. Rahu is the > army, he is to fight and decide the course of action. Rahu cannot > start anything fresh on his own from certain point. Mars is the > leveler of the play ground and Rahu have to implement what Mars > shapes in a chart. The seven years of Mars dasha is the base for the > 18 years of Rahu. This should be kept in mind, on a simple level, > they are natural malefics. The bottom line is that without > understanding Mars in a chart, you can't judge Rahu dasha. Hence the > dasha sequence plays much importance in a chart and the age of the > native when they start operating. > > Keep away from the controversies of this aspect on Rahu and Ketu, > whether they have eyes or not. In actual practice, they are > vibrating forces in the heaven. They need no eyes, arms or legs or > what so ever limbs to influence you. Neither the planets are friends > of any other graham nor do they have enmity among them in heavens. > All stipulations are for us to understand them in a systematic > manner. We imperfect astrologers understand them as we are and fight > among ourselves. > > jyotish-vidya , " icymaiden2000 " > <icymaiden2000@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ravindramani Jee > > > > Thank you a lot for your time and effort in reading our charts and > > giving a detailed reading. > > > > I do not know astrology...I only know the basic things about > > astrology, like what planets are there and what is a house, what is > > sade-sati, which dasha I and husband are running, etc. > > > > ///Both of you are so inter-connected by the destiny, what a poor > > astrologer like me do under such a situation, except to helplessly > > watch or witness the happenings in a chart./// > > > > By being inter-connected do you mean inseperable??? Does it mean > our > > seperation is always temporary?? > > > > /// don't wish to discuss openly certain astrological > > principles applicable/involved in the charts, under consideration > for > > certain obvious reasons./// > > > > If you do not wish to discuss in in group, maybe you can let me > know > > separately by email. > > > > I am already going throug a lot of stress, which is showing its > > effets on my health...your response (either negative or positive) > can > > only improve my condition and not worsen it. Even if its negative, > > at least I know not to wait for my husband and set my mind on my > > daughter's future alone. > > > > I thank all the astrologers for analysing our charts, but I still > > haven't got any response re my queries in relation to my reunion > with > > my husband. I guess that means it is negative but the astrologers > > don't want to disappoint me?! Or is it not clear from our charts, > > whcich I know is full of problems. > > > > Thanks a lot again Ravindramani Jee. > > > > Regards > > Ice Maiden > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Dear Ms. Savithri, Yes. I have not provided the details of the charts for some obvious reasons. I have two or three charts in my mind, I would discuss them with data on the list some time next week please. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Mr Ravindramani > > The Postscript is informative and thought provoking. I only wish you delve and write more about Mars and Rahu in any chart that you have come across for the benefit of others. Of course you have written abt ur grandmother sister etc. But the chart is not given. If it is confidential then I do not insist. > savithri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Mr Ravindramani I happened to go through ur mail again. The mail wherein u have stated about Mars and Rahu. How the Mars dasa paves way for the succeeding Rahu dasa. Come to think of it I have come across few charts which I would like to share with u for academic interest and of course I might gain some knowledge when u interact. This chart is of a male whose Lagna is Tula with Moola nakshatra. Rahu sukra and sani in vrischika and Mars in Meena. Guru in Kanya.He earned quite well in last leg of sukra Ravi and Chandra dasa. He was not keeping well during Mars but managed well. Once the Rahu dasa started I shudder to recall the times he had to go through. He is no more. He is none other than my only beloved brother. When I saw him suffering my transit Guru was in eighth. Myself and my sister in law used run after doctors and hospitals. When he was in ICU we used to sleep on the hospital verandah and it used to be pathetic and we were not knowing what the next day will be like. He is six years younger to me. There is another Mars Rahu.chart. The lagna is Meena, Rahu in Karka and Mars in Simha. This is a young girl. During Mars dasa she was in crucial Intermediate studies. She fell sick during exams. But wrote her exams was through. She couldnot get good rank for professional course. She used to get hurt frequently-like hairline fractures etc. With great difficulty the bright kid finished her Engineering. Her health and education suffered in Mars dasa. Perhaps Mars in sixth house has to play his role. In Rahu dasa she got a job and got a good match. Now married and happy.Well I donot know what further is in store becaz Rahu dasa is for 18 years. Rahu in Punarvasu and vargothama. regards savithri ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear Ms. Savithri, Yes. I have not provided the details of the charts for some obvious reasons. I have two or three charts in my mind, I would discuss them with data on the list some time next week please. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Mr Ravindramani > > The Postscript is informative and thought provoking. I only wish you delve and write more about Mars and Rahu in any chart that you have come across for the benefit of others. Of course you have written abt ur grandmother sister etc. But the chart is not given. If it is confidential then I do not insist. > savithri > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Ms. Savithri, Thanks for your interest in this thread. Let us interact certainaly. I am slightly busy at the moment coming from a hectic tour. Kindly bear with me. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Mr Ravindramani > > I happened to go through ur mail again. The mail wherein u have stated about Mars and Rahu. How the Mars dasa paves way for the succeeding Rahu dasa. > > Come to think of it I have come across few charts which I would like to share with u for academic interest and of course I might gain some knowledge when u interact. > > This chart is of a male whose Lagna is Tula with Moola nakshatra. Rahu sukra and sani in vrischika and Mars in Meena. Guru in Kanya.He earned quite well in last leg of sukra Ravi and Chandra dasa. > > He was not keeping well during Mars but managed well. Once the Rahu dasa started I shudder to recall the times he had to go through. He is no more. He is none other than my only beloved brother. When I saw him suffering my transit Guru was in eighth. > > Myself and my sister in law used run after doctors and hospitals. When he was in ICU we used to sleep on the hospital verandah and it used to be pathetic and we were not knowing what the next day will be like. He is six years younger to me. > > There is another Mars Rahu.chart. The lagna is Meena, Rahu in Karka and Mars in Simha. This is a young girl. During Mars dasa she was in crucial Intermediate studies. She fell sick during exams. But wrote her exams was through. She couldnot get good rank for professional course. She used to get hurt frequently-like hairline fractures etc. With great difficulty the bright kid finished her Engineering. Her health and education suffered in Mars dasa. Perhaps Mars in sixth house has to play his role. In Rahu dasa she got a job and got a good match. Now married and happy.Well I donot know what further is in store becaz Rahu dasa is for 18 years. Rahu in Punarvasu and vargothama. > > regards > savithri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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