Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear Wendy a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in using other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it? but that should be all the more for us to try use and benefit from them and suitably correct their birth times. I use them. at least in India where births are not witnessed by a parent of the ex[ectant mother or the husbad it is dependent on the support staff at the delivery center, who can look at a clock or watch once her job is done. some inherent time loss is there. but the west who allow somone else to be in the OT can see it as they r free from the pressure of the job. now this trend is more in use in India too. About vargas there r some good works by relating to the planet in a particular amsa by positionm sign gets a name and this gives a lot of clues to the nature of profession, health/disease, character, valor, enemies/rivals, conveyances etc. BPHS OF VENKTESWARA PRESS, VARANASI has such info I was told it is in Sanskrit, and Hindi transulation of it. I've seen this in adyar Library chennai.a v old book and ones published prior to 50 yrs from today r not leant home for preserving such works which have paper aging. We can sit and read there though. I can't read that much of non English works sitting in the library itself, with my sight limitations wherever accents r there is hard to manage [though I can read French, sanskrit, hindi, telugu, kannada, v little of tamil] i it is time consuming and stressful toread the accents all the while. Best wishes On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All, > > It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read, they can > only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the > planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure out for > ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less our > tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be. > > To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it would > be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad assumption > and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should > endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with > emotion. > > Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely) to the > position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into this. > Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken offence...again, > without looking any further into the matter. > > It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this tells > us...don't you think? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear Prashant, //a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in using other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it?// We can indeed make a proper judgement just by knowing what signs the planets occupy in vargas. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 16, 2008 1:20 PM Re: Discretion comes with knowledge Dear Wendy a good point, the probable dilema could be accuracy of birth time in using other vargas which r time sensitive isnt it? but that should be all the more for us to try use and benefit from them and suitably correct their birth times. I use them. at least in India where births are not witnessed by a parent of the ex[ectant mother or the husbad it is dependent on the support staff at the delivery center, who can look at a clock or watch once her job is done. some inherent time loss is there. but the west who allow somone else to be in the OT can see it as they r free from the pressure of the job. now this trend is more in use in India too. About vargas there r some good works by relating to the planet in a particular amsa by positionm sign gets a name and this gives a lot of clues to the nature of profession, health/disease, character, valor, enemies/rivals, conveyances etc. BPHS OF VENKTESWARA PRESS, VARANASI has such info I was told it is in Sanskrit, and Hindi transulation of it. I've seen this in adyar Library chennai.a v old book and ones published prior to 50 yrs from today r not leant home for preserving such works which have paper aging. We can sit and read there though. I can't read that much of non English works sitting in the library itself, with my sight limitations wherever accents r there is hard to manage [though I can read French, sanskrit, hindi, telugu, kannada, v little of tamil] i it is time consuming and stressful toread the accents all the while. Best wishes On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All, > > It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read, they > can > only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the > planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure out > for > ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less our > tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be. > > To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it > would > be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad > assumption > and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should > endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with > emotion. > > Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely) to > the > position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into this. > Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken > offence...again, > without looking any further into the matter. > > It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this tells > us...don't you think? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear Mrs.Wendy. Okay. Got your point. She was meaning it for her parentage, and I was tanget somewhere. But for ones parentage to be influenced by the position of Rahu IN MY HOROSCOPE Horoscope, I would not blame Rahu unless it is influencing the Houses/Lords who indicate father or mother . Because Rahu is sitting in Lagna, the parents would be from lower or Upper caste marriage, is ridiculous. On the contrary if Rahu influences the 7th house, one may call the native having laisons ( partnerships of all types not just physical friendship )with all types of persons , maybe of same caste, or upper/lower, or maybe of same religion or other, but certainly not put this placement as responsible for Father Mother belonging to different caste. See what happens, when such students pick up rahu as the cause, then other unscruplous astrologers may take advantage of the knowledge the native is having and may push the native further into this thinking by supporting him/ her, that yes Rahu is the cause for all this, and the native may form a life long enmity with this planet, as we have seen many having formed for Satutn. Unless the 7th house of the parents is influenced by Rahu in their charts, or 7th to the the 4th or 9th in the childs chart, or its Lords is influenced by Rahu, just Rahu being present in Lagna would not be the culprit. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Bhaskar, Manasa and All, > > It doesn't matter what websites we go to or what books we read, they can > only (at best) give us a general guideline to the nature of the > planets...the rest, modified by so many things, we have to figure out for > ourselves! Without doubt, the more our understanding grows the less our > tendency to take offence at an other's interpretation will be. > > To look into the matter of parents for instance, don't you think it would > be wise to at least consult dwadashamsha before making a broad assumption > and/or taking offence at a perceived insult. At all times we should > endeavour to counter an assumption with knowledge rather than with > emotion. > > Manasa has assumed that her parents mixed marriage is due (solely) to the > position of Rahu in her chart without looking any further into this. > Whilst Bhaskar, with the same Rahu placement, has taken offence...again, > without looking any further into the matter. > > It would be a good idea to consult dwadashamsha and see what this tells > us...don't you think? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Wendy ji, Evidently, Budha being Vakra seems to have caused a communication problem! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear Mrs.Wendy and Bhaskarji, The webpage I referred to has made the statement in dispute under the following title- Lordship of Rahu and Exaggeration of the importance of / Malefic amplification of / the Lord's house. Because I was so convinced of rahu's influence in my life I used that statement to write about the unconventional parentage. Now I realize that I should have added this statement as an exaggerated interpretation for Rahu in lagna or should have written not applicable to all. Bhaskarji, I don't believe in that Rahu,ketu or saturn are bad for anyone. I had such thoughts before joining this group. After being a member here, I have read lots on these on and off the group which helped me to understand that all planets give good results but malefics give that effect after lots of spiritual lessons which is perceived as sufferings in the material world. I understand that my reference to Rahu in lagna and it's interpretation has hurt you,but please don't be angry with me. Do forgive me. Regards, Manasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear Manasa, I should have been more wiser,and less impulsive, after reading the piece written by you, as Mrs. Wendy rightly pointed out, I know I have erred. You have come up in a short span of time and I have been watching you last few months, you are able to engage discussions and keep the atmosphere vibrant with your mails. In this case, and as always I have a habit to sympathise with the underdogs, those who are always taking a beating. Saturn and Rahu are most of the time misunderstood and cornered for their malicious ness and maleficness which is not entirely so. Just recently I met a person who has had the best period of his Life Sat-Sat which I predicted and which he agreed , as he is coming close to that antar now. We also know people who have scaled unimaginable terrains on the dawn of Rahu Mahadasha, which teaches us that Planets remain equally justice minded as their inherent character, but give good and bad results as per our dues,accruing to us. I am specially running Rahu Mahadasha at the moment and owe allegiance to Rahu for very good turning points in my Life, so it was my duty to defend Rahu when your piece was read. But I should not have taken it emotionally for which you too must forgive me. I know you are good by heart. Will close now, With mercury retro wont take much chances by writing further. I may write something unproper though may not mean it. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Mrs.Wendy and Bhaskarji, > > The webpage I referred to has made the statement in dispute > under the following title- Lordship of Rahu and Exaggeration of the > importance of / Malefic amplification of / the Lord's house. Because I > was so convinced of rahu's influence in my life I used that statement > to write about the unconventional parentage. Now I realize that I > should have added this statement as an exaggerated interpretation for > Rahu in lagna or should have written not applicable to all. > > Bhaskarji, I don't believe in that Rahu,ketu or saturn are > bad for anyone. I had such thoughts before joining this group. After > being a member here, I have read lots on these on and off the group > which helped me to understand that all planets give good results but > malefics give that effect after lots of spiritual lessons which is > perceived as sufferings in the material world. I understand that my > reference to Rahu in lagna and it's interpretation has hurt you,but > please don't be angry with me. Do forgive me. > > Regards, > Manasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Wendy ji, ///The potential for communication problems crops up repeatedly when Mercury turns retrograde./// I almost had nasty words with somebody senior at the office recently--fortunately, the aspect of Sani on Budha right now seems to have tempered my attitude and calmed me down! :-) > We should take extra care in how we choose our words when Mercury turns retrograde. Very true! I'm being very careful right now, especially with neecha 6th lord Kuja in the 2nd house of mouth! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Dear Balaji, Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive effect on vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes harsh and negative / critical / cold words. Yours, Vic Balaji Narasimhan wrote: > Wendy ji, > > ///The potential for communication problems crops up repeatedly when Mercury turns retrograde./// > > I almost had nasty words with somebody senior at the office recently--fortunately, the aspect of Sani on Budha right now seems to have tempered my attitude and calmed me down! :-) > > >> We should take extra care in how we choose our words when Mercury turns retrograde. >> > > Very true! I'm being very careful right now, especially with neecha 6th lord Kuja in the 2nd house of mouth! > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Vic ji, ///Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive effect on vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes harsh and negative / critical / cold words./// In my case, Sani's moolatrikona falls in the 9th and this is why he will help. Sani also rules contemplation, meditation, transcendence, coolness, and others, as per http://www.jyotishvidya.com/planets.htm BTW, congratulations on becoming our newest moderator! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Dear Balaji Thank you for your congratulations and thoughts pertaining to a positive impact from Saturn on Retrograde Mercury. I appreciate your angle and it's validity. - Vic On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Balaji Narasimhan wrote: > Vic ji, > > ///Please let me know your reasoning why Shani would have a positive > effect on vakra budha. It strikes me oppositely. That Saturn causes > harsh and negative / critical / cold words./// > > In my case, Sani's moolatrikona falls in the 9th and this is why he > will help. > > Sani also rules contemplation, meditation, transcendence, coolness, > and others, as per http://www.jyotishvidya.com/planets.htm > > BTW, congratulations on becoming our newest moderator! :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Vic ji, ///Thank you for your congratulations and thoughts pertaining to a positive impact from Saturn on Retrograde Mercury./// Thanks! :-) Sometimes, it is funny when Sani becomes a functional benefic - especially when his own PD is running. In such cases, he gives you BOTH gloom AND optimism--a bit of an oxymoron, I know, but this happens nevertheless. If I may quote an example from my own life--in November 2005, I was called for a job interview. Before I went, I thought, " I will not get the job. Even if I get it, I will not even stay there for one year. " This is the natural gloominess of Sani speaking. But Sani, my 9th lord, also aspects Chandra, so I said, " I shall try and see! " And not only did I get the job, I have also stayed there till now--and that's 2 and a 1/2 years and counting! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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