Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Here is a chart (mine) to consider for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga: www.weare108.com/dl/vic_dicara.gif Two planets are neecha: Saturn and Mars Let's look at Saturn first... ~~~ SATURN ~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, which is a Kendra from Asc. 2. It's debilitated by Aries, which is the exaltation sign of Sun. Sun is also in VII which is a Kendra from Asc. 3. The exaltation sign of Saturn is Libra, whose lord is Venus. Venus is in VIII, which is a Kendra from the moon (which is in V) 4. Saturn is in Sag. in Navamsha, not exalted. Thus Saturn should have cancellation of debilitation on THREE major counts. Now there is the principle (see http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/ArticleNeechaBhanga.htm) : > the planet creating the cancellation should not own, be conjunct or > aspected by the rulers of, the 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th houses. Again, the planets causing cancellation are: 1. Mars 2. Sun 3. Venus Sun owns VIII, so that NBRY is diffused. Mars is conjucnt with the Sun, so that NBRY is diffused. Venus fulfills this requirement. So does this mean that Saturn is Neech-Bhanga and Venus has Neech- Bhaga Raja Yoga? Does Venus being situated in VIII have any impact on this Raja Yoga? ~~~ MARS ~~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Cancer, whose Lord is Moon. Moon in in V, which is not a kendra 2. It's debilitated by Caner, which is the exaltation sign of Jupiter. Jupiter is in X which is a Kendra 3. The exaltation sign of Mars is Cap., whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is in IV, which is a Kendra 4. Mars is in Libra in Navamsha, not Exalted. Thus Mars is neech-bhanga on TWO counts, by Jupiter and Saturn. Now regarding the Raja-Yoga: Jupiter is owner of XII, so that's out Saturn escapes the aspect of Jupiter by 14º So does this mean that Mars is neecha-bhanga, and Saturn has Neecha- Bhanga Raja-Yoga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Vic, //1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, which is a Kendra from Asc.// According to my calculations debilitated Mars is 90% combust Sun in 8th?? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:56 AM Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Here is a chart (mine) to consider for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga: www.weare108.com/dl/vic_dicara.gif Two planets are neecha: Saturn and Mars Let's look at Saturn first... ~~~ SATURN ~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, which is a Kendra from Asc. 2. It's debilitated by Aries, which is the exaltation sign of Sun. Sun is also in VII which is a Kendra from Asc. 3. The exaltation sign of Saturn is Libra, whose lord is Venus. Venus is in VIII, which is a Kendra from the moon (which is in V) 4. Saturn is in Sag. in Navamsha, not exalted. Thus Saturn should have cancellation of debilitation on THREE major counts. Now there is the principle (see http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/ArticleNeechaBhanga.htm) : > the planet creating the cancellation should not own, be conjunct or > aspected by the rulers of, the 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th houses. Again, the planets causing cancellation are: 1. Mars 2. Sun 3. Venus Sun owns VIII, so that NBRY is diffused. Mars is conjucnt with the Sun, so that NBRY is diffused. Venus fulfills this requirement. So does this mean that Saturn is Neech-Bhanga and Venus has Neech- Bhaga Raja Yoga? Does Venus being situated in VIII have any impact on this Raja Yoga? ~~~ MARS ~~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Cancer, whose Lord is Moon. Moon in in V, which is not a kendra 2. It's debilitated by Caner, which is the exaltation sign of Jupiter. Jupiter is in X which is a Kendra 3. The exaltation sign of Mars is Cap., whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is in IV, which is a Kendra 4. Mars is in Libra in Navamsha, not Exalted. Thus Mars is neech-bhanga on TWO counts, by Jupiter and Saturn. Now regarding the Raja-Yoga: Jupiter is owner of XII, so that's out Saturn escapes the aspect of Jupiter by 14º So does this mean that Mars is neecha-bhanga, and Saturn has Neecha- Bhanga Raja-Yoga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 PS: With the data given I get Sagittarius rising 29:42:34...What ayanamsha are you using?? Can someone (please) check the chart using the following data; Victor DiCara 27 Jul 1970 (19:31) Islip, New York ___ Dear Vic, //1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, which is a Kendra from Asc.// According to my calculations debilitated Mars is 90% combust Sun in 8th?? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:56 AM Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Here is a chart (mine) to consider for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga: www.weare108.com/dl/vic_dicara.gif Two planets are neecha: Saturn and Mars Let's look at Saturn first... ~~~ SATURN ~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, which is a Kendra from Asc. 2. It's debilitated by Aries, which is the exaltation sign of Sun. Sun is also in VII which is a Kendra from Asc. 3. The exaltation sign of Saturn is Libra, whose lord is Venus. Venus is in VIII, which is a Kendra from the moon (which is in V) 4. Saturn is in Sag. in Navamsha, not exalted. Thus Saturn should have cancellation of debilitation on THREE major counts. Now there is the principle (see http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/ArticleNeechaBhanga.htm) : > the planet creating the cancellation should not own, be conjunct or > aspected by the rulers of, the 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th houses. Again, the planets causing cancellation are: 1. Mars 2. Sun 3. Venus Sun owns VIII, so that NBRY is diffused. Mars is conjucnt with the Sun, so that NBRY is diffused. Venus fulfills this requirement. So does this mean that Saturn is Neech-Bhanga and Venus has Neech- Bhaga Raja Yoga? Does Venus being situated in VIII have any impact on this Raja Yoga? ~~~ MARS ~~~~ 1. It's debilitated by Cancer, whose Lord is Moon. Moon in in V, which is not a kendra 2. It's debilitated by Caner, which is the exaltation sign of Jupiter. Jupiter is in X which is a Kendra 3. The exaltation sign of Mars is Cap., whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is in IV, which is a Kendra 4. Mars is in Libra in Navamsha, not Exalted. Thus Mars is neech-bhanga on TWO counts, by Jupiter and Saturn. Now regarding the Raja-Yoga: Jupiter is owner of XII, so that's out Saturn escapes the aspect of Jupiter by 14º So does this mean that Mars is neecha-bhanga, and Saturn has Neecha- Bhanga Raja-Yoga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, YIKES!!!! I use the Ayanamsha from The Rosicrucian Ephemerides, which, for July 1970 is said to be 23:26. Indastro.com gives me the same Capricorn Ascending, but at 1:43:22. Being a cusp-er is a difficult thing! =) I have 2 degrees, Indastro has 1 degrees, and you have 0 degrees. Each 1 degree different. This is obvious, but, it WAS daylight savings, correct? wow, this could change EVERYTHING. Thanks for your attention! Yours, Vic On May 21, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > PS: With the data given I get Sagittarius rising 29:42:34...What > ayanamsha are > you using?? > > Can someone (please) check the chart using the following data; > Victor DiCara > 27 Jul 1970 (19:31) > Islip, New York > ___ > > Dear Vic, > > //1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, > which is a Kendra from Asc.// > > According to my calculations debilitated Mars is 90% combust Sun in > 8th?? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:56 AM > Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > > Here is a chart (mine) to consider for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga: > www.weare108.com/dl/vic_dicara.gif > > Two planets are neecha: Saturn and Mars > > Let's look at Saturn first... > > ~~~ SATURN ~~~ > > 1. It's debilitated by Aries, whose Lord is Mars. Mars in in VII, > which is a Kendra from Asc. > 2. It's debilitated by Aries, which is the exaltation sign of Sun. Sun > is also in VII which is a Kendra from Asc. > 3. The exaltation sign of Saturn is Libra, whose lord is Venus. Venus > is in VIII, which is a Kendra from the moon (which is in V) > 4. Saturn is in Sag. in Navamsha, not exalted. > > Thus Saturn should have cancellation of debilitation on THREE major > counts. > > Now there is the principle (see > http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/ArticleNeechaBhanga.htm) > : > > > the planet creating the cancellation should not own, be conjunct or > > aspected by the rulers of, the 3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th houses. > > Again, the planets causing cancellation are: > > 1. Mars > 2. Sun > 3. Venus > > Sun owns VIII, so that NBRY is diffused. > Mars is conjucnt with the Sun, so that NBRY is diffused. > > Venus fulfills this requirement. > > So does this mean that Saturn is Neech-Bhanga and Venus has Neech- > Bhaga Raja Yoga? > > Does Venus being situated in VIII have any impact on this Raja Yoga? > > ~~~ MARS ~~~~ > 1. It's debilitated by Cancer, whose Lord is Moon. Moon in in V, which > is not a kendra > 2. It's debilitated by Caner, which is the exaltation sign of Jupiter. > Jupiter is in X which is a Kendra > 3. The exaltation sign of Mars is Cap., whose lord is Saturn. Saturn > is in IV, which is a Kendra > 4. Mars is in Libra in Navamsha, not Exalted. > > Thus Mars is neech-bhanga on TWO counts, by Jupiter and Saturn. Now > regarding the Raja-Yoga: > > Jupiter is owner of XII, so that's out > Saturn escapes the aspect of Jupiter by 14º > > So does this mean that Mars is neecha-bhanga, and Saturn has Neecha- > Bhanga Raja-Yoga? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Vic, Lahiri ayanamsha (sanctioned by the Indian government) is the one most used by Vedic astrologers. For your D.O.B. (27 Jul 1970) the ayanamsha value was 23:26:54. According to my calculations this gives Sagittarius rising 29:42:34. //but, it WAS daylight savings, correct?// Yes, DST was in effect on that date. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 PM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Dear Mrs. Wendy, YIKES!!!! I use the Ayanamsha from The Rosicrucian Ephemerides, which, for July 1970 is said to be 23:26. Indastro.com gives me the same Capricorn Ascending, but at 1:43:22. Being a cusp-er is a difficult thing! =) I have 2 degrees, Indastro has 1 degrees, and you have 0 degrees. Each 1 degree different. This is obvious, but, it WAS daylight savings, correct? wow, this could change EVERYTHING. Thanks for your attention! Yours, Vic On May 21, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > PS: With the data given I get Sagittarius rising 29:42:34...What > ayanamsha are > you using?? > > Can someone (please) check the chart using the following data; > Victor DiCara > 27 Jul 1970 (19:31) > Islip, New York > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, My sincere apologies. I've located the discrepancies... My ACTUAL time is 1970-07-27 19:38 The time I mistakenly penned on the chart is 1970-07-27 19:34 And the time you are using (not sure wherefrom) is 1970-07-27 19:31 Does that set things aright? Thanks, Vic On May 21, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > Dear Vic, > > Lahiri ayanamsha (sanctioned by the Indian government) is the one > most used by > Vedic astrologers. For your D.O.B. (27 Jul 1970) the ayanamsha value > was > 23:26:54. According to my calculations this gives Sagittarius rising > 29:42:34. > > //but, it WAS daylight savings, correct?// > > Yes, DST was in effect on that date. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 PM > Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > YIKES!!!! > > I use the Ayanamsha from The Rosicrucian Ephemerides, which, for July > 1970 is said to be 23:26. > Indastro.com gives me the same Capricorn Ascending, but at 1:43:22. > Being a cusp-er is a difficult thing! =) > > I have 2 degrees, Indastro has 1 degrees, and you have 0 degrees. Each > 1 degree different. > > This is obvious, but, it WAS daylight savings, correct? > > wow, this could change EVERYTHING. > > Thanks for your attention! > > Yours, > Vic > > On May 21, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > > > PS: With the data given I get Sagittarius rising 29:42:34...What > > ayanamsha are > > you using?? > > > > Can someone (please) check the chart using the following data; > > Victor DiCara > > 27 Jul 1970 (19:31) > > Islip, New York > > ___ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Sir / Madam Lot of talk on NBRY.. How to find and effect. I have one query in this regard. How does a situation in which one planet is weak or in poor state suddenly looses malefic qualities and becomes a raj yog karak? I also hear that NBRY if strong takes a person to heights which even normal raj yog cannot take? How does this power suddenly comes? How can we relate this to human qualities and skills or situations? I also hear that many great astrologers can predict what maha dasa and antar dasha are running by observing the body and activity of the person. IF this is possible? What can be the possible physical indications or physical signs or manifestations which points to some strong/weak/good/bad yoga or period working? Some views and analysis from members who have long experience in this field will be very useful? Regards Rajeev Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 21 May, 2008 9:15:10 PM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Dear Vic, Lahiri ayanamsha (sanctioned by the Indian government) is the one most used by Vedic astrologers. For your D.O.B. (27 Jul 1970) the ayanamsha value was 23:26:54.. According to my calculations this gives Sagittarius rising 29:42:34. //but, it WAS daylight savings, correct?// Yes, DST was in effect on that date. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Vic D " <vicdicara (AT) gmail (DOT) com> <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 PM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Dear Mrs. Wendy, YIKES!!!! I use the Ayanamsha from The Rosicrucian Ephemerides, which, for July 1970 is said to be 23:26. Indastro.com gives me the same Capricorn Ascending, but at 1:43:22. Being a cusp-er is a difficult thing! =) I have 2 degrees, Indastro has 1 degrees, and you have 0 degrees. Each 1 degree different. This is obvious, but, it WAS daylight savings, correct? wow, this could change EVERYTHING. Thanks for your attention! Yours, Vic On May 21, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > PS: With the data given I get Sagittarius rising 29:42:34...What > ayanamsha are > you using?? > > Can someone (please) check the chart using the following data; > Victor DiCara > 27 Jul 1970 (19:31) > Islip, New York > ____________ _________ _________ _______ What is your Emotional Quotient? Find out here - http://in.search./search? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & \ p=emotional+quotient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Vic, Thank you for clearing that up. My error was in not magnifying the chart (on your website). looking at it (squinting) without magnification it certainly looks like 19:31...at least to my tired eyes. I've now changed the time to 19:38 and, using Lahiri ayanamsha, get Capricorn 01:43:12 Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:12 AM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Dear Mrs. Wendy, My sincere apologies. I've located the discrepancies... My ACTUAL time is 1970-07-27 19:38 The time I mistakenly penned on the chart is 1970-07-27 19:34 And the time you are using (not sure wherefrom) is 1970-07-27 19:31 Does that set things aright? Thanks, Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Rajeev, > I have one query in this regard. > How does a situation in which one planet is weak or in poor state > suddenly looses malefic qualities and becomes a raj yog karak? > It's like this... a man has to live in a house which is owned and operated by his deadly enemy. This causes the man to become severely depressed, he loses a lot of his enthusiasm and energy. This is called " the fall " or " neecha " . What happens next is that a benefic friend can see the suffering man (due to being placed in the right location in relation to him), and reaches out and helps. Perhaps he picks up the phone and speaks to the suffering man and helps him regain much of his courage and strength. Thus the " fall " has been " broken " by the friend helping the suffering man come out of his depression. The suffering man regains most of his normal energy. What is more glorious than that, however, is the " hero " of the situation: the friend who went out of his way to help the suffering man. It is better to give than to receive. Or, in Sanskrit terms, The " ashraya " gets more ananda than the " vishaya " . These maxims hold true here as well. The hero of the story get's very energized by his pious efforts to help his suffering friend. This adds tremendous energy to his condition. This is called " Neech-Bhang Raj-Yog " . This powerful energy is added to the hero's original state, thus if his or her original state was strong, it can result in immense power. Does this help you understand? - Vic www.weare108.com http://web.mac.com/vicdicara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 > I also hear that many great astrologers can predict what maha dasa > and antar dasha are running by observing the body and activity of > the person. IF this is possible? What can be the possible physical > indications or physical signs or manifestations which points to some > strong/weak/good/bad yoga or period working? > Rajeev, It's not impossible at all, but should require both thorough experience and keen intuitive talents, and should not be *relied* upon without a fact check. One should be so familiar with the qualities of signs and planets and principles of astrology. You would first need to guess the ascendant which could be done by observing typical physical characteristics. For example, signs 1,2,11 & 12 are physically small signs. Seeing large person you would *guess* their ascendant more likely to be 5,6,7, or 8. For the period, I would suppose you need at least a little data on the activity or experiences of the person. For example: A well-wisher of mine passed a friend of his getting a traffic ticket and then guessed which lunar bhav the sun was transiting on that basis (I forget which it was specifically, I am a beginner). Then he went home and did a fact check and was happy to see that he was correct. However, besides being fun and magically impressive to certain individuals, i don't see much practical use in this. Well, I do think it is an excellent way to sharpen you skills, but I don't see much practical value. Nothing should be predicted or spoken without due deliberation, IMO. - Vic www.weare108.com http://web.mac.com/vicdicara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 =) Sorry about the eye-strain!!!! And thanks so much for everything. On May 21, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > Dear Vic, > > Thank you for clearing that up. My error was in not magnifying the > chart (on > your website). looking at it (squinting) without magnification it > certainly > looks like 19:31...at least to my tired eyes. > > I've now changed the time to 19:38 and, using Lahiri ayanamsha, get > Capricorn > 01:43:12 > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:12 AM > Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > My sincere apologies. I've located the discrepancies... > > My ACTUAL time is 1970-07-27 19:38 > The time I mistakenly penned on the chart is 1970-07-27 19:34 > And the time you are using (not sure wherefrom) is 1970-07-27 19:31 > > Does that set things aright? > > Thanks, > Vic > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Hi Vic What you explained about helping and being helped sound nice. But I wanted to ask something else. Consider this Say in my chart (not mind, but just to take an example), venus is necha. and mars does a nicha bhanga for venus. Also assume that Mars was already exalted. Now what can we say about this person? Too little venus and too much mars? What would be the physical and pyschological characteristics of such a person with regard to two above planets? Also is it that venus which had lost its powers and was rescued by mars, starts to act like mars and thus there are 2 mars in one horoscope, and thus he excels at tasks which mars can do and earns greatness...!!! Just want to relate people and real life facts and human pyschology to various to astro cases/theory. Regards Rajeev Vic D <vicdicara jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 21 May, 2008 10:16:53 PM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Rajeev, > I have one query in this regard. > How does a situation in which one planet is weak or in poor state > suddenly looses malefic qualities and becomes a raj yog karak? > It's like this... a man has to live in a house which is owned and operated by his deadly enemy. This causes the man to become severely depressed, he loses a lot of his enthusiasm and energy. This is called " the fall " or " neecha " . What happens next is that a benefic friend can see the suffering man (due to being placed in the right location in relation to him), and reaches out and helps. Perhaps he picks up the phone and speaks to the suffering man and helps him regain much of his courage and strength. Thus the " fall " has been " broken " by the friend helping the suffering man come out of his depression. The suffering man regains most of his normal energy. What is more glorious than that, however, is the " hero " of the situation: the friend who went out of his way to help the suffering man. It is better to give than to receive. Or, in Sanskrit terms, The " ashraya " gets more ananda than the " vishaya " . These maxims hold true here as well. The hero of the story get's very energized by his pious efforts to help his suffering friend. This adds tremendous energy to his condition. This is called " Neech-Bhang Raj-Yog " . This powerful energy is added to the hero's original state, thus if his or her original state was strong, it can result in immense power. Does this help you understand? - Vic www.weare108.. com http://web.mac. com/vicdicara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Oh I love the site of seers and sages sitting in their huts and aiming at stars. Big beard, clam face, serene suroundings and perfect tarnquility. Talk of super super concious intution. I know you would already be feeling lighter in your chair having read the above two lines. But if astrology can be bought in day to day life work and dealngs, and made a part of thought process, just as much as brakes and accelerators are part of a vehicle, it would be great. Thus if we discus real life symptoms/ pyschology/ attitudes etc everytime when we discus astro theories, it would become far more profound. This already happens now in may emails, but it would be great if people write more wth this in mind. Regards Rajeev Vic D <vicdicara jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 21 May, 2008 10:24:09 PM Re: Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > I also hear that many great astrologers can predict what maha dasa > and antar dasha are running by observing the body and activity of > the person. IF this is possible? What can be the possible physical > indications or physical signs or manifestations which points to some > strong/weak/ good/bad yoga or period working? > Rajeev, It's not impossible at all, but should require both thorough experience and keen intuitive talents, and should not be *relied* upon without a fact check. One should be so familiar with the qualities of signs and planets and principles of astrology. You would first need to guess the ascendant which could be done by observing typical physical characteristics. For example, signs 1,2,11 & 12 are physically small signs. Seeing large person you would *guess* their ascendant more likely to be 5,6,7, or 8. For the period, I would suppose you need at least a little data on the activity or experiences of the person. For example: A well-wisher of mine passed a friend of his getting a traffic ticket and then guessed which lunar bhav the sun was transiting on that basis (I forget which it was specifically, I am a beginner). Then he went home and did a fact check and was happy to see that he was correct. However, besides being fun and magically impressive to certain individuals, i don't see much practical use in this. Well, I do think it is an excellent way to sharpen you skills, but I don't see much practical value. Nothing should be predicted or spoken without due deliberation, IMO. - Vic www.weare108. com http://web.mac. com/vicdicara Chocoholics & #39; paradise! Enter here - http://in.search./search? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & \ p=chocolates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 > Say in my chart (not mind, but just to take an example), venus is > necha. > and mars does a nicha bhanga for venus. > Also assume that Mars was already exalted. > Now what can we say about this person? > Too little venus and too much mars? Sanjeev, Despite what others, even my gurus have to say in common speech, i do not consider one planet " bad " and another planet " good " . Every planet has good and bad qualities. Also, every planet is good for somethings but bad for others. When a planet gets power, that means it manifests it's GOOD qualities more fully, and it's bad qualities shrink away. If Mars were fully exalted and yoga-karic, etc. you would see barely any of the negative implications of mars and very strong implications of Mars' good qualities - such as power, command, energy, courage. > What would be the physical and pyschological characteristics of such > a person with regard to two above planets? > I'll leave this to others to answer. I don't know. > Also is it that venus which had lost its powers and was rescued by > mars, > starts to act like mars and thus there are 2 mars in one horoscope, > and thus he excels at tasks which mars can do and earns > greatness...!!! > This is interesting. I wonder what the more experienced Astrologers here will answer! - Vic www.weare108.com http://web.mac.com/vicdicara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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