Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Dear Krishna, First: For the sake of members who may not know, here is the basic conversion of ghatis... One day of 24 hours consists of 60 ghatis, each ghati has 60 vighatis.(1 ghati = 24 minutes). ///In my case, I was born just a couple of minutes after the sunrise. The sunrise on that day was at 6:12:06 am. My recorded birth time is 6:15 am. I am trying to rectify my chart and so far it appears that 6:12:54 seems to be more appropriate. Now, to calculate no. of ghatis after sunrise until the time of birth, the softare programs round off it to next higher number - 1 as there is a small fraction. I personally feel that it should be taken as zero as that is closer to reality. Because of this difference, planetary avasthas for all planets get affected./// I know absolutely nothing about how these softwares do their calculations. However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as Hrs.Mins.Secs., I'd imagine any calculations in regards to avasthas (etc) would be calculated in the same manner...??? I do know that PL (for instance) takes great pride in the accuracy of their calculations. I could write and ask them, I suppose, but I don't really like to take up too much of their time. ///Also, could you kindly give the list of avastas for me as given by PL(assuming 6:12:54 as birth time). I want to verify it with what I am getting using JHora./// According to PL, the avasthas remain unchanged whether using 06:15 or 06:12:54. The Nodes however do change according to True or Mean Node. With 'True Node' Rahu's avastha is kautuk (for both times) whereas 'Mean Node' gives Netrap avastha (for both times). ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// According to my copy of BPHS (translation by R. Santhanam), Rahu in upavesha simply states that the native will be distressed due to ulcers, devoid of financial happiness etc.. But let's put aside the avasthas for a moment and just consider Rahu in the various houses. Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with skin disease...Mercury governs skin particularly. http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm ///If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in Netrapani avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha./// Second house occupied by True Node governs all organs of face and neck. (including eyes) Note 2nd lord Mercury's nakshatra lord (Ketu) in 8th. (vulnerable point) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:57 PM Question about planetary avastas Dear Wendy, Though there are software programs that calculate planetary avastas, I am a bit vary of them when things like rounding-off is involved in the calculations, specially in some border cases. In my case, I was born just a couple of minutes after the sunrise. The sunrise on that day was at 6:12:06 am. My recorded birth time is 6:15 am. I am trying to rectify my chart and so far it appears that 6:12:54 seems to be more appropriate. Now, to calculate no. of ghatis after sunrise until the time of birth, the softare programs round off it to next higher number - 1 as there is a small fraction. I personally feel that it should be taken as zero as that is closer to reality. Because of this difference, planetary avasthas for all planets get affected. When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up. If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in Netrapani avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha. As I understand, the result of the planetary avastas are experienced in the first quater of the MD of that planet (for malefic planets). With this, I conclude that taking ghatis as zero is the correct approach in my case. Do you agree with my logic? Also, could you kindly give the list of avastas for me as given by PL(assuming 6:12:54 as birth time). I want to verify it with what I am getting using JHora. Thanks in advance. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 PS: Although the avasthas assist greatly in determining the results due to the grahas, it's important not to lose sight of the horoscope as a whole. We need (always) to use our own common-sense... _______ Dear Krishna, First: For the sake of members who may not know, here is the basic conversion of ghatis... One day of 24 hours consists of 60 ghatis, each ghati has 60 vighatis.(1 ghati = 24 minutes). ///In my case, I was born just a couple of minutes after the sunrise. The sunrise on that day was at 6:12:06 am. My recorded birth time is 6:15 am. I am trying to rectify my chart and so far it appears that 6:12:54 seems to be more appropriate. Now, to calculate no. of ghatis after sunrise until the time of birth, the softare programs round off it to next higher number - 1 as there is a small fraction. I personally feel that it should be taken as zero as that is closer to reality. Because of this difference, planetary avasthas for all planets get affected./// I know absolutely nothing about how these softwares do their calculations. However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as Hrs.Mins.Secs., I'd imagine any calculations in regards to avasthas (etc) would be calculated in the same manner...??? I do know that PL (for instance) takes great pride in the accuracy of their calculations. I could write and ask them, I suppose, but I don't really like to take up too much of their time. ///Also, could you kindly give the list of avastas for me as given by PL(assuming 6:12:54 as birth time). I want to verify it with what I am getting using JHora./// According to PL, the avasthas remain unchanged whether using 06:15 or 06:12:54. The Nodes however do change according to True or Mean Node. With 'True Node' Rahu's avastha is kautuk (for both times) whereas 'Mean Node' gives Netrap avastha (for both times). ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// According to my copy of BPHS (translation by R. Santhanam), Rahu in upavesha simply states that the native will be distressed due to ulcers, devoid of financial happiness etc.. But let's put aside the avasthas for a moment and just consider Rahu in the various houses. Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with skin disease...Mercury governs skin particularly. http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm ///If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in Netrapani avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha./// Second house occupied by True Node governs all organs of face and neck. (including eyes) Note 2nd lord Mercury's nakshatra lord (Ketu) in 8th. (vulnerable point) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Dear Wendy, Thanks for your note. I was quoting from G C Sharma's translation of BHPS. So, it appears that there is quite a difference in the translations. As I have not studied Sanskrit, I have to depend on the translations only :-( //However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as Hrs.Mins.Secs. , I'd imagine any calculations in regards to avasthas (etc) would be calculated in the same manner...???// Let me explain. One of the parameters required to identify planetary avastas is the number of ghatis passed from Sun rise until the time of birth. In my case, it is not even a minute considering the birth time to be 6:12:54 and the Sun rise to be 6:12:06, 48 seconds to be exact. The actual number of ghatis passed = 48/60/24 = 0.033333 ghatis. This is required to be rounded off to an integer to find the avastas. Most software programs round it off to the next higher integer as 1 ghati. My argument was that it should be considered as 0 ghatis instead. That is where the difference arises. Hope I have explained clearly. In any case, I could calculate the avastas using 0 ghatis mannually. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > PS: Although the avasthas assist greatly in determining the > results due to > the grahas, it's important not to lose sight of the horoscope > as a whole. We > need (always) to use our own common-sense... > _______ > > Dear Krishna, > > First: For the sake of members who may not know, here is the > basic > conversion of ghatis... > One day of 24 hours consists of 60 ghatis, each ghati has 60 > vighatis.(1 > ghati = 24 minutes). > > ///In my case, I was born just a couple of minutes after the > sunrise. The sunrise on that day was at 6:12:06 am. My > recorded > birth time is 6:15 am. I am trying to rectify my chart and so > far it appears that 6:12:54 seems to be more appropriate. Now, > to calculate no. of ghatis after sunrise until the time of > birth, the softare programs round off it to next higher number > - > 1 as there is a small fraction. I personally feel that it > should > be taken as zero as that is closer to reality. Because of this > difference, planetary avasthas for all planets get > affected./// > > I know absolutely nothing about how these softwares do their > calculations. > However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as > Hrs.Mins.Secs., I'd > imagine any calculations in regards to avasthas (etc) would be > calculated in > the same manner...??? > I do know that PL (for instance) takes great pride in the > accuracy of their > calculations. I could write and ask them, I suppose, but I > don't really like > to take up too much of their time. > > ///Also, could you kindly give the list of avastas for me as > given > by PL(assuming 6:12:54 as birth time). I want to verify it > with > what I am getting using JHora./// > > According to PL, the avasthas remain unchanged whether using > 06:15 or > 06:12:54. The Nodes however do change according to True or > Mean > Node. With 'True Node' Rahu's avastha is kautuk (for both > times) whereas > 'Mean Node' gives Netrap avastha (for both times). > > ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun > rise, I > get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the > native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I > did > have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu > dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// > > According to my copy of BPHS (translation by R. Santhanam), > Rahu in upavesha > simply states that the native will be distressed due to > ulcers, devoid of > financial happiness etc.. > But let's put aside the avasthas for a moment and just > consider Rahu in the > various houses. Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), > and, as we > know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with > skin > disease...Mercury governs skin particularly. > http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > > ///If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in > Netrapani > avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native > get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both > eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha./// > > Second house occupied by True Node governs all organs of face > and neck. > (including eyes) Note 2nd lord Mercury's nakshatra lord (Ketu) > in 8th. > (vulnerable point) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Dear Krishna, Thank you! Obviously my fingers were engaged but the brain lagging behind as usual... However, besides that: I've just had a look at my (bookshelf) copy of BPHS and see in Santhanam's notes that some translators, in relation to below text, interpret the word 'Amsa' as degree occupied by the planet. He gives Balabhadra's Hora Ratna as the authority supporting Amsa as the correct interpretation. *Note the number of the stars (from Aswini) occupied by the planet for which Avastha is to be calculated. Multiply that number by the number denoted by the planet (Sun 1, Moon 2, etc.). The figure so arrived at be again multiplied by the number of Navamsa the planet is in. Add to this the number of birth asterism, the number of ghatis of birth and the number of signs the ascendant gained from Aries. This figure be divided by 12 and the remainder will indicate the corresponding Avastha of the planet.* As you've pointed out already, there is some discrepancy in the interpretation of the avasthas themselves (between the different translations of Parashara). I'm wondering therefore if there isn't also a discrepancy in the method of calculation? If you'd care to compare I'll give the avasthas for both times (using Mean Node as it seems this is your preferance). SUN Prakash, MOON Gaman, MARS Agam, MERCURY Netrap, JUPITER Sabha, VENUS Kautuk, SATURN Kautuk, RAHU Netrap, KETU Agam. As I said earlier, the avasthas are the same for both times (06:15 and 06:12:54) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:25 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Dear Wendy, Thanks for your note. I was quoting from G C Sharma's translation of BHPS. So, it appears that there is quite a difference in the translations. As I have not studied Sanskrit, I have to depend on the translations only :-( //However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as Hrs.Mins.Secs. , I'd imagine any calculations in regards to avasthas (etc) would be calculated in the same manner...???// Let me explain. One of the parameters required to identify planetary avastas is the number of ghatis passed from Sun rise until the time of birth. In my case, it is not even a minute considering the birth time to be 6:12:54 and the Sun rise to be 6:12:06, 48 seconds to be exact. The actual number of ghatis passed = 48/60/24 = 0.033333 ghatis. This is required to be rounded off to an integer to find the avastas. Most software programs round it off to the next higher integer as 1 ghati. My argument was that it should be considered as 0 ghatis instead. That is where the difference arises. Hope I have explained clearly. In any case, I could calculate the avastas using 0 ghatis mannually. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Wendy, The steps to determine avastahas is exactly the same in Sharma's translation also. Thank God there is unanimity here! And, I compared the avastas given in your mail to the ones given by JHora. Everything matches except Guru's. JHora gives the avastha of Guru as " Agam " while PL gives it as " Sabha " . I tried to dig to see the reason. JHora gives Swati (pada 1) as the nakshatra of Guru, where as another software gives Chitra (pada 4) as Guru's nakshatra. I guess PL also gives it as Chitra. Because of this, even navamsha of Guru will be different. Hence, the difference in the end result. This prompted me to take a close look at Guru and my Guru MD. So far, my Guru MD was exceptionally good for me - Completed education in one of the top univeristies, got a good job even before my final exams, got married, had two daughters, traveled all over the world, raised to good heights in career, earned good money (more than what I ever imagined as I am from a financially weak family. When I joined engineering my father had already retired from Govt. service and with great difficulty he took care of my engg. expenses from his pension and selling some of my mother's jewellary). And, all this with only moderate efforts. Hence, I would assume that the nakshatra Chitra (owner yogakaraka Mars) would be the right one. At the same time, I notice that Guru is in Marana Karaka Sthana in Rasi (and in enemy's house) and in Gandantha in Navamsa. Guru also owns a dusthana (8th) in Rasi. With all these negative factors associated with Guru, I wonder how did I get great results during Guru MD. Was it just because of good nakshatra lord? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > Thank you! Obviously my fingers were engaged but the brain > lagging behind as > usual... > > However, besides that: > I've just had a look at my (bookshelf) copy of BPHS and see in > Santhanam's > notes that some translators, in relation to below text, > interpret the word > 'Amsa' as degree occupied by the planet. He gives Balabhadra's > Hora Ratna as > the authority supporting Amsa as the correct interpretation. > > *Note the number of the stars (from Aswini) occupied by the > planet for which > Avastha is to be calculated. Multiply that number by the > number denoted by > the planet (Sun 1, Moon 2, etc.). The figure so arrived at be > again > multiplied by the number of Navamsa the planet is in. Add to > this the number > of birth asterism, the number of ghatis of birth and the > number of signs the > ascendant gained from Aries. This figure be divided by 12 and > the remainder > will indicate the corresponding Avastha of the planet.* > > As you've pointed out already, there is some discrepancy in > the > interpretation of the avasthas themselves (between the > different > translations of Parashara). I'm wondering therefore if there > isn't also a > discrepancy in the method of calculation? > > If you'd care to compare I'll give the avasthas for both times > (using Mean > Node as it seems this is your preferance). > > SUN Prakash, MOON Gaman, MARS Agam, MERCURY Netrap, JUPITER > Sabha, VENUS > Kautuk, SATURN Kautuk, RAHU Netrap, KETU Agam. > > As I said earlier, the avasthas are the same for both times > (06:15 and > 06:12:54) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:25 PM > Re: Question about planetary avastas > > > Dear Wendy, > > Thanks for your note. I was quoting from G C Sharma's > translation of BHPS. So, it appears that there is quite a > difference in the translations. As I have not studied > Sanskrit, > I have to depend on the translations only :-( > > //However, as the T.O.B. is entered into the program as > Hrs.Mins.Secs. , I'd imagine any calculations in regards to > avasthas (etc) would be calculated in the same manner...???// > > Let me explain. One of the parameters required to identify > planetary avastas is the number of ghatis passed from Sun rise > until the time of birth. In my case, it is not even a minute > considering the birth time to be 6:12:54 and the Sun rise to > be > 6:12:06, 48 seconds to be exact. The actual number of ghatis > passed = 48/60/24 = 0.033333 ghatis. This is required to be > rounded off to an integer to find the avastas. Most software > programs round it off to the next higher integer as 1 ghati. > My > argument was that it should be considered as 0 ghatis instead. > That is where the difference arises. > > Hope I have explained clearly. > > In any case, I could calculate the avastas using 0 ghatis > mannually. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Krishna, //With all these negative factors associated with Guru, I wonder how did I get great results during Guru MD. Was it just because of good nakshatra lord?// As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, it's a huge mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it has a huge say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest. If my memory serves me we discussed your educational achievements previously. Do you recall me asking if your post graduate was done on campus (something of that nature, I can't remember precisely now as it was a while ago). But I do recall we discussed this in relation to Rahu's position in 2nd house of education...Rahu, in nakshatra of 9th lord Mars, is disposited by intellectual Mercury; Note, some sages consider Rahu to be exalted in Virgo. I think possibly you were running JU/RA dasa at the time...perhaps you could send the relative dates again as I seem to not have this on file anymore. There are other strong indications for True Node in your chart as I spoke of in earlier post: Earlier Post: *Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with skin disease...Mercury governs skin particularly.* *Second house occupied by True Node governs all organs of face and neck. (including eyes) Note 2nd lord Mercury's nakshatra lord (Ketu) in 8th. (vulnerable point)* You Wrote: ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// ///If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in Netrapani avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha./// Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:17 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Dear Wendy, The steps to determine avastahas is exactly the same in Sharma's translation also. Thank God there is unanimity here! And, I compared the avastas given in your mail to the ones given by JHora. Everything matches except Guru's. JHora gives the avastha of Guru as " Agam " while PL gives it as " Sabha " . I tried to dig to see the reason. JHora gives Swati (pada 1) as the nakshatra of Guru, where as another software gives Chitra (pada 4) as Guru's nakshatra. I guess PL also gives it as Chitra. Because of this, even navamsha of Guru will be different. Hence, the difference in the end result. This prompted me to take a close look at Guru and my Guru MD. So far, my Guru MD was exceptionally good for me - Completed education in one of the top univeristies, got a good job even before my final exams, got married, had two daughters, traveled all over the world, raised to good heights in career, earned good money (more than what I ever imagined as I am from a financially weak family. When I joined engineering my father had already retired from Govt. service and with great difficulty he took care of my engg. expenses from his pension and selling some of my mother's jewellary). And, all this with only moderate efforts. Hence, I would assume that the nakshatra Chitra (owner yogakaraka Mars) would be the right one. At the same time, I notice that Guru is in Marana Karaka Sthana in Rasi (and in enemy's house) and in Gandantha in Navamsa. Guru also owns a dusthana (8th) in Rasi. With all these negative factors associated with Guru, I wonder how did I get great results during Guru MD. Was it just because of good nakshatra lord? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Wendy ji, ///As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, it's a huge mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it has a huge say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest./// This reminds me of a chart I saw a long time ago. My memory is not strong concerning this chart, but the Lagna was Kumba, and in dasa of Sukra, who was placed in his own house in the 4th, the native got ulcers! This was becasue Sukra was in Rohini, owned by 6th lord Chandra. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Wendy, //As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, it's a huge mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it has a huge say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest.// I am fully convinced about this factor now. Not just because of this particular case. Recently, I spent some time studying longevity with special emphasis on nakshatra lords. I find that nakshatra lords are pulling the strings. I think this is a very valuable lesson that I got from YOU Wendy :-)) Thanks! //*Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with skin disease...Mercury governs skin particularly.*// Yes you said this earlier. However, I don't have any specific ailment of skin. I have short sight and I wear spectacles. That could be due to Rahu's position in the second house. I also suffer from pain in my shoulders and arms (some kind of weakness of muscles/nerves in that area. I should be careful not to strain my soulders and fingers. Is Rahu influencing both 2nd and third houses, being at the border? //But I do recall we discussed this in relation to Rahu's position in 2nd house of education...Rahu, in nakshatra of 9th lord Mars, is disposited by intellectual Mercury; Note, some sages consider Rahu to be exalted in Virgo. I think possibly you were running JU/RA dasa at the time...perhaps you could send the relative dates again as I seem to not have this on file anymore.// 2nd house in general should be looked for the entire education or only upto high school level? Other inputs I have is: 9th house should be looked at for university education and 2nd house for schooling and also for PhD. Is this correct? Some of my dates w.r.t education are as follows: Rahu-Venus: Joined Engineering college. Performed only above average in the first year, and then improved from there later on. Rahu-Sun: Did well, was in top 10 for the university Rahu-Moon: Did even better, consolidated my position further and stayed within top 3 for the university. Even Moon is is the nakshatra of yogakaraka Mars. This has helped in spite of moon being the 12th lord. Rahu-Mars: Completed the course as university topper, securing 1st rank in the last two semesters. Joined post graduaction course and stayed on campus. Jup-Jup: Stayed on campus and completed post-graduation. Joined my first job. Between Aug. 1980 until early 1982, I stayed on campus. In one of the previous mails you indicated that, the reason for this was Rahu's transit of the 12th house during this period. No doubt, Mars as the nakshatra lord for Rahu, Guru and Moon has played a fantastic role in my life so far. It is even aspecting my current MD lord Saturn and also disposits Saturn. That could be the reason why my Saturn MD is not bad, though may not be as good as my Jup MD. Now, I have to struggle more and face delays to achieve something as compared to my Jupter MD. When I step into Mercury MD, hope things will be as good, as my Yogakaraka Mars aspects Mercury with full power :-) Only question is will it overcome the influence of nakshatra lord Ketu? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //With all these negative factors associated with Guru, I > wonder how did I > get great > results during Guru MD. Was it just because of good nakshatra > lord?// > > As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, > it's a huge > mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it > has a huge > say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest. > > If my memory serves me we discussed your educational > achievements > previously. Do you recall me asking if your post graduate was > done on campus > (something of that nature, I can't remember precisely now as > it was a while > ago). But I do recall we discussed this in relation to Rahu's > position in > 2nd house of education...Rahu, in nakshatra of 9th lord Mars, > is disposited > by intellectual Mercury; Note, some sages consider Rahu to be > exalted in > Virgo. I think possibly you were running JU/RA dasa at the > time...perhaps > you could send the relative dates again as I seem to not have > this on file > anymore. > > There are other strong indications for True Node in your chart > as I spoke of > in earlier post: > > Earlier Post: > *Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we > know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with > skin > disease...Mercury governs skin particularly.* > > *Second house occupied by True Node governs all organs of face > and neck. > (including eyes) Note 2nd lord Mercury's nakshatra lord (Ketu) > in 8th. > (vulnerable point)* > > You Wrote: > ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun > rise, I > get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the > native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I > did > have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu > dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// > > ///If I take the ghatis passed as 1, then Rahu will be in > Netrapani > avastaha. For this BHPS says - " ...both the eys of the native > get afflicted with disese... " . I developed short-sight in both > eyes towards the end of Rahu dasha./// > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:17 PM > Re: Question about planetary avastas > > > Dear Wendy, > > The steps to determine avastahas is exactly the same in > Sharma's > translation also. Thank God there is unanimity here! > > And, I compared the avastas given in your mail to the ones > given > by JHora. Everything matches except Guru's. JHora gives the > avastha of Guru as " Agam " while PL gives it as " Sabha " . I > tried > to dig to see the reason. JHora gives Swati (pada 1) as the > nakshatra of Guru, where as another software gives Chitra > (pada > 4) as Guru's nakshatra. I guess PL also gives it as Chitra. > Because of this, even navamsha of Guru will be different. > Hence, > the difference in the end result. > > This prompted me to take a close look at Guru and my Guru MD. > So > far, my Guru MD was exceptionally good for me - Completed > education in one of the top univeristies, got a good job even > before my final exams, got married, had two daughters, > traveled > all over the world, raised to good heights in career, earned > good money (more than what I ever imagined as I am from a > financially weak family. When I joined engineering my father > had > already retired from Govt. service and with great difficulty > he > took care of my engg. expenses from his pension and selling > some > of my mother's jewellary). And, all this with only moderate > efforts. Hence, I would assume that the nakshatra Chitra > (owner > yogakaraka Mars) would be the right one. > > At the same time, I notice that Guru is in Marana Karaka > Sthana > in Rasi (and in enemy's house) and in Gandantha in Navamsa. > Guru > also owns a dusthana (8th) in Rasi. With all these negative > factors associated with Guru, I wonder how did I get great > results during Guru MD. Was it just because of good nakshatra > lord? > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Balaji, Another example that may help to verify the significance of nakshatra lord: As you know my current dasa lord (Mercury) sits in nakshatra of Moon who's dispositor is afflicted in 8th. For the last few years I've battled to raise my red blood cell count above 46... has been as low as 16. Normal levels are between 120-150. Moon's Sapta Dhatu is Blood... http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm So yes, nakshatra lord is extremely important! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:06 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Wendy ji, ///As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, it's a huge mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it has a huge say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest./// This reminds me of a chart I saw a long time ago. My memory is not strong concerning this chart, but the Lagna was Kumba, and in dasa of Sukra, who was placed in his own house in the 4th, the native got ulcers! This was becasue Sukra was in Rohini, owned by 6th lord Chandra. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Krishna, ///Yes you said this earlier. However, I don't have any specific ailment of skin./// I'm a little confused here Krishna. Did you not write the following? ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// Rahu is an indicator of skin disease - see here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm And, of course, Mercury's Sapta Dhatu is skin. ///I also suffer from pain in my shoulders and arms (some kind of weakness of muscles/nerves in that area. I should be careful not to strain my soulders and fingers./// Note; 3rd lord inimicably placed in lagna. It would be helpful to know when this problem manifested. ///2nd house in general should be looked for the entire education or only upto high school level? Other inputs I have is: 9th house should be looked at for university education and 2nd house for schooling and also for PhD. Is this correct?/// Rahu in 2nd occupies nakshatra of 4th/9th lord Mars who, in turn, aspects 2nd lord (in lagna) as well as 4th and 5th bhavas. Obtaining degree (PhD etc) is seen from 4th (ultimate results of undertakings) whilst 5th shows intelligence per se. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:05 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Dear Wendy, //As I've tried to point out time and time again on this list, it's a huge mistake to underestimate the importance of nakshatra lord...it has a huge say on how Jupiter (or any planet) will manifest.// I am fully convinced about this factor now. Not just because of this particular case. Recently, I spent some time studying longevity with special emphasis on nakshatra lords. I find that nakshatra lords are pulling the strings. I think this is a very valuable lesson that I got from YOU Wendy :-)) Thanks! //*Using True Node, Rahu falls in Virgo (in 2nd), and, as we know, both Rahu and his dispositor Mercury are associated with skin disease...Mercury governs skin particularly.*// Yes you said this earlier. However, I don't have any specific ailment of skin. I have short sight and I wear spectacles. That could be due to Rahu's position in the second house. I also suffer from pain in my shoulders and arms (some kind of weakness of muscles/nerves in that area. I should be careful not to strain my soulders and fingers. Is Rahu influencing both 2nd and third houses, being at the border? //But I do recall we discussed this in relation to Rahu's position in 2nd house of education...Rahu, in nakshatra of 9th lord Mars, is disposited by intellectual Mercury; Note, some sages consider Rahu to be exalted in Virgo. I think possibly you were running JU/RA dasa at the time...perhaps you could send the relative dates again as I seem to not have this on file anymore.// 2nd house in general should be looked for the entire education or only upto high school level? Other inputs I have is: 9th house should be looked at for university education and 2nd house for schooling and also for PhD. Is this correct? Some of my dates w.r.t education are as follows: Rahu-Venus: Joined Engineering college. Performed only above average in the first year, and then improved from there later on. Rahu-Sun: Did well, was in top 10 for the university Rahu-Moon: Did even better, consolidated my position further and stayed within top 3 for the university. Even Moon is is the nakshatra of yogakaraka Mars. This has helped in spite of moon being the 12th lord. Rahu-Mars: Completed the course as university topper, securing 1st rank in the last two semesters. Joined post graduaction course and stayed on campus. Jup-Jup: Stayed on campus and completed post-graduation. Joined my first job. Between Aug. 1980 until early 1982, I stayed on campus. In one of the previous mails you indicated that, the reason for this was Rahu's transit of the 12th house during this period. No doubt, Mars as the nakshatra lord for Rahu, Guru and Moon has played a fantastic role in my life so far. It is even aspecting my current MD lord Saturn and also disposits Saturn. That could be the reason why my Saturn MD is not bad, though may not be as good as my Jup MD. Now, I have to struggle more and face delays to achieve something as compared to my Jupter MD. When I step into Mercury MD, hope things will be as good, as my Yogakaraka Mars aspects Mercury with full power :-) Only question is will it overcome the influence of nakshatra lord Ketu? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Dear Krishna, You Wrote: ///I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// BTW, contrary to what the name suggests, ringworm (also known as tinea) is a fungal skin disease...has nothing to do with worms :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:24 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Dear Krishna, ///Yes you said this earlier. However, I don't have any specific ailment of skin./// I'm a little confused here Krishna. Did you not write the following? ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun rise, I get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// Rahu is an indicator of skin disease - see here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm And, of course, Mercury's Sapta Dhatu is skin. ///I also suffer from pain in my shoulders and arms (some kind of weakness of muscles/nerves in that area. I should be careful not to strain my soulders and fingers./// Note; 3rd lord inimicably placed in lagna. It would be helpful to know when this problem manifested. ///2nd house in general should be looked for the entire education or only upto high school level? Other inputs I have is: 9th house should be looked at for university education and 2nd house for schooling and also for PhD. Is this correct?/// Rahu in 2nd occupies nakshatra of 4th/9th lord Mars who, in turn, aspects 2nd lord (in lagna) as well as 4th and 5th bhavas. Obtaining degree (PhD etc) is seen from 4th (ultimate results of undertakings) whilst 5th shows intelligence per se. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Dear Wendy, I am very very sorry for the confusion created by me. Probably it was some kind of lack of co-ordination between my input devices and my CPU :-( All the while when I was writing about my 'Ring worm' problem, actually I was writing about my 'Round worm' problem. I did not realizee my mistake until I saw your mail below. I feel very embarrased, I am very sorry for this mix up. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > You Wrote: > ///I did have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy > (early Rahu > dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// > > BTW, contrary to what the name suggests, ringworm (also known > as tinea) is a > fungal skin disease...has nothing to do with worms :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > - > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:24 PM > Re: Question about planetary avastas > > > Dear Krishna, > > ///Yes you said this earlier. However, I don't have any > specific ailment of > skin./// > > I'm a little confused here Krishna. Did you not write the > following? > > ///When I take zero as the no. of ghatis passed after Sun > rise, I > get Upavesha avastha for Rahu. For this, BHPS says - " ... the > native will be afflicted with the disease of Ringworm... " . I > did > have lot of problem with ring worms as a small boy (early Rahu > dasha). It disappeared gradually as I grew up./// > > Rahu is an indicator of skin disease - see here: > http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > And, of course, Mercury's Sapta Dhatu is skin. > > ///I also suffer from pain in my shoulders and arms (some kind > of weakness > of muscles/nerves in that area. I should be careful not to > strain my > soulders and fingers./// > > Note; 3rd lord inimicably placed in lagna. It would be helpful > to know when > this problem manifested. > > ///2nd house in general should be looked for the entire > education > or only upto high school level? Other inputs I have is: 9th > house should be looked at for university education and 2nd > house > for schooling and also for PhD. Is this correct?/// > > Rahu in 2nd occupies nakshatra of 4th/9th lord Mars who, in > turn, aspects > 2nd lord (in lagna) as well as 4th and 5th bhavas. Obtaining > degree (PhD > etc) is seen from 4th (ultimate results of undertakings) > whilst 5th shows > intelligence per se. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Dear Krishna, No need to feel embarrassed at all! It's good that we cleared this up :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:02 PM Re: Question about planetary avastas Dear Wendy, I am very very sorry for the confusion created by me. Probably it was some kind of lack of co-ordination between my input devices and my CPU :-( All the while when I was writing about my 'Ring worm' problem, actually I was writing about my 'Round worm' problem. I did not realizee my mistake until I saw your mail below. I feel very embarrased, I am very sorry for this mix up. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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