Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Namaste Sri GauravYou may kindly forward this reply to other groups too, to whom you have written your " knowledgeable " email.Thanks and RegardsBharat---------- Forwarded message ---------- Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhinduApr 25, 2007 4:53 PMRe: Re:Aventurine sohamsa Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz. Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links:http://www.mindat.org/min-436.htmlhttp://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote:Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or "psiolite" or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav JainSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste Click on the sub link you’ve given. http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htm COMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT: Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit. There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite. Let’s take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits. Love, Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu <sohamsa > Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530 <sohamsa > Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post: I would like members to view the following links: http://www.mindat.org/min-436.html http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri Gaurav Before bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz. Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Aum Durgayai namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, I am not intending to step on anything personal here bharat bhaiya, merely pointing out incorrect information on a subject that I know something about. As for me consulting a gemologist: I am one !, and a 2nd generation at it too. anyway's, I wrote earlier (and write this mail) not to prove that I am better or you are but to .. ...to offer a suggestion that merely reading from a search from Google may not yield understanding of subject. Quartzs and Quartzites are two distinct things, and there is such as aventurine in feldspar form, also aventurine does not have to green, in can be other colors also, infact the "bharat" variety of green aventurine is infact not aventurine but green quartz. A very senior member of the parampara, an authority on the subject of gems, and much more to many more people around the world also attempted to explain to you in gentle & better words, but you choose otherwise. In any event, its all our karma. Lets close this, and with utmost respect; Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:27:49 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya JagannathaDear Bharat,NamasteClick on the sub link you’ve given.http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htmCOMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT:Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit.There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite.Let’s take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits.Love,Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu<sohamsa >Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530<sohamsa >Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links:http://www.mindat.org/min-436.htmlhttp://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word "Feldsper" is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or "psiolite" or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. NamasteGaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste Click on the sub link you’ve given. http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htm COMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT: Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit. There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite. Let’s take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits. Love, Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu <sohamsa > Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530 <sohamsa > Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post: I would like members to view the following links: http://www.mindat.org/min-436.html http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri Gaurav Before bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz. Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. Namaste Gaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Aum Durgayai namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, I am not intending to step on anything personal here bharat bhaiya, merely pointing out incorrect information on a subject that I know something about. As for me consulting a gemologist: I am one !, and a 2nd generation at it too. anyway's, I wrote earlier (and write this mail) not to prove that I am better or you are but to .. ...to offer a suggestion that merely reading from a search from Google may not yield understanding of subject. Quartzs and Quartzites are two distinct things, and there is such as aventurine in feldspar form, also aventurine does not have to green, in can be other colors also, infact the "bharat" variety of green aventurine is infact not aventurine but green quartz. A very senior member of the parampara, an authority on the subject of gems, and much more to many more people around the world also attempted to explain to you in gentle & better words, but you choose otherwise. In any event, its all our karma. Lets close this, and with utmost respect; Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:27:49 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya JagannathaDear Bharat,NamasteClick on the sub link you’ve given.http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htmCOMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT:Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit.There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite.Let’s take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits.Love,Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu<sohamsa >Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530<sohamsa >Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links:http://www.mindat.org/min-436.htmlhttp://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word "Feldsper" is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or "psiolite" or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. NamasteGaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Namaste Sri GauravA mere discussion was made personal by a " senior member of parampara " to which I have no connection. I do not consider anyone senior or junior. I have more respect for some humble and much more intelligent, keen, learned and curious " junior " members than some so called " senior members " of yours. The words weren't gentle or perhaps a new meaning of " gentle " is being portrayed here. I have already left the group of that " gentler " senior member. In my eyes, such a member only defiles the parampara. Btw, authority does not mean anything to me. If so called authority is basically wrong in simple facts, then, I would rather stay away from the " knowledge " of such an authority. There is a superstition being promoted and I do not wish to become a party to its mechanics. When I do talk against it, there is a small group who collectively goes against. Perhaps the matters are not related to knowledge anymore. However, it is that " group's " choice to do what it wants. I would like to pursue what I may want. You are perhaps a gemologist, but, I know how many different kinds are available. Like you said, we should close this chapter once and for all. It is a pain to members to see emails. It is a pain for me to write such too. It will be difficult for me to digest yours and " senior " member's " " knowledge " . So try and ignore my posts as much as I would do to yours. Peaceful coexistence perhaps!Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/26/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, I am not intending to step on anything personal here bharat bhaiya, merely pointing out incorrect information on a subject that I know something about. As for me consulting a gemologist: I am one !, and a 2nd generation at it too. anyway's, I wrote earlier (and write this mail) not to prove that I am better or you are but to .. ...to offer a suggestion that merely reading from a search from Google may not yield understanding of subject. Quartzs and Quartzites are two distinct things, and there is such as aventurine in feldspar form, also aventurine does not have to green, in can be other colors also, infact the " bharat " variety of green aventurine is infact not aventurine but green quartz. A very senior member of the parampara, an authority on the subject of gems, and much more to many more people around the world also attempted to explain to you in gentle & better words, but you choose otherwise. In any event, its all our karma. Lets close this, and with utmost respect; Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:27:49 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya JagannathaDear Bharat,NamasteClick on the sub link you've given. http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htmCOMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT:Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit.There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite.Let's take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits.Love,Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu ><sohamsa >Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530<sohamsa >Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links: http://www.mindat.org/min-436.htmlhttp://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. NamasteGaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Aum Durgayai Namah Om Mahalaxmiyai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, From a healthy discussion to personal retract, its unbecoming of a learned soul like yours and a novice student like me... I will still bother you in future with my questions I promise, there is no escaping that Namaste; Gaurav You are perhaps a gemologist, but, I know how many different kinds are available. (oouch) In a message dated 4/26/2007 12:56:13 P.M. India Standard Time, astrologyhindu writes: Namaste Sri GauravA mere discussion was made personal by a "senior member of parampara" to which I have no connection. I do not consider anyone senior or junior. I have more respect for some humble and much more intelligent, keen, learned and curious "junior" members than some so called "senior members" of yours. The words weren't gentle or perhaps a new meaning of "gentle" is being portrayed here. I have already left the group of that "gentler" senior member. In my eyes, such a member only defiles the parampara. Btw, authority does not mean anything to me. If so called authority is basically wrong in simple facts, then, I would rather stay away from the "knowledge" of such an authority. There is a superstition being promoted and I do not wish to become a party to its mechanics. When I do talk against it, there is a small group who collectively goes against. Perhaps the matters are not related to knowledge anymore. However, it is that "group's" choice to do what it wants. I would like to pursue what I may want. You are perhaps a gemologist, but, I know how many different kinds are available. Like you said, we should close this chapter once and for all. It is a pain to members to see emails. It is a pain for me to write such too. It will be difficult for me to digest yours and "senior" member's knowledge". So try and ignore my posts as much as I would do to yours. Peaceful coexistence perhaps!Thanks and RegardsBharat On 4/26/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, I am not intending to step on anything personal here bharat bhaiya, merely pointing out incorrect information on a subject that I know something about. As for me consulting a gemologist: I am one !, and a 2nd generation at it too. anyway's, I wrote earlier (and write this mail) not to prove that I am better or you are but to .. ...to offer a suggestion that merely reading from a search from Google may not yield understanding of subject. Quartzs and Quartzites are two distinct things, and there is such as aventurine in feldspar form, also aventurine does not have to green, in can be other colors also, infact the "bharat" variety of green aventurine is infact not aventurine but green quartz. A very senior member of the parampara, an authority on the subject of gems, and much more to many more people around the world also attempted to explain to you in gentle & better words, but you choose otherwise. In any event, its all our karma. Lets close this, and with utmost respect; Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:27:49 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya JagannathaDear Bharat,NamasteClick on the sub link you've given.http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htmCOMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT:Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit.There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite.Let's take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits.Love,Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu ><sohamsa >Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530<sohamsa >Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links:http://www.mindat.org/min-436.htmlhttp://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word "Feldsper" is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or "psiolite" or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. NamasteGaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . See what's free at AOL.com. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Namaste Gaurav:)No hard feelings. Very rarely do I get angry now, but, sometimes I do, then, may the Lord help. I apologize if I hurt yours and Sri Swee's feelings. No more personal emails of this sort. The group gets to read nothing but this. Just one more thought on Jyotish gems, Sri Harish Johari too prescribed Diamond on the Thumb (refer: my discussion with Sri Chandrashekhar in SJC Africa group). Page 29 of " The healing power of Gemstones " . It is quite a well known book. I did read that you wanted to know what different kinds of cat's eye meant. In the same book you can refer to Page 159 and Page 162. Let me see if some more references come by. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/27/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Om Mahalaxmiyai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, From a healthy discussion to personal retract, its unbecoming of a learned soul like yours and a novice student like me... I will still bother you in future with my questions I promise, there is no escaping that Namaste; Gaurav You are perhaps a gemologist, but, I know how many different kinds are available. (oouch) In a message dated 4/26/2007 12:56:13 P.M. India Standard Time, astrologyhindu writes: Namaste Sri GauravA mere discussion was made personal by a " senior member of parampara " to which I have no connection. I do not consider anyone senior or junior. I have more respect for some humble and much more intelligent, keen, learned and curious " junior " members than some so called " senior members " of yours. The words weren't gentle or perhaps a new meaning of " gentle " is being portrayed here. I have already left the group of that " gentler " senior member. In my eyes, such a member only defiles the parampara. Btw, authority does not mean anything to me. If so called authority is basically wrong in simple facts, then, I would rather stay away from the " knowledge " of such an authority. There is a superstition being promoted and I do not wish to become a party to its mechanics. When I do talk against it, there is a small group who collectively goes against. Perhaps the matters are not related to knowledge anymore. However, it is that " group's " choice to do what it wants. I would like to pursue what I may want. You are perhaps a gemologist, but, I know how many different kinds are available. Like you said, we should close this chapter once and for all. It is a pain to members to see emails. It is a pain for me to write such too. It will be difficult for me to digest yours and " senior " member's " " knowledge " . So try and ignore my posts as much as I would do to yours. Peaceful coexistence perhaps!Thanks and RegardsBharat On 4/26/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya, I am not intending to step on anything personal here bharat bhaiya, merely pointing out incorrect information on a subject that I know something about. As for me consulting a gemologist: I am one !, and a 2nd generation at it too. anyway's, I wrote earlier (and write this mail) not to prove that I am better or you are but to .. ...to offer a suggestion that merely reading from a search from Google may not yield understanding of subject. Quartzs and Quartzites are two distinct things, and there is such as aventurine in feldspar form, also aventurine does not have to green, in can be other colors also, infact the " bharat " variety of green aventurine is infact not aventurine but green quartz. A very senior member of the parampara, an authority on the subject of gems, and much more to many more people around the world also attempted to explain to you in gentle & better words, but you choose otherwise. In any event, its all our karma. Lets close this, and with utmost respect; Namaste Gaurav In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:27:49 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya JagannathaDear Bharat,NamasteClick on the sub link you've given.http://www.seabgems.com/green_aventurine.htm COMPOSITION & ENVIRONMENT:Green Aventurine Quartz, is actually a quartzit, It is a rock, not a mineral. It is composed essentially of interlocking macrocrystalline quartz grains and other color imparting minerals. Usually formed by metamorphism (metamorphism is the alteration of a rock due to changes in heat, pressure or chemical environment.) When a quartz rich sedimentary deposit or a sandstone undergoes metamorphism the original material alters to a compact rock. Composed of interlocking quartz grains known as quartzite. Most of the aventurine quartz is filled with tiny platelets of a green chromium mica, called fuchsite. Although some aventurines contain different varieties of mica, hematite or other sparkly inclusions. These colorful specks add sparkle and also create or help create the body color of the aventurine they inhabit.There is a marked difference between quartz and quartzite.Let's take Venus and Jupiter as the example. Both maybe Gurus but they do their work very differently. Both an orange an an apple maybe fruits but both of them give different benefits.Love,Swee Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu ><sohamsa >Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:11:27 +0530<sohamsa >Re: Re:Aventurine Further to my post:I would like members to view the following links:http://www.mindat.org/min-436.html http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html <http://www.mindat.org/min-6767.html> This will clearly show what I was mentioning. Aventurine Feldsper is a synonym of Sunstone. It is by no means Green! I have clearly mentioned in my first post that Aventurine is a green variety of quartz. By the very color, the said gems dealer should have understood, instead of making a case of it. I cannot help it if stones that are opaque and yet work. If some people have a problem with the healing properties of Opaque gemstones, then, they can take their case with the Lord Itself. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: Namaste Sri GauravBefore bringing the benefit of all members, it is better to consult a gemologist. Aventurine the word is used for Quartz.Aventurine Feldsper is called Aventurine Feldsper - The word " Feldsper " is always added to it. I hope that you will use your time and effort in more purposeful discoveries. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/25/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bharat Bhaiya et al, I had been re-reading the interesting discussion under the above subject for my knowledge. Therein, you mentioned and I quote " Only the green of quartz family is considered Aventurine. The other gems have wrongly borrowed the term. The deeper the green the better it is for the heart and communication, even when opaque. " To the benefit of all the members who my mistakenly take this for a fact, and with all due respect if I may offer a correction to you, this is completely untrue. Of Aventurine, it comes in three varieties: Feldspar ( the family of moonstone, many may be surprised here), a naturally occurring glass structure ( not to be mixed with aventurian glass or gold stone which is often used as an imitation replacement), and raw quartzite (most abundant and common). This is also not to be mistaken as the prasiolite or " psiolite " or green quartz that is used in ornamental jewelry, which is a far more refined and crystallised form. If I remember, Swee ji had written some excellent mails on it. NamasteGaurav Jain See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . See what's free at AOL.com. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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