Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 kAMAL, WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both houses when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback -a abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural karaka sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a neecha sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the final picture and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good relationships with cousins, pets etc. on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship falls first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and reverse for tula to Meena. say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th lord 1st then 8th lord Best wishes On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Astrologers > > I have a chart with Virgo lagna now my problems are > > Saturn is Lord of 5th (good) and 6th (bad) what should I call it. > Now this Saturn sits in Aries 8th house being Lords of 6th in 8th should > make it vipreet raj yoga. Unfortunately this debilitated position for it. > Now I look at Navamsa and find Saturn is again in Aries ( vargottama) but > still. debilitated. > > I am feeling quite lost please enlighten me > > thanks > > kamal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Dear Ravi Jee and Astrdesk, Many thanks. I had asked this question not with so many hidden problem one can get in checking horoscope. This brings two questions one from the first mail. Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised like VRY Second I have another horoscope with Li lagna where Jupiter is lord of 3rd (MT) and 6th ( own house). Does this makes Jupiter immune to be functional malefic. The problem get compounded by the occupancy of Jupiter in 3rd(Sg). And this Jupiter is exalted in Navamsa. please enlighten or give me some literarature to clear doubts at the times of contentions. perhaps other seniors members can shed some light sincerely kamal - astro desk jyotish-vidya Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:46 PM Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 kAMAL, WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both houses when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback -a abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural karaka sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a neecha sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the final picture and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good relationships with cousins, pets etc. on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship falls first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and reverse for tula to Meena. say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th lord 1st then 8th lord Best wishes On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Astrologers > > I have a chart with Virgo lagna now my problems are > > Saturn is Lord of 5th (good) and 6th (bad) what should I call it. > Now this Saturn sits in Aries 8th house being Lords of 6th in 8th should > make it vipreet raj yoga. Unfortunately this debilitated position for it. > Now I look at Navamsa and find Saturn is again in Aries ( vargottama) but > still. debilitated. > > I am feeling quite lost please enlighten me > > thanks > > kamal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Kamal the 1st case itself is too much and then the 2nd to answer without birth data we need to study other factors that can negate a Neecha status so more with data best wiishes On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Ravi Jee and Astrdesk, > > Many thanks. I had asked this question not with so many hidden problem one > can get in checking horoscope. This brings two questions one from the first > mail. Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised like > VRY > > Second I have another horoscope with Li lagna where Jupiter is lord of 3rd > (MT) and 6th ( own house). Does this makes Jupiter immune to be functional > malefic. The problem get compounded by the occupancy of Jupiter in 3rd(Sg). > And this Jupiter is exalted in Navamsa. > > please enlighten or give me some literarature to clear doubts at the times > of contentions. > > perhaps other seniors members can shed some light > > sincerely > > kamal > > - > astro desk > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:46 PM > Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 > > kAMAL, > > WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both > houses > when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback -a > abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation > transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural karaka > sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a neecha > sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the > final picture > > and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps > competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good > relationships > with cousins, pets etc. > > on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi > > that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship falls > first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and reverse > for tula to Meena. > > say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th > lord > 1st then 8th lord > > Best wishes > > On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions<sightsolutions%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > > I have a chart with Virgo lagna now my problems are > > > > Saturn is Lord of 5th (good) and 6th (bad) what should I call it. > > Now this Saturn sits in Aries 8th house being Lords of 6th in 8th should > > make it vipreet raj yoga. Unfortunately this debilitated position for > it. > > Now I look at Navamsa and find Saturn is again in Aries ( vargottama) > but > > still. debilitated. > > > > I am feeling quite lost please enlighten me > > > > thanks > > > > kamal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Dear Prashant, here is details of two poeple. I do not need any reading please explain me the significance and expected behaviours of planets in these cases if possible especially Saturn in first case and Jupiter in second case female 31st March 1969 1750 Miri Sarawak Malaysia male 8th april 1960 2017 Karnal Harayana India sincerely kamal many thanks astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: Kamal the 1st case itself is too much and then the 2nd to answer without birth data we need to study other factors that can negate a Neecha status so more with data best wiishes On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Ravi Jee and Astrdesk, > > Many thanks. I had asked this question not with so many hidden problem one > can get in checking horoscope. This brings two questions one from the first > mail. Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised like > VRY > > Second I have another horoscope with Li lagna where Jupiter is lord of 3rd > (MT) and 6th ( own house). Does this makes Jupiter immune to be functional > malefic. The problem get compounded by the occupancy of Jupiter in 3rd(Sg). > And this Jupiter is exalted in Navamsa. > > please enlighten or give me some literarature to clear doubts at the times > of contentions. > > perhaps other seniors members can shed some light > > sincerely > > kamal > > - > astro desk > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:46 PM > Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 > > kAMAL, > > WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both > houses > when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback -a > abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation > transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural karaka > sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a neecha > sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the > final picture > > and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps > competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good > relationships > with cousins, pets etc. > > on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi > > that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship falls > first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and reverse > for tula to Meena. > > say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th > lord > 1st then 8th lord > > Best wishes > > On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions<sightsolutions%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > > I have a chart with Virgo lagna now my problems are > > > > Saturn is Lord of 5th (good) and 6th (bad) what should I call it. > > Now this Saturn sits in Aries 8th house being Lords of 6th in 8th should > > make it vipreet raj yoga. Unfortunately this debilitated position for > it. > > Now I look at Navamsa and find Saturn is again in Aries ( vargottama) > but > > still. debilitated. > > > > I am feeling quite lost please enlighten me > > > > thanks > > > > kamal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Kamal in whatver u want to interpret u need to havea Operative period-dasa running ur gudu dasa starts on 3/3/2017 for 16 yrs and as he is in Moola-ketu's star in the 6th can give some health issues apart from good over draft facilities. success over competitiors etc gURU'S POSITION W.R.T 3,6 HOUSES get enhanced by its being in MT and also exalted D0 is not part ofa VRY. on the 2ND ONE 17/7/08 TO 24/05/11 IN RAH-SANI will give u a hint of its results NBRY here as it gets neecha bhanga due to being in Kendra to Sukra whose sing it is Uccha so sani periods will be good more in Sukra sub-subs periods sani in Ketu's star in D1, D9 so physical wellness may be problem but good expenses on it will be there. I USE RAMAN's ayanamsa-dasa, dates, vargas will change best wishes On 9/30/07, KAMAL SAHNI <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > here is details of two poeple. I do not need any reading please explain me > the significance and expected behaviours of planets in these cases if > possible especially Saturn in first case and Jupiter in second case > > female > 31st March 1969 > 1750 Miri Sarawak Malaysia > > male > 8th april 1960 > 2017 > Karnal Harayana India > > > sincerely > > kamal > many thanks > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > Kamal > > the 1st case itself is too much and then the 2nd to answer without birth > data we need to study other factors that can negate a Neecha status so > more > with data > > best wiishes > > On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions<sightsolutions%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > > Dear Ravi Jee and Astrdesk, > > > > Many thanks. I had asked this question not with so many hidden problem > one > > can get in checking horoscope. This brings two questions one from the > first > > mail. Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised > like > > VRY > > > > Second I have another horoscope with Li lagna where Jupiter is lord of > 3rd > > (MT) and 6th ( own house). Does this makes Jupiter immune to be > functional > > malefic. The problem get compounded by the occupancy of Jupiter in > 3rd(Sg). > > And this Jupiter is exalted in Navamsa. > > > > please enlighten or give me some literarature to clear doubts at the > times > > of contentions. > > > > perhaps other seniors members can shed some light > > > > sincerely > > > > kamal > > > > - > > astro desk > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%40> > > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 > > > > kAMAL, > > > > WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both > > houses > > when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback > -a > > abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation > > transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural > karaka > > sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a > neecha > > sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the > > final picture > > > > and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps > > competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good > > relationships > > with cousins, pets etc. > > > > on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi > > > > that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship > falls > > first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and > reverse > > for tula to Meena. > > > > say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th > > lord > > 1st then 8th lord > > > > Best wishes > > > > On 9/30/07, Sight>solutions <sightsolutions<sightsolutions%40.co.uk> > <sightsolutions%40.co.uk>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > > > > I have a chart with Virgo lagna now my problems are > > > > > > Saturn is Lord of 5th (good) and 6th (bad) what should I call it. > > > Now this Saturn sits in Aries 8th house being Lords of 6th in 8th > should > > > make it vipreet raj yoga. Unfortunately this debilitated position for > > it. > > > Now I look at Navamsa and find Saturn is again in Aries ( vargottama) > > but > > > still. debilitated. > > > > > > I am feeling quite lost please enlighten me > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Dear Prashant, ///on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi/// I'm aware of the different spelling i.e., Prakruthi (Prakriti, Prikriti) and Vikruthi (Vikriti etc), dependent perhaps on different regions? However, to the best of my knowledge, this refers to; a) Innate nature/Constitutional body type = Prikriti b) Current state/Imbalance = Vrikriti I'm interested to know in what context you're referring to these in your reference (below)? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:46 PM Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 kAMAL, WELL TO some extent ravi has given u a clue how to read it w.r.t both houses when reading it as 5th lord uc an see its 8th location being a drawback -a abortion, misscarriage is possible a bad investment, or speculation transaction or two, slow in decession making, head aches as natural karaka sign for head related disorders and also bones will be beak with a neecha sani, but where is Sun and Mars w.r.t to it can make a difference to the final picture and here as 6th lord sure a good sign as said by ravi good VRY and helps competition success and OD facilities or credit ratings. good relationships with cousins, pets etc. on how to read them there is a rule callrd Prakruthi, and Vikruthi that is from Mesha to Kanya and Tula to Meena which ever ruler ship falls first is covered in first part of the dasa for MEsha to kanya and reverse for tula to Meena. say Vrischika Lagna Budha if he is in Dhanus will give results of 11th lord 1st then 8th lord Best wishes -- Thank you, Prashantkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Kamal, you wrote: ///Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised like VRY/// NO, It does not! This question was answered for you in an earlier mail, see below. earlier mail: ///If, on the other hand, a debilitated planet is vargottama, it will in fact be doubly afflicted...offering no respite due to favourable navamsha position./// Of course the influence of other planets (star lord, aspects/conjunction etc) will have a say on how Saturn manifests at (any) particular time; considering (also) sub-dasas, transits etc.. The fact is that favourable circumstances can arise even during the dasa of the most afflicted planet, and likewise, unfavourable circumstances can arise during the dasa of the very best planet. It's misleading to judge the outcome based simply on a single planet's position in rasi. We need to consider also the significations of the planets themselves and their relationship with one another; whether it be friendly, inimical or neutral. There are other divisionals to consider also. For instance, even though there may be some difficulties in certain areas of life, other areas (of life) might be more favourable (lending support to the native). The most important thing to remember, as both Prashant and Bhaskar have pointed out, is that no planet is ever all bad or all good. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sight>solutions " <sightsolutions <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:00 PM Re: HUMBLE REQUEST- 30/9 Dear Ravi Jee and Astrdesk, Many thanks. I had asked this question not with so many hidden problem one can get in checking horoscope. This brings two questions one from the first mail. Does debilitated Saturn in both rashi and Navamsa get neutralised like VRY Second I have another horoscope with Li lagna where Jupiter is lord of 3rd (MT) and 6th ( own house). Does this makes Jupiter immune to be functional malefic. The problem get compounded by the occupancy of Jupiter in 3rd(Sg). And this Jupiter is exalted in Navamsa. please enlighten or give me some literarature to clear doubts at the times of contentions. perhaps other seniors members can shed some light sincerely kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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