Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear Krishna, My mail was a simple response how combined destiny operates. My views were certainly not on your chart. I do not have your chart at all with me. You may be aware, I always maintain the basic promise comes in a chart first, then the dasha and finally the transit. The dasha sequence is important in a chart. At what age, a particular dasha comes is more important and how the other planets interact with that dasha lord. A person dies at the moment when it is promised not necessarily at the time of 8th lords dasha only. All rules given in the classics are general in nature. If your chart promises that 8th lord's dasha should give such results as you mentioned in your mail then it would definitely manifest. Even a person may die during his lagna lord's dasha if the death is so promised in his chart. It is not necessary that a person should only die in the dasha of 8th lord. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear members, A very interestin discussion and could not resist to myself without adding couple of my views.However these views are just based on planetary positions and aspectes mentioned. of course relevant to current transitory position of planets as at the time(IST 6.30 P.m) Looking from the point of view and results coming there from 10th house as well as dasa of ketu the native likely to have the blessings of elders .Struggle due to dasa of nodal planet will increase faith in worship and divert attention to regular prayer.Incase the birth happens to occur during dasa of jupiter,certainly the native will be genuinely interested and will work for the growth and promotion of family as well.yet the current dasa being 4th in order some upheavels if occur the individual will be able to withstand to the problems vrkrishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Krishna and Swamy, If I might be allowed to comment :-) A blanket statement (generalisation) is often given when the horoscope in question is not at hand... In your case, 8th lord Jupiter has 5th as his moolatrikona and, as per the dictums of jyotish, the moolatrikona has precedence over own sign. Remember too that trikona lordship will stall the effects due to other (evil) lordship. Ketu's own dasa will give results more akin to 8th bhava, bearing in mind that Ketu's dispositor occupies 8th from 8th... Also note in your chart that Jupiter sits in nakshatra of 9th lord Mars who occupies 10th in conjunction with 12th lord Moon...confirming what you said below: ///- Frequent promotions and good raise in salary - Visited abroad multiple times - Lived abraod for a few years/// 5th lord Jupiter's star lord (Mars) disposits/aspects 7th lord Saturn etc, etc., bearing witness to your below statement: ///- Got married - Had two children/// Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:01 PM Re: Re: Combined desiny of family Dear Swamy, Thanks for giving the overview. But, some of your statements appear like blanket statement and could lead to misunderstandings. For axample, you said: //A person dies during the dasha of 8th lord (unnatural death or accidental death or even the natural death). It is the adverse dasha for him.// Though I agree that 8th lord plays a role in one's longevity, stating that a person dies during the dasha of 8th lord is stretching it too far, in my opinion. I am a living example having successfully completed the dasha of the 8th lord Jupiter some years back. In fact, the best period of my life so far is the dasha of 8th lord. Following events took place in my 8th lord dasha: - Completed education and started my job - Got married - Had two children - Frequent promotions and good raise in salary - Visited abroad multiple times - Lived abraod for a few years - Bought a plot - Constructed my own house and moved in - Helped my father financially and otherwise for getting my sister married - Bought a car - No notable negative problems like surgery, accident, poor health etc. For the above reasons I wanted to understand my 8th house better. That is why I gave you the combinations from my own chart. I said in my mail that there are no aspects on Ketu in the 8th. But, if one considers sphuta drishti, 8th lord Jupiter aspects Ketu in the 8th house via sphuta drishti, though he sits in the 3rd house. Please don't think I am writing this mail for the sake of argument. I have genuine interest in discussion and understanding how a chart unfolds one's life. I would like to look forward to your comments. Regards, Krishna Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear Swamy, I was under the impression that you responded to my specific query where I gave the deatils of my 8th house and asked you to comment on the same. The confusion is over now and also Wendy has come up with a clear explation to my case. Regards, Krishna --- muthukumaraswamydesigar <muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > My mail was a simple response how combined destiny operates. > My views > were certainly not on your chart. I do not have your chart at > all with > me. You may be aware, I always maintain the basic promise > comes in a > chart first, then the dasha and finally the transit. The > dasha > sequence is important in a chart. At what age, a particular > dasha > comes is more important and how the other planets interact > with that > dasha lord. A person dies at the moment when it is promised > not > necessarily at the time of 8th lords dasha only. All rules > given in > the classics are general in nature. If your chart promises > that 8th > lord's dasha should give such results as you mentioned in your > mail > then it would definitely manifest. > > Even a person may die during his lagna lord's dasha if the > death is so > promised in his chart. It is not necessary that a person > should only > die in the dasha of 8th lord. > > Swamy. > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Yes. The 8th lord's dasha can even take one to such a high position. Again I emphasize the promise should be there in the chart and the dasha should support it. One of the significations of 8th lord is " elevation at the cost others loss " . Take the case of P.V. Narasimha Rao. Rajiv Gandhi died. No prominent leaders in Congress party to lead. He became the Prime Minister of India from the dark, in the dasha of 8th Lord. (Kanya Lagna chart given by Shri K.N. Rao.) His Mars was dig bali in 10th House with digbali Sun the 12 lord, with vargottama 10th lord Mercury in the 10th house aspecting the 4th house of Simhasan. That is promise for elevation. The same promise made him to seek anticipatory bail in Lahubhai Patak case for his actions. Remember 8th lord and 12th lord combination made his fall (Mars/Sun) and he sought anticipatory bail (8L + 12L – bandana yoga, a jail going combination.). Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Very true, Gains/Income from the 8th can only be realised after a tragedy or loss, for instance, receipt of provident Fund/Gratuity after loss of service, Inheritance after death of father,loss of limb in accident and Insurance/compensation received, or dowry which also would be a sort of loss to someone else.. regards/Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote: > > Yes. The 8th lord's dasha can even take one to such a high position. > Again I emphasize the promise should be there in the chart and the > dasha should support it. One of the significations of 8th lord > is " elevation at the cost others loss " . > > Take the case of P.V. Narasimha Rao. Rajiv Gandhi died. No prominent > leaders in Congress party to lead. He became the Prime Minister of > India from the dark, in the dasha of 8th Lord. (Kanya Lagna chart > given by Shri K.N. Rao.) His Mars was dig bali in 10th House with > digbali Sun the 12 lord, with vargottama 10th lord Mercury in the 10th > house aspecting the 4th house of Simhasan. That is promise for > elevation. The same promise made him to seek anticipatory bail in > Lahubhai Patak case for his actions. Remember 8th lord and 12th lord > combination made his fall (Mars/Sun) and he sought anticipatory bail > (8L + 12L – bandana yoga, a jail going combination.). > > Swamy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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