Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Dear Arun, ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)/// Using the coordinates provided by Pravin my software gives Scorpio rising 29:49:04? Perhaps other members can check this. Of course just a small rectification in birth time could give Sagittarius rising? ///Vargottama mercury, who is in lagna, has been able to express its bhadaka properties in full because of its reulership of maandi (in virgo)./// Can you show me the reference to bhadaka in the following description of the nature of planets due to lordship (in relation to vimsottari dasa system). http://jyotishvidya.com/ch34.htm ///Mercury is the significator of nervous system./// As Mercury, Saturn and Ketu are all associated with the nerves/nervous system in some way, we need to differentiate one from the other as clearly as we can. 1) Ketu is said to govern the central nervous system (CNS) which consists of the BRAIN and SPINAL CORD. 2) Saturn governs the nervous system made up of the nerves outside the CNS which connect the brain and spinal cord to the organs and MUSCLES of the body...remember the sapta dhatu (primary constituent) ruled by Saturn is muscles. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch3.htm 3) Mercury governs the automatic or involuntary nervous system consisting of NERVE CENTRES and fibres inside as well as outside the central nervous system. Mercury further governs the SENSORIUM (how we perceive things received through the senses). Note; in the said chart, dasa lord Venus (star lord of both ME/SA) occupies nakshatra of Ketu as does Ketu himself. The catalyst (I believe) in the diagnosis of this disease is the placement of bhukti lord Rahu in the sign of Saturn... As MND is of long duration we need to consider the transit of the slower moving planets in particular. In this instance the transit of SA/KE over natal Ketu is a significant factor. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " arun " <savitarcyber <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:36 PM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear all, Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius) Ascendent is in moola nakshatra in near exact oncjunction with functional malefic 6th and 11th lord venus who also occupies moola nakshatra. Ths is a strong indication of the disease potential. Vargottama mercury, who is in lagna, has been able to express its bhadaka properties in full because of its reulership of maandi (in virgo). Mercury is the significator of nervous system. Mercury also carries with it its maraka properties (7th lordship), but does not express its kendradhipathi dosa as it is placed in lagna (in bhava chart mercury moves to the 2nd house and therefore may express this dosa to some extend). Now why an expression of this affliction as a neuro muscular disorder? Mars is the natural significator of muscle and it is also the 12th lord. Mars is first in shadbala and also the final significator of all the other planets gaining great strength. Mars is less than 3 deg away from the lagna lord jupiter, who is weakest in shadbala and has been totally overcome by Mars. The 12th house represents decay and waste and the significations of mars (muscle) and jupiter (body(lagna lord), happiness) are wasted away leading to confinment (12th house properties). Together Mercury and Mars have brought about this crippling effect. Taking the moon as the ascendant we find the ascendant being subject to papakartari yoga between saturn, who is debility cancelled, and Rahu occupying his own house of aquarius. In the Navamsa chart the ascendant is along the rahu ketu axis with Venus the 2nd and 7th lord in the lagna. the 12th lord jupiter aspects lagna along with lagna lord (positive factor). Overall, when the lagna is deeply afflicted, Ayus gets limited. Remedy: In such situations, Maha mrityunjaya mantra and, if possible, the maha mrityunjaya homa. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Dear Arun, ///for the badaka analysis I have used the notes given in " advanced principles of prediction " by Gayatri Devi Vasudev and for calculating maandi's position I have used the notes provided in " prasna marga " by B.V.Raman./// The problem here is that bhadaka is based on the relationship between the signs. This, along with rasi (sign) aspects and sign-based dasas, belongs to a unique system and is not really interchangeable with the vimsottari (planet specific) dasa system in which the nature of planets is due to lordship rather than sign placement. I'm well aware that because much of Jaimini has been included in BPHS there is a lot of confusion. However, I think, if we let our common-sense guide us, it shouldn't be too difficult to work things out. The origins of BPHS are a controversial topic at the moment and there is a big question mark whether BPHS is actually a work of Parashara with many Sanskrit scholars believing that it is a relatively modern text (post 600AD) which is a compilation of several different texts. It's said that the available version of BPHS was compiled and rewritten in the 19th century by a scholar who visited many Pundits in an attempt to put the text together after having been lost for so many centuries. Because of this it is quite likely that mistakes have crept in and that parts may have been added which do not actually belong. But, be that as it may, common-sense alone should tell us that, determining the functionality of the planets as per sign placement (bhadaka) along with planetary lordship (yoga karakas) as per vimsottari, is entering into extremely murky waters. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " arun " <savitarcyber <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:51 AM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Wendy, for the badaka analysis I have used the notes given in " advanced principles of prediction " by Gayatri Devi Vasudev and for calculating maandi's position I have used the notes provided in " prasna marga " by B.V.Raman. If lagna is scorpio, then the lagna lord mars is very strong, still being first in shadbala and the dispositor of all the other planets. The lagna has jupiter who as the 5th lord (benefic) and also the 2nd lord (maraka)is, overall, considered a benefic. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Dear Arun, Thank you so much for your response. I will see if we can perform that puja in one of our temples. We live in Michigan. I will ask one of our bhatji for this homa. Can you send me that mantra or you have mp3 of this mantra. Thank you again. God bless us all Regards, jyotish-vidya: savitarcyber: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:36:14 +0000 Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear all,Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)Ascendent is in moola nakshatra in near exact oncjunction with functional malefic 6th and 11th lord venus who also occupies moola nakshatra. Ths is a strong indication of the disease potential.Vargottama mercury, who is in lagna, has been able to express its bhadaka properties in full because of its reulership of maandi (in virgo). Mercury is the significator of nervous system. Mercury also carries with it its maraka properties (7th lordship), but does not express its kendradhipathi dosa as it is placed in lagna (in bhava chart mercury moves to the 2nd house and therefore may express this dosa to some extend).Now why an expression of this affliction as a neuro muscular disorder?Mars is the natural significator of muscle and it is also the 12th lord. Mars is first in shadbala and also the final significator of all the other planets gaining great strength. Mars is less than 3 deg away from the lagna lord jupiter, who is weakest in shadbala and has been totally overcome by Mars. The 12th house represents decay and waste and the significations of mars (muscle) and jupiter (body(lagna lord), happiness) are wasted away leading to confinment (12th house properties). Together Mercury and Mars have brought about this crippling effect.Taking the moon as the ascendant we find the ascendant being subject to papakartari yoga between saturn, who is debility cancelled, and Rahu occupying his own house of aquarius.In the Navamsa chart the ascendant is along the rahu ketu axis with Venus the 2nd and 7th lord in the lagna. the 12th lord jupiter aspects lagna along with lagna lord (positive factor).Overall, when the lagna is deeply afflicted, Ayus gets limited. Remedy:In such situations, Maha mrityunjaya mantra and, if possible, the maha mrityunjaya homa.regardsarunjyotish-vidya , " prason9 " <prason wrote:>> My friend is diagnosed with Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS,> sometimes called Lou Gehrig's Disease) is a progressive, fatal,> neurodegenerative disease caused by the degeneration of motor neurons.> The disorder causes muscle weakness and stops sending messages to> muscles. Unable to function, the muscles gradually weaken. > > This can cause death in few years.> > Eventually, the brain completely loses its ability to initiate and> control voluntary movement.> > It all started a 6-8 months back with cough and difficulty in talking.> He went to doctor and they did lot of testing.> The test are coming normal but he has symptoms of ALS therefore> doctors are suspecting ALS.> > He has two little children 4 year old and 2 year old. Everybody is> worried for his life.> > We would like to know if he is going to be well or he has limited time> left.> > My friends details> > First Name : ilir > Fathers Name: asqeri > Last Name: malaj> > Birth city: vlore > Country: Albenia> > -------------> Ilir Malaj> Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania> > Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E> -------------> > Please Kindly respond.> > God bless > > Pravin> _______________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM & loc=us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Dear Ravindramani, ///I really appreciate you that you have gathered so much information about the food that the person should consume under such condition./// I actually took the basic Ayurveda course offered by 'Maharishi Ayurved' some years ago now (10 years or more if my memory serves me). That information (on the 3 doshas) has been available on JyotishVidya.com for some time (years) now... http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm PS: have just got back to the house after shopping and am in need of some rest-time before I turn my attention to the observations you've made on the chart :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Monday, September 24, 2007 1:40 PM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mrs. Wendy, I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate you that you have gathered so much information about the food that the person should consume under such condition. I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with 29:48, Mars and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces in the 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This seems to be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information we have on this chart. In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own house promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th reinforce the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th who is the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari yoga is a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with benefic promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord is so placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the Lagna lord treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable position to give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is a blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon occupies the place of its debilitation. As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to 26 years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's closeness and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in 1: 7 axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background of the gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes place normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could have given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo and Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with Lahiri Ayanamsha. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Dear Mr. Ravindramani, Thank you for your response. It is really good to read that he has long life. Here are some more Details about this Person. His real Name: Ilir Malaj Nick Name: Ethan Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E He is Albanian Born who migrated to United States in April 1992 Current Residence: Livonia, Michigan, USA Profession: Auto Mechanic. Self Employed. Has a good Auto Repair Business. Very Honest, Very mild mannered person. Marriage On Papers he got married on April 5th 2001 Actual ceremony of marriage occured on Sept 1st 2002 Wifes Name: Etela Birth Date Nov 20th 1977 Birth Time: 10:30 Bith Place Korca Albenia His Son: Benjamin Born on Dec 29th 2002 His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th 2006 About Me. My Name is Pravin Sonawane. I am originally from Mumbai India. Migrated to USA in 1994. Currently Live in Farmington, Michigan I am Ethans frind for 7 years. Basically I am going to his auto repair shop for last 7 years and that is how we became friends. Please let me know if you need more information. Regards, Pravin jyotish-vidya ravindramani Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:40:39 +0000 Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mrs. Wendy, I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate you that you have gathered so much information about the food that the person should consume under such condition. I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with 29:48, Mars and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces in the 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This seems to be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information we have on this chart. In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own house promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th reinforce the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th who is the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari yoga is a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with benefic promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord is so placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the Lagna lord treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable position to give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is a blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon occupies the place of its debilitation. As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to 26 years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's closeness and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in 1: 7 axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background of the gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes place normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could have given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo and Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with Lahiri Ayanamsha. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Arun, > > ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on > using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)/// > > Using the coordinates provided by Pravin my software gives Scorpio rising > 29:49:04? Perhaps other members can check this. Of course just a small > rectification in birth time could give Sagittarius rising? > > _______________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Dear All, Though with the given time and co-ordinates, we get Sc lagna, I am more inclind to believe that Sg Lagna might be correct based on the details available now. 1. He has migrated to US during Ketu-Venus period. assuming Sc lagna, 12th lord would be Venus and being in Sandhi, I am not sure if it could give a foriegn residence specially when Lagna lord is in lagna. It is much easier to justify this using Sg lagna. 12th lord is Mars/Ketu and lagna lord is in the 12th. 2. Moving lagna to Sg, also move D7 lagna to Sg. The fact that the first child is male and second child is female also fits with this lagna. 3. Transits on the date of marriage ceremony shows that Tr. Sat is in the 7th aspecting the 4th and 9th. Tr. Jupiter is aspecting the 2nd, 4th and 12th. Regards, Krishna --- Pravin Sonawane <prason wrote: > Dear Mr. Ravindramani, > > Thank you for your response. > > It is really good to read that he has long life. > > Here are some more Details about this Person. > > His real Name: Ilir Malaj > > Nick Name: Ethan > > Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania > > Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E > > He is Albanian Born who migrated to United States in April > 1992 > > Current Residence: Livonia, Michigan, USA > > Profession: Auto Mechanic. Self Employed. Has a good Auto > Repair Business. > > Very Honest, Very mild mannered person. > > > Marriage > On Papers he got married on April 5th 2001 > > Actual ceremony of marriage occured on Sept 1st 2002 > > Wifes Name: Etela > Birth Date Nov 20th 1977 > Birth Time: 10:30 > Bith Place Korca Albenia > > His Son: Benjamin Born on Dec 29th 2002 > His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th 2006 > > > About Me. > > My Name is Pravin Sonawane. > > I am originally from Mumbai India. Migrated to USA in 1994. > Currently Live in Farmington, Michigan > > I am Ethans frind for 7 years. Basically I am going to his > auto repair shop for last 7 years and that is how we became > friends. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > > > > Regards, > > Pravin > > > > > jyotish-vidya > ravindramani > Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:40:39 +0000 > Re: Please help - Please help - This > is a very sad situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate > you > > that you have gathered so much information about the food that > the > > person should consume under such condition. > > > > I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with > 29:48, Mars > > and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces > in the > > 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This > seems to > > be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information > we > > have on this chart. > > > > In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own > house > > promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th > reinforce > > the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th > who is > > the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari > yoga is > > a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with > benefic > > promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. > > > > Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord > is so > > placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the > Lagna lord > > treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable > position to > > give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is > a > > blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon > occupies > > the place of its debilitation. > > > > As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to > 26 > > years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's > closeness > > and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in > 1: 7 > > axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background > of the > > gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes > place > > normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could > have > > given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo > and > > Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with > Lahiri > > Ayanamsha. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > > <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun, > > > > > > ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman > ayanamsa, and on > > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Krishna, Ravindramani and All, I thought I might just focus on Scorpio lagna for the time being and to see what support there might be for migration in the period stated (Apr '92). As you say Krishna, the native was undergoing bhukti of 12th lord Venus in dasa of Ketu at that time. Venus, lord of 12th/7th, occupies nakshatra of Ketu who resides in 10th. As we know, 12th indicates travel abroad whilst both 7th and10th are associated with living abroad...taking up residence etc.. [This logic is due to the fact that 7th, being furthest from 1st (birthplace) indicates places far away from the birthplace. Likewise, 10th being furthest from 4th, indicates residing (residence) in foreign lands.] Another indication in this chart is Saturn's placement in 6th. Saturn, owning both 4th and 12th from 4th, occupies nakshatra of 12th lord Venus and aspects 12th for whom he is the natural karaka...he also aspects Sun, natural karaka of lagna who occupies 12th from 4th. Just something to mull over for now perhaps :-) Sorry I don't have a lot of time at the moment to compare the possibilities in both charts or to take a good look at the transits. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:49 AM RE: Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear All, Though with the given time and co-ordinates, we get Sc lagna, I am more inclind to believe that Sg Lagna might be correct based on the details available now. 1. He has migrated to US during Ketu-Venus period. assuming Sc lagna, 12th lord would be Venus and being in Sandhi, I am not sure if it could give a foriegn residence specially when Lagna lord is in lagna. It is much easier to justify this using Sg lagna. 12th lord is Mars/Ketu and lagna lord is in the 12th. 2. Moving lagna to Sg, also move D7 lagna to Sg. The fact that the first child is male and second child is female also fits with this lagna. 3. Transits on the date of marriage ceremony shows that Tr. Sat is in the 7th aspecting the 4th and 9th. Tr. Jupiter is aspecting the 2nd, 4th and 12th. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 use moon chart with combination of varsh chart and prashna chart - ravindramani<ravindramani jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:51 AM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Shri Pravin, It is nice that you are taking pains for your friend and providing his personal info. to the list. Thanks for that. Give me a day. I would go through it. But the data for the daughter is incomplete. Anyways.... let us see to it. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya >, Pravin Sonawane <prason wrote: > > Dear Mr. Ravindramani, > > Thank you for your response. > > It is really good to read that he has long life. > > Here are some more Details about this Person. > > His real Name: Ilir Malaj > > Nick Name: Ethan > > Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania > > Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E > > He is Albanian Born who migrated to United States in April 1992 > > Current Residence: Livonia, Michigan, USA > > Profession: Auto Mechanic. Self Employed. Has a good Auto Repair Business. > > Very Honest, Very mild mannered person. > > > Marriage > On Papers he got married on April 5th 2001 > > Actual ceremony of marriage occured on Sept 1st 2002 > > Wifes Name: Etela > Birth Date Nov 20th 1977 > Birth Time: 10:30 > Bith Place Korca Albenia > > His Son: Benjamin Born on Dec 29th 2002 > His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th 2006 > > > About Me. > > My Name is Pravin Sonawane. > > I am originally from Mumbai India. Migrated to USA in 1994. > Currently Live in Farmington, Michigan > > I am Ethans frind for 7 years. Basically I am going to his auto repair shop for last 7 years and that is how we became friends. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > > > > Regards, > > Pravin > > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > ravindramani > Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:40:39 +0000 > Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate you > > that you have gathered so much information about the food that the > > person should consume under such condition. > > > > I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with 29:48, Mars > > and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces in the > > 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This seems to > > be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information we > > have on this chart. > > > > In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own house > > promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th reinforce > > the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th who is > > the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari yoga is > > a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with benefic > > promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. > > > > Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord is so > > placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the Lagna lord > > treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable position to > > give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is a > > blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon occupies > > the place of its debilitation. > > > > As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to 26 > > years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's closeness > > and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in 1: 7 > > axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background of the > > gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes place > > normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could have > > given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo and > > Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with Lahiri > > Ayanamsha. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > --- In jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, " Wendy Vasicek " > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun, > > > > > > ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on > > > using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)/// > > > > > > Using the coordinates provided by Pravin my software gives Scorpio > > rising > > > 29:49:04? Perhaps other members can check this. Of course just a > > small > > > rectification in birth time could give Sagittarius rising? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline<http://www.cafemesseng\ er.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Jiger, When birth time is not known (and) providing Moon doesn't change signs within the 24hr period, then Moon chart is an alternative. However, it's good to gain some experience in rectification. Twice recently we've had the opportunity to look at charts where lagna could possibly be one of two signs. It would be a pity to waste such opportunities when they come along, don't you agree :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " jiger shah " <jigershah <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:08 PM Re: Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation use moon chart with combination of varsh chart and prashna chart - ravindramani<ravindramani jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:51 AM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Shri Pravin, It is nice that you are taking pains for your friend and providing his personal info. to the list. Thanks for that. Give me a day. I would go through it. But the data for the daughter is incomplete. Anyways.... let us see to it. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani --- In jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya >, Pravin Sonawane <prason wrote: > > Dear Mr. Ravindramani, > > Thank you for your response. > > It is really good to read that he has long life. > > Here are some more Details about this Person. > > His real Name: Ilir Malaj > > Nick Name: Ethan > > Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania > > Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E > > He is Albanian Born who migrated to United States in April 1992 > > Current Residence: Livonia, Michigan, USA > > Profession: Auto Mechanic. Self Employed. Has a good Auto Repair Business. > > Very Honest, Very mild mannered person. > > > Marriage > On Papers he got married on April 5th 2001 > > Actual ceremony of marriage occured on Sept 1st 2002 > > Wifes Name: Etela > Birth Date Nov 20th 1977 > Birth Time: 10:30 > Bith Place Korca Albenia > > His Son: Benjamin Born on Dec 29th 2002 > His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th 2006 > > > About Me. > > My Name is Pravin Sonawane. > > I am originally from Mumbai India. Migrated to USA in 1994. > Currently Live in Farmington, Michigan > > I am Ethans frind for 7 years. Basically I am going to his auto repair shop for last 7 years and that is how we became friends. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > > > > Regards, > > Pravin > > > > > To: jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > ravindramani > Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:40:39 +0000 > Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate you > > that you have gathered so much information about the food that the > > person should consume under such condition. > > > > I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with 29:48, Mars > > and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces in the > > 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This seems to > > be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information we > > have on this chart. > > > > In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own house > > promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th reinforce > > the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th who is > > the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari yoga is > > a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with benefic > > promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. > > > > Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord is so > > placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the Lagna lord > > treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable position to > > give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is a > > blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon occupies > > the place of its debilitation. > > > > As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to 26 > > years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's closeness > > and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in 1: 7 > > axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background of the > > gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes place > > normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could have > > given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo and > > Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with Lahiri > > Ayanamsha. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > --- In jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, " Wendy Vasicek " > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun, > > > > > > ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on > > > using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)/// > > > > > > Using the coordinates provided by Pravin my software gives Scorpio > > rising > > > 29:49:04? Perhaps other members can check this. Of course just a > > small > > > rectification in birth time could give Sagittarius rising? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline<http://www.cafemesseng\ er.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sir, Thank you again. It is just so depressing. I also trying to find some Aurvedic medicine for him. Mrs. Wendy gave me a list of food which I have given him already. My sincere thanks to everybody who is discussing this situation with you. Please let me know what the conclusion is. I hope he survives this dangerous disease. God bless .... miracles do happen. His wifes said yesterday that it is fine even he is not able to talk in future but at least he should survive and live with his family. here is the info you wanted. His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th Feb 2006 God bless... Pravin jyotish-vidya ravindramani Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:51:30 +0000 Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Shri Pravin, It is nice that you are taking pains for your friend and providing his personal info. to the list. Thanks for that. Give me a day. I would go through it. But the data for the daughter is incomplete. Anyways.... let us see to it. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , Pravin Sonawane <prason wrote: > > Dear Mr. Ravindramani, > > Thank you for your response. > > It is really good to read that he has long life. > > Here are some more Details about this Person. > > His real Name: Ilir Malaj > > Nick Name: Ethan > > Male, born on Sunday, 1971-01-31 04:00:00 at Vlore, Albania > > Latitude: 040:27:N / Longitude: 019:30:E > > He is Albanian Born who migrated to United States in April 1992 > > Current Residence: Livonia, Michigan, USA > > Profession: Auto Mechanic. Self Employed. Has a good Auto Repair Business. > > Very Honest, Very mild mannered person. > > > Marriage > On Papers he got married on April 5th 2001 > > Actual ceremony of marriage occured on Sept 1st 2002 > > Wifes Name: Etela > Birth Date Nov 20th 1977 > Birth Time: 10:30 > Bith Place Korca Albenia > > His Son: Benjamin Born on Dec 29th 2002 > His Daughter: Born on Laura 17th 2006 > > > About Me. > > My Name is Pravin Sonawane. > > I am originally from Mumbai India. Migrated to USA in 1994. > Currently Live in Farmington, Michigan > > I am Ethans frind for 7 years. Basically I am going to his auto repair shop for last 7 years and that is how we became friends. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > > > > Regards, > > Pravin > > > > > jyotish-vidya > ravindramani > Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:40:39 +0000 > Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > I was away for some time from my station. I really appreciate you > > that you have gathered so much information about the food that the > > person should consume under such condition. > > > > I just cast the chart. The chart is, Scorpio rising with 29:48, Mars > > and Jupiter located in Ascendant. Moon is located in Pisces in the > > 5th house with 14:40 and that gives Pisces Navamsa. This seems to > > be tentatively O.K. in relation to the very little information we > > have on this chart. > > > > In my view, as a cursory glance, Mercury aspecting his own house > > promises longevity. Mars, the Asc. Lord aspects the 8th reinforce > > the same. Further, the Saturn, from sixth aspects the 8th who is > > the singificator for longevity. The Moon under papakartari yoga is > > a concern whereas Venus the 8th lord moving to a Kendra with benefic > > promises longevity. The angles become neat and clean. > > > > Jupiter is waging a lone battle from the Lagna. The 5th lord is so > > placed that he is treating the Mars as his neutral and the Lagna lord > > treats him as his neutral, and thus not in a comfortable position to > > give much relief. Saturn the 3rd Lord debilitated in 6th is a > > blessing in disguise. In Navamsa he is exalted. The Moon occupies > > the place of its debilitation. > > > > As this gentleman could have married around the age of 25 to 26 > > years, no affliction to 2nd and the 2nd lord, 2nd lord's closeness > > and his position with Lagna lord in lagna, and no malefics in 1: 7 > > axis in Navamsa, supports this. ( I don't know the background of the > > gentleman and the customs of Albania, how soon marriage takes place > > normally in that cournty.) Venus the 7th lord of Rasi, could have > > given the marriage and children in the directions of (Venus/Mo and > > Venus/Rahu), thus justify tentatively, Scorpio the lagna with Lahiri > > Ayanamsha. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun, > > > > > > ///Lagna Analysis: (sagittarius - when taking raman ayanamsa, and on > > > using lahiri get the lagna to be 0deg 2' in sagittarius)/// > > > > > > Using the coordinates provided by Pravin my software gives Scorpio > > rising > > > 29:49:04? Perhaps other members can check this. Of course just a > > small > > > rectification in birth time could give Sagittarius rising? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Ravindramani, ///How do you justify there are two occasions of marriage with the same person? He married the same woman twice. Once through papers - must have adopted some legal method and through a ceremony- a stamp of approval.... Jupiter's role of tradition and sanctity.... It could be justified through Scorpio./// I think first it's necessary to establish the significance of the first marriage (on paper). I'm assuming this was the official marriage? It's important to know this as the second (ceremony) then becomes more of an auspicious event rather than the legal marriage. If I'm not mistaken auspicious events (in general) can be seen from 11th house. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:06 PM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mrs. Wendy, This is a typical chart. It is difficult, at least for me, to fix the lagna of this gentleman, so easily? It is not an easy job. There are number of other factors are to be considered. At the moment, I do prefer to stick with Scorpio. How do you justify there are two occasions of marriage with the same person? He married the same woman twice. Once through papers - must have adopted some legal method and through a ceremony- a stamp of approval.... Jupiter's role of tradition and sanctity.... It could be justified through Scorpio. What about the " Very honest " and " Very mild mannered person " ? I can explain it very easily with Scorpio. One should clearly see the date of marriage and the child birth. As per the dates given, the child must have conceived prior to the marriage and then the marriage ceremony took place. A clear stamp of approval wanted by the parents of the child, before the child is born. The D-9 and D-7 should show all this... Automobile and auto repair business should be justified..this could be seen from Scorpio clearly. I wish to see the chart of his spouse too before coming to a decision. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Arun, Ravindramani and All, To the best of my knowledge only the physical planets are considered in these types of yogas - nodes being excluded, as we see in the Lunar Yogas; Sunapha, Anapha and Durudhura. There is no reference in any treatise (that I know of) that considers the nodes in any of these yogas, nor is there any reference to the so-called KalaSarpa Yoga to be found in the original treatises which tell us unequivocally that the nodes influence, confined to the house they occupy, manifests through their dispositor. The sages teach us that, having no physical properties of their own, they are unable to act independently. The only yoga assigned to the nodes is through conjunction i.e., when either placed in a trine conjunct a kendra lord or placed in a kendra conjunct a trinal lord. What we do find in this particular chart is the presence of Sunapha yoga with Saturn in 2nd from Moon. One result of this yoga is that the native will earn wealth by his own efforts (self-earned wealth). It's said that if Saturn occupies 2nd from Moon the native will be skilful, brave, devoted to his work and well liked by those around him.(Saravali). Naturally Saturn's ability to deliver maximum results in regards to these matters (including longevity) needs to be considered in light of his strength/dignity. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " arun " <savitarcyber <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:19 AM Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mr. Ravindramani, You pointed out that the moon is in papakartari yoga, but as per Sarvarthachintamani, translated by Surya Narayana Rao, a planet is in papakartari yoga only if the planets that are causing it are within a radius of 30 degrees from the planet that is afflicted. Here both Saturn and Rahu are beyong the 30 degree radius. But the house (pisces) is being subject to papkartari yoga. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Mr. Ravindramani, What is the conclusion of these planetory position. Is he going to get well and be with his family? Regards, Pravin jyotish-vidya ravindramani Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:40:44 +0000 Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mrs. Wendy, >>>To the best of my knowledge only the physical planets are considered in these types of yogas - nodes being excluded, as we see in the Lunar Yogas;Sunapha, Anapha and Durudhura. There is no reference in any treatise (that Iknow of) that considers the nodes in any of these yogas, nor is there any reference to the so-called KalaSarpa Yoga to be found in the original treatises which tell us unequivocally that the nodes influence, confined to the house they occupy, manifests through their dispositor. The sages teach us that, having no physical properties of their own, they are unable to act independently. The only yoga assigned to the nodes is through conjunction i.e., when either placed in a trine conjunct a kendra lord or placed in a kendra conjunct a trinal lord.>>> You are cent percent correct. No problems whatsoever. The person concerned is running VE/RA/MO. The placement of Rahu in the 12th house from Moon has a definite meaning and it has to manifest in the appropriate period. So is the case with Saturn who is placed from the Moon in the second house. Rahu and Ketu are not planets; they are nodes; they have no material existence; still we are instructed to treat them as planets for the purpose of astrology. Rahu and Ketu have been assigned certain specific significations as that of other planets. They are governed by certain special rules for certain purposes. Rahu and Ketu are no exception to the general rules of astrology, my commonsense says so. When treating the Moon as Lagna, Rahu is located in 12th house of death. Rahu stands for " fear " . From the Moon, the karaka for mind, as the reference point, this means " it is the fear of death " . It is what the individual is experiencing. When treating the Moon as Lagna, Saturn is located in the 2nd the marakasthana from where it aspects the 8th house of death. Saturn is the 12th lord from Moon. Saturn is dispositing Rahu who stands for " fear " . Now this Saturn is giving the result, the " fear of death, via Rahu. That is the nature of Rahu which is classified as a shadowy planet. See this from another angle. Rahu, the element of fear is in the fourth house of Mind. His house Lord Saturn, the mind and worry, is in the 6th house of struggle, the Saturn aspects the 12th house of death, connecting the 8th from Lagna. See the connection of 6th, 8th, 12th and the 3rd. The so vulnerable and impressionable Moon is in the emotional Pieces between these malefics. (The Moon is yet to cross the boundary of 72 degrees. – The mind is so impressionable and susceptible in this chart - the 5th lord Jupiter is neutral to Mars. Mars is owing 6th too. 6th lord Mars aspects the Rahu which is in 4th.) Now the fact of the matter is that Rahu is in the 12th from Moon. Moon stands for Mind. Rahu stands for fear and 12th house stands for death. Rahu is to give the result in its dasha. This clearly falls under the purview of astrological rules. I understand astrology in this way. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani _______________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mkt=\ en-us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Pravin, As we've advised you, your friend's horoscope does show the POSSIBILITY of motor neurone disease. This means that we've come to a similar conclusion as his medical doctors and, as I'm sure you know, there is no known cure for this disease. In the majority of cases MND proves fatal within 2-5 yrs with 50% dying within 14 mths of diagnosis. However, there are exceptions; for instance the well-known physicist Stephen Hawking has lived with this disease for 40 yrs. Unfortunately the immediate future is rather difficult for your friend due to his operating dasa periods and current transits i.e., SA/KE transiting natal Ketu, lagnesh Mars transiting 8th etc.. You Wrote Earlier: ///The strange thing about all of this is all the test like cat scan, MRI are normal. Doctors can not firmly say that it is ALS. It is just based on the symptoms that they are concluding that it is ALS./// Unfortunately this disease is difficult to diagnose as there is no specific test to confirm MDS. Diagnosis is usually made after tests for other conditions (that can mimic MDS) have all produced negative results - it's a process of elimination! The best advice I can give for your friend is to adopt whatever measures he can to pacify Vata by following a vata pacifying diet, using vata churna (spices), drinking vata tea, burning vata essential oil etc.. It's important to bear in mind that vata's most important function is to control the central nervous system and that Saturn, Rahu and Ketu all come under the influence of this dosha. Another very effective practice is to listen to gandharva ved whenever possible. This has the effect of balancing all the doshas...see article below: **Music that Connects You with Nature A breath-taking sunset, a panoramic mountain view or a waterfall in the woods can fill you with wonder and joy. The melodies of Gandharva Veda mirror this experience. If you could hear the frequencies of Nature, you would hear the sounds of Gandharva Veda music. Each of these melodies (Ragas) traces the vibrations and pattern of a particular time of day. When you play a melody during the specified time period, it creates a natural balance and harmony in your awareness and in the environment, and through the particular quality (Rasa) of each Raga, characteristics such as greater courage, self-confidence, wisdom, and happiness are enlivened. History of this Music Thousands of years ago in India, great Rishis or sages cognized within their own consciousness the subtle rhythms and enlightening melodies of the Veda, which is pure knowledge at the basis of Nature. As a part of the Veda, Gandharva Veda is the tradition of musical performance that replicates the vibrations of Nature at different times of day and night. Now, Maharishi has revived this eternal music of Nature and inspired the most renowned musicians of India to bless the world with Maharishi Gandharva Veda music. By playing this music you join in creating greater peace, harmony and joy for yourself, your dear ones and the world.** PS: I would certainly recommend that he consult a reputable vaidya (Ayurvedic doctor)... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Pravin Sonawane " <prason <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:46 PM RE: Re: Please help - Please help - This is a very sad situation Dear Mr. Ravindramani, What is the conclusion of these planetory position. Is he going to get well and be with his family? Regards, Pravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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