Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dear Balaji, The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, 1949, 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China. You might also like to take a look at the chart for Burma. Jan 4, 1948, 4:20 am, Rangoon, Burma Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:54 PM China Quake Hi, Does anybody have China's chart? Would be good to look at it in view of the quake. At first look, it is interesting to note Chandra conjunct Ketu while Neecha Bhoomi Karaka Kuja occupies star of Sani, who in turn is in star of Ketu. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3094 (20080512) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, thanks for sharing the info, I was wondering on PRC as a possible entity only else except HK most of china was never ruled by any invador and a flourishing early civilisation has largely been on its own and its only subjudication is communism sadly it is good they r comming out of it most of wordl trade centered around India, china till the LAST 200 years and it is again coming back a full circle to them Thanks On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Balaji, > > The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, > 1949, > 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China. > > You might also like to take a look at the chart for Burma. > Jan 4, 1948, 4:20 am, Rangoon, Burma > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ > > - > " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji<sherlockbalaji%40> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:54 PM > China Quake > > Hi, > > Does anybody have China's chart? Would be good to look > at it in view of the quake. > > At first look, it is interesting to note Chandra > conjunct Ketu while Neecha Bhoomi Karaka Kuja occupies > star of Sani, who in turn is in star of Ketu. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 3094 (20080512) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 PS: You might find the following information useful. Earthquakes in China: Sep 27, 1290 (100.000 deaths), Jan 24, 1556 (830.000 deaths), Dec 16, 1920 (200.000 deaths), Mar 16, 1925 (5.000 deaths), May 22, 1927 (200.000 deaths), Dec 25, 1932 (70.000 deaths), Jan 4, 1970 (10.000 deaths), Jul 27, 1976 (255.000 deaths), Nov 6, 1988 (1.000 deaths), Feb 3, 1996 (300 deaths), Jan 10, 1998 (50 deaths), Feb 24, 2003 (261 deaths). I've had a brief look at both charts and find 10th house revealing. China, of course, is under the rule of communism. The aspect of SA/MA on 10th lord Venus is worth noting... Communism, as we know, is a signification of Saturn and, no doubt, this ruling party has a reputation of violence. Also it's not surprising to find Burma (Mars in 10th) under military rulership since the coup d'état Mar 2 1962. __ Dear Balaji, The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, 1949, 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China. You might also like to take a look at the chart for Burma. Jan 4, 1948, 4:20 am, Rangoon, Burma Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:54 PM China Quake Hi, Does anybody have China's chart? Would be good to look at it in view of the quake. At first look, it is interesting to note Chandra conjunct Ketu while Neecha Bhoomi Karaka Kuja occupies star of Sani, who in turn is in star of Ketu. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Wendy ji, ///The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, 1949, 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China./// Thanks. Will have a look. BTW, what is the Lagna you are getting? ///Communism, as we know, is a signification of Saturn/// I have always felt that democracy is Sani's forte--equality. Of course, communism also involves equality to an extent... ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Wendy ji, ///As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism./// I agree. Then, who rules democracy? Free speech is critical to democracy. So, can we say that Budha is more aligned with democracy? BTW, thanks for giving me China's Lagna. I will look at this chart soon, in context of the Olympics, the virus that is attacking children, and the quake. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear List, In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy. (the form of government; we know there are other forms of governments in vogue.) Saturn represents all forms of democratic istitutions so far as politics is concerned. Further Saturn represents labour class in general and allied issues pertaining to it namely strikes discontentment and revolution. Moon represents the commonman or the people in general. In a democractic setup, ultimately the commonman elects the representatives and they form a setup that is known as democracy. Mars represents the Dictatorship (form of government) ruled by commanders for example the Saddam and Iraq. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Krishna, > > Thank you for your input :-) > > In regards to Saturn, I should also mention (before it slips my mind again) > his association with trade unions / labor. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I have been noticing the pressure on you, by these constant queries, but unfortunately could not contribute, because i have not even any basic knowledge on mundane astrology. I also appreciate that you are handling these so well through your replies, and was in fact wondering how you could do this much of spending time and efforts. This is really laudable. There is one person here in our group, who does predict earthquakes , landslides, terrorist activities, and such infernelia on and off on the forums, but he does not mention any specific countries or dates, he just gives the names of continents and broad dated long span periods which can be connected to any event hapenning anywhere in the world. Yet I hope he comes up with some technical information if he has any, and guide us on how to predict natural disasters and pointers in mundane astrology. I will not take his name for obvious reasons. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Vic, > > //Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner:// > > First let me congratulate you on your effort...very good by the way! > Unfortunately there are very few here prepared to put themselves forward by > offering their own thoughts on topics under discussion and thus contributing > to the knowledge of the group. This puts a heavy load on the few > contributors prepared to give back to the group. I'm grateful therefore for > your contribution :-) > > //USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions.// > > Looking at the USA chart, the Kshatriya (warrior) influence is quite > telling. America was in fact engaged in war with Great Britain at the time > of the declaration of independence (1776)... The American Revolution > (1775-1783). > > This was followed by; > The Franco-American Naval Way (1798-1800) > The Barbary Wars (1801-1805; 1815) > The War of 1812 (1812-1815) > The Creek (Indian) War (1813-1814) > The War of Texas (1836) > The Mexican War (1846-1848) > The Civil War (1861-1865) > The Spanish-American War (1898) > World War 1 (1914-1918) > World War 2 (1939-1945) > The Korean War (1950-1953) > The Vietnam War (1960-1975) > The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) > Grenada (1983) > Invasion of Panama (1989) > The Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) > Intervention Bosnia/Herzegovina (1995-1996) > Invasion of Iraq (2003) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Vic D " <vicdicara > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:32 AM > Re: Re: China Quake > > > Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner: > > > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN > > in 7th. > > > USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions. > > > > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > > SUN in > > 3rd. > > India has an earthy-shudra/ female/ peace-love sign with powerful > planets in the 3rd house (literature) which means it should be a > country that produces great literature for the upliftment of humanity > (vedas) > > > > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign > > of Leo. > > China has an earthy-shudra/ female/ harmful but ambitious sign with > it's most important planet all alone in the house of death. This means > it should be a country that has a lot of difficulties, which works > hard without much pleasurable results for it's people. It might also > mean that it meets an untimely demise. It is effectively the servant > of other countries. It does not do well in negotiation or diplomacy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Kishoreji, 1) I have no friends on the Internet world. 2) I am a stauch Hindu and not related to any converters. 3) I am not interested in who is targetting whom and where. 4) I can deal well with those who target Vedic groups and show them the dust,but I should be aware who I am dealing withh, for ex. We do not know you , by contact no.place or city of residence and occupations, so we never know whom to believe or whom not to. In such cases my moves would not be known to you, unless we are working hand in hand to wipe off this meance. 5) Crimes done, have to be paid for some day or the other. Mr. Prashant Kumar, if he is targetted then, I am sorry, but I cannot help him, He has never helped me whenever I was targetted on so many occasions, but yet if he approaches me, I will support him and oppose his tormentors. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Bhaskarji, > > your friends are now active in Vedic astrology group and they are targetting > one Mr Prashant Kumar. If you know it, Lalit is a converted Christian and he > is targetting the Vedic astrology groups one by one. > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > wrote: > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > I have been noticing the pressure > > on you, by these constant queries, but > > unfortunately could not contribute, because > > i have not even any basic knowledge > > on mundane astrology. I also appreciate > > that you are handling these so well > > through your replies, and was in fact > > wondering how you could do this much of > > spending time and efforts. This is really > > laudable. > > > > There is one person here in our group, who > > does predict earthquakes , landslides, terrorist > > activities, and such infernelia on and off > > on the forums, but he does not mention > > any specific countries or dates, he just > > gives the names of continents and broad dated > > long span periods which can be connected to > > any event hapenning anywhere > > in the world. Yet I hope he comes up with some > > technical information if he has any, > > and guide us on how to predict natural disasters > > and pointers in mundane astrology. I will not take > > his name for obvious reasons. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40>, > > " Wendy Vasicek " > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vic, > > > > > > //Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a > > beginner:// > > > > > > First let me congratulate you on your effort...very good by the > > way! > > > Unfortunately there are very few here prepared to put themselves > > forward by > > > offering their own thoughts on topics under discussion and thus > > contributing > > > to the knowledge of the group. This puts a heavy load on the few > > > contributors prepared to give back to the group. I'm grateful > > therefore for > > > your contribution :-) > > > > > > //USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets > > in > > > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > > > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions.// > > > > > > Looking at the USA chart, the Kshatriya (warrior) influence is > > quite > > > telling. America was in fact engaged in war with Great Britain at > > the time > > > of the declaration of independence (1776)... The American > > Revolution > > > (1775-1783). > > > > > > This was followed by; > > > The Franco-American Naval Way (1798-1800) > > > The Barbary Wars (1801-1805; 1815) > > > The War of 1812 (1812-1815) > > > The Creek (Indian) War (1813-1814) > > > The War of Texas (1836) > > > The Mexican War (1846-1848) > > > The Civil War (1861-1865) > > > The Spanish-American War (1898) > > > World War 1 (1914-1918) > > > World War 2 (1939-1945) > > > The Korean War (1950-1953) > > > The Vietnam War (1960-1975) > > > The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) > > > Grenada (1983) > > > Invasion of Panama (1989) > > > The Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) > > > Intervention Bosnia/Herzegovina (1995-1996) > > > Invasion of Iraq (2003) > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Mrs. Wendy > > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Vic D " <vicdicara@> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40>> > > > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:32 AM > > > Re: Re: China Quake > > > > > > > > > Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a > > beginner: > > > > > > > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct > > SUN > > > > in 7th. > > > > > > > USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in > > > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > > > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions. > > > > > > > > > > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > > > > SUN in > > > > 3rd. > > > > > > India has an earthy-shudra/ female/ peace-love sign with powerful > > > planets in the 3rd house (literature) which means it should be a > > > country that produces great literature for the upliftment of > > humanity > > > (vedas) > > > > > > > > > > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in > > sign > > > > of Leo. > > > > > > China has an earthy-shudra/ female/ harmful but ambitious sign with > > > it's most important planet all alone in the house of death. This > > means > > > it should be a country that has a lot of difficulties, which works > > > hard without much pleasurable results for it's people. It might > > also > > > mean that it meets an untimely demise. It is effectively the > > servant > > > of other countries. It does not do well in negotiation or > > diplomacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Love is a fruit in season at all times, > and within the reach of every hand. > ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I am away from my city. I may be able to contribute some thing on the issues you raised when I come back to my home since I dont have easy access here to the Internet as is available to me at my city. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > As always it's good to have your input... > If time permits, I'm sure it would benefit the group immensely if you could > share your knowledge of mundane astrology...i.e. some scriptural reference. > As I'm sure you know guidelines governing (modern) mundane astrology are > noticeable by their absence; Certainly I would be grateful if you could > point me to some reference. > > In the meantime, let me share a little of my own understanding: > As with Natal astrology, the most important consideration is lagna lord...in > mundane astrology, of course, this represents the country (or city) itself. > In terms of government, Sun would be the prime indicator; and Moon, as you > stated, would indicate the people at large (the general public). > > I'd like, if I can, to present a few charts for study in light of the above: > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN in 7th. > 2) AUS: Virgo rises with lagna lord ME, JU and SA conjunct SUN in 4th. > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct SUN in > 3rd. > > Now take a look at: > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign of Leo. > 2) BURMA: Scorpio rises with lagna lord MA alone in 10th, in sign of Leo. > > PS: Recently the Australian Labor (labour) Party was elected to government > after 11+ years in opposition to the Liberal Party (champions of free > enterprise and capitalism)...can we see Jupiter here? > > The Labor Party, on the other hand, is affiliated with the trade > unions, incorporating them into the structure of the party...can we see > Saturn here? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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