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Dear Wendy

 

a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in using

other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it?

but that should be all the more for us to try use and benefit from them and

suitably correct their birth times. I use them.

 

at least in India where births are not witnessed by a parent of

the ex[ectant mother or the husbad it is dependent on the support staff at

the delivery center, who can look at a clock or watch once her job is done.

some inherent time loss is there.

 

but the west who allow somone else to be in the OT can see it as they r free

from the pressure of the job. now this trend is more in use in India too.

 

About vargas there r some good works by relating to the planet in a

particular amsa by positionm sign gets a name and this gives a lot of clues

to the nature of profession, health/disease, character, valor,

enemies/rivals, conveyances etc.

 

BPHS OF VENKTESWARA PRESS, VARANASI has such info I was told it is in

Sanskrit, and Hindi transulation of it.

 

I've seen this in adyar Library chennai.a v old book and ones published

prior to 50 yrs from today r not leant home for preserving such works which

have paper aging. We can sit and read there though.

 

I can't read that much of non English works sitting in the library itself,

with my sight limitations wherever accents r there is hard to manage

[though I can read French, sanskrit, hindi, telugu, kannada, v little of

tamil] i it is time consuming and stressful toread the accents all the

while.

 

Best wishes

 

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya

wrote:

 

> Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All,

>

> It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read, they can

> only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the

> planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure out for

> ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less our

> tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be.

>

> To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it would

> be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad assumption

> and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should

> endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with

> emotion.

>

> Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely) to the

> position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into this.

> Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken offence...again,

> without looking any further into the matter.

>

> It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this tells

> us...don't you think?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> ___

>

>

>

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Dear Prashant,

 

//a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in

using

other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it?//

 

We can indeed make a proper judgement just by knowing what signs the

planets occupy in vargas.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

 

 

 

 

-

" astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, June 16, 2008 1:20 PM

Re: Discretion comes with knowledge

 

 

Dear Wendy

 

a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in

using

other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it?

but that should be all the more for us to try use and benefit from them

and

suitably correct their birth times. I use them.

 

at least in India where births are not witnessed by a parent of

the ex[ectant mother or the husbad it is dependent on the support staff

at

the delivery center, who can look at a clock or watch once her job is

done.

some inherent time loss is there.

 

but the west who allow somone else to be in the OT can see it as they r

free

from the pressure of the job. now this trend is more in use in India too.

 

About vargas there r some good works by relating to the planet in a

particular amsa by positionm sign gets a name and this gives a lot of

clues

to the nature of profession, health/disease, character, valor,

enemies/rivals, conveyances etc.

 

BPHS OF VENKTESWARA PRESS, VARANASI has such info I was told it is in

Sanskrit, and Hindi transulation of it.

 

I've seen this in adyar Library chennai.a v old book and ones published

prior to 50 yrs from today r not leant home for preserving such works

which

have paper aging. We can sit and read there though.

 

I can't read that much of non English works sitting in the library

itself,

with my sight limitations wherever accents r there is hard to manage

[though I can read French, sanskrit, hindi, telugu, kannada, v little of

tamil] i it is time consuming and stressful toread the accents all the

while.

 

Best wishes

 

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Wendy Vasicek

<jyotishvidya

wrote:

 

> Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All,

>

> It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read, they

> can

> only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the

> planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure out

> for

> ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less our

> tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be.

>

> To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it

> would

> be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad

> assumption

> and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should

> endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with

> emotion.

>

> Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely) to

> the

> position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into this.

> Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken

> offence...again,

> without looking any further into the matter.

>

> It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this tells

> us...don't you think?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

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Dear Mrs.Wendy.

 

Okay. Got your point. She was meaning it

for her parentage, and I was tanget somewhere.

 

But for ones parentage to be influenced by the

position of Rahu IN MY HOROSCOPE Horoscope, I would not

blame Rahu unless it is influencing the Houses/Lords

who indicate father or mother . Because Rahu is sitting

in Lagna, the parents would be from lower

or Upper caste marriage, is ridiculous.

 

On the contrary if Rahu influences the 7th house,

one may call the native having laisons ( partnerships

of all types not just physical friendship )with

all types of persons , maybe of same caste, or upper/lower,

or maybe of same religion or other, but certainly

not put this placement as responsible for Father

Mother belonging to different caste.

 

See what happens, when such students pick

up rahu as the cause, then other unscruplous astrologers

may take advantage of the knowledge the native is

having and may push the native further into this

thinking by supporting him/ her, that yes Rahu is the cause

for all this, and the native may form a life long enmity

with this planet, as we have seen many having formed for

Satutn.

 

Unless the 7th house of the parents is influenced by

Rahu in their charts, or 7th to the the 4th or 9th

in the childs chart, or its Lords is influenced by Rahu,

just Rahu being present in Lagna would not be the

culprit.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

> Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All,

>

> It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read,

they can

> only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the

> planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure

out for

> ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less

our

> tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be.

>

> To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it

would

> be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad

assumption

> and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should

> endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with

> emotion.

>

> Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely)

to the

> position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into

this.

> Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken

offence...again,

> without looking any further into the matter.

>

> It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this

tells

> us...don't you think?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

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Dear Mrs.Wendy and Bhaskarji,

 

The webpage I referred to has made the statement in dispute

under the following title- Lordship of Rahu and Exaggeration of the

importance of / Malefic amplification of / the Lord's house. Because I

was so convinced of rahu's influence in my life I used that statement

to write about the unconventional parentage. Now I realize that I

should have added this statement as an exaggerated interpretation for

Rahu in lagna or should have written not applicable to all.

 

Bhaskarji, I don't believe in that Rahu,ketu or saturn are

bad for anyone. I had such thoughts before joining this group. After

being a member here, I have read lots on these on and off the group

which helped me to understand that all planets give good results but

malefics give that effect after lots of spiritual lessons which is

perceived as sufferings in the material world. I understand that my

reference to Rahu in lagna and it's interpretation has hurt you,but

please don't be angry with me. Do forgive me.

 

Regards,

Manasa

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Dear Manasa,

 

I should have been more wiser,and less impulsive,

after reading the piece written by you, as

Mrs. Wendy rightly pointed out, I know I have

erred. You have come up in a short span of

time and I have been watching you last

few months, you are able to engage discussions

and keep the atmosphere vibrant with your mails.

 

In this case, and as always I have a habit

to sympathise with the underdogs, those

who are always taking a beating.

Saturn and Rahu are most of the time

misunderstood and cornered for their malicious

ness and maleficness which is not entirely

so. Just recently I met a person who has had

the best period of his Life Sat-Sat which

I predicted and which he agreed , as he is

coming close to that antar now. We also know

people who have scaled unimaginable terrains

on the dawn of Rahu Mahadasha, which teaches

us that Planets remain equally justice minded

as their inherent character, but give good

and bad results as per our dues,accruing to us.

 

I am specially running Rahu Mahadasha at

the moment and owe allegiance to Rahu for very

good turning points in my Life, so it was

my duty to defend Rahu when your piece was

read. But I should not have taken it emotionally

for which you too must forgive me.

 

I know you are good by heart.

 

Will close now, With mercury retro wont take

much chances by writing further. I may write

something unproper though may not mean it.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth

wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs.Wendy and Bhaskarji,

>

> The webpage I referred to has made the statement in dispute

> under the following title- Lordship of Rahu and Exaggeration of the

> importance of / Malefic amplification of / the Lord's house.

Because I

> was so convinced of rahu's influence in my life I used that

statement

> to write about the unconventional parentage. Now I realize that I

> should have added this statement as an exaggerated interpretation

for

> Rahu in lagna or should have written not applicable to all.

>

> Bhaskarji, I don't believe in that Rahu,ketu or saturn are

> bad for anyone. I had such thoughts before joining this group. After

> being a member here, I have read lots on these on and off the group

> which helped me to understand that all planets give good results but

> malefics give that effect after lots of spiritual lessons which is

> perceived as sufferings in the material world. I understand that my

> reference to Rahu in lagna and it's interpretation has hurt you,but

> please don't be angry with me. Do forgive me.

>

> Regards,

> Manasa

>

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Wendy ji,

 

///The potential for communication problems crops up repeatedly when Mercury

turns retrograde.///

 

I almost had nasty words with somebody senior at the office

recently--fortunately, the aspect of Sani on Budha right now seems to have

tempered my attitude and calmed me down! :-)

 

> We should take extra care in how we choose our words when Mercury turns

retrograde.

 

Very true! I'm being very careful right now, especially with neecha 6th lord

Kuja in the 2nd house of mouth!

 

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

http://www.balaji.ind.in/

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Dear Balaji,

 

Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive effect

on vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes harsh and

negative / critical / cold words.

 

Yours,

Vic

 

Balaji Narasimhan wrote:

> Wendy ji,

>

> ///The potential for communication problems crops up repeatedly when Mercury

turns retrograde.///

>

> I almost had nasty words with somebody senior at the office

recently--fortunately, the aspect of Sani on Budha right now seems to have

tempered my attitude and calmed me down! :-)

>

>

>> We should take extra care in how we choose our words when Mercury turns

retrograde.

>>

>

> Very true! I'm being very careful right now, especially with neecha 6th lord

Kuja in the 2nd house of mouth!

>

> ~~~~~~~~~

> Balaji Narasimhan

> Author & Editor

> http://www.balaji.ind.in/

> ~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

>

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Vic ji,

 

///Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive effect on

vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes harsh and negative /

critical / cold words.///

 

In my case, Sani's moolatrikona falls in the 9th and this is why he will help.

 

Sani also rules contemplation, meditation, transcendence, coolness, and others,

as per http://www.jyotishvidya.com/planets.htm

 

BTW, congratulations on becoming our newest moderator! :-)

 

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

http://www.balaji.ind.in/

~~~~~~~~~

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Dear Balaji

 

Thank you for your congratulations and thoughts pertaining to a

positive impact from Saturn on Retrograde Mercury. I appreciate your

angle and it's validity.

 

- Vic

 

On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Balaji Narasimhan wrote:

 

> Vic ji,

>

> ///Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive

> effect on vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes

> harsh and negative / critical / cold words.///

>

> In my case, Sani's moolatrikona falls in the 9th and this is why he

> will help.

>

> Sani also rules contemplation, meditation, transcendence, coolness,

> and others, as per http://www.jyotishvidya.com/planets.htm

>

> BTW, congratulations on becoming our newest moderator! :-)

>

> ~~~~~~~~~

> Balaji Narasimhan

> Author & Editor

> http://www.balaji.ind.in/

> ~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Vic ji,

 

///Thank you for your congratulations and thoughts pertaining to a positive

impact from Saturn on Retrograde Mercury.///

 

Thanks! :-)

 

Sometimes, it is funny when Sani becomes a functional benefic - especially when

his own PD is running.

 

In such cases, he gives you BOTH gloom AND optimism--a bit of an oxymoron, I

know, but this happens nevertheless.

 

If I may quote an example from my own life--in November 2005, I was called for a

job interview.

 

Before I went, I thought, " I will not get the job. Even if I get it, I will not

even stay there for one year. " This is the natural gloominess of Sani speaking.

 

But Sani, my 9th lord, also aspects Chandra, so I said, " I shall try and see! "

 

And not only did I get the job, I have also stayed there till now--and that's 2

and a 1/2 years and counting!

 

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

http://www.balaji.ind.in/

~~~~~~~~~

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