questions regarding indications of birth defects

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Hello and best wishes to all.

 

My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

 

Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with the body

part affected indicate such difficulty?

 

As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the heart, would

both ascendant and fourth house ( and their significantors/rulers) show

affliction?

 

Thank you, and again, best wishes.

 

Thomas

[Guest guest]

Dear Thomas,

 

Our general health and well being (constitution) should first be considered

from lagna. If lagna (lagnesh or lagna karaka) is weak, afflicted or

occupying either of the dusthanas associated with disease (6,8) the native

can succumb to various illnesses as indicated by the relative bhavas/grahas.

 

As the sages say, benefic Jupiter occupying lagna (with strength) can ward

off all evil...in this same way strong/unafflicted lagna can ward off the

ill effects due to other planetary afflictions (in regards to physical

well-being).

I think we've all heard it said; " so and so has such a strong constitution,

he never gets sick. "

 

It's said that strong lagna lord, unaspected by malefics, and aspected by

benefics in quadrants, destroys all affliction and provides progressively

increasing prosperity and long life.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Friday, January 11, 2008 3:49 AM

questions regarding indications of birth defects

 

 

Hello and best wishes to all.

 

My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

 

Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with the body

part affected indicate such difficulty?

 

As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the heart, would

both ascendant and fourth house ( and their significantors/rulers) show

affliction?

 

Thank you, and again, best wishes.

 

Thomas

[Guest guest]

Dear Thomas,

 

I had written the following on this some time

back elsewhere-

 

" As a karaka for heart we see the Lord

Sun who is ruler of the sign Leo,

therefor for all charts for heart cases

we would try to check the Sign Leo

for afflictions wherever it may fall.

 

But the 4th house rules chest region for

Men and the Breast region for women,that

is why we say the 4th house in the

individual chart has to be seen,

but simultaneously the sign Leo as

to be checked and so is the 4th Lord

to be checked for the afflictions, and

whether there is any connection with

the 12th Lord too. Any afflictions like

Mars and Rahu may cause surgical intervention. "

 

Also written -

 

"

the Lagna is a strong significator for good health.

If strong and well placed, then generally the health of

native would be fine, and recuperate easily from

any ailment. But -

It is not necessary that the Lagna or Lagnesh has

to be afflicted. Because someone who may be

living Life with good health till 60 years may

suddenly fall ill. In that case You dont find the

lagna afflicted.Check all these in totality.

 

1) The Lagna

2) The Lagnesh

3) The 6th House

4) Any afflicted house

 

For instance,

if You find the 4th House afflicted -

meaning the 4th Lord suppose with Rahu,

Moon debilitated, Sign Leo also having

aspect of Saturn or another malefic placed

there, then one may surmise that native would

suffer from Heart problems sooner or later in

his Life.

 

Or say sign Capricorn afflicted, then one

may understand that sooner or later,the knees

of this person are going to cause problems to

the native.

 

The timing may be seen by the Dasha periods.

Any Mahadasha which allows the 6th,8th or 12th

house to function, would be the period which

would cause the problem. Any antardasha which

would signify any or jointly the above houses

would narrow down the event period. "

 

regards,

 

bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " talljun2 " <talljun2

wrote:

>

> Hello and best wishes to all.

>

> My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

>

> Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with the

body

> part affected indicate such difficulty?

>

> As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the heart,

would

> both ascendant and fourth house ( and their significantors/rulers)

show

> affliction?

>

> Thank you, and again, best wishes.

>

> Thomas

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji

 

If I may add - heart is on left side of the body - so few take even 10th house.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

http://www.vedic-jyotish.net

Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web

 

No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> bhaskar_jyotish

> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:30:52 -0000

> jyotish-vidya

> Re: questions regarding indications of birth

> defects

>

> Dear Thomas,

>

> I had written the following on this some time

> back elsewhere-

>

> " As a karaka for heart we see the Lord

> Sun who is ruler of the sign Leo,

> therefor for all charts for heart cases

> we would try to check the Sign Leo

> for afflictions wherever it may fall.

>

> But the 4th house rules chest region for

> Men and the Breast region for women,that

> is why we say the 4th house in the

> individual chart has to be seen,

> but simultaneously the sign Leo as

> to be checked and so is the 4th Lord

> to be checked for the afflictions, and

> whether there is any connection with

> the 12th Lord too. Any afflictions like

> Mars and Rahu may cause surgical intervention. "

>

> Also written -

>

> "

> the Lagna is a strong significator for good health.

> If strong and well placed, then generally the health of

> native would be fine, and recuperate easily from

> any ailment. But -

> It is not necessary that the Lagna or Lagnesh has

> to be afflicted. Because someone who may be

> living Life with good health till 60 years may

> suddenly fall ill. In that case You dont find the

> lagna afflicted.Check all these in totality.

>

> 1) The Lagna

> 2) The Lagnesh

> 3) The 6th House

> 4) Any afflicted house

>

> For instance,

> if You find the 4th House afflicted -

> meaning the 4th Lord suppose with Rahu,

> Moon debilitated, Sign Leo also having

> aspect of Saturn or another malefic placed

> there, then one may surmise that native would

> suffer from Heart problems sooner or later in

> his Life.

>

> Or say sign Capricorn afflicted, then one

> may understand that sooner or later,the knees

> of this person are going to cause problems to

> the native.

>

> The timing may be seen by the Dasha periods.

> Any Mahadasha which allows the 6th,8th or 12th

> house to function, would be the period which

> would cause the problem. Any antardasha which

> would signify any or jointly the above houses

> would narrow down the event period. "

>

> regards,

>

> bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " talljun2 " <talljun2

> wrote:

>>

>> Hello and best wishes to all.

>>

>> My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

>>

>> Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with the

> body

>> part affected indicate such difficulty?

>>

>> As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the heart,

> would

>> both ascendant and fourth house ( and their significantors/rulers)

> show

>> affliction?

>>

>> Thank you, and again, best wishes.

>>

>> Thomas

>>

 

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Dea Prafullaji,

 

This may be .

I am not aware since not into Medical astrology.

I get scared to delve deep into Medical cases.

 

By analogy of heart being on left side.

For male natives the 2nd house represents the

right eye. So this may fall true for Male natives

if considering the left eye as the 12th house .

But for females this will become opposite.

Does that stand true for heart too ?

No dont think so.

 

Naturally the 4th house signified by Cancer

is the sign which may have affliction alongwith

the Individual Lordships in a Chart.

Which is why we understand the 4th as afflicted

for Heart.

 

The 10th sign is indicator for the Knees as

understood commonly which is why perhaps

we may not have given credence to the 10th for

the heart. But it may be true 1f Mars or Rahu

positioned in 10th are aspecting the 4th or

such type of maladies exist in the chart .

I am not knowledgable about this much.

So this may be possible by all means.

 

regards,

bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

>

> If I may add - heart is on left side of the body - so few take

even 10th house.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

>

> ************************************************

>

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:30:52 -0000

> > jyotish-vidya

> > Re: questions regarding indications of

birth

> > defects

> >

> > Dear Thomas,

> >

> > I had written the following on this some time

> > back elsewhere-

> >

> > " As a karaka for heart we see the Lord

> > Sun who is ruler of the sign Leo,

> > therefor for all charts for heart cases

> > we would try to check the Sign Leo

> > for afflictions wherever it may fall.

> >

> > But the 4th house rules chest region for

> > Men and the Breast region for women,that

> > is why we say the 4th house in the

> > individual chart has to be seen,

> > but simultaneously the sign Leo as

> > to be checked and so is the 4th Lord

> > to be checked for the afflictions, and

> > whether there is any connection with

> > the 12th Lord too. Any afflictions like

> > Mars and Rahu may cause surgical intervention. "

> >

> > Also written -

> >

> > "

> > the Lagna is a strong significator for good health.

> > If strong and well placed, then generally the health of

> > native would be fine, and recuperate easily from

> > any ailment. But -

> > It is not necessary that the Lagna or Lagnesh has

> > to be afflicted. Because someone who may be

> > living Life with good health till 60 years may

> > suddenly fall ill. In that case You dont find the

> > lagna afflicted.Check all these in totality.

> >

> > 1) The Lagna

> > 2) The Lagnesh

> > 3) The 6th House

> > 4) Any afflicted house

> >

> > For instance,

> > if You find the 4th House afflicted -

> > meaning the 4th Lord suppose with Rahu,

> > Moon debilitated, Sign Leo also having

> > aspect of Saturn or another malefic placed

> > there, then one may surmise that native would

> > suffer from Heart problems sooner or later in

> > his Life.

> >

> > Or say sign Capricorn afflicted, then one

> > may understand that sooner or later,the knees

> > of this person are going to cause problems to

> > the native.

> >

> > The timing may be seen by the Dasha periods.

> > Any Mahadasha which allows the 6th,8th or 12th

> > house to function, would be the period which

> > would cause the problem. Any antardasha which

> > would signify any or jointly the above houses

> > would narrow down the event period. "

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " talljun2 " <talljun2@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Hello and best wishes to all.

> >>

> >> My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

> >>

> >> Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with

the

> > body

> >> part affected indicate such difficulty?

> >>

> >> As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the

heart,

> > would

> >> both ascendant and fourth house ( and their

significantors/rulers)

> > show

> >> affliction?

> >>

> >> Thank you, and again, best wishes.

> >>

> >> Thomas

> >>

>

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Hello Prafulla,

 

has many jyotish groups that welcome a myriad of different approaches

and methodologies. However, as stated on our page,

Jyotish-Vidya is first and foremost a " Parashara Discussion Group " .

 

The limbs of Kalapurusha are clearly defined in BPHS:

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch4.htm

 

**4-4 1/2. LIMBS OF KALAPURUSHA:

The time personified has his limbs as under with reference to the 12 signs

respectively: Head, face, arms, heart, stomach, hip, space below navel,

privities, thighs, knees, ankles, and feet.**

 

I would prefer that this group (at least) stay true to its original charter

which is to further the understanding of Vedic astrology as taught by the

great Maharishi Parashara.

 

The Maharishi Jyotish, which is no longer offered to the public as a

structured course but which I was fortunate enough to take in 1988, adheres

to the principles of Parashara in all regards. The information I recieved

from this course, relating to the limbs of Kalapurusha, is reproduced here

(http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm) for the benefit of all who wish learn

more of this wonderful (Parashara) system.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" Prafulla Gang " <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, January 11, 2008 7:34 PM

RE: Re: questions regarding indications of birth

defects

 

 

Dear Bhaskar ji

 

If I may add - heart is on left side of the body - so few take even 10th

house.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web

 

No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

 

************************************************

[Guest guest]

Hello Wendy,

 

Yes - I am aware of Parashara definitions.

 

Many thanks for sharing the URL.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> jyotishvidya

> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:29:33 +0900

> jyotish-vidya

> Re: Re: questions regarding indications of birth

> defects

>

> Hello Prafulla,

>

> has many jyotish groups that welcome a myriad of different

> approaches

> and methodologies. However, as stated on our page,

> Jyotish-Vidya is first and foremost a " Parashara Discussion Group " .

>

> The limbs of Kalapurusha are clearly defined in BPHS:

> http://jyotishvidya.com/ch4.htm

>

> **4-4 1/2. LIMBS OF KALAPURUSHA:

> The time personified has his limbs as under with reference to the 12

> signs

> respectively: Head, face, arms, heart, stomach, hip, space below navel,

> privities, thighs, knees, ankles, and feet.**

>

> I would prefer that this group (at least) stay true to its original

> charter

> which is to further the understanding of Vedic astrology as taught by the

> great Maharishi Parashara.

>

> The Maharishi Jyotish, which is no longer offered to the public as a

> structured course but which I was fortunate enough to take in 1988,

> adheres

> to the principles of Parashara in all regards. The information I recieved

> from this course, relating to the limbs of Kalapurusha, is reproduced

> here

> (http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm) for the benefit of all who wish

> learn

> more of this wonderful (Parashara) system.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, January 11, 2008 7:34 PM

> RE: Re: questions regarding indications of birth

> defects

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

>

> If I may add - heart is on left side of the body - so few take even 10th

> house.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

>

> ************************************************

 

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Dear Bhaskar ji

 

Yes, If I recollect - for female nativity, many refer to different rules. I am

not aware if Sage Parashar defined separate rules for female nativity.

 

Yes - stri jatakam does define few rules.

 

If I may add - it is important to refer D3 for birth defects (read with D1; and

moon rasi chart).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

>

> bhaskar_jyotish

> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:05:40 -0000

> jyotish-vidya

> Re: questions regarding indications of birth

> defects

>

> Dea Prafullaji,

>

> This may be .

> I am not aware since not into Medical astrology.

> I get scared to delve deep into Medical cases.

>

> By analogy of heart being on left side.

> For male natives the 2nd house represents the

> right eye. So this may fall true for Male natives

> if considering the left eye as the 12th house .

> But for females this will become opposite.

> Does that stand true for heart too ?

> No dont think so.

>

> Naturally the 4th house signified by Cancer

> is the sign which may have affliction alongwith

> the Individual Lordships in a Chart.

> Which is why we understand the 4th as afflicted

> for Heart.

>

> The 10th sign is indicator for the Knees as

> understood commonly which is why perhaps

> we may not have given credence to the 10th for

> the heart. But it may be true 1f Mars or Rahu

> positioned in 10th are aspecting the 4th or

> such type of maladies exist in the chart .

> I am not knowledgable about this much.

> So this may be possible by all means.

>

> regards,

> bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Bhaskar ji

>>

>> If I may add - heart is on left side of the body - so few take

> even 10th house.

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them!

>>

>> ************************************************

>>

>>

>>>

>>> bhaskar_jyotish

>>> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:30:52 -0000

>>> jyotish-vidya

>>> Re: questions regarding indications of

> birth

>>> defects

>>>

>>> Dear Thomas,

>>>

>>> I had written the following on this some time

>>> back elsewhere-

>>>

>>> " As a karaka for heart we see the Lord

>>> Sun who is ruler of the sign Leo,

>>> therefor for all charts for heart cases

>>> we would try to check the Sign Leo

>>> for afflictions wherever it may fall.

>>>

>>> But the 4th house rules chest region for

>>> Men and the Breast region for women,that

>>> is why we say the 4th house in the

>>> individual chart has to be seen,

>>> but simultaneously the sign Leo as

>>> to be checked and so is the 4th Lord

>>> to be checked for the afflictions, and

>>> whether there is any connection with

>>> the 12th Lord too. Any afflictions like

>>> Mars and Rahu may cause surgical intervention. "

>>>

>>> Also written -

>>>

>>> "

>>> the Lagna is a strong significator for good health.

>>> If strong and well placed, then generally the health of

>>> native would be fine, and recuperate easily from

>>> any ailment. But -

>>> It is not necessary that the Lagna or Lagnesh has

>>> to be afflicted. Because someone who may be

>>> living Life with good health till 60 years may

>>> suddenly fall ill. In that case You dont find the

>>> lagna afflicted.Check all these in totality.

>>>

>>> 1) The Lagna

>>> 2) The Lagnesh

>>> 3) The 6th House

>>> 4) Any afflicted house

>>>

>>> For instance,

>>> if You find the 4th House afflicted -

>>> meaning the 4th Lord suppose with Rahu,

>>> Moon debilitated, Sign Leo also having

>>> aspect of Saturn or another malefic placed

>>> there, then one may surmise that native would

>>> suffer from Heart problems sooner or later in

>>> his Life.

>>>

>>> Or say sign Capricorn afflicted, then one

>>> may understand that sooner or later,the knees

>>> of this person are going to cause problems to

>>> the native.

>>>

>>> The timing may be seen by the Dasha periods.

>>> Any Mahadasha which allows the 6th,8th or 12th

>>> house to function, would be the period which

>>> would cause the problem. Any antardasha which

>>> would signify any or jointly the above houses

>>> would narrow down the event period. "

>>>

>>> regards,

>>>

>>> bhaskar.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> jyotish-vidya , " talljun2 " <talljun2@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Hello and best wishes to all.

>>>>

>>>> My question concerns indications of birth defects in the chart

>>>>

>>>> Would both the ascendant and the house/planet associated with

> the

>>> body

>>>> part affected indicate such difficulty?

>>>>

>>>> As an example, in the case of a birth defect affecting the

> heart,

>>> would

>>>> both ascendant and fourth house ( and their

> significantors/rulers)

>>> show

>>>> affliction?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you, and again, best wishes.

>>>>

>>>> Thomas

>>>>

>>

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Hello Prafulla,

 

Parashara gives his views here: http://jyotishvidya.com/ch80.htm

 

**2. Maharishi Parasara replied. What a good question! Listen to what I am

going to tell you about the Rashi Kundalis of females. All the effects, that

have been described till now in the case of male horoscopies, will apply to

females also. Matters, relating to her physical appearance, should be

determined from Lagn, those, relating to children, from the 5th Bhava,

fortune for the husband from the 7th and death of the husband (widowhood)

should be deduced from the 8th.

Those effects, which are impossible to ascribe to the female, should be

declared to be applicable to her husband.**

 

The last paragraph (above) suggests that some things, impossible to ascribe

to a female should...etc..

 

However, there are few things in this day and age that are possible (for a

woman) only through her husband. Today women have careers, own businesses,

enter the medical profession, engage in politics and even can rise to the

highest position of president or prime minister.

Parashara instructs us clearly that we should apply the dictums of jyotish

according to the times we live in, the country we live in, and the

individual (Desh, Kala and Patra).

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" Prafulla Gang " <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, January 11, 2008 8:46 PM

RE: Re: questions regarding indications of birth

defects

 

 

Dear Bhaskar ji

 

Yes, If I recollect - for female nativity, many refer to different rules. I

am not aware if Sage Parashar defined separate rules for female nativity.

 

Yes - stri jatakam does define few rules.

 

If I may add - it is important to refer D3 for birth defects (read with D1;

and moon rasi chart).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang