Relation between Nadi Shashtra, Bhrighu Samhita and Vedic Jyotish??

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Dear Rohini Ranjan Prabhu

 

Regarding your views about astrologers being limited in their capacity in this

age, unfortunately it is true and will only get worse........

 

The Absolute Truth is very difficult for us to understand, however, because we

are living in the age called Kali-yuga, which is an age of fighting and

misunderstanding. Prayenalpayusaha sabhya kalav asmin yuge janaha. One of the

symptoms of this age is that almost everyone has a very short life span. We

understand from the Vedic literature that in this age one can live for as many

as 100 years. There are four yugas, or ages—Satya-yuga, Treta-yuga, Dvapara-yuga

and Kali-yuga. In the Satya-yuga, or the yuga of truthfulness, we used to live

for 100,000 years. (I say " we used to live " because in fact we are eternal.

although we are changing from one body to the next.) In the next age,

Treta-yuga, the duration of life was reduced to 10,000 years, and in the next,

Dvapara yuga, it was reduced to 1,000 years. Now, in Kali-yuga, our duration of

life is limited to only 100 years. But unfortunately, because we are

fallen—because our bodily strength, our sense of mercy, our memory

and our other good qualities have all been reduced—we do not live for even 100

years. For instance, I am now about eighty years old, so people think that I

have lived very long. But eighty years is nothing; we should actually live for

100 years. Because of our sinful life, however, the time is coming when our

duration of life will be reduced so much that if a man lives for twenty or

thirty years, he will be considered a grand old man.

 

Similarly memory, yogic powers, intelligence, religiosity, everything is

becoming reduced. So how long will it last?

 

Here are the time spans of the cycles:

The duration of the material universe is limited. It is manifested in cycles

of kalpas. A kalpa is a day of Brahma, and one day of Brahma consists of a

thousand cycles of four yugas, or ages: Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali. The

cycle of Satya is characterized by virtue, wisdom and religion, there being

practically no ignorance and vice, and the yuga lasts 1,728,000 years. In the

Tretä-yuga vice is introduced, and this yuga lasts 1,296,000 years. In the

Dväpara-yuga there is an even greater decline in virtue and religion, vice

increasing, and this yuga lasts 864,000 years. And finally in Kali-yuga (the

yuga we have now been experiencing over the past 5,000 years) there is an

abundance of strife, ignorance, irreligion and vice, true virtue being

practically nonexistent, and this yuga lasts 432,000 years.

 

So as you can see we are only at the beginning of Kali Yuga on earth, with

many thousands of years to come - but of course if you go up to the heavenly

planets and spend a few years there - because time goes much faster there (ONE

DAY on Brahmaloka equals 1000 cycles of Yugas on earth) - then by the time you

come down to earthly planets again it may be a different age altogether.

 

Ila devi dasi

 

Best is to aim to get out of the material cycle of birth and death all

together....

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

Namastey Arjunji.

 

While it is wonderful to hear your cybervoice after a lapse of many

days, and hopefully you don't take this post in a negative spirit (I

would not dare post this if I was convinced otherwise!), I have a few

things that came up from your posting.

 

If the nadi readers indeed are good astrologers (as in using logic of

a higher and lower order or at least capable thereof, most times) how

come they have not commented more honestly on the flip-flop reality?

Namely, correct 100% and false 100% of times, given the ability of

the reader (who are all capable astrologers!)?

 

What vital information is missing from this post?

 

The second segment is what I consider more seriously disconcerting

and that really bothers me because I share part of your belief,

namely that the past astrologers were sages and trikalgnas (prnounced

like the 'gn' sandhi in latin languages, as in lasagna).

 

If they were indeed trikalgnas and gave advice (I presume?) that was

way higher in quality to what the best of us can boast or even dream

in current degenerate times) -- WHAT made it possible for humanity to

decline, despite the presence of trikalagnas, to descend to current

times? And what hope does modern humanity have, now that there are

not trikalagnas around, at least not in the high numbers that used to

be way back then and could not manage to keep the spiritual level of

human beings at a high level?

 

Is it all cyclical (and in that case trikalagnas or not, we can only

rise and attain our highest levels and potential) or is it downhill

from here downwards, in which case nadi or not, trikalagna or not,

self-proclaimed or real, we have a charted course, like a sine-wave!

What must go down can only go up, eventually!

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

(vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friend

>

> the nadi lead reading is not alienated from vedic astrology.

>

> the nadi astrology works on the division of humans by their

> fingerprints (biometrics). the only USP of nadi leaf reading is

that

> it gets you the exact date of birth and also the name of the

native,

> parents names and also the spouse name. in my experience 100% nadi

> readings are true as far as past and present are concerned.

however,

> future readings (based on the strength and skill of the reader)

vary

> to 100% correct and 100% false. for example, i visited several

nadis

> few years ago and in all readings the past and present were 100%

true

> but all future predictions were 100% false.

>

> the much touted bhrigu samhita from punjab is only bhrigu nadi like

> any other nadi leaves except that this is the only nadi that has

its

> text written in sanskrit/hindi and all other nadis are in tamil.

>

> all nadi readers are good astrologers as well. they ratify the

date

> of birth by asking the native first the year, then the month and

then

> the date. then they also ask the time i.e. morning, noon, evenng

or

> night. then they cast the horoscope which matches the physical

> characteristics of the native. however, getting the names of all

> family members of the native is something which has been termed as

> written in the leaves and some reaserchers (an eminent astrologer

has

> mentioned this in his published research) even attributed to some

> karna pisachi telling these names in the ears of the nadireader.

>

> nadi leaf reading is the best prognostic technique in the present

> world for micro level predictions (sukshma) as far as past and

> present is concerned. however, to present vedic astrology (which

is

> a vedanga)as inferior is wrong.

>

> in yesteryears, there were no astrologers. almost all sages were

> called trikalajnanis i.e. those who knew the past, present and

> future. they simply close their eyes and see/say everything which

is

> also called clairvoyance. so there was no need to know the names

and

> birth details to predict. however, in the present modern kaliyuga,

> the sage like persons are very rare and hence natives take the help

> of vedic astrology.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> vedic astrology , NAWAB RAHUL <cool_extacy@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namo Narayanay...

> >

> > Can anyone tell me what is the relation between Nadi Shastras,

> Bhrigu Samhita and Vedic Jyotish ??

> >

> > How can using Astrological Principles can someone predict the

> name of the native and his family members....all his life in entire

> detail as is done in Nadi Shashtra and Bhrighu Samhita...What

> principle they work on ???...

> >

> > I have seen many times the prophecies done by normal

astrologers

> do go wrong....But Shashtra's like Nadi , Bhrigu Samhita and Aarun

> Samhita gives each and every detail of the native's

life...including

> the names of their family members and even the date of his death

and

> very minute details.......Why can not we have such kind of

> predictions with Vedic Astrology????

> >

> > I will also like to know if ever any Nadi prediction went wrong

> for someone on this forum?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rahul

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ila devi dasi MVS napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan Prabhu

>

> Regarding your views about astrologers being limited in their capacity

> in this age, unfortunately it is true and will only get worse....... .

>

> The Absolute Truth is very difficult for us to understand, however,

> because we are living in the age called Kali-yuga, which is an age of

> fighting and misunderstanding. Prayenalpayusaha sabhya kalav asmin

> yuge janaha. One of the symptoms of this age is that almost everyone

> has a very short life span. We understand from the Vedic literature

> that in this age one can live for as many as 100 years. There are four

> yugas, or ages---Satya-yuga, Treta-yuga, Dvapara-yuga and Kali-yuga.

> In the Satya-yuga, or the yuga of truthfulness, we used to live for

> 100,000 years. (I say " we used to live " because in fact we are

> eternal. although we are changing from one body to the next.) In the

> next age, Treta-yuga, the duration of life was reduced to 10,000

> years, and in the next, Dvapara yuga, it was reduced to 1,000 years.

> Now, in Kali-yuga, our duration of life is limited to only 100 years.

> But unfortunately, because we are fallen---because our bodily

> strength, our sense of mercy, our memory

> and our other good qualities have all been reduced---we do not live

> for even 100 years. For instance, I am now about eighty years old, so

> people think that I have lived very long. But eighty years is nothing;

> we should actually live for 100 years. Because of our sinful life,

> however, the time is coming when our duration of life will be reduced

> so much that if a man lives for twenty or thirty years, he will be

> considered a grand old man.

>

> Similarly memory, yogic powers, intelligence, religiosity, everything

> is becoming reduced. So how long will it last?

>

> Here are the time spans of the cycles:

> The duration of the material universe is limited. It is manifested in

> cycles of kalpas. A kalpa is a day of Brahma, and one day of Brahma

> consists of a thousand cycles of four yugas, or ages: Satya, Treta,

> Dvapara and Kali. The cycle of Satya is characterized by virtue,

> wisdom and religion, there being practically no ignorance and vice,

> and the yuga lasts 1,728,000 years. In the Tretä-yuga vice is

> introduced, and this yuga lasts 1,296,000 years. In the Dväpara-yuga

> there is an even greater decline in virtue and religion, vice

> increasing, and this yuga lasts 864,000 years. And finally in

> Kali-yuga (the yuga we have now been experiencing over the past 5,000

> years) there is an abundance of strife, ignorance, irreligion and

> vice, true virtue being practically nonexistent, and this yuga lasts

> 432,000 years.

>

> So as you can see we are only at the beginning of Kali Yuga on earth,

> with many thousands of years to come - but of course if you go up to

> the heavenly planets and spend a few years there - because time goes

> much faster there (ONE DAY on Brahmaloka equals 1000 cycles of Yugas

> on earth) - then by the time you come down to earthly planets again it

> may be a different age altogether.

>

> Ila devi dasi

>

> Best is to aim to get out of the material cycle of birth and death all

> together....

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com

> <rohini_ranjan%40hotmail.com>> wrote:

> Namastey Arjunji.

>

> While it is wonderful to hear your cybervoice after a lapse of many

> days, and hopefully you don't take this post in a negative spirit (I

> would not dare post this if I was convinced otherwise!), I have a few

> things that came up from your posting.

>

> If the nadi readers indeed are good astrologers (as in using logic of

> a higher and lower order or at least capable thereof, most times) how

> come they have not commented more honestly on the flip-flop reality?

> Namely, correct 100% and false 100% of times, given the ability of

> the reader (who are all capable astrologers! )?

>

> What vital information is missing from this post?

>

> The second segment is what I consider more seriously disconcerting

> and that really bothers me because I share part of your belief,

> namely that the past astrologers were sages and trikalgnas (prnounced

> like the 'gn' sandhi in latin languages, as in lasagna).

>

> If they were indeed trikalgnas and gave advice (I presume?) that was

> way higher in quality to what the best of us can boast or even dream

> in current degenerate times) -- WHAT made it possible for humanity to

> decline, despite the presence of trikalagnas, to descend to current

> times? And what hope does modern humanity have, now that there are

> not trikalagnas around, at least not in the high numbers that used to

> be way back then and could not manage to keep the spiritual level of

> human beings at a high level?

>

> Is it all cyclical (and in that case trikalagnas or not, we can only

> rise and attain our highest levels and potential) or is it downhill

> from here downwards, in which case nadi or not, trikalagna or not,

> self-proclaimed or real, we have a charted course, like a sine-wave!

> What must go down can only go up, eventually!

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> (vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend

> >

> > the nadi lead reading is not alienated from vedic astrology.

> >

> > the nadi astrology works on the division of humans by their

> > fingerprints (biometrics) . the only USP of nadi leaf reading is

> that

> > it gets you the exact date of birth and also the name of the

> native,

> > parents names and also the spouse name. in my experience 100% nadi

> > readings are true as far as past and present are concerned.

> however,

> > future readings (based on the strength and skill of the reader)

> vary

> > to 100% correct and 100% false. for example, i visited several

> nadis

> > few years ago and in all readings the past and present were 100%

> true

> > but all future predictions were 100% false.

> >

> > the much touted bhrigu samhita from punjab is only bhrigu nadi like

> > any other nadi leaves except that this is the only nadi that has

> its

> > text written in sanskrit/hindi and all other nadis are in tamil.

> >

> > all nadi readers are good astrologers as well. they ratify the

> date

> > of birth by asking the native first the year, then the month and

> then

> > the date. then they also ask the time i.e. morning, noon, evenng

> or

> > night. then they cast the horoscope which matches the physical

> > characteristics of the native. however, getting the names of all

> > family members of the native is something which has been termed as

> > written in the leaves and some reaserchers (an eminent astrologer

> has

> > mentioned this in his published research) even attributed to some

> > karna pisachi telling these names in the ears of the nadireader.

> >

> > nadi leaf reading is the best prognostic technique in the present

> > world for micro level predictions (sukshma) as far as past and

> > present is concerned. however, to present vedic astrology (which

> is

> > a vedanga)as inferior is wrong.

> >

> > in yesteryears, there were no astrologers. almost all sages were

> > called trikalajnanis i.e. those who knew the past, present and

> > future. they simply close their eyes and see/say everything which

> is

> > also called clairvoyance. so there was no need to know the names

> and

> > birth details to predict. however, in the present modern kaliyuga,

> > the sage like persons are very rare and hence natives take the help

> > of vedic astrology.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> >

> > vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, NAWAB RAHUL <cool_extacy@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namo Narayanay...

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me what is the relation between Nadi Shastras,

> > Bhrigu Samhita and Vedic Jyotish ??

> > >

> > > How can using Astrological Principles can someone predict the

> > name of the native and his family members....all his life in entire

> > detail as is done in Nadi Shashtra and Bhrighu Samhita...What

> > principle they work on ???...

> > >

> > > I have seen many times the prophecies done by normal

> astrologers

> > do go wrong....But Shashtra's like Nadi , Bhrigu Samhita and Aarun

> > Samhita gives each and every detail of the native's

> life...including

> > the names of their family members and even the date of his death

> and

> > very minute details..... ..Why can not we have such kind of

> > predictions with Vedic Astrology??? ?

> > >

> > > I will also like to know if ever any Nadi prediction went wrong

> > for someone on this forum?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rahul

> > >

> > >

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