Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dear Manasa, I've made a file (photos section) for Leo and added a photo of Yogananda. I've cast the chart for Muhammad Ali and come up with Cancer lagna? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:23 AM Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Vic/ Group, Physical Traits of Simha (leo) lagna as per parashara: Simha lagna has well developed bones & a broad forehead. He is of moderate stature, well built & muscular. His appearance is dignified, imposing & commanding. Astro Data 1 Muhammed Ali January 17,1942 18:35, Louisville, Kentucky, USA. Deviation from the above description only with regard to the height. Ali is 6ft 3 " . I believe Rahu's influence on the lagna caused it. Astro Data 2 Yogananda Paramahamsa January 5, 1893 20:25, Gorakhpur, India. Deviation from the above description only with regards to the influence of moon on the lagna, giving him a softer look and yellow tone to the skin. P.S - I have taken both datas from astrodatabank. Couldn't upload any photos; I believe both persons are known to all. Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dear Manasa, Thanks so much - i will give mine (Gemini) on monday! - Vic On Jun 27, 2008, at 4:23 PM, m2sangeeth wrote: > Dear Vic/ Group, > > Physical Traits of Simha (leo) lagna as per parashara: > > Simha lagna has well developed bones & a broad forehead. He is of > moderate stature, well built & muscular. His appearance is dignified, > imposing & commanding. > > Astro Data 1 > > Muhammed Ali > January 17,1942 > 18:35, Louisville, Kentucky, USA. > > Deviation from the above description only with regard to the height. > Ali is 6ft 3 " . I believe Rahu's influence on the lagna caused it. > > Astro Data 2 > > Yogananda Paramahamsa > January 5, 1893 > 20:25, Gorakhpur, India. > > Deviation from the above description only with regards to the > influence of moon on the lagna, giving him a softer look and yellow > tone to the skin. > > P.S - I have taken both datas from astrodatabank. Couldn't upload any > photos; I believe both persons are known to all. > > Regards, > Manasa. > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, The timezone has to be adjusted to GMT -8hrs.Then you would get leo rising for Ali. Thanks for uploading yogananda swami's photo :-) Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dear Manasa, The time given by AstroDatabank is undoubtedly 18:35 at Louisville, KY. P.L. automatically makes the necessary adjustments for timezone etc.. I actually clicked on the option to cast the chart straight from my AstroDatabank program. Perhaps other members can check this for us just to make sure :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:06 PM Re: Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Mrs. Wendy, The timezone has to be adjusted to GMT -8hrs.Then you would get leo rising for Ali. Thanks for uploading yogananda swami's photo :-) Regards, Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Members, For the chart of Mohammad Ali, Cancer rising with 26 degrees 28 minutes and 39 seconds. Moon in Capricorn with 19 degrees 23 minutes and 8 seconds. Universal Time GMT = 18th January 0035 hours. (Original TOB being 1635 hours 17th January 1942 ) Sidereal time being 2:39:06 hours. Hence time zone 6 hours west and No DST for that date i.e. 17th January 1942) Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================================================ jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Manasa, > > The time given by AstroDatabank is undoubtedly 18:35 at Louisville, KY. > P.L. automatically makes the necessary adjustments for timezone etc.. I > actually clicked on the option to cast the chart straight from my > AstroDatabank program. > > Perhaps other members can check this for us just to make sure :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:06 PM > Re: Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > The timezone has to be adjusted to GMT -8hrs.Then you would get > leo rising for Ali. Thanks for uploading yogananda swami's photo :-) > > Regards, > Manasa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Manasa, Perhaps his height might be explained by: 1) Saturn aspecting both lagna lord and lagna karaka (and) 2) Final dispositor Mars conjunct Saturn and aspecting lagna. What do you think? No doubt Mars gave him his tremendous ability in the boxing ring. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:23 AM Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Vic/ Group, Physical Traits of Simha (leo) lagna as per parashara: Simha lagna has well developed bones & a broad forehead. He is of moderate stature, well built & muscular. His appearance is dignified, imposing & commanding. Astro Data 1 Muhammed Ali January 17,1942 18:35, Louisville, Kentucky, USA. Deviation from the above description only with regard to the height. Ali is 6ft 3 " . I believe Rahu's influence on the lagna caused it. Astro Data 2 Yogananda Paramahamsa January 5, 1893 20:25, Gorakhpur, India. Deviation from the above description only with regards to the influence of moon on the lagna, giving him a softer look and yellow tone to the skin. P.S - I have taken both datas from astrodatabank. Couldn't upload any photos; I believe both persons are known to all. Regards, Manasa. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3224 (20080627) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Hope, you may not mind, posting my views on the chart. Moon is apparently weak and in Krishna paksha, but is well associated with three planets and receives the aspects of both Saturn and Jupiter. The third lord of Mercury (valour/courage/self efforts) has the same associations and aspects. The third lord in 7th, Ali was unhappy in his childhood. The placement of Mars (karaka for courage/valour/efforts is excellent in his MT and with digbala, with the 7th lord of public image. With respect to graha bala, Mars is the strongest planet The Sun, who disposits Rahu, in the 7th house of public image, having good graha bala. The second half of the Rahu dasha, Ali started knowing the taste of great success. Dasha of planets connected to 7th house known for public life. He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. We know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts). Rahu in 2nd, and the aspect of Saturn over Sun explains the wild talks of Ali. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Manasa, > > Perhaps his height might be explained by: > 1) Saturn aspecting both lagna lord and lagna karaka (and) > 2) Final dispositor Mars conjunct Saturn and aspecting lagna. > > What do you think? No doubt Mars gave him his tremendous ability in the > boxing ring. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, Your input is much appreciated :-) You Wrote: //He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. We know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts).// What I find interesting here with Jupiter in sign of exaltation in D10 (great successes) is Jupiter's lordship (Rasi) of 6th house...showing our competitors & rivals and consequently our ability to rise above them. If I'm not mistaken his phenomenal record of being virtually impossible to beat began during Rahu dasa. Note Rahu in D10 in sign of Jupiter who (as said) is exalted in this chart. Mars is debilitated in D10 in sign of Moon who is disposited (in Rasi) by debilitated F/M Saturn. This Saturn, conjunct 10th lord Mars (in 10th), speaks surely of the ups and downs he experienced in his career. What do you think? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:18 PM Re: Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Mrs. Wendy, Hope, you may not mind, posting my views on the chart. Moon is apparently weak and in Krishna paksha, but is well associated with three planets and receives the aspects of both Saturn and Jupiter. The third lord of Mercury (valour/courage/self efforts) has the same associations and aspects. The third lord in 7th, Ali was unhappy in his childhood. The placement of Mars (karaka for courage/valour/efforts is excellent in his MT and with digbala, with the 7th lord of public image. With respect to graha bala, Mars is the strongest planet The Sun, who disposits Rahu, in the 7th house of public image, having good graha bala. The second half of the Rahu dasha, Ali started knowing the taste of great success. Dasha of planets connected to 7th house known for public life. He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. We know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts). Rahu in 2nd, and the aspect of Saturn over Sun explains the wild talks of Ali. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Yes. I agree. In any chart, the quality/strength of the lagna lord decides the ability to work hard and enjoy success. The strength of the 5th lord shows the merits of the past life or the lives. Here Mars powerfully aspects (special) the lagna. The connection between the lagna and the merit of the past life is established from the house of activities. This indicates the trait of success and ups in life. The very planet promises the downs in a subtle manner. Mars is placed in the constellation of Ketu who is in the 8th house of secrets and set backs. 8th lord Saturn moves to 10th. This reinforces the same indication. This pattern repeats every where. Note this from Moon. Notice this in D-10. (connection between the 10th and the trika houses/house lords.) Sun the 10th lord goes to 12th and influenced by 6th lord Mars in D-10. But this grouping is influenced by the lord 3rd Saturn who is in his own house of self efforts. Ali became invincible, not of publicity or media but because of his struggles and efforts. In this Jupiter plays the main role. Jupiter is the 5th lord of merits of past lives who from the 9th house of luck, connects the Lagna, the third and the Fifth. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Your input is much appreciated :-) > > You Wrote: > //He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the > 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. We> know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the > dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts).// > > What I find interesting here with Jupiter in sign of exaltation in D10 > (great successes) is Jupiter's lordship (Rasi) of 6th house...showing our > competitors & rivals and consequently our ability to rise above them. If > I'm not mistaken his phenomenal record of being virtually impossible to > beat began during Rahu dasa. Note Rahu in D10 in sign of Jupiter who (as > said) is exalted in this chart. > > Mars is debilitated in D10 in sign of Moon who is disposited (in Rasi) by > debilitated F/M Saturn. This Saturn, conjunct 10th lord Mars (in 10th), > speaks surely of the ups and downs he experienced in his career. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hi Ravindramani what about saturn® being debiliated in 10th house? Will that not have a -ve effect on career or does it gets a strong nich-bhag? Om Namah Shivay Rajeev On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Yes. I agree. > > In any chart, the quality/strength of the lagna lord decides the > ability to work hard and enjoy success. The strength of the 5th lord > shows the merits of the past life or the lives. Here Mars powerfully > aspects (special) the lagna. The connection between the lagna and the > merit of the past life is established from the house of activities. > This indicates the trait of success and ups in life. The very planet > promises the downs in a subtle manner. Mars is placed in the > constellation of Ketu who is in the 8th house of secrets and set > backs. 8th lord Saturn moves to 10th. This reinforces the same > indication. > > This pattern repeats every where. Note this from Moon. Notice this > in D-10. (connection between the 10th and the trika houses/house > lords.) Sun the 10th lord goes to 12th and influenced by 6th lord > Mars in D-10. But this grouping is influenced by the lord 3rd Saturn > who is in his own house of self efforts. Ali became invincible, not > of publicity or media but because of his struggles and efforts. In > this Jupiter plays the main role. Jupiter is the 5th lord of merits > of past lives who from the 9th house of luck, connects the Lagna, the > third and the Fifth. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Your input is much appreciated :-) > > > > You Wrote: > > //He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the > > 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. > We> know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the > > dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts).// > > > What I find interesting here with Jupiter in sign of exaltation > in D10 > (great successes) is Jupiter's lordship (Rasi) of 6th > house...showing our > competitors & rivals and consequently our > ability to rise above them. If > I'm not mistaken his phenomenal > record of being virtually impossible to > beat began during Rahu > dasa. Note Rahu in D10 in sign of Jupiter who (as > said) is exalted > in this chart. > > > > Mars is debilitated in D10 in sign of Moon who is disposited (in > Rasi) by > debilitated F/M Saturn. This Saturn, conjunct 10th lord > Mars (in 10th), > speaks surely of the ups and downs he experienced > in his career. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > > > -- Best Regards Rajeev Mundra www.EagleEyeTrade.com 09334010234 / 09430300000 Free Sms Updates http://www.smsgupshup.com/groups/EagleEyeTrade EagleEyeTrade Group http://groups.google.comEagleEyeTrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dear Mrs Wendy and Raviji, Thank you both for correcting me. Just as Raviji pointed out, I have gone wrong in timezone entry. There was this radio talk show page which suggested louiseville,KY time as GMT-8 hrs. Now with the rectified timezone I also got cancer rising :-). I find that Donald Trump as well as Madonna is also Leo rising. But madonna's birth data was given grade B in the databank. So adding only Donald trump's data here. June 14, 1956 9:51 am Queens, New York. Mrs Wendy,in my search, I found that Mr. Trump is also 6 ft 3 " . How do we judge the height of a person? Other than he fits the physical description written for simha lagna. Regards Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Dear Manasa, As I said earlier, I've created a folder for Leo lagna in the " Photos " section. You should be able to add Donald Trump's photo there if you have one. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:39 PM Re: Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Mrs Wendy and Raviji, Thank you both for correcting me. Just as Raviji pointed out, I have gone wrong in timezone entry. There was this radio talk show page which suggested louiseville,KY time as GMT-8 hrs. Now with the rectified timezone I also got cancer rising :-). I find that Donald Trump as well as Madonna is also Leo rising. But madonna's birth data was given grade B in the databank. So adding only Donald trump's data here. June 14, 1956 9:51 am Queens, New York. Mrs Wendy,in my search, I found that Mr. Trump is also 6 ft 3 " . How do we judge the height of a person? Other than he fits the physical description written for simha lagna. Regards Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 PS: Just remember to put the birth details in the box provided for " description " . See how I've done it with the others if you're not sure. __ Dear Manasa, As I said earlier, I've created a folder for Leo lagna in the " Photos " section. You should be able to add Donald Trump's photo there if you have one. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:39 PM Re: Group Exercise Assignment - Simha lagna Dear Mrs Wendy and Raviji, Thank you both for correcting me. Just as Raviji pointed out, I have gone wrong in timezone entry. There was this radio talk show page which suggested louiseville,KY time as GMT-8 hrs. Now with the rectified timezone I also got cancer rising :-). I find that Donald Trump as well as Madonna is also Leo rising. But madonna's birth data was given grade B in the databank. So adding only Donald trump's data here. June 14, 1956 9:51 am Queens, New York. Mrs Wendy,in my search, I found that Mr. Trump is also 6 ft 3 " . How do we judge the height of a person? Other than he fits the physical description written for simha lagna. Regards Manasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Dear Rajeev, Being retrograde has a positive effect on malefics, although their houses will still suffer setbacks. Yours, Vic On Jun 28, 2008, at 8:04 AM, RajeevM wrote: > Hi Ravindramani > > what about saturn® being debiliated in 10th house? > Will that not have a -ve effect on career or does it gets a strong > nich-bhag? > > Om Namah Shivay > Rajeev > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM, ravindramani <ravindramani > wrote: > >> Dear Mrs. Wendy, >> >> Yes. I agree. >> >> In any chart, the quality/strength of the lagna lord decides the >> ability to work hard and enjoy success. The strength of the 5th lord >> shows the merits of the past life or the lives. Here Mars powerfully >> aspects (special) the lagna. The connection between the lagna and the >> merit of the past life is established from the house of activities. >> This indicates the trait of success and ups in life. The very planet >> promises the downs in a subtle manner. Mars is placed in the >> constellation of Ketu who is in the 8th house of secrets and set >> backs. 8th lord Saturn moves to 10th. This reinforces the same >> indication. >> >> This pattern repeats every where. Note this from Moon. Notice this >> in D-10. (connection between the 10th and the trika houses/house >> lords.) Sun the 10th lord goes to 12th and influenced by 6th lord >> Mars in D-10. But this grouping is influenced by the lord 3rd Saturn >> who is in his own house of self efforts. Ali became invincible, not >> of publicity or media but because of his struggles and efforts. In >> this Jupiter plays the main role. Jupiter is the 5th lord of merits >> of past lives who from the 9th house of luck, connects the Lagna, the >> third and the Fifth. >> >> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. >> >> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya >> %40>, >> " Wendy Vasicek " >> <jyotishvidya wrote: >>> >>> Dear Ravindramani, >>> >>> Your input is much appreciated :-) >>> >>> You Wrote: >>> //He got the 9th Lord Jupiter's dasha in 1970, who is exalted in the >>> 9th house of D-10 and with Mars, who is the 6th lord of the D-10. >> We> know the continued success and the set backs Ali faced during the >>> dasha. ( I consider lordships and aspects in divisional charts).// >>>> What I find interesting here with Jupiter in sign of exaltation >> in D10 > (great successes) is Jupiter's lordship (Rasi) of 6th >> house...showing our > competitors & rivals and consequently our >> ability to rise above them. If > I'm not mistaken his phenomenal >> record of being virtually impossible to > beat began during Rahu >> dasa. Note Rahu in D10 in sign of Jupiter who (as > said) is exalted >> in this chart. >>> >>> Mars is debilitated in D10 in sign of Moon who is disposited (in >> Rasi) by > debilitated F/M Saturn. This Saturn, conjunct 10th lord >> Mars (in 10th), > speaks surely of the ups and downs he experienced >> in his career. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> Mrs. Wendy >>> http://JyotishVidya.com >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Best Regards > Rajeev Mundra > www.EagleEyeTrade.com > 09334010234 / 09430300000 > > Free Sms Updates > http://www.smsgupshup.com/groups/EagleEyeTrade > > EagleEyeTrade Group > http://groups.google.comEagleEyeTrade > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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