Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Manasa, well Please listen to Lalitha Sahasranamam or read it at least it u will find the line .....SHOBANA SHUDHA MANASA.,,,, SHOBANA AND SHUDDA MANASA ARE ONE OF THE NAMES OF DEVI LALITHA it can be one of the snakes too no doubt in that u will find multiple references to most of Puranic and vedic entities. rest is a different matter we can deal it also [the influences in ur chart] Prashantkumar On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:40 PM, m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I am truly convinced of the nodal influence on me. Some interesting > supportive points: > > My name in the group Manasa relates to a snake goddess worshipped > in west bengal,India ( I found out this only today!!, perhaps a > strange coincidence). > > My interest in Astrology began only in Rahu Dasha ( Rahu in leo > working through Sun in fifth house). > > My interest in music especially devotional and western music grew > during this time. Never before I had interest in these two. > > After the start of Rahu Dasa I have been away from home.Came to > Canada in Rahu/Sat. Saturn in naks.of sun. > > I got an introduction to the meditation practice in Rahu/jup period > and experienced the energy chakras in the transit of jupiter through > 5th house. > > I am very familiar with highs and lows (mood swings); never in the > mid-range. Meditation has helped me lots in this. (Jupiter in > between rahu and mars) > > Under the jaimini scheme, I found my chara-atmakaraka to be Rahu > which works through natural atmakaraka Sun (chara-putrakaraka). Well, > that cautions me about the trouble I will have in begetting a child. > > Interestingly all planets in my chart are connected to sun and > final dispositor in mutual reception sun/jupiter. So when life's > lessons well learnt, there will be a positive outcome :-).Hope the > karmic debt from the past gets erased in this life. > > Regards, > Manasa. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Dear Prashanthji, Thanx for refering to the line from lalita sahasranamam. All devi forms worshipped by Hindhus is one or other forms of Shakti devi. I did come across the mantra 'Om shuddha manasaye namah' referring to the purity(shuddha) of the goddess mind (manasa). Infact in many places the word manasa is repeated in sahsranamam referring to 'mind'. Manasa devi worship began as a cult among the tribal groups of bengal.For a certain time she was considered as " tribal snake goddess " , but later hailed as a Hindhu goddess. The myth around her says that she was denied full godhead because of her mixed parentage which made her very unhappy and she aimed to achieve full authority as goddess in which she succeeded. A detailed article is there in wikepedia. I referred to the name (manasa) in my previous post just to show the 'Sarpa' influence even when I selected a name. Rahu(sarpa)in lagna " Typically a multicultural personality whose origins are smoky, outcaste, or harmed by some social taboo such as birth defect, orphans or illegitimate birth. " My parents got married by breaking a social taboo viz, high caste person should not marry a low caste person. My parents had to face displeasure from my maternal as well as paternal relatives. I was brought up in an environment where there were no petty talks on caste. My family follow the customs of both traditions. This is against the normal social setting in my birth place. ( All could be a strange coincidence). Regards, Manasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Dear Manasa, You say that you were born in a environment where there were no petty talks of caste system . This is good to hear. But Manasa why are you then coming from such a family putting up petty refernces to the planets as mentioned by you - Rahu(sarpa)in lagna " Typically a multicultural personality whose origins are smoky, outcaste, or harmed by some social taboo such as birth defect, orphans or illegitimate birth. " Rahu and also none of the planets deserve such references. Planets are good or bad , they work as beneficial or malefic, as per the results alloted to the native , which is governed by his past and present karmas. These poor planets have no role in holding any bias to anyone. I have Rahu in the lagna, and so do millions. But none of the above effects mentioned by You, can be attributed to me in any manner. Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Prashanthji, > > Thanx for refering to the line from lalita sahasranamam. All devi > forms worshipped by Hindhus is one or other forms of Shakti devi. I > did come across the mantra 'Om shuddha manasaye namah' referring to > the purity(shuddha) of the goddess mind (manasa). Infact in many > places the word manasa is repeated in sahsranamam referring to 'mind'. > > Manasa devi worship began as a cult among the tribal groups of > bengal.For a certain time she was considered as " tribal snake > goddess " , but later hailed as a Hindhu goddess. The myth around her > says that she was denied full godhead because of her mixed parentage > which made her very unhappy and she aimed to achieve full authority as > goddess in which she succeeded. A detailed article is there in wikepedia. > > I referred to the name (manasa) in my previous post just to show > the 'Sarpa' influence even when I selected a name. Rahu(sarpa)in lagna > " Typically a multicultural personality whose origins are smoky, > outcaste, or harmed by some social taboo such as birth defect, orphans > or illegitimate birth. " > > My parents got married by breaking a social taboo viz, high caste > person should not marry a low caste person. My parents had to face > displeasure from my maternal as well as paternal relatives. I was > brought up in an environment where there were no petty talks on caste. > My family follow the customs of both traditions. This is against the > normal social setting in my birth place. > ( All could be a strange coincidence). > > Regards, > Manasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, // But Manasa why are you then coming from such a family putting up petty refernces to the planets as mentioned by you // Now that's a pretty harsh statement, Isn't it ? Why do you write in such a way that it hurts people? I tried to correlate something I read with some instances from my life. Does that required to be responded by such harsh statements? I didn't write that what I wrote is applicable to all.But, thank you for voicing your opinion on one of my posts.I have used http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Topics/Rahu_Ketu.htm as a reference. Please do look into the webpage,if time permits and do express your opinion. Thank you. Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Dear Manasa, // Now that's a pretty harsh statement, Isn't it ? Why do you write in such a way that it hurts people? // That is not a harsh statement but on the contrary I have written very well and in a very sobre tone to my knowledge,though I was the party who was hurt being a good astrologer who loves the planets he deals with daily.The reference to Rahu as Sarpa, was not in good taste. I have Rahu in lagna and so many scores of the members here may be having so. The reference to people who were born with Rahu in Lagna was all the more derogatory, since you have ascribed these results , I repeat for those who have Rahu in lagna. // Typically a multicultural personality whose origins are smoky, outcaste, or harmed by some social taboo such as birth defect, orphans or illegitimate birth. // This is not the way. As regards to some website having written so, then there are many websites writing Jyotish as a fake science, and their writing so does not make them authentic. We have to use discretion and commonsense while picking up extracts from Web sites and reproducing them. But we must now give a close to this discussion, ( Between you and me ), for we have to respect the Forum for its aura and serenity. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > // But Manasa why are you then coming from such a family putting up > petty refernces to the planets as mentioned by you // > > Now that's a pretty harsh statement, Isn't it ? Why do you write in > such a way that it hurts people? I tried to correlate something I read > with some instances from my life. Does that required to be responded by > such harsh statements? I didn't write that what I wrote is applicable > to all.But, thank you for voicing your opinion on one of my posts.I > have used http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Topics/Rahu_Ketu.htm as a > reference. Please do look into the webpage,if time permits and do > express your opinion. > > Thank you. > Manasa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Manasa u got the point for ur Rahu influence in ur own last para unconventional parentage, marriage even of urself r possible here. though we don't subcribe to the caste by borth as a yardstick, clearly they were meant to draw up a professional class identity and of course cultural, spiritual and hygene played a role in slowly shaping their boundries. we see boundries in every from once we create a linguist state we see how panjab, huryana people react to their water crisis.sharing soo to KarnatakaTN which formed part of the earlier Madras presidency on the river cauvery which was part of both states in present fom but in past was one state have boundries in the mind more. the logic that water is a resoruce for the farmhers accross both sates than a language group has never been right to fix these problems like wise our caste lines were meant for the good but by declining values it has also decline. Like i said in the start the hygee, cultural, spiritual part has a role too and even in Aparthaid era in South africa and past it research has shown the indeginois ople who had their own clans, tribes etc has different intellectual, health levels people who led a organised life and people who lived like animals stillwith wild ways their genetic codes did show how children born tothem differed. as long as people use their brains more none of the walls man has made will last. after this it will remain who applies values, culture, spiritual/humane values to a good effect till be healthy in everyway. a healthy, happy family can bring in other s into such groups and thus make happy societies, colonies, states, countries......! btw for info what r ur parents castes at birth and did the upper caste parent's family follow theier family ine say a Bania was he a bania or a professional a priest/teacher caste did s/he remain in same or changed their profession thse will denote their identies more. Brahmins as such were the 1st to suffer a knee jerk reaction and took to many jobs before they disappeared from their hands, right from admin to a sweeper all roles theyr in now.[ v little in priesthood or teaching] Best wishes Prashant kumar On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:57 AM, m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > Dear Prashanthji, > > Thanx for refering to the line from lalita sahasranamam. All devi > forms worshipped by Hindhus is one or other forms of Shakti devi. I > did come across the mantra 'Om shuddha manasaye namah' referring to > the purity(shuddha) of the goddess mind (manasa). Infact in many > places the word manasa is repeated in sahsranamam referring to 'mind'. > > Manasa devi worship began as a cult among the tribal groups of > bengal.For a certain time she was considered as " tribal snake > goddess " , but later hailed as a Hindhu goddess. The myth around her > says that she was denied full godhead because of her mixed parentage > which made her very unhappy and she aimed to achieve full authority as > goddess in which she succeeded. A detailed article is there in wikepedia. > > I referred to the name (manasa) in my previous post just to show > the 'Sarpa' influence even when I selected a name. Rahu(sarpa)in lagna > " Typically a multicultural personality whose origins are smoky, > outcaste, or harmed by some social taboo such as birth defect, orphans > or illegitimate birth. " > > My parents got married by breaking a social taboo viz, high caste > person should not marry a low caste person. My parents had to face > displeasure from my maternal as well as paternal relatives. I was > brought up in an environment where there were no petty talks on caste. > My family follow the customs of both traditions. This is against the > normal social setting in my birth place. > ( All could be a strange coincidence). > > Regards, > Manasa > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Manasa, I LOVE this post. I think Rahu and Ketu are extremely influential on EVERYONE (though clearly on you especially) - they are the only beings called Grahas or Planets which actually have no physical, three dimensional mass. Sudarshan Chakra of Mohini Murti Herself created Rahu and Ketu. They are the only Graha's directly created by Sri Vishnu is such a dramatic and obvious fashion. Personally, I LOVE them. Notice that Sri Krishna Bhagavan is also quite influenced by them at their best. Yours, Vic PS - I will continue to think of " Manasa " as the subtle mental self, rather than a snake woman! =) m2sangeeth wrote: > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I am truly convinced of the nodal influence on me. Some interesting > supportive points: > > My name in the group Manasa relates to a snake goddess worshipped > in west bengal,India ( I found out this only today!!, perhaps a > strange coincidence). > > My interest in Astrology began only in Rahu Dasha ( Rahu in leo > working through Sun in fifth house). > > My interest in music especially devotional and western music grew > during this time. Never before I had interest in these two. > > After the start of Rahu Dasa I have been away from home.Came to > Canada in Rahu/Sat. Saturn in naks.of sun. > > I got an introduction to the meditation practice in Rahu/jup period > and experienced the energy chakras in the transit of jupiter through > 5th house. > > I am very familiar with highs and lows (mood swings); never in the > mid-range. Meditation has helped me lots in this. (Jupiter in > between rahu and mars) > > Under the jaimini scheme, I found my chara-atmakaraka to be Rahu > which works through natural atmakaraka Sun (chara-putrakaraka). Well, > that cautions me about the trouble I will have in begetting a child. > > Interestingly all planets in my chart are connected to sun and > final dispositor in mutual reception sun/jupiter. So when life's > lessons well learnt, there will be a positive outcome :-).Hope the > karmic debt from the past gets erased in this life. > > > Regards, > Manasa. > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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