Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 dear frend characterstics of an astrologer is he shud be ooha pooha patu gaambheer vaak chaturya desh kaal targna, ganitagya etc means shud be well versed in maths, shud be able to view cons and pros, able to answer tacticaly without hurting etc. astrology is releted with 2nd 5th 11th house karaka being mercury and jupiter there are varius combinations listed for being a astrologer most of which revolve around inter relation of mercury and jupiter with lords of 2nd 5th and 11th. if supported by 10th lord or lagnesh then he bcome famous in astrology, if we chek horoscopes of sri b.v. raman , sri pvr ji, sri sanjay rathji, sir allen leo, and many others we may bring out causitive infuences. as a student of astrology once i had started working on these horoscopes but due to variaus reason was unable to give congruate structure.. if find time surely will fwd at forum i was not able to understand CET -1:00 hence was not able to caste chart u mentioned , or else u can give planetory details regards rajeev -- In vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology wrote: > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > should be the career? > > 10th February, 1968 > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > Long: 012E42 > Lat: 56N03 G > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > Sincerely, > NN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Dear Rajeev, thank you for your kind and informative reply. Indeed it would be interesting to gather and study horoscopes of outstanding astrologers. Applying your suggestions to the horoscope example at hand: 10th February, 1968 11.29.46 am Timezone: CentralEuropeanTime -1:00 hour Long: 012E42 Lat: 56N03 G Geocentric, Lahiri Zodiac Lagna: 26Taurus04 Asc 26°Ta04'--H1 Mon 10°Ge43'--H2 Sun 27°Cp21'--H9 Mer 07°Aq37'R--H10 Ven 24°Sg35'--H8 Mar 01°Pi27'--H11 Jup 08°Le46'R--H4 Sat 15°Pi35'--H11 Rah 27°Pi20'R--H11 Ket 27°Vi20'R--H5 1) Mercury rules H2 and H5. 2) Jupiter rules H11. 3) Mercury in H10. 3) Jupiter close aspect to Mercury and H10. 4) Saturn ruling H10 is making yoga in H11. 5) Saturn in triangle of mutual reception with Jupiter H4 and Sun H9. 6) Mars, Saturn and Rahu in H11. 7) Moon in H2. 8) Ketu in H5. 9) Venus ruling lagna in H8 disposited by Jupiter. In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what should be the career? What is the rationale for H11 being important? Sincerely, NN vedic astrology , " rajee_66v " <rajee_66v wrote: > > dear frend > > characterstics of an astrologer is he shud be ooha pooha patu > gaambheer vaak chaturya desh kaal targna, ganitagya etc means shud > be well versed in maths, shud be able to view cons and pros, able to > answer tacticaly without hurting etc. > > astrology is releted with 2nd 5th 11th house karaka being mercury > and jupiter there are varius combinations listed for being a > astrologer most of which revolve around inter relation of mercury > and jupiter with lords of 2nd 5th and 11th. > > if supported by 10th lord or lagnesh then he bcome famous in > astrology, > > if we chek horoscopes of sri b.v. raman , sri pvr ji, sri sanjay > rathji, sir allen leo, and many others we may bring out causitive > infuences. > > as a student of astrology once i had started working on these > horoscopes but due to variaus reason was unable to give congruate > structure.. if find time surely will fwd at forum > > i was not able to understand CET -1:00 hence was not able to caste > chart u mentioned , or else u can give planetory details > > regards > rajeev > > > > -- In vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology@> > wrote: > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or > what > > should be the career? > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > Long: 012E42 > > Lat: 56N03 G > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > Sincerely, > > NN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 om krishna guru, dear astronova, This chart indicates a person of constant problems in career and continuous failure in job ,may be nor appreciated by his employers ,however hardly he tries . I dont think he can shine well in the field of astro ,,the planets of intuition ketu has no relation with 2nd houses or aspect of jup(esp) .Or jupiter has no relation with house of speech of vaak sidhi. yes merc related to jup and may giv flair for astro and may be an enthusiast in astro and later in life he may take up astro after so many failures in other jobs . with mantra bhava afflicted and all bad planets combinations aspecting 5th house he may be practising some lower kind of mantras or devatas,Also badaka lords dasa is running till 2015. This is what my humble knowledge and let me know who the guy is . Also let us know as an astrologer whether he has done any long ranging predictions . regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology wrote: > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > should be the career? > > 10th February, 1968 > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > Long: 012E42 > Lat: 56N03 G > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > Sincerely, > NN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 If you have 7th Sublord as Venus, then your Vaksuddi enhances your astrological profession. astronnova <astrology wrote: In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what should be the career? 10th February, 1968 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 Long: 012E42 Lat: 56N03 G Lagna: 26Taurus04 Sincerely, NN Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Namasthe, Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the Navamsa Lagna is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the Navamsa Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good combination for good astrologer with in born qualities of an astrologer. Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. Pranam Srinivasa vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology wrote: > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > should be the career? > > 10th February, 1968 > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > Long: 012E42 > Lat: 56N03 G > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > Sincerely, > NN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Dear NN, We can not deny him becoming as astrologer. His career is in line with Ju planet like a lawyer, professor, teacher or computer hardware.Astrology is also one among those. Am I correct ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " astronnova " <astrology wrote: > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > should be the career? > > 10th February, 1968 > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > Long: 012E42 > Lat: 56N03 G > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > Sincerely, > NN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Dear Srinivasa, thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we need to have Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in Navamsha lagna only if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than given. This could be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya ruling Simha Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal H5, aspected by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to Rashi, where Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? Sincerely, NN vedic astrology , " padmanu " <padmanu wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namasthe, > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the Navamsa Lagna > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the Navamsa > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good combination > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an astrologer. > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > Pranam > > Srinivasa > > vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology@> > wrote: > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > > should be the career? > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > Long: 012E42 > > Lat: 56N03 G > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > Sincerely, > > NN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 om krishna guru, dear rafalji, thanks for the reply. but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other assossiation its differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u elaborate if your time permits . regds sunil nair . pm shreem maha laxmai namah. vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > ------ > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in Rasi > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc nakshatra with yoga > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/nakshatra for Jyotish. > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and eleventh bhava. > ------ > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz, > Consultations & Articles: > * > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we need to have > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in Navamsha lagna only > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than given. This could > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya ruling Simha > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal H5, aspected > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to Rashi, where > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > Sincerely, > > NN > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " padmanu " padmanu@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the Navamsa Lagna > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the Navamsa > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good > > combination > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an astrologer. > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " astronnova " <astrology@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or > > what > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rafal, I dont know which version of BPHS you have... Lets quote the Shloka from BPHS, Chapter 36, sloka 21-22(R.Santhanam Edition).. Dharmalagnegatey saumye panchame sadasadyute| paape cha chaturasrasthe yogo-ayam matsya sanjnakah|| kaalaajnah karunamurtirgunadhibalaruupabaan| yashovidyatapaswi cha matsyayoge hi jaayate|| ----- For your convenience, let me break each word & explain it to you.. Dharmalagnagatey saumye--meaning Lagna & Ascendant shld have natural benefics Panchame Sadasadyute---the 5th house shld have both malefic & benefic conjunction (Sat+Asatyute) Paape cha chaturasrasthe---Malefics in Chaturasra, meaning in 4th & 8th house from Lagna(I believe, u know Chaturasra means 4 & 8th houses frm Lagna) Yogo-ayam matsyasanjakah-->This yoga is known as Matsya Yoga. I am not explaining the rest as those are related to effects!! However, Sri Venkateswara version & Seetaram Jha version says malefics in Lagna & 9th house...YOU FAILED TO ADD LAGNA & 9TH HOUSE IN THE SCENARIO!!! Thanq, vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Sunilji , Namaskar > - ----- > 1.Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa Lagna or Swamsa (or 5 from it). Ketu gives > jyotish in 5 from Swamsa according to Parasara.. Rahu in Lagna or kona > to Navamsa Lagna gives crossing borders and it gives Jyotish from these > sources. The best is Surya in Lagna per lecture of Sanjayji..im > fortunate to have it. > 2.Matsya Yoga is in Bphs in the miscealanous yoga chapter. Its when 4 > and 8 has malefics and fifth has mixed planets. This Yoga can be full or > partialy as Gurudev said. I find main dictum for Jyotisha when eigth > bhava has connection to fifth bhava. Visti Larsen : 5L with 8L in 12H in > Guru-sisya Yoga. Zoran Radosavljevis : 5L is in Libra and Taurus in D9 > (eigth bhava distance). Sanjay Rath 8L in fifth bhava. Sarbani Rath 8L > in fifth bhava. Myself 8L in fifth bhava. > 3. Hasta is very good and I believe Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja has this. > > > - ----- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz, > Consultations & Articles: > * > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > > astro_tellerkerala napisa?(a): > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear rafalji, > > > > thanks for the reply. > > > > but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other assossiation its > > differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , > > > > matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? > > > > also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u elaborate if your > > time permits . > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > pm shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > > > > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > > > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > > > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > > > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in Rasi > > > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > > > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > > > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc nakshatra with > > yoga > > > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > > > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > > > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/ nakshatra for > > Jyotish. > > > > > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and eleventh bhava. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Regards, > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > * > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we need to have > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in Navamsha lagna > > only > > > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than given. This > > could > > > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya ruling > > Simha > > > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal H5, aspected > > > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to Rashi, where > > > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > NN > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " padmanu " padmanu@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the Navamsa > > Lagna > > > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the Navamsa > > > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good > > > > combination > > > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " astronnova " > > <astrology@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or > > > > what > > > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rafal, Is it better to mention the full yoga or partial yoga????If u only talk of partial yoga...it is like eating something while the stomach is still not filled with food & u r hungry again... Never justify with something partial or full like eclipses...then it becomes " fixing astrology " Sharma, verma etc wut edition you have...none of them wrote BPHS...read the sloka & if u have some knowledge of Sanskrit, you can bring out the meaning itself.. Thanq Thanq, Gau vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Gaurav , Namaskar > - ----- > > Om Shanti..Shanti..Shantii... > > I was mentioning about part of this Yoga..pls refer my mail again. > > Still I advise You Sharma Version. > > - ----- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz, > Consultations & Articles: > * > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > > Gaurav napisa?(a): > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Rafal, > > I dont know which version of BPHS you have... > > Lets quote the Shloka from BPHS, Chapter 36, sloka 21-22 (R.Santhanam > > Edition).. > > Dharmalagnegatey saumye panchame sadasadyute| > > paape cha chaturasrasthe yogo-ayam matsya sanjnakah|| > > kaalaajnah karunamurtirgunadhibalaruupabaan| > > yashovidyatapaswi cha matsyayoge hi jaayate|| > > ----- > > For your convenience, let me break each word & explain it to you.. > > Dharmalagnagatey saumye--meaning Lagna & Ascendant shld have natural > > benefics > > Panchame Sadasadyute---the 5th house shld have both malefic & > > benefic conjunction (Sat+Asatyute) > > Paape cha chaturasrasthe---Malefics in Chaturasra, meaning in 4th & > > 8th house from Lagna(I believe, u know Chaturasra means 4 & 8th > > houses frm Lagna) > > Yogo-ayam matsyasanjakah-->This yoga is known as Matsya Yoga. > > I am not explaining the rest as those are related to effects!! > > However, Sri Venkateswara version & Seetaram Jha version says > > malefics in Lagna & 9th house...YOU FAILED TO ADD LAGNA & 9TH HOUSE > > IN THE SCENARIO!!! > > Thanq, > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > Dear Sunilji , Namaskar > > > ------------------------- > > ----- > > > 1.Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa Lagna or Swamsa (or 5 from it). Ketu > > gives > > > jyotish in 5 from Swamsa according to Parasara.. Rahu in Lagna or > > kona > > > to Navamsa Lagna gives crossing borders and it gives Jyotish from > > these > > > sources. The best is Surya in Lagna per lecture of Sanjayji..im > > > fortunate to have it. > > > 2.Matsya Yoga is in Bphs in the miscealanous yoga chapter. Its > > when 4 > > > and 8 has malefics and fifth has mixed planets. This Yoga can be > > full or > > > partialy as Gurudev said. I find main dictum for Jyotisha when > > eigth > > > bhava has connection to fifth bhava. Visti Larsen : 5L with 8L in > > 12H in > > > Guru-sisya Yoga. Zoran Radosavljevis : 5L is in Libra and Taurus > > in D9 > > > (eigth bhava distance). Sanjay Rath 8L in fifth bhava. Sarbani > > Rath 8L > > > in fifth bhava. Myself 8L in fifth bhava. > > > 3. Hasta is very good and I believe Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja has > > this. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ----- > > > Regards, > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > * > > > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear rafalji, > > > > > > > > thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other assossiation > > its > > > > differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , > > > > > > > > matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? > > > > > > > > also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u elaborate > > if your > > > > time permits . > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > pm shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > > > > > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > > > > > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > > > > > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in > > Rasi > > > > > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > > > > > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > > > > > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc > > nakshatra with > > > > yoga > > > > > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > > > > > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > > > > > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/ > > nakshatra for > > > > Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and eleventh > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > > > > Regards, > > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > > * > > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > > <http://www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we need to > > have > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in Navamsha > > lagna > > > > only > > > > > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than given. > > This > > > > could > > > > > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya > > ruling > > > > Simha > > > > > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal H5, > > aspected > > > > > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to Rashi, > > where > > > > > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " padmanu " > > padmanu@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > > > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the > > Navamsa > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the > > Navamsa > > > > > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " astronnova " > > > > <astrology@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an > > astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an > > astrologer, or > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rafal, Faith one someone & something is good....but its bad to have blind faith. I have faith on Shree B.V.Raman & Shree K.N.Rao, but not blind faith; i read their books, not blindly, see the applicability of their principlies in all horoscopes & then use it .... As i said earlier that if u use partial combination its like having an empty stomach even after eating a plateful... & if you justify onething with a partial combination then thats nothing but " FIXING ASTROLOGY " !!! As per your partial combination Amitabh Bachchan shld have been a successful astrologer as well!! Read charts of B V Raman, KN Rao & PS Sastry.. & explain why they were astrologers..even read my chart if you want(August 23,1985, Calcutta,20:01 hrs) & find astrologically the reason for inclination to astrology..never do " FIXING ASTROLOGY " .CAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING YOUR OWN SELF!! 5th lord in 8th house or vice-versa is good for being astrologer..cud be..but other results??? Thanq, Gaurav vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Gaurav , Namaskar > - ----- > Yes..I follow Sanjayji and he says that partly formation is enough. You > try to learn me something I already know and try to focus on what I am > doing..I use what I need...in this case partial formation is enough and > If one know Jyotish he knows which part of Yoga is activated and how. > Correction is welcome when there is an error. > > > - ----- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz, > Consultations & Articles: > * > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > Gaurav napisa?(a): > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Rafal, > > I dont know which version of BPHS you have... > > Lets quote the Shloka from BPHS, Chapter 36, sloka 21-22 (R.Santhanam > > Edition).. > > Dharmalagnegatey saumye panchame sadasadyute| > > paape cha chaturasrasthe yogo-ayam matsya sanjnakah|| > > kaalaajnah karunamurtirgunadhi balaruupabaan| > > yashovidyatapaswi cha matsyayoge hi jaayate|| > > ----- > > For your convenience, let me break each word & explain it to you.. > > Dharmalagnagatey saumye--meaning Lagna & Ascendant shld have natural > > benefics > > Panchame Sadasadyute- --the 5th house shld have both malefic & > > benefic conjunction (Sat+Asatyute) > > Paape cha chaturasrasthe- --Malefics in Chaturasra, meaning in 4th & > > 8th house from Lagna(I believe, u know Chaturasra means 4 & 8th > > houses frm Lagna) > > Yogo-ayam matsyasanjakah- ->This yoga is known as Matsya Yoga. > > I am not explaining the rest as those are related to effects!! > > However, Sri Venkateswara version & Seetaram Jha version says > > malefics in Lagna & 9th house...YOU FAILED TO ADD LAGNA & 9TH HOUSE > > IN THE SCENARIO!!! > > Thanq, > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > Dear Sunilji , Namaskar > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > ----- > > > 1.Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa Lagna or Swamsa (or 5 from it). Ketu > > gives > > > jyotish in 5 from Swamsa according to Parasara.. Rahu in Lagna or > > kona > > > to Navamsa Lagna gives crossing borders and it gives Jyotish from > > these > > > sources. The best is Surya in Lagna per lecture of Sanjayji..im > > > fortunate to have it. > > > 2.Matsya Yoga is in Bphs in the miscealanous yoga chapter. Its > > when 4 > > > and 8 has malefics and fifth has mixed planets. This Yoga can be > > full or > > > partialy as Gurudev said. I find main dictum for Jyotisha when > > eigth > > > bhava has connection to fifth bhava. Visti Larsen : 5L with 8L in > > 12H in > > > Guru-sisya Yoga. Zoran Radosavljevis : 5L is in Libra and Taurus > > in D9 > > > (eigth bhava distance). Sanjay Rath 8L in fifth bhava. Sarbani > > Rath 8L > > > in fifth bhava. Myself 8L in fifth bhava. > > > 3. Hasta is very good and I believe Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja has > > this. > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > ----- > > > Regards, > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > * > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear rafalji, > > > > > > > > thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other assossiation > > its > > > > differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , > > > > > > > > matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? > > > > > > > > also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u elaborate > > if your > > > > time permits . > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > pm shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > > > > > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > > > > > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > > > > > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in > > Rasi > > > > > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > > > > > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > > > > > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc > > nakshatra with > > > > yoga > > > > > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > > > > > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > > > > > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/ > > nakshatra for > > > > Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and eleventh > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > > > > Regards, > > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > > * > > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > > <http://www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we need to > > have > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in Navamsha > > lagna > > > > only > > > > > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than given. > > This > > > > could > > > > > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya > > ruling > > > > Simha > > > > > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal H5, > > aspected > > > > > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to Rashi, > > where > > > > > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " padmanu " > > padmanu@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to have > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > > > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the > > Navamsa > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, the > > Navamsa > > > > > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very good > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " astronnova " > > > > <astrology@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an > > astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an > > astrologer, or > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Pram/Prem Chopra ji (that PRAM was a typo when you became a member, right?), I have been a fan of Amitabh since the first film of his that I saw: Saat Hindustani. The confluence of imagined/expected weakness and manifested but never declared or touted strength that his character represents in a very subdued way truly captured the 'Indian' character, the Indian soul! And it carried on and on. He represents and never really denied to the audience (spectators really!) that magical formula that most Indians believe in and were indoctrinated to believe in: Mortals must withstand torture until even God is embarassed into stepping-in and delivering the " goods " . And the goods are always justice, fairness and equanimity -- three things that historically India and its masses have been denied through centuries for one reason or another! As for being an astrologer or psychic is concerned, I do not think Amitabhji has had the time or opportunity to really delve into that. Or else he would have avoided the renal injury he received on the set of Coolie, which has not been a malady in the passing, as we have witnessed! He is perhaps a great human being, even generous and humanitarian, I do not know, particularly after having suffered all the pain and rejection that he must have in early days, but let us not lose our awareness of his being human. To be human is to be flexible and Amita bhji has shown that his is the epitome of flexibility! Do your disagree, astrologically? RR vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Gaurav > > God Bless U > > Amitabh Bachchan is a Kind of astrologer and Poet because he have Vaak Siddhi. What ever he will predict will become true but lack of courage to handle the situation. So he will not feel free while doing pridictions. > > Prem Chopra > > > Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Rafal, > Faith one someone & something is good....but its bad to have blind > faith. I have faith on Shree B.V.Raman & Shree K.N.Rao, but not > blind faith; i read their books, not blindly, see the applicability > of their principlies in all horoscopes & then use it .... > As i said earlier that if u use partial combination its like having > an empty stomach even after eating a plateful... & if you justify > onething with a partial combination then thats nothing but " FIXING > ASTROLOGY " !!! > As per your partial combination Amitabh Bachchan shld have been a > successful astrologer as well!! > Read charts of B V Raman, KN Rao & PS Sastry.. & explain why they > were astrologers..even read my chart if you want(August 23,1985, > Calcutta,20:01 hrs) & find astrologically the reason for inclination > to astrology..never do " FIXING ASTROLOGY " .CAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, YOU > ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING YOUR OWN SELF!! > 5th lord in 8th house or vice-versa is good for being > astrologer..cud be..but other results??? > Thanq, > Gaurav > > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > Dear Gaurav , Namaskar > > ------------------------- > ----- > > Yes..I follow Sanjayji and he says that partly formation is > enough. You > > try to learn me something I already know and try to focus on what > I am > > doing..I use what I need...in this case partial formation is > enough and > > If one know Jyotish he knows which part of Yoga is activated and > how. > > Correction is welcome when there is an error. > > > > > > ------------------------- > ----- > > Regards, > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > Consultations & Articles: > > * > > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > Gaurav napisa?(a): > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > Dear Rafal, > > > I dont know which version of BPHS you have... > > > Lets quote the Shloka from BPHS, Chapter 36, sloka 21-22 > (R.Santhanam > > > Edition).. > > > Dharmalagnegatey saumye panchame sadasadyute| > > > paape cha chaturasrasthe yogo-ayam matsya sanjnakah|| > > > kaalaajnah karunamurtirgunadhi balaruupabaan| > > > yashovidyatapaswi cha matsyayoge hi jaayate|| > > > ----- > > > For your convenience, let me break each word & explain it to > you.. > > > Dharmalagnagatey saumye--meaning Lagna & Ascendant shld have > natural > > > benefics > > > Panchame Sadasadyute- --the 5th house shld have both malefic & > > > benefic conjunction (Sat+Asatyute) > > > Paape cha chaturasrasthe- --Malefics in Chaturasra, meaning in > 4th & > > > 8th house from Lagna(I believe, u know Chaturasra means 4 & 8th > > > houses frm Lagna) > > > Yogo-ayam matsyasanjakah- ->This yoga is known as Matsya Yoga. > > > I am not explaining the rest as those are related to effects!! > > > However, Sri Venkateswara version & Seetaram Jha version says > > > malefics in Lagna & 9th house...YOU FAILED TO ADD LAGNA & 9TH > HOUSE > > > IN THE SCENARIO!!! > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > Dear Sunilji , Namaskar > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > - > > > ----- > > > > 1.Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa Lagna or Swamsa (or 5 from it). Ketu > > > gives > > > > jyotish in 5 from Swamsa according to Parasara.. Rahu in Lagna > or > > > kona > > > > to Navamsa Lagna gives crossing borders and it gives Jyotish > from > > > these > > > > sources. The best is Surya in Lagna per lecture of Sanjayji..im > > > > fortunate to have it. > > > > 2.Matsya Yoga is in Bphs in the miscealanous yoga chapter. Its > > > when 4 > > > > and 8 has malefics and fifth has mixed planets. This Yoga can > be > > > full or > > > > partialy as Gurudev said. I find main dictum for Jyotisha when > > > eigth > > > > bhava has connection to fifth bhava. Visti Larsen : 5L with 8L > in > > > 12H in > > > > Guru-sisya Yoga. Zoran Radosavljevis : 5L is in Libra and > Taurus > > > in D9 > > > > (eigth bhava distance). Sanjay Rath 8L in fifth bhava. Sarbani > > > Rath 8L > > > > in fifth bhava. Myself 8L in fifth bhava. > > > > 3. Hasta is very good and I believe Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja > has > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > - > > > ----- > > > > Regards, > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > * > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > dear rafalji, > > > > > > > > > > thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > > > but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other > assossiation > > > its > > > > > differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , > > > > > > > > > > matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? > > > > > > > > > > also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u > elaborate > > > if your > > > > > time permits . > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > pm shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- - > - - > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > > > > > > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > > > > > > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > > > > > > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in > > > Rasi > > > > > > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > > > > > > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > > > > > > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc > > > nakshatra with > > > > > yoga > > > > > > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > > > > > > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > > > > > > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/ > > > nakshatra for > > > > > Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and > eleventh > > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- - > - - > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > > > * > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we > need to > > > have > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in > Navamsha > > > lagna > > > > > only > > > > > > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than > given. > > > This > > > > > could > > > > > > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya > > > ruling > > > > > Simha > > > > > > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal > H5, > > > aspected > > > > > > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to > Rashi, > > > where > > > > > > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " padmanu " > > > padmanu@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to > have > > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > > > > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the > > > Navamsa > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, > the > > > Navamsa > > > > > > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very > good > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an > > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. > com>, " astronnova " > > > > > <astrology@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an > > > astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an > > > astrologer, or > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > > > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > > > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > > > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > > > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer??Did he see your chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi...i haven't read any of his poems...can u please share with me??? Thanq, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I love this term " Ooha-Pooha! " Please provide a few illustrations and if possible an astrological example that will make it clear! Thanks vedic astrology , " rajee_66v " <rajee_66v wrote: > > dear frend > > characterstics of an astrologer is he shud be ooha pooha patu > gaambheer vaak chaturya desh kaal targna, ganitagya etc means shud > be well versed in maths, shud be able to view cons and pros, able to > answer tacticaly without hurting etc. > > astrology is releted with 2nd 5th 11th house karaka being mercury > and jupiter there are varius combinations listed for being a > astrologer most of which revolve around inter relation of mercury > and jupiter with lords of 2nd 5th and 11th. > > if supported by 10th lord or lagnesh then he bcome famous in > astrology, > > if we chek horoscopes of sri b.v. raman , sri pvr ji, sri sanjay > rathji, sir allen leo, and many others we may bring out causitive > infuences. > > as a student of astrology once i had started working on these > horoscopes but due to variaus reason was unable to give congruate > structure.. if find time surely will fwd at forum > > i was not able to understand CET -1:00 hence was not able to caste > chart u mentioned , or else u can give planetory details > > regards > rajeev > > > > -- In vedic astrology , " astronnova " <astrology@> > wrote: > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an astrologer? > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or > what > > should be the career? > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > Long: 012E42 > > Lat: 56N03 G > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > Sincerely, > > NN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 om krishna guru, dear prem chopra ji, R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started ABCL .. I am not asking his poems as i dont digest poems . Can u share your kundali to the group. Thank u regds sunil nair . om shreem maha laxmai namah. vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Gaurav > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through my spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification I will find the data give me time. > > Prem Chopra > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer??Did he see your > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi...i haven't read > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > Thanq, > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 om krishna guru, dear pramchopraji. pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in chart ,whar r the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be you have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon me ),can u explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face readers. can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly.Also explain it with face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point specify. Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. I am a student ,so many doubts. regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Sunil > > Of course Why not. > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > TOB: 15:38:00 > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > Prem Chopra > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > om krishna guru, > > dear prem chopra ji, > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started ABCL > . > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > digest poems . > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > Thank u > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > vedic astrology , Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through my > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification I > will find the data give me time. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer??Did he see your > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi...i haven't read > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 om krishna guru dear premji, i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am studying . U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u said u know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family from the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can understand if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no need to teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and simply explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc only --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord and jup afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very orthodox in nature , Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r characterestics and other problems,u already faced. I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against hypocrazy and this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like a fish ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this forum. Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind information all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not contradict with each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent schools or syllabbus. all the best .(sorry for wrong english) regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Sunil > > God Bless U > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept because of different base of astrological education I am KPbased Transcriptor. > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic studies. > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > Prem Chopra > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > om krishna guru, > > dear pramchopraji. > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in chart ,whar r > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be you > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon me ),can u > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face > readers. > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly.Also explain it with > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point > specify. > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > vedic astrology , Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started > ABCL > > . > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > digest poems . > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > Thank u > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology , Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through > my > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification I > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer??Did he see your > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi...i haven't read > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rafal, I was in a dilemma whether or not to answer your mail.... But in this age of Partial Yoga or Partly Yoga, we have so many kings with Partly Rajayogas... & all those kings having partial powers & kings with partial powers can see partially (as they are half-blind) & so are the servants who are also half-blind... My friends, relatives, even astro friends know how kind i am...but i control my kindness according to the situation!! Swami Vivekananda was asked by a pundit " Swamiji, do u believe that dying in Varanasi will result into Salvation?? " . Swami Vivekananda replied, " No, i believe that after getting the Jnana one will attain Salvation " . A teenager like you saw Swamiji taking bath in the Ganges everyday, asked, " Swamiji are you a tradtional?? " Swamiji said " yes " . Sticking to classics is not a harm, as long as u r not distorting the meaning or changing it to fixing astrology.... I also told you to explain astrologically why B V Raman or K N Rao were astrologers, you just escaped those parts....even i gave you my birthdata to tell me why i am an astrologer & suffered in professional & studies??? I am sorry if u r hurt, but take astrology in a true spirit..like a true brother, i am telling you....if u r confident, be bold to face it, show some examples, & tell ones past , present & future...not a problem I am not here to fight agst u... Yogas are not only seen in Rashi chart, but yogas do manifest in D- charts as well...for a better grasp of the subject, read " New Techniques of Prediction " by H R Shesadri Iyer. Trust me, you can much better prediction & can pinpoint events as well... I had been studying for the past 9 years & by Shree Vishnu's grace & Budha's grace had been doing it well.. Astrology is a never ending subject...the more you study, the more better u can do...I DONT KNOW HOW YOU WILL STOP MY LEARNING ASTROLOGY... BY THE WAY...ASTROLOGY IS NOT A SET OF RULES & LOGIC...SOME PEOPLE BLINDLY FOLLOW THOSE RULES & LOGICS & ARE TERMED AS " QUACKS " & " HALF- BAKED-MUSHROOMS " BY SHREE K.N.RAO. Thanq, vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Gaurav , Namaskar > - ----- > You are not kind anymore. But what is more dangerous You simply dont > understand simple words. > Im not fixing astrology, and I must tell You that it will be hard to > find person who is so strict to follow tradition and sastra. I dont like > any changes and modern corrections. I dont want to repeat myself again > and again what I do with partial Yoga's and that I DONT USE PARTIAL > YOGA'S FOR FULL EFFECTS OF YOGA. If You dont understand the Yoga then > starts blind application which close the door for improvement of level. > > If I will see next mail from Your side where You again are > misunderstanding the simple words and logic I will not answer You again, > because I dont want to repeat myself for the eternity. You put somethin > on me what I've never said and did. I was tolerating Your harsh and loud > ( " !!!! " ) style of writing. But thats enough, I dont want to create > situations when Your Jyotish studies can be stopped because of immature > approach to discussion. Before writing any word, try to grasp the ideas > in mail of predecessor. This will put the discussion on completely > another level. At last Jyotish is Agni and without logic we can forget > about even starting. > > > - ----- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz, > Consultations & Articles: > * > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > Gaurav napisa?(a): > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Rafal, > > Faith one someone & something is good....but its bad to have blind > > faith. I have faith on Shree B.V.Raman & Shree K.N.Rao, but not > > blind faith; i read their books, not blindly, see the applicability > > of their principlies in all horoscopes & then use it .... > > As i said earlier that if u use partial combination its like having > > an empty stomach even after eating a plateful... & if you justify > > onething with a partial combination then thats nothing but " FIXING > > ASTROLOGY " !!! > > As per your partial combination Amitabh Bachchan shld have been a > > successful astrologer as well!! > > Read charts of B V Raman, KN Rao & PS Sastry.. & explain why they > > were astrologers..even read my chart if you want(August 23,1985, > > Calcutta,20:01 hrs) & find astrologically the reason for inclination > > to astrology..never do " FIXING ASTROLOGY " .CAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, YOU > > ARE DOING NOTHING BUT CHEATING YOUR OWN SELF!! > > 5th lord in 8th house or vice-versa is good for being > > astrologer..cud be..but other results??? > > Thanq, > > Gaurav > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > Dear Gaurav , Namaskar > > > ------------------------- > > ----- > > > Yes..I follow Sanjayji and he says that partly formation is > > enough. You > > > try to learn me something I already know and try to focus on what > > I am > > > doing..I use what I need...in this case partial formation is > > enough and > > > If one know Jyotish he knows which part of Yoga is activated and > > how. > > > Correction is welcome when there is an error. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ----- > > > Regards, > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > * > > > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > > Gaurav napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > I dont know which version of BPHS you have... > > > > Lets quote the Shloka from BPHS, Chapter 36, sloka 21-22 > > (R.Santhanam > > > > Edition).. > > > > Dharmalagnegatey saumye panchame sadasadyute| > > > > paape cha chaturasrasthe yogo-ayam matsya sanjnakah|| > > > > kaalaajnah karunamurtirgunadhi balaruupabaan| > > > > yashovidyatapaswi cha matsyayoge hi jaayate|| > > > > ----- > > > > For your convenience, let me break each word & explain it to > > you.. > > > > Dharmalagnagatey saumye--meaning Lagna & Ascendant shld have > > natural > > > > benefics > > > > Panchame Sadasadyute- --the 5th house shld have both malefic & > > > > benefic conjunction (Sat+Asatyute) > > > > Paape cha chaturasrasthe- --Malefics in Chaturasra, meaning in > > 4th & > > > > 8th house from Lagna(I believe, u know Chaturasra means 4 & 8th > > > > houses frm Lagna) > > > > Yogo-ayam matsyasanjakah- ->This yoga is known as Matsya Yoga. > > > > I am not explaining the rest as those are related to effects!! > > > > However, Sri Venkateswara version & Seetaram Jha version says > > > > malefics in Lagna & 9th house...YOU FAILED TO ADD LAGNA & 9TH > > HOUSE > > > > IN THE SCENARIO!!! > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > > Dear Sunilji , Namaskar > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- > > - > > > > ----- > > > > > 1.Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa Lagna or Swamsa (or 5 from it). Ketu > > > > gives > > > > > jyotish in 5 from Swamsa according to Parasara.. Rahu in Lagna > > or > > > > kona > > > > > to Navamsa Lagna gives crossing borders and it gives Jyotish > > from > > > > these > > > > > sources. The best is Surya in Lagna per lecture of Sanjayji..im > > > > > fortunate to have it. > > > > > 2.Matsya Yoga is in Bphs in the miscealanous yoga chapter. Its > > > > when 4 > > > > > and 8 has malefics and fifth has mixed planets. This Yoga can > > be > > > > full or > > > > > partialy as Gurudev said. I find main dictum for Jyotisha when > > > > eigth > > > > > bhava has connection to fifth bhava. Visti Larsen : 5L with 8L > > in > > > > 12H in > > > > > Guru-sisya Yoga. Zoran Radosavljevis : 5L is in Libra and > > Taurus > > > > in D9 > > > > > (eigth bhava distance). Sanjay Rath 8L in fifth bhava. Sarbani > > > > Rath 8L > > > > > in fifth bhava. Myself 8L in fifth bhava. > > > > > 3. Hasta is very good and I believe Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja > > has > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- > > - > > > > ----- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > > * > > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > > <http://www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear rafalji, > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > but some doubts how rahu ,ketu in lagna (with other > > assossiation > > > > its > > > > > > differrent storey ) ,ruchak yoga can produce a jyothishi , > > > > > > > > > > > > matsya yoga ( its kaala jnana yoga also ) --can u explain .? > > > > > > > > > > > > also some doubts abt nakhsatras u mentioned ---can u > > elaborate > > > > if your > > > > > > time permits . > > > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > > > pm shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > > > > Dear Saumya , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- ---- > > - - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji once gave also a list of helpful Yoga's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Tapaswi yoga explained below > > > > > > > 2. Rahu or Ketu in swamsa (lagna orkarakamsa) or 5th > > > > > > > 3. Jupiter and Ketu to give knowledge from tradition > > > > > > > 4. Atmakaraka in 11th house or associated with 11th Lord in > > > > Rasi > > > > > > > 5. MatSya yoga (full or at least partly formed) > > > > > > > 6. Strong Mars like in Ruchak mahapurusha yoga > > > > > > > 7. Strong association os Aswini, Hasta, Satabhisaj etc > > > > nakshatra with > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > forming planets or Karmarsha nakshatra > > > > > > > 8. 8th lord associating with the houses of knowledge > > > > > > > 9. Dhimantah yoga associating with these combinations/ > > > > nakshatra for > > > > > > Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course the wellknown dictum is yoga between AK and > > eleventh > > > > bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- ---- > > - - > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > *Rafal Gendarz, > > > > > > > Consultations & Articles: > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com > > <http://www.rohinaa.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astronnova napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivasa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your suggestion; " for an astrologer we > > need to > > > > have > > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example horoscope below we get Sun/Ketu in > > Navamsha > > > > lagna > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > if birth is somewhat more than 2 minutes later than > > given. > > > > This > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > be possible, but the other option would be to find Surya > > > > ruling > > > > > > Simha > > > > > > > > Navamsha lagna, closely conjunct Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dispositor of Surya/Ketu would be Mercury in trinal > > H5, > > > > aspected > > > > > > > > by Jupiter, and Mercury/Jupiter in mutual reception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again, maybe your suggestion could also apply to > > Rashi, > > > > where > > > > > > > > Sun is in H9, and Ketu is in H5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be enough to truly be good astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " padmanu " > > > > padmanu@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guruji has taught that for an astrologer we need to > > have > > > > > > > > > Surya, Guru, Rahu, Ketu to be in Trines in the Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > In the given natives chart, for the time you gave the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > is Simha, but if the time is moved 55 seconds later, > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > > > > Lagna becomes Kanya with Surya and Ketu in it, a very > > good > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > for good astrologer with in born qualities of an > > > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujan please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. > > com>, " astronnova " > > > > > > <astrology@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the outstanding characteristics of an > > > > astrologer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an > > > > astrologer, or > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > should be the career? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > > > > > > > > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > > > > > > > > > Long: 012E42 > > > > > > > > > > Lat: 56N03 G > > > > > > > > > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > NN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 om krishna guru, respected raviguruji . Nice to see u in forum, accept my pranam, I read from some old books ,i dont remember which one , For seeing the kind of vaak -sidhi --------the nature of planet ,like malefics or ashubha graha as 9th lord in 2nd house-will giv what ever bad he said(unpleasant predictions of him) will be materialised ,like old marana thycaud nampoothiri of kerala ,who was accurate only in predicting death by seeing a person.(who never failed in his life in these predictions,upto nadika (time) he predicts) And subha graha good prediction of him will be materialised . I s it true ,pls enlighten us . with regrds -----sunil nair from delhi; om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi wrote: > > If either Jupiter or 9th lord is placed in 2nd house the person will have vaak-siddhi > > Shindi sinhazz wrote: Can anyone explain to me what do we understand by a multidimension, 2 dimension or a 3 dimension person. > > Moreover, How to view different aspects of a D-60 chart. > > > " yobrevol " yobrevol > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:30:48 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Hare Rama Krshina > Aum Durgayai namah > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak siddhi. > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, and runs > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > Namaste > Gaurav > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > sinhazz writes: > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is not an > astrologer. > > > Shindi sinhazz > > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension or 3 > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Dear Sunil > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest to me. > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If it give U > pain reject. > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole world. > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to needed ones. > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I have any fruit > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > This is what I feel. > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > Prem Chopra > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > om krishna guru > > dear premji, > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > studying . > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u said u > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family from > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can understand > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no need to > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and simply > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc only > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord and jup > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very orthodox > in nature , > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against hypocrazy and > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like a fish > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this forum. > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind information > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not contradict with > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent schools > or syllabbus. > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ....> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > God Bless U > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept because of > different base of astrological education I am KPbased Transcriptor. > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic studies. > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in chart ,whar r > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be you > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon me ),can u > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face > > readers. > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain it with > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point > > specify. > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started > > ABCL > > > . > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > digest poems . > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through > > my > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification > I > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he see your > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i haven't > read > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Gauravji, Will somewhat similar effects show up even if Jup just aspects 2nd house from the 8th house? Regards Shiva vedic astrology , yobrevol wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krshina > Aum Durgayai namah > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak siddhi. > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, and runs > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > Namaste > Gaurav > > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > sinhazz writes: > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is not an > astrologer. > > > > Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension or 3 > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > ----- Original Message ---- > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Dear Sunil > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest to me. > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If it give U > pain reject. > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole world. > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to needed ones. > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I have any fruit > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > This is what I feel. > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > Prem Chopra > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > om krishna guru > > dear premji, > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > studying . > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u said u > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family from > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can understand > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no need to > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and simply > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc only > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord and jup > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very orthodox > in nature , > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against hypocrazy and > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like a fish > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this forum. > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind information > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not contradict with > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent schools > or syllabbus. > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > God Bless U > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept because of > different base of astrological education I am KPbased Transcriptor. > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic studies. > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in chart ,whar r > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be you > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon me ),can u > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face > > readers. > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain it with > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point > > specify. > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology@ . com, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started > > ABCL > > > . > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > digest poems . > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through > > my > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification > I > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he see your > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i haven't > read > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Expecting? 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dear sir, I am a student in astrology, can u explain the meaning vaak-siddhi. For pisces ascendant Mars in the second thus it constitute vaak- siddi. Thanking u in advance Vincent -- In vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi wrote: > > If either Jupiter or 9th lord is placed in 2nd house the person will have vaak-siddhi > > Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Can anyone explain to me what do we understand by a multidimension, 2 dimension or a 3 dimension person. > > Moreover, How to view different aspects of a D-60 chart. > > > " yobrevol " <yobrevol > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:30:48 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Hare Rama Krshina > Aum Durgayai namah > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak siddhi. > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, and runs > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > Namaste > Gaurav > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > sinhazz writes: > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is not an > astrologer. > > > Shindi <sinhazz > > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension or 3 > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > Dear Sunil > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest to me. > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If it give U > pain reject. > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole world. > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to needed ones. > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I have any fruit > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > This is what I feel. > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > Prem Chopra > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > om krishna guru > > dear premji, > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > studying . > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u said u > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family from > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can understand > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no need to > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and simply > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc only > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord and jup > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very orthodox > in nature , > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against hypocrazy and > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like a fish > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this forum. > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind information > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not contradict with > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent schools > or syllabbus. > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > God Bless U > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept because of > different base of astrological education I am KPbased Transcriptor. > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic studies. > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in chart ,whar r > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be you > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon me ),can u > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face > > readers. > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain it with > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point > > specify. > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever he had > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some movie. > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he started > > ABCL > > > . > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > digest poems . > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He is very > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and through > > my > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for clearification > I > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he see your > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i haven't > read > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Dear Prem, Thank you for your reply being a non indian I do not understand the literal meaning of the phrase or words vaak-siddhi meant. Is it to mean the ability of the native to fortell . Thank you Vincent -- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear vinhuat > > God Bless U > > vaak-siddhi is concern with 2nd house with 9th house and 5th house with Planets Mercury, Jupiter and Sun. > > Prem Chopra > > vinhuat <vinhuat wrote: > Dear sir, > I am a student in astrology, can u explain the meaning vaak-siddhi. > For pisces ascendant Mars in the second thus it constitute vaak- > siddi. > Thanking u in advance > Vincent > > -- In vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi@> > wrote: > > > > If either Jupiter or 9th lord is placed in 2nd house the person > will have vaak-siddhi > > > > Shindi <sinhazz@> wrote: Can anyone explain to me what > do we understand by a multidimension, 2 dimension or a 3 dimension > person. > > > > Moreover, How to view different aspects of a D-60 chart. > > > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@> > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:30:48 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > Hare Rama Krshina > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak > siddhi. > > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, > and runs > > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > > > Namaste > > Gaurav > > > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > > sinhazz writes: > > > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is > not an > > astrologer. > > > > > > Shindi <sinhazz > > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension or > 3 > > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > > > > > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest > to me. > > > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If > it give U > > pain reject. > > > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole > world. > > > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to needed > ones. > > > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I have > any fruit > > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > > > This is what I feel. > > > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > > > om krishna guru > > > > dear premji, > > > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > > studying . > > > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u said u > > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family > from > > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can > understand > > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no need > to > > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and > simply > > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc only > > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord > and jup > > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very > orthodox > > in nature , > > > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against hypocrazy > and > > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like a > fish > > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this forum. > > > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind > information > > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not contradict > with > > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent > schools > > or syllabbus. > > > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > God Bless U > > > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept because > of > > different base of astrological education I am KPbased Transcriptor. > > > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic > studies. > > > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in > chart ,whar r > > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may be > you > > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon > me ),can u > > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by face > > > readers. > > > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain it > with > > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna point > > > specify. > > > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > pramchopra1964@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast one > > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when ever > he had > > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some > movie. > > > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he > started > > > ABCL > > > > . > > > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > > digest poems . > > > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > pramchopra1964@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He > is very > > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and > through > > > my > > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for > clearification > > I > > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he see > your > > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i > haven't > > read > > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Dear Prem, Thks for your explanation. God bless u and your family regards vincent vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Vincent > > God Bless U > > Yes Dear but not only foretell but what ever the person say either positive or negative. > > Prem Chopra > > > vinhuat <vinhuat wrote: > Dear Prem, > Thank you for your reply being a non indian I do not understand the > literal meaning of the phrase or words vaak-siddhi meant. > Is it to mean the ability of the native to fortell . > Thank you > Vincent > > -- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@> wrote: > > > > Dear vinhuat > > > > God Bless U > > > > vaak-siddhi is concern with 2nd house with 9th house and 5th > house with Planets Mercury, Jupiter and Sun. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > vinhuat <vinhuat@> wrote: > > Dear sir, > > I am a student in astrology, can u explain the meaning vaak- siddhi. > > For pisces ascendant Mars in the second thus it constitute vaak- > > siddi. > > Thanking u in advance > > Vincent > > > > -- In vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > If either Jupiter or 9th lord is placed in 2nd house the person > > will have vaak-siddhi > > > > > > Shindi <sinhazz@> wrote: Can anyone explain to me what > > do we understand by a multidimension, 2 dimension or a 3 dimension > > person. > > > > > > Moreover, How to view different aspects of a D-60 chart. > > > > > > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@> > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:30:48 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Hare Rama Krshina > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > > > > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak > > siddhi. > > > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, > > and runs > > > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav > > > > > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > > > sinhazz writes: > > > > > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is > > not an > > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > Shindi <sinhazz > > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension > or > > 3 > > > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest > > to me. > > > > > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If > > it give U > > > pain reject. > > > > > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > > > > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole > > world. > > > > > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to > needed > > ones. > > > > > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I > have > > any fruit > > > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > > > > > This is what I feel. > > > > > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru > > > > > > dear premji, > > > > > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > > > studying . > > > > > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u > said u > > > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family > > from > > > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can > > understand > > > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no > need > > to > > > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and > > simply > > > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > > > > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc > only > > > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord > > and jup > > > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > > > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very > > orthodox > > > in nature , > > > > > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > > > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > > > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > > > > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against > hypocrazy > > and > > > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like > a > > fish > > > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this > forum. > > > > > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > > > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind > > information > > > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not > contradict > > with > > > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent > > schools > > > or syllabbus. > > > > > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > <pramchopra1964@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > > > God Bless U > > > > > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept > because > > of > > > different base of astrological education I am KPbased > Transcriptor. > > > > > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic > > studies. > > > > > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in > > chart ,whar r > > > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may > be > > you > > > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon > > me ),can u > > > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by > face > > > > readers. > > > > > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain > it > > with > > > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna > point > > > > specify. > > > > > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > pramchopra1964@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast > one > > > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when > ever > > he had > > > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some > > movie. > > > > > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he > > started > > > > ABCL > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > > > digest poems . > > > > > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > pramchopra1964@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He > > is very > > > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and > > through > > > > my > > > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for > > clearification > > > I > > > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he > see > > your > > > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i > > haven't > > > read > > > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto- Check. > > > > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 om krishana guru, dear vincent . vaak sidhi ,vaak is what one speaks and sidhi means some thing achieved exta ordinary ,it can be by birth or by practise .It says the gr8 varahmihira achieved it by sun worship So in a astrologers chart if some planets are influencing it will increase or decrese the quality of his predictions .Those who got vaak sidhi ,even if they r un trained or common persons -it says their many prophetic utterring come tru . I find ppl with gulika in 2nd house if they r hurt or out of frustrations ,utter somthing it comes true --if it is cursing in nature and some say the gulika rising on that day also should some way related to his birth chart position of gulika to make it 100% perfect . In common ppl laungage we can say,the gulika is sitting that time on your tounge hope it clear to u now . regds sunil nair pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " vinhuat " <vinhuat wrote: > > Dear Prem, > Thank you for your reply being a non indian I do not understand the > literal meaning of the phrase or words vaak-siddhi meant. > Is it to mean the ability of the native to fortell . > Thank you > Vincent > > -- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra > pramchopra1964@ wrote: > > > > Dear vinhuat > > > > God Bless U > > > > vaak-siddhi is concern with 2nd house with 9th house and 5th > house with Planets Mercury, Jupiter and Sun. > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > vinhuat vinhuat@ wrote: > > Dear sir, > > I am a student in astrology, can u explain the meaning vaak-siddhi. > > For pisces ascendant Mars in the second thus it constitute vaak- > > siddi. > > Thanking u in advance > > Vincent > > > > -- In vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > If either Jupiter or 9th lord is placed in 2nd house the person > > will have vaak-siddhi > > > > > > Shindi <sinhazz@> wrote: Can anyone explain to me what > > do we understand by a multidimension, 2 dimension or a 3 dimension > > person. > > > > > > Moreover, How to view different aspects of a D-60 chart. > > > > > > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@> > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:30:48 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Hare Rama Krshina > > > Aum Durgayai namah > > > > > > Namaste Shindi ji, > > > > > > Classics state that jupiter in dignity in 2nd house gives vaak > > siddhi. > > > Generally it is true specially if the native is pure and honest, > > and runs > > > applicable dasa bukhti.. > > > > > > Namaste > > > Gaurav > > > > > > In a message dated 3/25/2007 5:39:18 P.M. India Standard Time, > > > sinhazz writes: > > > > > > Moreover can a person have Vaak siddhi by birth, although he is > > not an > > > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > Shindi sinhazz > > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:32:04 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Can anyone explain me what do we understand by a multidimension > or > > 3 > > > dimension or 2 dimension person. > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:16:18 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: horoscope of astrologer > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > I will never suggest any one to leave that astrologer and honest > > to me. > > > > > > What I am giving is my opinion if it give U relief accept it. If > > it give U > > > pain reject. > > > > > > Because My Moto is (What matter most is How U See Yourself). > > > > > > If I Stand where fruitful trees are I have to welcome the Whole > > world. > > > > > > This is all astrologer have to do Show the Search Light to > needed > > ones. > > > > > > NOW the main thing is my work should not disturb anyone. If I > have > > any fruit > > > for the querant or person asking query I am bound to give. > > > > > > This is what I feel. > > > > > > My Heartest Greetings to Jagath Guruji > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru > > > > > > dear premji, > > > > > > i can understand kp or any system u can mention .But still i am > > > studying . > > > > > > U remember u only started it with amitabh s reference ,and u > said u > > > know face reading and has spiritual sidhis .I belong to a family > > from > > > the place, were jagath guru sri adisankara was born ,so i can > > understand > > > if u refer anything .sidhis or tantra (both left or right-no > need > > to > > > teach me ) or long lost systems in astro (u only mention it and > > simply > > > explain it ). U know kp is an off shoot of naadi astrology. > > > > > > regrding your sidhis forget. pls tell me ( i am using now sjc > only > > > --many ppl will help u) .Your merc in MKS and 9th house and lord > > and jup > > > afflicted heavily what it indicates ---in our school of astro we > > > dont even admit such persons .As gurus were very strict -very > > orthodox > > > in nature , > > > > > > Now face reading u hav to mention --wats ur findings ,as u read > > > bachans (one of the lucky few persons) .How u explain u r > > > characterestics and other problems,u already faced. > > > > > > I dont think we should discuss ,further .As i am against > hypocrazy > > and > > > this is a forum for learning and discussions and if u slip like > a > > fish > > > ,no point in discussing further.let us keep sanctity of this > forum. > > > > > > Sorry if i hurt u ,since astrology was our life blood ,i cannot > > > tolerate suedo types .Keep learning something .For ur kind > > information > > > all 108 systems of predictive system in india will not > contradict > > with > > > each other --one support other only --so no point of differrent > > schools > > > or syllabbus. > > > > > > all the best .(sorry for wrong english) > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > <pramchopra1964@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > > > God Bless U > > > > > > > > If I tell U any thing your mind will not able to accept > because > > of > > > different base of astrological education I am KPbased > Transcriptor. > > > > > > > > Only U tell me what U find and I tell U what I have. > > > > > > > > Yes I have Multi dimension education while taking acedmic > > studies. > > > > > > > > Now check how many Siddhi's I have recovered. > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear pramchopraji. > > > > > > > > pram (dont tilt sanskrit names ). > > > > > > > > i got your kundali .i hope its correct ,can u explain in > > chart ,whar r > > > > the combination for jyothishi or spiritual healer . > > > > > > > > one small doubt according to face reading your chart says may > be > > you > > > > have a small nose (my english laungage is not good--pardon > > me ),can u > > > > explain.And one of my friend needs to construct a kundali by > face > > > > readers. > > > > > > > > can u tell me how many jobs u done frustratedly. Also explain > it > > with > > > > face readings and connection with planets in your kundali . > > > > > > > > Can u tell me what your lagna point specify.Or arudha lagna > point > > > > specify. > > > > > > > > Any way thanks to ur running shani dasa. > > > > > > > > I am a student ,so many doubts. > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > pramchopra1964@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Of course Why not. > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 01-06-1964 > > > > > TOB: 15:38:00 > > > > > POB: Chandigarh (Punjab) > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > dear prem chopra ji, > > > > > > > > > > R u talking about the film star amitabh bhachan or > > > > > some body else ,pls kind enough to re think.I know atleast > one > > > > > astrologer were he and his family go for consulting when > ever > > he had > > > > > problems or doubts .I am not asking one of his roles in some > > movie. > > > > > > > > > > Your are talking he has some sidhi also ,with that sidhi,he > > started > > > > ABCL > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > I am not asking his poems as i dont > > > > > digest poems . > > > > > > > > > > Can u share your kundali to the group. > > > > > > > > > > Thank u > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > pramchopra1964@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not ready for this at that moment when I met him. He > > is very > > > > > remarkable man. What ever I can get through Face reading and > > through > > > > my > > > > > spirit guides I am telling U that. If U want this for > > clearification > > > I > > > > > will find the data give me time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Mr.Prem Chopra, > > > > > > How do u know Amitabh bachchan is an astrologer?? Did he > see > > your > > > > > > chart??Give me some of examples of his Vaak-Siddhi. ..i > > haven't > > > read > > > > > > any of his poems...can u please share with me??? > > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Expecting? 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Dear Ramesh, you are correct in that he has been into education and teaching, also relating to computers. Before that he was into a very different career however--maybe you can spot which one. But these days, astrology is growing stronger. Best regards, NN , " aarceemastro2002 " <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear NN, > We can not deny him becoming as astrologer. > His career is in line with Ju planet like a lawyer, professor, teacher > or computer hardware.Astrology is also one among those. > Am I correct ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > , " astronnova " > <astrology@> wrote: > > > > In your estimation, is this the horoscope of an astrologer, or what > > should be the career? > > > > 10th February, 1968 > > 11.29.46 am CET -1:00 > > Long: 012E42 > > Lat: 56N03 G > > Lagna: 26Taurus04 > > > > Sincerely, > > NN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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