Guest guest Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 respected Krushnaji and learned list members, here is the birth detail of one of my friend. he is very senior govt officer. since his jup-ketu started he was facing enemity in his office and enemity has gone so far that last saturday he has got suspension letter. he is running now jup-ketu i am unable to understand how ketu will behave here. please see that mars is 12th lord of 6th house and this has happened when sun was transiting rahu's star and rahu is in mars sign and also samadharmi to mars and sat. jup gives very low point (10) for 6th house. sat also gives low point (9). mars gives just 12 points. but none of these planets' (mars & sat) sub was running. ketu sub is running and ketu is in venus house. venus is E lord and gives 18 point-which is much better. so this should not have happened. will u please through some light that how this has happened and also when he should come out of this problem. in my view when sun will transit ven star in leo from 3rd sept next, the position will be better as 1. ven is E lord 2. ven sub will then run can you please tell me if i am right? warm regards dasgupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Dear Margarita, Ash, Dasgupta, and other list member, Margarita, you are mostly given good reading. Now the Moon in close situation to Rahu, makes the person eccentric. He may not realise his acts. Some times it seems that he is doing deliberately, but near Purnima (Full Moon day) and Amavashya ( Moon near to Sun) the person acts lunatic. This might be the reason for his enmity. Now observe the Venuas in Navamansha chart, it is samdharmi to Sun, being in the navmansha of Sun. So Venus also represents Sun. Sun is second lord. When the sub of Second lord is running the person gets noncooperation from his subordinates. Jupiter being the Karak for 2nd house, and also situated in 6th house, enhances the result of 2nd lord or it's samdharmi. Sun is not good for 10th house. The result is of cumulative effect of all the houses. Next sub is of Sun, Moon, Mars, and then Rahu. No body is favourable for 10th house. After 5 years Saturn will be travelling from 2nd house, where it is having Zero point. If we go to the last period of Rahu, His behevior have been ignored by his colligues, Venus being 11th lord. In Jupiter Main period, it must have been exceeded beyond tolerable limit. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Dagsputa, > I looked at your friend's chart and Ash is right that > according to Krushna's ayanamsa your friend is now running > Jupiter/Venus since september 2001. > I think we have have to look at the mainlord first. The > native is now in his 5th Venus bukti and nothing similar > seems to have happed in former periods. So let's look at > the combination of Jupiter/Venus. > Jupiter is lord of the 6th for Cancer ascendent. He's > considered particularly bad for this ascendent, except in > the 6th house were he is positioned because of his 7 > points. But Jupiter is hurting Moon and Venus, the 10th, > 12th and 2nd houses. > In a recent mail Krushna stated that the 6th house could be > considered as a " black hole " . So Jupiter is in this black > hole, his own house and will probably lose a lot of his > qualities. We also see that Jupiter is in Ketu nakshatra > and with Ketu in navamsha; this gives a chandal yoga that > spoils Jupiter. > Jupiter is also in a trik house in navamsha and trimsamsa. > He's in the 2nd house in drekkana, not a good position > either. > Generally speaking we cannot say that Jupiter dasha will be > a blessing. > As to Venus, her points are not weak. She is spoiled by > Jupiter of course and is also placed in the 10th place from > the Mars/Saturn conjunction, so there is this influence too > I think. We also see the Moon very close to Rahu in Rasi > and navamsha. So perhaps the enmity he is facing comes > through a certain inflexibility of his part. We see that > lately Saturn has transited his Sun and Moon; this transit > is nearly over but it certainly affected his mood and he > was perhaps somewhat disturbed. The chart also indicates a > strong character (Mars/Saturn in the asc=moon sign / > angular Moon and Rahu in mars sign = emotional outbursts) > We must not forget either that Venus is samdharmi to the > Moon and can give results for Moon because her bukti comes > first. > If we look at the 6th house as B, Moon becomes karaka for > the 6th; she is spoiled by Rahu and aspect of Jupiter. The > 12th lord is also in house A. So I just wondered if Venus > is not acting for the Moon ?????? > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Thank you very much Krushna for comenting on this chart. I had overlooked Venus in Leo sign in navamsha. This gives a new picture with involvement of the 2nd lord. Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:25 PM Re: friend's chart Dear Margarita, Ash, Dasgupta, and other list member, Margarita, you are mostly given good reading. Now the Moon in close situation to Rahu, makes the person eccentric. He may not realise his acts. Some times it seems that he is doing deliberately, but near Purnima (Full Moon day) and Amavashya ( Moon near to Sun) the person acts lunatic. This might be the reason for his enmity. Now observe the Venuas in Navamansha chart, it is samdharmi to Sun, being in the navmansha of Sun. So Venus also represents Sun. Sun is second lord. When the sub of Second lord is running the person gets noncooperation from his subordinates. Jupiter being the Karak for 2nd house, and also situated in 6th house, enhances the result of 2nd lord or it's samdharmi. Sun is not good for 10th house. The result is of cumulative effect of all the houses. Next sub is of Sun, Moon, Mars, and then Rahu. No body is favourable for 10th house. After 5 years Saturn will be travelling from 2nd house, where it is having Zero point. If we go to the last period of Rahu, His behevior have been ignored by his colligues, Venus being 11th lord. In Jupiter Main period, it must have been exceeded beyond tolerable limit. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Dagsputa, > I looked at your friend's chart and Ash is right that > according to Krushna's ayanamsa your friend is now running > Jupiter/Venus since september 2001. > I think we have have to look at the mainlord first. The > native is now in his 5th Venus bukti and nothing similar > seems to have happed in former periods. So let's look at > the combination of Jupiter/Venus. > Jupiter is lord of the 6th for Cancer ascendent. He's > considered particularly bad for this ascendent, except in > the 6th house were he is positioned because of his 7 > points. But Jupiter is hurting Moon and Venus, the 10th, > 12th and 2nd houses. > In a recent mail Krushna stated that the 6th house could be > considered as a " black hole " . So Jupiter is in this black > hole, his own house and will probably lose a lot of his > qualities. We also see that Jupiter is in Ketu nakshatra > and with Ketu in navamsha; this gives a chandal yoga that > spoils Jupiter. > Jupiter is also in a trik house in navamsha and trimsamsa. > He's in the 2nd house in drekkana, not a good position > either. > Generally speaking we cannot say that Jupiter dasha will be > a blessing. > As to Venus, her points are not weak. She is spoiled by > Jupiter of course and is also placed in the 10th place from > the Mars/Saturn conjunction, so there is this influence too > I think. We also see the Moon very close to Rahu in Rasi > and navamsha. So perhaps the enmity he is facing comes > through a certain inflexibility of his part. We see that > lately Saturn has transited his Sun and Moon; this transit > is nearly over but it certainly affected his mood and he > was perhaps somewhat disturbed. The chart also indicates a > strong character (Mars/Saturn in the asc=moon sign / > angular Moon and Rahu in mars sign = emotional outbursts) > We must not forget either that Venus is samdharmi to the > Moon and can give results for Moon because her bukti comes > first. > If we look at the 6th house as B, Moon becomes karaka for > the 6th; she is spoiled by Rahu and aspect of Jupiter. The > 12th lord is also in house A. So I just wondered if Venus > is not acting for the Moon ?????? > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 dear margarita, thank u very much for the detailed reply. i am posting answer to krushnaji's mail seperately. while i follow what u say, doubt arises with the fact that jup MD has not been bad for him. he suffered similar problen in past also in rahu-ven period and was out of it with full honour in jup-jup. but when we see jup in D10 also, it is 7th and 5th lord debilated in 8th but giving 7 points to D10 7th house & 5 point to D10 10th house. please see my mail to krushnaji also. regards dasgupta - dmlettens Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) (DOT) Com Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:07 PM friend's chart Hello Dagsputa,I looked at your friend's chart and Ash is right thataccording to Krushna's ayanamsa your friend is now runningJupiter/Venus since september 2001.I think we have have to look at the mainlord first. Thenative is now in his 5th Venus bukti and nothing similarseems to have happed in former periods. So let's look atthe combination of Jupiter/Venus.Jupiter is lord of the 6th for Cancer ascendent. He'sconsidered particularly bad for this ascendent, except inthe 6th house were he is positioned because of his 7points. But Jupiter is hurting Moon and Venus, the 10th,12th and 2nd houses.In a recent mail Krushna stated that the 6th house could beconsidered as a "black hole". So Jupiter is in this blackhole, his own house and will probably lose a lot of hisqualities. We also see that Jupiter is in Ketu nakshatraand with Ketu in navamsha; this gives a chandal yoga thatspoils Jupiter.Jupiter is also in a trik house in navamsha and trimsamsa.He's in the 2nd house in drekkana, not a good positioneither.Generally speaking we cannot say that Jupiter dasha will bea blessing.As to Venus, her points are not weak. She is spoiled byJupiter of course and is also placed in the 10th place fromthe Mars/Saturn conjunction, so there is this influence tooI think. We also see the Moon very close to Rahu in Rasiand navamsha. So perhaps the enmity he is facing comesthrough a certain inflexibility of his part. We see thatlately Saturn has transited his Sun and Moon; this transitis nearly over but it certainly affected his mood and hewas perhaps somewhat disturbed. The chart also indicates astrong character (Mars/Saturn in the asc=moon sign /angular Moon and Rahu in mars sign = emotional outbursts)We must not forget either that Venus is samdharmi to theMoon and can give results for Moon because her bukti comesfirst.If we look at the 6th house as B, Moon becomes karaka forthe 6th; she is spoiled by Rahu and aspect of Jupiter. The12th lord is also in house A. So I just wondered if Venusis not acting for the Moon ??????Best regardsMargarita---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date:6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Dear Margarita and list members, Regarding Samdharmi: I think you all knows how to find the samdharmi planet. It is easy. When samdharmi operates: 1) it operates when the main Planet is aspecting the main upchay house/s. In this case it will operate when it will get chance. 2) If the main planet is situated in the sign of sixth lord or in sixth house. 3) If it is having more points, for the place it is situated, and if it's sub dasha falls just before. 4) if the samdharmi is lord of or situated in the house D or E for the house the house the main planet ( to whom it is samdharmi) In general, Saqmdharmi planet gives the result as and when it gets the chance. for cases 2,3,4 it may operate if the sub period comes before the main planet. I think this will make concept of samdharmi more clear. Your second question: 4/10 relationship. If the planet in 10th house is with more points then the planet in 4th house, then the planet in 4th will not help, on the contrary it may creat some problem. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > Thank you for the comments on this chart. For me it stays a > complicated chart but very interesting because of the > samdharmi. > If a planet is samdharmi to more than one other planet > things really become complicated because so many things are > involved. > It's all clear when events have happened, but to see how a > future bukti will develop is not easy. In this case of > course similar thing happened before and this could have > been a clue. > Like ash, I don't understand the points you mentioned for > Jupiter > In the chart of the religious man I submitted there is also > this same 4/10 relationship between Venus and Saturn; Venus > having more points. This 4/10 relationship is a matter I > tend to overlook. What about this relationship in the > navamsha where no points are given ????? > I hope slowly slowly things will become more clear > Best regards > Margarita > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 hmmm. Maybe I have not used the group appropriately, since no one has chosen to respond to this message? jyotish-vidya , " kalikat18 " <kalikat wrote: > > I have a friend who has pisces lagna. In mars dasa. Mars in aquarius > with swa saturn. Will mars dasa be supported by being situated with > strong saturn in dusthana? Experience is showing that this is a very > difficult time for her, yet some say that dasa lord will be supported > by being with a strong dispositor, regardless of dignity or the > dispositor not being a friend. > > her info: > 1/28/1966 > san francisco, ca > 10.26 pm PST > > Any thoughts? thanks! > kalika > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dear Kalika, Apologies for the lack of response to your query. For my part I've been somewhat preoccupied off-list this past week...and even now, not a lot of time to spare. However a quick observation (for now) might foster some participation from our other members :-) You (also) could generate more interest in the chart by offering your own views on the current dasa... A Brief Look: As 6th lord Saturn is inimical towards dasa lord Mars we need to discern the possible implications of this conjunction. One view is Mars, dispositor of 11th lord Moon, occupying 11th from Moon. 11th, as we know, signifies profits and gains, auspicious events, circle of friends, community and so forth. 8th signifies family of spouse, wealth of spouse, unearned income, inheritance etc.. Saturn's inimical relationship with Mars can indicate some difficulties in these areas...setbacks, delays, disappointments... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " kalikat18 " <kalikat <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:31 AM Re: Friend's chart hmmm. Maybe I have not used the group appropriately, since no one has chosen to respond to this message? jyotish-vidya , " kalikat18 " <kalikat wrote: > > I have a friend who has pisces lagna. In mars dasa. Mars in aquarius > with swa saturn. Will mars dasa be supported by being situated with > strong saturn in dusthana? Experience is showing that this is a very > difficult time for her, yet some say that dasa lord will be supported > by being with a strong dispositor, regardless of dignity or the > dispositor not being a friend. > > her info: > 1/28/1966 > san francisco, ca > 10.26 pm PST > > Any thoughts? thanks! > kalika > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3004 (20080405) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Wendy thank you .... although I realize through your response that I gave the wrong time , it is 10.26 am not pm. so sorry. mercury is debilitated and I'm in mercury bhukti, been making lots of mistakes like this recently. My thoughts on this are that it will be a very tough dasa for her, best bet is to cultivate renunciation throughout as mars is weakened in the 12H with a strong saturn. I am wondering if saturn's strength as a house lord for mars will make it easier for mars rather than harder - my guess is no. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Kalika, > > Apologies for the lack of response to your query. For my part I've been > somewhat preoccupied off-list this past week...and even now, not a lot of > time to spare. However a quick observation (for now) might foster some > participation from our other members :-) > > You (also) could generate more interest in the chart by offering your own > views on the current dasa... > > A Brief Look: > As 6th lord Saturn is inimical towards dasa lord Mars we need to discern the > possible implications of this conjunction. > One view is Mars, dispositor of 11th lord Moon, occupying 11th from Moon. > 11th, as we know, signifies profits and gains, auspicious events, circle of > friends, community and so forth. 8th signifies family of spouse, wealth of > spouse, unearned income, inheritance etc.. > > Saturn's inimical relationship with Mars can indicate some difficulties in > these areas...setbacks, delays, disappointments... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Dear Kalika, //thank you .... although I realize through your response that I gave the wrong time , it is 10.26 am not pm.// I (also) made an additional error by entering 10:36 rather than 10:26. It's said that affliction to 9th can spoil the astrologers accuracy thereby inhibiting a correct reading. In this chart, Ketu (planet of hindrance) occupies 9th in nakshatra of 12th lord Saturn who conjuncts 9th lord Mars in 12th... //mercury is debilitated and I'm in mercury bhukti, been making lots of mistakes like this recently.// I can certainly relate to that! For my part, transit dasa lord Mercury debilitated in 3rd, is combust 8th lord Sun...certainly not the best time to attempt to read a chart...mistakes more than likely! //My thoughts on this are that it will be a very tough dasa for her, best bet is to cultivate renunciation throughout as mars is weakened in the 12H with a strong saturn.// First thing to consider here is the effect on 9th with Ketu occupying whilst 9th lord is conjunct Saturn in 12th. As we know, 9th governs such important things as support of nature, solution to problems, good fortune etc.. According to Parasara, Ketu gets exalted in Scorpio. This can indicate a strong (unusual and/or discriminative) interest towards matters of religion, philosophy and so forth...none-the-less some unexpected/intermittent obstructions should be expected in regards to 9th house significations. We (also) see other unusual aspects of 9th with karaka Jupiter aspecting from 3rd. Jupiter, in house of great enemy, is in retrograde motion and conjunct Rahu (co-owner of 12th). //I am wondering if saturn's strength as a house lord for mars will make it easier for mars rather than harder - my guess is no// The inclination towards moksha/renunciation should be strong, no doubt, during this dasa If my calculations are correct the native begins Saturn P/D in a few days time. Transit Saturn (and Ketu) are passing through 6th in nakshatra of Ketu himself. As you know, Saturn's nature is introspective as he seeks to draw us inward. He fosters detachment, meditation, inner silence and is often termed as the 'gate to enlightenment'. Consider then the dual influence of natal and transit Saturn on dasa lord Mars... I look forward to your thoughts on this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " kalikat18 " <kalikat <jyotish-vidya > Monday, April 07, 2008 4:39 AM Re: Friend's chart Wendy thank you .... although I realize through your response that I gave the wrong time , it is 10.26 am not pm. so sorry. mercury is debilitated and I'm in mercury bhukti, been making lots of mistakes like this recently. My thoughts on this are that it will be a very tough dasa for her, best bet is to cultivate renunciation throughout as mars is weakened in the 12H with a strong saturn. I am wondering if saturn's strength as a house lord for mars will make it easier for mars rather than harder - my guess is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Sorry to advise you, but as a general rule, I never re-study a chart, whenever a native initially does not have the seriousness to give a proper birth data, and then re-gives the same, not having thoughts on the time spent and the efforts the astrologer would be spending on this initial data given by him. i do not forgive those who do this, and never re-look their charts. You are very lenient though, fortunately for the native. best regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Kalika, > > //thank you .... although I realize through your response that I gave > the wrong time , it is 10.26 am not pm.// > > I (also) made an additional error by entering 10:36 rather than 10:26. > It's said that affliction to 9th can spoil the astrologers accuracy thereby > inhibiting a correct reading. In this chart, Ketu (planet of hindrance) > occupies 9th in nakshatra of 12th lord Saturn who conjuncts 9th lord Mars in > 12th... > > //mercury is debilitated and I'm in mercury bhukti, been making lots of > mistakes like this recently.// > > I can certainly relate to that! For my part, transit dasa lord Mercury > debilitated in 3rd, is combust 8th lord Sun...certainly not the best time to > attempt to read a chart...mistakes more than likely! > > //My thoughts on this are that it will be a very tough dasa for her, > best bet is to cultivate renunciation throughout as mars is weakened > in the 12H with a strong saturn.// > > First thing to consider here is the effect on 9th with Ketu occupying whilst > 9th lord is conjunct Saturn in 12th. As we know, 9th governs such important > things as support of nature, solution to problems, good fortune etc.. > According to Parasara, Ketu gets exalted in Scorpio. This can indicate a > strong (unusual and/or discriminative) interest towards matters of religion, > philosophy and so forth...none-the-less some unexpected/intermittent > obstructions should be expected in regards to 9th house significations. We > (also) see other unusual aspects of 9th with karaka Jupiter aspecting from > 3rd. Jupiter, in house of great enemy, is in retrograde motion and conjunct > Rahu (co-owner of 12th). > > //I am wondering if saturn's strength as a house lord for mars will make it > easier for mars rather than harder - my guess is no// > > The inclination towards moksha/renunciation should be strong, no doubt, > during this dasa If my calculations are correct the native begins Saturn > P/D in a few days time. Transit Saturn (and Ketu) are passing through 6th in > nakshatra of Ketu himself. As you know, Saturn's nature is introspective as > he seeks to draw us inward. He fosters detachment, meditation, inner silence > and is often termed as the 'gate to enlightenment'. > > Consider then the dual influence of natal and transit Saturn on dasa lord > Mars... > > I look forward to your thoughts on this :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " kalikat18 " <kalikat > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, April 07, 2008 4:39 AM > Re: Friend's chart > > > Wendy > thank you .... although I realize through your response that I gave > the wrong time , it is 10.26 am not pm. > so sorry. > mercury is debilitated and I'm in mercury bhukti, been making lots of > mistakes like this recently. > > My thoughts on this are that it will be a very tough dasa for her, > best bet is to cultivate renunciation throughout as mars is weakened > in the 12H with a strong saturn. I am wondering if saturn's strength > as a house lord for mars will make it easier for mars rather than > harder - my guess is no. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, The possibility is there, should Kalika decide to respond, that the group (yourself included) may actually learn something from the open discussion of this chart. If Kalika chooses not to respond and the opportunity is lost then so be it, the group can quite easily revert back to silence..which perhaps might be of greater value considering the current transits. Either way Bhaskar, we need not resort to recriminations. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:18 AM Re: Friend's chart Dear Mrs. Wendy, Sorry to advise you, but as a general rule, I never re-study a chart, whenever a native initially does not have the seriousness to give a proper birth data, and then re-gives the same, not having thoughts on the time spent and the efforts the astrologer would be spending on this initial data given by him. i do not forgive those who do this, and never re-look their charts. You are very lenient though, fortunately for the native. best regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Wendy Thank you for your response, despite the wrong time given initially. odd, as she is a friend of mine....I chalk it up to deb. me, as I mentioned before. " Transit Saturn (and Ketu) are passing through 6th in nakshatra of Ketu himself. As you know, Saturn's nature is introspective as he seeks to draw us inward. He fosters detachment, meditation, inner silence and is often termed as the 'gate to enlightenment'. Consider then the dual influence of natal and transit Saturn on dasa lord Mars... " She is definitely in a withdrawn state, she has not returned my phone calls or messages, not sure what it going on. She was homeless for some time, and when mars went retrograde she lost her car. I have heard from mutual friends that since mars went direct she now has a home and a car, but i dont know about job. It sounds like you use nakshatra lords as strongly as grahas, such as in transit. I don't often, thank you for the insight, I will try this as well. I have been attempting to rectify a chart, would this be the right forum to present that information? it is a " famous person " vs. friend, and can't quite determine the time of birth based on life circumstances. namaste kalika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Kalika, You Wrote: //She was homeless for some time, and when mars went retrograde she lost her car.// It would be helpful to have some (specific) dates... However dasa lord Mars transiting 4th house (home, home comforts, vehicles etc) shows the events.. //It sounds like you use nakshatra lords as strongly as grahas, such as in transit. I don't often, thank you for the insight, I will try this as well.// There is a dictum in one of the classics (which I can't quite remember verbatim) that says; " Such & such graha gives favourable results when in own nakshatra or in nakshatra of such & such graha " Unfortunately I can't remember where I read that now...perhaps some other member can help. Besides, our own common-sense should tell us the importance of nakshatra lord when deciding the results of (any) graha, given the fact that Vimsottari dasa system is based on this. NB: Jaimini dasas are, of course, based on other principles. It would be a mistake therefore (in my opinion) to apply this dictum when following the (Jaimini) method. //I have been attempting to rectify a chart, would this be the right forum to present that information? it is a " famous person " vs. friend, and can't quite determine the time of birth based on life circumstances.// By all means please do put the chart forward when you have time :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Marcia " <kalikat <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:59 AM Re: Friend's chart Wendy Thank you for your response, despite the wrong time given initially. odd, as she is a friend of mine....I chalk it up to deb. me, as I mentioned before. " Transit Saturn (and Ketu) are passing through 6th in nakshatra of Ketu himself. As you know, Saturn's nature is introspective as he seeks to draw us inward. He fosters detachment, meditation, inner silence and is often termed as the 'gate to enlightenment'. Consider then the dual influence of natal and transit Saturn on dasa lord Mars... " She is definitely in a withdrawn state, she has not returned my phone calls or messages, not sure what it going on. She was homeless for some time, and when mars went retrograde she lost her car. I have heard from mutual friends that since mars went direct she now has a home and a car, but i dont know about job. It sounds like you use nakshatra lords as strongly as grahas, such as in transit. I don't often, thank you for the insight, I will try this as well. I have been attempting to rectify a chart, would this be the right forum to present that information? it is a " famous person " vs. friend, and can't quite determine the time of birth based on life circumstances. namaste kalika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Wendy, Can you discuss the significance of Nakshatra Lord in analyzing a chart? Thanks Kumar jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Kalika, > > You Wrote: > //She was homeless for some time, and when mars went retrograde she lost her > car.// > > It would be helpful to have some (specific) dates... > However dasa lord Mars transiting 4th house (home, home comforts, vehicles > etc) shows the events.. > > //It sounds like you use nakshatra lords as strongly as grahas, such as > in transit. I don't often, thank you for the insight, I will try this as > well.// > > There is a dictum in one of the classics (which I can't quite remember > verbatim) that says; > > " Such & such graha gives favourable results when in own nakshatra or in > nakshatra of such & such graha " > > Unfortunately I can't remember where I read that now...perhaps some other > member can help. > Besides, our own common-sense should tell us the importance of nakshatra > lord when deciding the results of (any) graha, given the fact that > Vimsottari dasa system is based on this. > NB: Jaimini dasas are, of course, based on other principles. It would be a > mistake therefore (in my opinion) to apply this dictum when following the > (Jaimini) method. > > //I have been attempting to rectify a chart, would this be the right forum > to present that information? it is a " famous person " vs. friend, and > can't quite determine the time of birth based on life circumstances.// > > By all means please do put the chart forward when you have time :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Marcia " <kalikat > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:59 AM > Re: Friend's chart > > > Wendy > Thank you for your response, despite the wrong time given initially. > odd, as she is a friend of mine....I chalk it up to deb. me, as I mentioned > before. > > > " Transit Saturn (and Ketu) are passing through 6th in > nakshatra of Ketu himself. As you know, Saturn's nature is introspective as > he seeks to draw us inward. He fosters detachment, meditation, inner silence > and is often termed as the 'gate to enlightenment'. > Consider then the dual influence of natal and transit Saturn on dasa lord > Mars... " > > > She is definitely in a withdrawn state, she has not returned my phone calls > or messages, not sure what it going on. She was homeless for some > time, and when mars went retrograde she lost her car. I have heard from > mutual friends that since mars went direct she now has a home and a car, but > i dont know about job. > It sounds like you use nakshatra lords as strongly as grahas, such as > in transit. I don't often, thank you for the insight, I will try this as > well. > I have been attempting to rectify a chart, would this be the right forum > to present that information? it is a " famous person " vs. friend, and > can't quite determine the time of birth based on life circumstances. > namaste > kalika > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Kumar, In the simplest terms, the quality of the planet is influenced by the whole cosmos...in much the same way as we ourselves are influenced by the environment we find ourselves in. This is the case in all of nature! For instance horticulturalists will tell us that certain plants don't fare well when planted close together whilst others seem to be quite beneficial to each other...everything in nature, everything in the cosmos, is closely interrelated. Naturally, as Moon is of such importance, strong emphasis is given to Moon's nakshatra (birth star). However the same interrelationship exists with everything in the cosmos... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Kumar Arumugam " <kumar58 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:37 AM Re: Friend's chart Dear Wendy, Can you discuss the significance of Nakshatra Lord in analyzing a chart? Thanks Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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