Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Dear Balaji, //I have always felt that democracy is Sani's forte--equality. Of course, communism also involves equality to an extent...// Democracy is based on individual freedom/self-expression. Communism denies individual freedom/self-expression. As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:39 PM Re: China Quake Wendy ji, ///The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, 1949, 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China./// Thanks. Will have a look. BTW, what is the Lagna you are getting? ///Communism, as we know, is a signification of Saturn/// I have always felt that democracy is Sani's forte--equality. Of course, communism also involves equality to an extent... ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3097 (20080514) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Apologies...forgot to respond to this question. //BTW, what is the Lagna you are getting?// Lagna: Capricorn 05:16:44 __________________________ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:17 PM Re: Re: China Quake Dear Balaji, //I have always felt that democracy is Sani's forte--equality. Of course, communism also involves equality to an extent...// Democracy is based on individual freedom/self-expression. Communism denies individual freedom/self-expression. As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:39 PM Re: China Quake Wendy ji, ///The People's Republic of China was formally established on October 1, 1949, 3:01:36 pm CCT, Beijing, China./// Thanks. Will have a look. BTW, what is the Lagna you are getting? ///Communism, as we know, is a signification of Saturn/// I have always felt that democracy is Sani's forte--equality. Of course, communism also involves equality to an extent... ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3097 (20080514) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3098 (20080514) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Dear Balaji, //I agree. Then, who rules democracy?// I'm not really sure if there is one planet specifically? What I can tell you is that Mercury signifies politics (generally). Certainly I can vouch that during this Mercury dasa, for example, I've had a keen interest in politics. Jupiter also is a significator of politics...associated with capitalism and catholicism (meaning all-embracing; of wide sympathies or interests)...not to be confused with Roman catholicism (as in the Catholic church). Perhaps other members might offer more on this topic :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:10 PM Re: China Quake Wendy ji, ///As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism./// I agree. Then, who rules democracy? Free speech is critical to democracy. So, can we say that Budha is more aligned with democracy? BTW, thanks for giving me China's Lagna. I will look at this chart soon, in context of the Olympics, the virus that is attacking children, and the quake. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Dear Wendy, What about Moon? As democracy is by the people and for the people, is it not appropriate consider Moon as representing democracy? It is just a thought that came to my mind. I don't have any clues otherwise. Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Balaji, //I agree. Then, who rules democracy?// I'm not really sure if there is one planet specifically? What I can tell you is that Mercury signifies politics (generally). Certainly I can vouch that during this Mercury dasa, for example, I've had a keen interest in politics. Jupiter also is a significator of politics...associated with capitalism and catholicism (meaning all-embracing; of wide sympathies or interests)...not to be confused with Roman catholicism (as in the Catholic church). Perhaps other members might offer more on this topic :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:10 PM Re: China Quake Wendy ji, ///As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism./// I agree. Then, who rules democracy? Free speech is critical to democracy. So, can we say that Budha is more aligned with democracy? BTW, thanks for giving me China's Lagna. I will look at this chart soon, in context of the Olympics, the virus that is attacking children, and the quake. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Dear Krishna, Thank you for your input :-) In regards to Saturn, I should also mention (before it slips my mind again) his association with trade unions / labor. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:49 PM Re: Re: China Quake Dear Wendy, What about Moon? As democracy is by the people and for the people, is it not appropriate consider Moon as representing democracy? It is just a thought that came to my mind. I don't have any clues otherwise. Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Balaji, //I agree. Then, who rules democracy?// I'm not really sure if there is one planet specifically? What I can tell you is that Mercury signifies politics (generally). Certainly I can vouch that during this Mercury dasa, for example, I've had a keen interest in politics. Jupiter also is a significator of politics...associated with capitalism and catholicism (meaning all-embracing; of wide sympathies or interests)...not to be confused with Roman catholicism (as in the Catholic church). Perhaps other members might offer more on this topic :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:10 PM Re: China Quake Wendy ji, ///As we know, Saturn, by nature, brings limitation and obstruction, hindrance in self-expression and self-manifestation - resulting in oppression and adversity - hence his association with communism./// I agree. Then, who rules democracy? Free speech is critical to democracy. So, can we say that Budha is more aligned with democracy? BTW, thanks for giving me China's Lagna. I will look at this chart soon, in context of the Olympics, the virus that is attacking children, and the quake. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, //In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy.// If possible could you please supply a reference for this. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 16, 2008 4:51 PM Re: China Quake Dear List, In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy. (the form of government; we know there are other forms of governments in vogue.) Saturn represents all forms of democratic istitutions so far as politics is concerned. Further Saturn represents labour class in general and allied issues pertaining to it namely strikes discontentment and revolution. Moon represents the commonman or the people in general. In a democractic setup, ultimately the commonman elects the representatives and they form a setup that is known as democracy. Mars represents the Dictatorship (form of government) ruled by commanders for example the Saddam and Iraq. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, Thanks for the notes. I have progressed one step in mundane astrology :-) Regards, Krishna ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear List, In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy. (the form of government; we know there are other forms of governments in vogue.) Saturn represents all forms of democratic istitutions so far as politics is concerned. Further Saturn represents labour class in general and allied issues pertaining to it namely strikes discontentment and revolution. Moon represents the commonman or the people in general. In a democractic setup, ultimately the commonman elects the representatives and they form a setup that is known as democracy. Mars represents the Dictatorship (form of government) ruled by commanders for example the Saddam and Iraq. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Krishna, > > Thank you for your input :-) > > In regards to Saturn, I should also mention (before it slips my mind again) > his association with trade unions / labor. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, As always it's good to have your input... If time permits, I'm sure it would benefit the group immensely if you could share your knowledge of mundane astrology...i.e. some scriptural reference. As I'm sure you know guidelines governing (modern) mundane astrology are noticeable by their absence; Certainly I would be grateful if you could point me to some reference. In the meantime, let me share a little of my own understanding: As with Natal astrology, the most important consideration is lagna lord...in mundane astrology, of course, this represents the country (or city) itself. In terms of government, Sun would be the prime indicator; and Moon, as you stated, would indicate the people at large (the general public). I'd like, if I can, to present a few charts for study in light of the above: 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN in 7th. 2) AUS: Virgo rises with lagna lord ME, JU and SA conjunct SUN in 4th. 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct SUN in 3rd. Now take a look at: 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign of Leo. 2) BURMA: Scorpio rises with lagna lord MA alone in 10th, in sign of Leo. PS: Recently the Australian Labor (labour) Party was elected to government after 11+ years in opposition to the Liberal Party (champions of free enterprise and capitalism)...can we see Jupiter here? The Labor Party, on the other hand, is affiliated with the trade unions, incorporating them into the structure of the party...can we see Saturn here? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 16, 2008 4:51 PM Re: China Quake Dear List, In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy. (the form of government; we know there are other forms of governments in vogue.) Saturn represents all forms of democratic istitutions so far as politics is concerned. Further Saturn represents labour class in general and allied issues pertaining to it namely strikes discontentment and revolution. Moon represents the commonman or the people in general. In a democractic setup, ultimately the commonman elects the representatives and they form a setup that is known as democracy. Mars represents the Dictatorship (form of government) ruled by commanders for example the Saddam and Iraq. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Krishna, > > Thank you for your input :-) > > In regards to Saturn, I should also mention (before it slips my mind again) > his association with trade unions / labor. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Wendy, Please forgive my remedial questions. I will learn quickly. But for now... Can you please define " Mundane " astrology? Your charts of countries are extremely interesting to me? Are they case with the date / time / location of the founding of the country as the " birth " ? Thanks! - Vic On May 16, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Wendy Vasicek wrote: > Dear Ravindramani, > > As always it's good to have your input... > If time permits, I'm sure it would benefit the group immensely if > you could > share your knowledge of mundane astrology...i.e. some scriptural > reference. > As I'm sure you know guidelines governing (modern) mundane astrology > are > noticeable by their absence; Certainly I would be grateful if you > could > point me to some reference. > > In the meantime, let me share a little of my own understanding: > As with Natal astrology, the most important consideration is lagna > lord...in > mundane astrology, of course, this represents the country (or city) > itself. > In terms of government, Sun would be the prime indicator; and Moon, > as you > stated, would indicate the people at large (the general public). > > I'd like, if I can, to present a few charts for study in light of > the above: > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN > in 7th. > 2) AUS: Virgo rises with lagna lord ME, JU and SA conjunct SUN in 4th. > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > SUN in > 3rd. > > Now take a look at: > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign > of Leo. > 2) BURMA: Scorpio rises with lagna lord MA alone in 10th, in sign of > Leo. > > PS: Recently the Australian Labor (labour) Party was elected to > government > after 11+ years in opposition to the Liberal Party (champions of free > enterprise and capitalism)...can we see Jupiter here? > > The Labor Party, on the other hand, is affiliated with the trade > unions, incorporating them into the structure of the party...can we > see > Saturn here? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " ravindramani " <ravindramani > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, May 16, 2008 4:51 PM > Re: China Quake > > Dear List, > > In mundane astrology, Saturn represents Democracy. (the form of > government; we know there are other forms of governments in vogue.) > Saturn represents all forms of democratic istitutions so far as > politics is concerned. > > Further Saturn represents labour class in general and allied issues > pertaining to it namely strikes discontentment and revolution. > > Moon represents the commonman or the people in general. In a > democractic setup, ultimately the commonman elects the > representatives and they form a setup that is known as democracy. > > Mars represents the Dictatorship (form of government) ruled by > commanders for example the Saddam and Iraq. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > Thank you for your input :-) > > > > In regards to Saturn, I should also mention (before it slips my > mind again) > > his association with trade unions / labor. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner: > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN > in 7th. > USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a very influential country in the world, huge ambitions. > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > SUN in > 3rd. India has an earthy-shudra/ female/ peace-love sign with powerful planets in the 3rd house (literature) which means it should be a country that produces great literature for the upliftment of humanity (vedas) > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign > of Leo. China has an earthy-shudra/ female/ harmful but ambitious sign with it's most important planet all alone in the house of death. This means it should be a country that has a lot of difficulties, which works hard without much pleasurable results for it's people. It might also mean that it meets an untimely demise. It is effectively the servant of other countries. It does not do well in negotiation or diplomacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Vic, //Can you please define " Mundane " astrology?// Mundane astrology is defined (basically) as the study of world affairs i.e., a chart is drawn for a country rather than for an individual. //Your charts of countries are extremely interesting to me? Are they case with the date / time / location of the founding of the country as the " birth " ?// Yes, this is correct. I give below the data for the countries I spoke of should you wish to study them further. USA: 4 Jul 1776 (17:55) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania AUS: 1 Jan 1901 (00:00) Melbourne, Victoria INDIA: 15 Aug 1947 (00:00) Delhi CHINA: 1 Oct 1949 (15:01) Beijing BURMA: 4 Jan 1948 (04:20) Rangoon PS: The USA chart is hotly disputed. KN Rao, for instance, has Leo rising. Others have Scorpio rising. I settled on Sagittarius after extensive research regarding the actual declaration of independence. There are many things in this chart that seem to confirm it for me...not the least of which is Saturn in sign of Grt.Fr in 10th house (indicating status in the world). There can be no doubt as to America's position (long held) as a 'SuperPower " on the world stage. As scripture tells us, Saturn in 10th is the planet most cited for leadership and power etc, etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:57 AM Re: Re: China Quake Wendy, Please forgive my remedial questions. I will learn quickly. But for now... Can you please define " Mundane " astrology? Your charts of countries are extremely interesting to me? Are they case with the date / time / location of the founding of the country as the " birth " ? Thanks! - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Vic, //Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner:// First let me congratulate you on your effort...very good by the way! Unfortunately there are very few here prepared to put themselves forward by offering their own thoughts on topics under discussion and thus contributing to the knowledge of the group. This puts a heavy load on the few contributors prepared to give back to the group. I'm grateful therefore for your contribution :-) //USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a very influential country in the world, huge ambitions.// Looking at the USA chart, the Kshatriya (warrior) influence is quite telling. America was in fact engaged in war with Great Britain at the time of the declaration of independence (1776)... The American Revolution (1775-1783). This was followed by; The Franco-American Naval Way (1798-1800) The Barbary Wars (1801-1805; 1815) The War of 1812 (1812-1815) The Creek (Indian) War (1813-1814) The War of Texas (1836) The Mexican War (1846-1848) The Civil War (1861-1865) The Spanish-American War (1898) World War 1 (1914-1918) World War 2 (1939-1945) The Korean War (1950-1953) The Vietnam War (1960-1975) The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) Grenada (1983) Invasion of Panama (1989) The Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) Intervention Bosnia/Herzegovina (1995-1996) Invasion of Iraq (2003) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Vic D " <vicdicara <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:32 AM Re: Re: China Quake Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner: > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct SUN > in 7th. > USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a very influential country in the world, huge ambitions. > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > SUN in > 3rd. India has an earthy-shudra/ female/ peace-love sign with powerful planets in the 3rd house (literature) which means it should be a country that produces great literature for the upliftment of humanity (vedas) > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in sign > of Leo. China has an earthy-shudra/ female/ harmful but ambitious sign with it's most important planet all alone in the house of death. This means it should be a country that has a lot of difficulties, which works hard without much pleasurable results for it's people. It might also mean that it meets an untimely demise. It is effectively the servant of other countries. It does not do well in negotiation or diplomacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 PS: Apologies for typo... //The Franco-American Naval Way// That, of course, should read " The Franco-American Naval War " ___ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:15 PM Re: Re: China Quake Dear Vic, //Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a beginner:// First let me congratulate you on your effort...very good by the way! Unfortunately there are very few here prepared to put themselves forward by offering their own thoughts on topics under discussion and thus contributing to the knowledge of the group. This puts a heavy load on the few contributors prepared to give back to the group. I'm grateful therefore for your contribution :-) //USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a very influential country in the world, huge ambitions.// Looking at the USA chart, the Kshatriya (warrior) influence is quite telling. America was in fact engaged in war with Great Britain at the time of the declaration of independence (1776)... The American Revolution (1775-1783). This was followed by; The Franco-American Naval Way (1798-1800) The Barbary Wars (1801-1805; 1815) The War of 1812 (1812-1815) The Creek (Indian) War (1813-1814) The War of Texas (1836) The Mexican War (1846-1848) The Civil War (1861-1865) The Spanish-American War (1898) World War 1 (1914-1918) World War 2 (1939-1945) The Korean War (1950-1953) The Vietnam War (1960-1975) The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) Grenada (1983) Invasion of Panama (1989) The Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) Intervention Bosnia/Herzegovina (1995-1996) Invasion of Iraq (2003) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Bhaskarji, your friends are now active in Vedic astrology group and they are targetting one Mr Prashant Kumar. If you know it, Lalit is a converted Christian and he is targetting the Vedic astrology groups one by one. regards, Kishore patnaik On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I have been noticing the pressure > on you, by these constant queries, but > unfortunately could not contribute, because > i have not even any basic knowledge > on mundane astrology. I also appreciate > that you are handling these so well > through your replies, and was in fact > wondering how you could do this much of > spending time and efforts. This is really > laudable. > > There is one person here in our group, who > does predict earthquakes , landslides, terrorist > activities, and such infernelia on and off > on the forums, but he does not mention > any specific countries or dates, he just > gives the names of continents and broad dated > long span periods which can be connected to > any event hapenning anywhere > in the world. Yet I hope he comes up with some > technical information if he has any, > and guide us on how to predict natural disasters > and pointers in mundane astrology. I will not take > his name for obvious reasons. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > Dear Vic, > > > > //Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a > beginner:// > > > > First let me congratulate you on your effort...very good by the > way! > > Unfortunately there are very few here prepared to put themselves > forward by > > offering their own thoughts on topics under discussion and thus > contributing > > to the knowledge of the group. This puts a heavy load on the few > > contributors prepared to give back to the group. I'm grateful > therefore for > > your contribution :-) > > > > //USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets > in > > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions.// > > > > Looking at the USA chart, the Kshatriya (warrior) influence is > quite > > telling. America was in fact engaged in war with Great Britain at > the time > > of the declaration of independence (1776)... The American > Revolution > > (1775-1783). > > > > This was followed by; > > The Franco-American Naval Way (1798-1800) > > The Barbary Wars (1801-1805; 1815) > > The War of 1812 (1812-1815) > > The Creek (Indian) War (1813-1814) > > The War of Texas (1836) > > The Mexican War (1846-1848) > > The Civil War (1861-1865) > > The Spanish-American War (1898) > > World War 1 (1914-1918) > > World War 2 (1939-1945) > > The Korean War (1950-1953) > > The Vietnam War (1960-1975) > > The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) > > Grenada (1983) > > Invasion of Panama (1989) > > The Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) > > Intervention Bosnia/Herzegovina (1995-1996) > > Invasion of Iraq (2003) > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > > > > > > - > > " Vic D " <vicdicara > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:32 AM > > Re: Re: China Quake > > > > > > Please give me input on this cursory interpretation from a > beginner: > > > > > 1) USA: Sagittarius rises with lagna lord JU, MA and VE conjunct > SUN > > > in 7th. > > > > > USA has a kshatriya/ masculine/ pious sign with powerful planets in > > the 7th house (public and partnerships), which means it should be a > > very influential country in the world, huge ambitions. > > > > > > > 3) INDIA: Taurus rises with lagna lord VE, MO, ME and SA conjunct > > > SUN in > > > 3rd. > > > > India has an earthy-shudra/ female/ peace-love sign with powerful > > planets in the 3rd house (literature) which means it should be a > > country that produces great literature for the upliftment of > humanity > > (vedas) > > > > > > > 1) CHINA: Capricorn rises with lagna lord SA alone in 8th, in > sign > > > of Leo. > > > > China has an earthy-shudra/ female/ harmful but ambitious sign with > > it's most important planet all alone in the house of death. This > means > > it should be a country that has a lot of difficulties, which works > > hard without much pleasurable results for it's people. It might > also > > mean that it meets an untimely demise. It is effectively the > servant > > of other countries. It does not do well in negotiation or > diplomacy. > > > > > -- Love is a fruit in season at all times, and within the reach of every hand. ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Kishore patnaik, Bhaskar and all concerned, Please DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT bring this here!! Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:42 PM Re: Re: China Quake Bhaskarji, your friends are now active in Vedic astrology group and they are targetting one Mr Prashant Kumar. If you know it, Lalit is a converted Christian and he is targetting the Vedic astrology groups one by one. regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, You have misunderstood me when I said 'friends' I thought you will understand. I meant the Lalit and co by your friends, who have targetted you and harrassed you heavily on Jyotish group. I have given a message to say that Lalit is a christian and they are asking , so what? My reply is " If you have no religious faith in Vedas, you have no right to eat the fruits of the Vedic sciences. You are only stealing if you are doing so. Only Hindus have any right to them. For eg., Bobby Jindal had to convert to Christianity to run for the post of Goveror ship of Louisiana. Does it mean that he suddenly got a moral authority to rule once he became Christian? In a Democracy, can religion play its part to decide the qualification to get elected? However, it is largely difficult to control these pagans and non believers from stealing these divine sciences. It happened long ago during the Matsyavatara time, when Hayagriva has stolen the Divine books of Vedas and now it is happening again, that the Christians are stealing these sciences. If they are not Hindus, they have no right to eat the fruits of Hindu sciences. First they MUST convert to Hinduism to learn Hindu sciences Otherwise, it only means these pagans are thieves and are stealing what is not their heritage. " Hope I am clear., Kishore patnaik On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Kishore patnaik, Bhaskar and all concerned, > > Please DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT bring this here!! > > Thank You, > > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > - > " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09<kishorepatnaik09%40gmail.com> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:42 PM > Re: Re: China Quake > > Bhaskarji, > > your friends are now active in Vedic astrology group and they are > targetting > one Mr Prashant Kumar. If you know it, Lalit is a converted Christian and > he > is targetting the Vedic astrology groups one by one. > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > -- Love is a fruit in season at all times, and within the reach of every hand. ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, We do not know you , by contact no.place or city of > residence and occupations, so we never know whom to believe or > whom not to. > What do you mean by that? I have called you over phone and introduced my self abut two years ago. I think you have forgotten. In any case, I am a personal friend of Sree ram Srinivas. regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Mr. Kishore patnaik, You, and all others concerned, are now on moderation...meaning only posts with meaningful astrological content will be posted...all else will be deleted! //However, it is largely difficult to control these pagans and non believers from stealing these divine sciences. It happened long ago during the Matsyavatara time, when Hayagriva has stolen the Divine books of Vedas and now it is happening again, that the Christians are stealing these sciences.// As we know, great souls such as Ramana Maharshi, Paramahansa Yogananda, Sri Yukteswar (an exponent of the Bhagavad Gita and the Bible), as well as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his Guru Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Maharaj; Swami Vivekananda, Sri Ramakrishna, Babaji Nagaraj, and Swami Sivananda, to name but a few, had the greatest respect/love for the life and teachings of Christ. These, of course, were realized souls devoid of the sectarian hatred emanating from ignorant men. It might interest you to know that I am a born Christian with a deep and abiding love for Christ. I also have a deep and abiding love for the Vedas...I, like our sages of old, find no conflict with this. I pray to divine mother through the Christian rosary, and fall asleep at night listening (softly) to my much-loved CD " Om Namah Shivaya " (Bhopali Raga) chanting with Swami Chidvilasananda...both the rosary and vedic mantras resonate with my inner-being and are tremendously comforting! I have devoted the last 20 years of my life to jyotish which, in no way, conflicts with my Christian beliefs...in fact it strengthens them! This is what true knowledge, as opposed to blind fundamentalism, does! I recommend you read the following pages carefully: http://jyotishvidya.com/parampara.htm http://jyotishvidya.com/biblical.htm Please, let's have no more of this religious sectarianism here, and get on with sharing this divine knowledge of jyotish that is the same for one and all regardless of religious persuasion. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:17 PM Re: Re: China Quake Dear Bhaskar, You have misunderstood me when I said 'friends' I thought you will understand. I meant the Lalit and co by your friends, who have targetted you and harrassed you heavily on Jyotish group. I have given a message to say that Lalit is a christian and they are asking , so what? My reply is " If you have no religious faith in Vedas, you have no right to eat the fruits of the Vedic sciences. You are only stealing if you are doing so. Only Hindus have any right to them. For eg., Bobby Jindal had to convert to Christianity to run for the post of Goveror ship of Louisiana. Does it mean that he suddenly got a moral authority to rule once he became Christian? In a Democracy, can religion play its part to decide the qualification to get elected? However, it is largely difficult to control these pagans and non believers from stealing these divine sciences. It happened long ago during the Matsyavatara time, when Hayagriva has stolen the Divine books of Vedas and now it is happening again, that the Christians are stealing these sciences. If they are not Hindus, they have no right to eat the fruits of Hindu sciences. First they MUST convert to Hinduism to learn Hindu sciences Otherwise, it only means these pagans are thieves and are stealing what is not their heritage. " Hope I am clear., Kishore patnaik On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Kishore patnaik, Bhaskar and all concerned, > > Please DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT bring this here!! > > Thank You, > > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, Many thanks, I shall look forward to it :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - ravindramani jyotish-vidya Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:36 PM Re: China Quake Dear Mrs. Wendy, I am away from my city. I may be able to contribute some thing on the issues you raised when I come back to my home since I dont have easy access here to the Internet as is available to me at my city. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Recent Activity a.. 7New Members b.. 1New Files Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Y! Messenger Quick file sharing Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Find balance between nutrition, activity & well-being. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 >> //Can you please define " Mundane " astrology?// > > Mundane astrology is defined (basically) as the study of world > affairs i.e., > a chart is drawn for a country rather than for an individual. > Ah! Thanks!!! So " Mundane " in the sense of no jeevatma? Do you know who came up with this term? I find it quite odd. Mundane has a strong connotation of " inferior " . Thus it's reference in english speaking Indian philosophy quite often points to prakrti or matter, which is " inferior " in comparison to soul / purusha. Rather than " Natal " / " Mundane " I would coin terminology something more along the lines of " Personal " / " Inanimate " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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