Dasha and transit

[Guest guest]

Dear sir

 

Seeing the planetary influences , I feel that family matter would be the area

of concern

 

regards

Ashwin

" viji.selvi " <viji.selvi wrote:

Dear Swami,

 

For quite some time I have been going through the list messages

thread by thread. In one of your messages, you wrote, an astrologer

should be able to find out the present problem in a chart, with the

help of the dasha and transit or the intention of the person

concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer ) with out himself

or herself telling. This is really interesting. I feel strongly an

able astrologer should find it out. Is it really possible to find

out?

 

I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to locate the

problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and asked my

opinion about the chart in general without telling anything

specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close to the point at

issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of concern. Can you

show me the way how it could be done with an example? Your reply

would just a starting point or a beginning for me. If you like I

provide the data of the person concerned – you may like to offer your

opinion.

 

Please, do not take this message, as I am testing you or your

knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to learn the

subject. Thanks.

 

I most welcome other learned members' opinion also in this regard.

 

Data of the person

Male

September 17, 1963

0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

New Delhi.

 

Regards,

 

Viji

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Viji,

 

Did the native suffer any of these or all?

 

1) Problem in marriage ?

2) Transfer problems ?

3) New house.

4) Sale and loss of old property?

5) Estrangement of business partnership ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " viji.selvi " <viji.selvi wrote:

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> For quite some time I have been going through the list messages

> thread by thread. In one of your messages, you wrote, an astrologer

> should be able to find out the present problem in a chart, with the

> help of the dasha and transit or the intention of the person

> concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer ) with out himself

> or herself telling. This is really interesting. I feel strongly an

> able astrologer should find it out. Is it really possible to find

> out?

>

> I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to locate the

> problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and asked my

> opinion about the chart in general without telling anything

> specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close to the point at

> issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of concern. Can you

> show me the way how it could be done with an example? Your reply

> would just a starting point or a beginning for me. If you like I

> provide the data of the person concerned – you may like to offer your

> opinion.

>

> Please, do not take this message, as I am testing you or your

> knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to learn the

> subject. Thanks.

>

> I most welcome other learned members' opinion also in this regard.

>

> Data of the person

> Male

> September 17, 1963

> 0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

> New Delhi.

>

> Regards,

>

> Viji

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Viji,

 

You may add-

Bad health to the natives wife,

in that List.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Viji,

>

> Did the native suffer any of these or all?

>

> 1) Problem in marriage ?

> 2) Transfer problems ?

> 3) New house.

> 4) Sale and loss of old property?

> 5) Estrangement of business partnership ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " viji.selvi " <viji.selvi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swami,

> >

> > For quite some time I have been going through the list messages

> > thread by thread. In one of your messages, you wrote, an astrologer

> > should be able to find out the present problem in a chart, with the

> > help of the dasha and transit or the intention of the person

> > concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer ) with out himself

> > or herself telling. This is really interesting. I feel strongly an

> > able astrologer should find it out. Is it really possible to find

> > out?

> >

> > I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to locate the

> > problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and asked my

> > opinion about the chart in general without telling anything

> > specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close to the point at

> > issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of concern. Can you

> > show me the way how it could be done with an example? Your reply

> > would just a starting point or a beginning for me. If you like I

> > provide the data of the person concerned – you may like to offer your

> > opinion.

> >

> > Please, do not take this message, as I am testing you or your

> > knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to learn the

> > subject. Thanks.

> >

> > I most welcome other learned members' opinion also in this regard.

> >

> > Data of the person

> > Male

> > September 17, 1963

> > 0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

> > New Delhi.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Viji

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Viji,

 

Thanks for this chart. It is not my idea. That is the way I was

taught Jyotish.

 

Well, in the instant chart, the individual could have married very

late. Now the fore most concern in his life is " the child " . There

is no child. That is the basic cause for the quarrels, disputes,

struggles in the family and with his spouse. Even he may think of

his second marriage. I am taking into consideration, the present PD

and the earlier PD, into account. These kinds of problems crop up not

suddenly.

 

Swamy.

 

PS: Do not worry about your failure. I failed thousand times.

Follow this method. You will learn a lot. Of course every house and

every planet has number of significations.

 

At the cost of repetition, I wish to emphasize once again, the

promise available in a chart comes first. See the dasha for its

manifestation. Transit is only a trigger. Use simple techniques of

Parashara.

 

Notice the Saturn and Mars influence in the chart. Mars the

functional malefic for this lagna, the 8th lord in the second house

of extension of family, not only aspects the 5th house but 5th lord

too. Saturn also owns the sixth house placed in 5th house without

any benefic aspect. What is the possible result? There should be

struggles in obtaining progeny. There should be obstacles in the

extension of family.

 

The afflicted 6th lord from the 5th house of emotions influencing the

7th house and the 7th lord. What is the possible result? Disputes

and quarrels with the spouse. Three retrograde planets influence the

7th house. Late marriage is the obvious result.

 

Rahu is transiting over the 6th house of struggles, disputes and

enmity. Transit Ketu is with Saturn and Venus in Leo. (Ketu is

placed in 4th house of domestic happiness) (Just now he enjoyed

Ra/Ke/Sat). Presently he is under going Ra/Ke/Me. Mercury and Sun

influence the 5th house of progeny.

 

Analyze the chart from Moon and Jupiter for children. See the D-9,

you would understand the quality of marriage in the chart.

 

Count how many planets are retrograde in this chart? Notice the

Degrees of Sun, the rising lagna, Venus and Mercury. Understand the

condition of them and co-relate vis-à-vis in the areas of marriage

and child. All nine planets decide the screen play. They tell you

the pathetic story of this man. He should be handsome and

attractive….. am I right? He should be soft spoken. Kindly

confirm. Thanks once again for this chart.

 

There is a classical jail going combination in this chart. Try to

find out. Let Rahu decide what is store in for him.

 

 

 

Dear Swami,

 

For quite some time I have been going through the list messages

thread by thread. In one of your messages, you wrote, an astrologer

should be able to find out the present problem in a chart, with the

help of the dasha and transit or the intention of the person

concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer ) with out himself

or herself telling. This is really interesting. I feel strongly an

able astrologer should find it out. Is it really possible to find

out?

 

I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to locate the

problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and asked my

opinion about the chart in general without telling anything

specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close to the point at

issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of concern. Can you

show me the way how it could be done with an example? Your reply

would just a starting point or a beginning for me. If you like I

provide the data of the person concerned – you may like to offer your

opinion.

 

Please, do not take this message, as I am testing you or your

knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to learn the

subject. Thanks.

 

I most welcome other learned members' opinion also in this regard.

 

Data of the person

Male

September 17, 1963

0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

New Delhi.

 

Regards,

 

Viji

[Guest guest]

Dear Sh. Ashwin, Sh. Bhaskar and Sh. Swamy,

 

I sincerely thank you all for your responses to my question and your

time.

 

The person concerned is facing family problems in general as Ashwin

said. Bhaskar also identified the area of problem i.e., some sort of

unhappiness with his spouse (one can understand the situation not

having a child). Swamy is right that his marriage was late and the

gentleman is very much worried to have a child of their own for quite

some time. He has not been blessed with a child so far after 8

years of marriage.

 

I have to get the feed back about other conclusions of Swamy from my

friend as I have not personally seen the native of the chart. I

would keep you informed.

 

Thank you all once again and for the detailed reasoning (Swamy)

 

Regards

 

Viji

[Guest guest]

Dear Viji,

 

A person at age of 43 would not come to an astrologer

with an Urgent problem of not having a child, specially

if he is an Indian. Because its too late now to think

of that. You must find out the exact nature of the problems

faced, which made him go to the astrologer.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " viji.selvi " <viji.selvi wrote:

>

> Dear Sh. Ashwin, Sh. Bhaskar and Sh. Swamy,

>

> I sincerely thank you all for your responses to my question and your

> time.

>

> The person concerned is facing family problems in general as Ashwin

> said. Bhaskar also identified the area of problem i.e., some sort of

> unhappiness with his spouse (one can understand the situation not

> having a child). Swamy is right that his marriage was late and the

> gentleman is very much worried to have a child of their own for quite

> some time. He has not been blessed with a child so far after 8

> years of marriage.

>

> I have to get the feed back about other conclusions of Swamy from my

> friend as I have not personally seen the native of the chart. I

> would keep you informed.

>

> Thank you all once again and for the detailed reasoning (Swamy)

>

> Regards

>

> Viji

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskarji, Swamy,

 

Here in Canada I know of atleast 2 cases where men have fathered children in

their 60's and is in fact getting more common.

 

regards,

 

enigma

 

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Dear Swamy,

 

Thanks for such wonderful pointers. Thanks to Viji too

for sharing the chart.

 

I have a few points to share. It is not my analysis of

the chart, but would appreciate the comments from all

learned members as it would assist me in my learning.

 

D-9 I have read that it indicates what GOD proposed to

have for a native. So therefore I presume it should

shed a lot of light on aspects whose realization we

see in the Rasi.

 

You have mentioned the native to be attractive. The

lagna in Rasi has venus(beauty) and also sun, a karaka

for vitality and physical constitution(a good

constitution). The D-9 also rises with the Sun.

 

D-9 has a retrograde Saturn, also the second lord of

family in 8th in an inimical sign Leo.In Rasi the

kalathrakaraka Venus is combust(Abt 4+ deg. apart) and

also debilitated. Mars too is in the 2nd in Rasi and

in the 12th in D-9 which could be a dosha. I have

learnt that the dosha in most cases is overcome when

in conjunction and when Mars becomes a Yogakaraka for

few lagnas.Therefore problems in relationships could

be indicated.

 

Further in D-9, the 5th house has Rahu indicating

delays in progeny. Karaka Jupiter is also the 3rd and

the 12th lord which is not a good combination.

 

Retrogression in the case of Mercury must have given

the native an unusual or rather unconventional

thinking . And the native might have a totally

different view of everything including relationships.

 

Pls correct my flaws if any,in understanding that I

have put forth.

 

Regards,

Sripathi

 

--- muthukumaraswamydesigar

<muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote:

 

> Dear Viji,

>

> Thanks for this chart. It is not my idea. That is

> the way I was

> taught Jyotish.

>

> Well, in the instant chart, the individual could

> have married very

> late. Now the fore most concern in his life is " the

> child " . There

> is no child. That is the basic cause for the

> quarrels, disputes,

> struggles in the family and with his spouse. Even

> he may think of

> his second marriage. I am taking into

> consideration, the present PD

> and the earlier PD, into account. These kinds of

> problems crop up not

> suddenly.

>

> Swamy.

>

> PS: Do not worry about your failure. I failed

> thousand times.

> Follow this method. You will learn a lot. Of course

> every house and

> every planet has number of significations.

>

> At the cost of repetition, I wish to emphasize once

> again, the

> promise available in a chart comes first. See the

> dasha for its

> manifestation. Transit is only a trigger. Use

> simple techniques of

> Parashara.

>

> Notice the Saturn and Mars influence in the chart.

> Mars the

> functional malefic for this lagna, the 8th lord in

> the second house

> of extension of family, not only aspects the 5th

> house but 5th lord

> too. Saturn also owns the sixth house placed in 5th

> house without

> any benefic aspect. What is the possible result?

> There should be

> struggles in obtaining progeny. There should be

> obstacles in the

> extension of family.

>

> The afflicted 6th lord from the 5th house of

> emotions influencing the

> 7th house and the 7th lord. What is the possible

> result? Disputes

> and quarrels with the spouse. Three retrograde

> planets influence the

> 7th house. Late marriage is the obvious result.

>

> Rahu is transiting over the 6th house of struggles,

> disputes and

> enmity. Transit Ketu is with Saturn and Venus in

> Leo. (Ketu is

> placed in 4th house of domestic happiness) (Just now

> he enjoyed

> Ra/Ke/Sat). Presently he is under going Ra/Ke/Me.

> Mercury and Sun

> influence the 5th house of progeny.

>

> Analyze the chart from Moon and Jupiter for

> children. See the D-9,

> you would understand the quality of marriage in the

> chart.

>

> Count how many planets are retrograde in this chart?

> Notice the

> Degrees of Sun, the rising lagna, Venus and Mercury.

> Understand the

> condition of them and co-relate vis-à-vis in the

> areas of marriage

> and child. All nine planets decide the screen play.

> They tell you

> the pathetic story of this man. He should be

> handsome and

> attractive….. am I right? He should be soft spoken.

> Kindly

> confirm. Thanks once again for this chart.

>

> There is a classical jail going combination in this

> chart. Try to

> find out. Let Rahu decide what is store in for him.

>

>

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> For quite some time I have been going through the

> list messages

> thread by thread. In one of your messages, you

> wrote, an astrologer

> should be able to find out the present problem in a

> chart, with the

> help of the dasha and transit or the intention of

> the person

> concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer )

> with out himself

> or herself telling. This is really interesting. I

> feel strongly an

> able astrologer should find it out. Is it really

> possible to find

> out?

>

> I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to

> locate the

> problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and

> asked my

> opinion about the chart in general without telling

> anything

> specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close

> to the point at

> issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of

> concern. Can you

> show me the way how it could be done with an

> example? Your reply

> would just a starting point or a beginning for me.

> If you like I

> provide the data of the person concerned – you may

> like to offer your

> opinion.

>

> Please, do not take this message, as I am testing

> you or your

> knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to

> learn the

> subject. Thanks.

>

> I most welcome other learned members' opinion also

> in this regard.

>

> Data of the person

> Male

> September 17, 1963

> 0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

> New Delhi.

>

> Regards,

>

> Viji

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Enigma,

 

Agreed. Becoming a Father in age 70's is also

not a problem for many. 60's is too young a

age for all this.And after 40 man gets naughty.

The above is not our contention.

 

The point here we are talking of,is that

since 8 years of marriage has already been

passed, without becoming a parent, then

at this stage, the native will not come

to the astrologer asking for solutions

about this child problem, because,

this part- visiting

astrologer with regards to child problem

he must have already done, after waiting

for 4-5 years and not being able to father

a child.

 

At age of 43 and after 8 years of

marriage he must be having other Urgent

problems and pressing matters,which would have

led him to seek advice,and not possibly the

child problem, as we see it with common sense.

 

In India, normally people do not have children

at late age, as is the culture here, of course

this is a general rule applicable to the majority.

Since the birth details are given of Indian Birth,I

presume that the native possesses cultural

background of India. I may be wrong though.

 

Rest God knows, the native knows, and

the astrologer visited,knows.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , enigmacmpr wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji, Swamy,

>

> Here in Canada I know of atleast 2 cases where men have fathered

children in their 60's and is in fact getting more common.

>

> regards,

>

> enigma

>

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OM GGANESHAYA NAMAHA

I AM NOT INDICATING IT IS EASY...BUT 1 METHOD IS TO

LOOK AT AD LORD...AND FOCUS ON THE RASHI,BHAVA

6/8...OR 2/12 FROM ITS POSITION..ESPECIALLY ASSOCIATED

WITH FUNCTIONAL MALEFICS.USE ASHTAKVARGA FOR ALMOST

ACCURATE PINPOINTING.

SIDHARTH

 

--- FORTUNE <fortune_chn wrote:

 

> Dear sir

>

> Seeing the planetary influences , I feel that

> family matter would be the area of concern

>

> regards

> Ashwin

> " viji.selvi " <viji.selvi wrote:

> Dear Swami,

>

> For quite some time I have been going through the

> list messages

> thread by thread. In one of your messages, you

> wrote, an astrologer

> should be able to find out the present problem in a

> chart, with the

> help of the dasha and transit or the intention of

> the person

> concerned (why he or she came to the astrologer )

> with out himself

> or herself telling. This is really interesting. I

> feel strongly an

> able astrologer should find it out. Is it really

> possible to find

> out?

>

> I just gave a try to your idea. But I am not able to

> locate the

> problem. Recently, a friend of mine gave a chart and

> asked my

> opinion about the chart in general without telling

> anything

> specific. I tried myself. But I was not even close

> to the point at

> issue. Subsequently my friend told me the area of

> concern. Can you

> show me the way how it could be done with an

> example? Your reply

> would just a starting point or a beginning for me.

> If you like I

> provide the data of the person concerned – you may

> like to offer your

> opinion.

>

> Please, do not take this message, as I am testing

> you or your

> knowledge. It is purely not my intention. I wish to

> learn the

> subject. Thanks.

>

> I most welcome other learned members' opinion also

> in this regard.

>

> Data of the person

> Male

> September 17, 1963

> 0615 hours or 6.15 A.M

> New Delhi.

>

> Regards,

>

> Viji

 

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! -

> their life, your story.

> Play Sims Stories at Games.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sripathi,

 

***You have mentioned the native to be attractive. The

lagna in Rasi has venus (beauty) and also sun, a karaka

for vitality and physical constitution (a good

constitution). The D-9 also rises with the Sun. ***

 

Natural benefic planets in 1:7 axis make a person generally

attractive and handsome. When 1:7 axis is influenced by the natural

benefic planets mean the spouse may also be attractive and

beautiful. Further Navamsa Lagna lord Saturn is aspected by three

natural benefic planets.

 

***Further in D-9, the 5th house has Rahu indicating

delays in progeny. Karaka Jupiter is also the 3rd and

the 12th lord which is not a good combination.***

 

Rahu located in 5th house of Navamsa and its dispositor Venus in

second house of family is an indication of longing for a child.

Now notice the 5th lord of Rasi goes to 8th and aspects Venus, 5th

house and Rahu is the indication of obstacles and struggles to get a

child.

 

***Retrogression in the case of Mercury must have given

the native an unusual or rather unconventional

thinking. And the native might have a totally

different view of everything including relationships.***

 

Mercury is Lagna Lord and 10th lord. Rahu is in the house of

karmas - (the action and the native enjoys his maha dasha), hence

there could be some tinge of unorthodoxy. But the 2nd and 9th lord

Venus is with Lagna Lord and aspected by Jupiter. This counteracts,

and the native could be still having orthodox views.

 

Swamy.

 

PS: I am not correcting anything what you said. Just I am adding my

views.

[Guest guest]

Dear Swamy,

 

Thanks a ton for your inputs. Especially regarding

Mercury and the 1:7 axis.

 

Regards,

Sripathi

 

--- muthukumaraswamydesigar

<muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote:

 

> Dear Sripathi,

>

> ***You have mentioned the native to be attractive.

> The

> lagna in Rasi has venus (beauty) and also sun, a

> karaka

> for vitality and physical constitution (a good

> constitution). The D-9 also rises with the Sun. ***

>

> Natural benefic planets in 1:7 axis make a person

> generally

> attractive and handsome. When 1:7 axis is

> influenced by the natural

> benefic planets mean the spouse may also be

> attractive and

> beautiful. Further Navamsa Lagna lord Saturn is

> aspected by three

> natural benefic planets.

>

> ***Further in D-9, the 5th house has Rahu indicating

> delays in progeny. Karaka Jupiter is also the 3rd

> and

> the 12th lord which is not a good combination.***

>

> Rahu located in 5th house of Navamsa and its

> dispositor Venus in

> second house of family is an indication of longing

> for a child.

> Now notice the 5th lord of Rasi goes to 8th and

> aspects Venus, 5th

> house and Rahu is the indication of obstacles and

> struggles to get a

> child.

>

> ***Retrogression in the case of Mercury must have

> given

> the native an unusual or rather unconventional

> thinking. And the native might have a totally

> different view of everything including

> relationships.***

>

> Mercury is Lagna Lord and 10th lord. Rahu is in the

> house of

> karmas - (the action and the native enjoys his maha

> dasha), hence

> there could be some tinge of unorthodoxy. But the

> 2nd and 9th lord

> Venus is with Lagna Lord and aspected by Jupiter.

> This counteracts,

> and the native could be still having orthodox views.

>

>

> Swamy.

>

> PS: I am not correcting anything what you said.

> Just I am adding my

> views.

>

>

 

 

 

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