Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear manpreet singh Gochara is important. Varshphala - tajak or progression is important, but none of these can override the indications of the natal chart and what it shows as results for the native, at the current time of query. If th varshaphala shows problem, but the natal chart does not show this,then one has to believe the Ntal chart and not the varsha phala eventually. The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara. Gochara may show some problem, but the natal will show whether that problem will manifest or be wiped out, only by the results of natal chart. I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in few months time, so if I just see the gochara, then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical. regards, Bhaskar. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , manpreet singh <lacha99_99 wrote: > > respected all, > regards > our board members r very generous and have replied to many of my queries? > md/dashas r very important but gochara is most important as told by many astrologers.in leo rashi after16th july will see arrival of saturn in leo rashi.ketu is already placed there......many ppl have told me saturn in leo doesnt do much damage 2 leo natives........ > plz guide me how will be next year for leo natives???? > > > > > > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, ///The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara./// It's really not a matter of transits overriding the natal chart at all. The simple fact is that the timing of when and how the events, promised in Rasi, will express themselves is dependent upon the dasa periods (along with the transits) which undoubtedly influence the dasa periods for better or worse. ///I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in few months time, so if I just see the gochara, then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical./// We're all aware of the effect of Saturn's difficult transits i.e., Sade Sati, Ashtama Sani etc.. The effect of these transits are recognisable, are they not? And so too are the effects due to the transit of other Grahas...just because they don't receive the same attention as Saturn, does not diminish their influence. You have been subject to Saturn's transit in 8th from Moon (Ashtama Sani) for some time now and, no doubt, you've experienced the effects. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:54 AM Re: shld we look into monthly horoscopes?? Dear manpreet singh Gochara is important. Varshphala - tajak or progression is important, but none of these can override the indications of the natal chart and what it shows as results for the native, at the current time of query. If th varshaphala shows problem, but the natal chart does not show this,then one has to believe the Ntal chart and not the varsha phala eventually. The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara. Gochara may show some problem, but the natal will show whether that problem will manifest or be wiped out, only by the results of natal chart. I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in few months time, so if I just see the gochara, then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Mrs.Wendy, Agreed. Of course the timings of events shown in Raashi Chart, can be ascertained to a better degree, from these transits. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > ///The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is > in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation > of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case > and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara./// > > It's really not a matter of transits overriding the natal chart at all. The > simple fact is that the timing of when and how the events, promised in Rasi, > will express themselves is dependent upon the dasa periods (along with the > transits) which undoubtedly influence the dasa periods for better or worse. > > ///I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at > 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in > few months time, so if I just see the gochara, > then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the > time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical./// > > We're all aware of the effect of Saturn's difficult transits i.e., Sade > Sati, Ashtama Sani etc.. The effect of these transits are recognisable, are > they not? And so too are the effects due to the transit of other > Grahas...just because they don't receive the same attention as Saturn, does > not diminish their influence. You have been subject to Saturn's transit in > 8th from Moon (Ashtama Sani) for some time now and, no doubt, you've > experienced the effects. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:54 AM > Re: shld we look into monthly horoscopes?? > > > Dear manpreet singh > > Gochara is important. Varshphala - tajak or progression > is important, but none of these can override > the indications of the natal chart and what it shows as > results for the native, at the current time of query. > > If th varshaphala shows problem, but the natal chart > does not show this,then one has to believe the Ntal chart > and not the varsha phala eventually. > > The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is > in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation > of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case > and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara. > > Gochara may show some problem, but the natal will show whether > that problem will manifest or be wiped out, only by the results of > natal chart. > > I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at > 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in > few months time, so if I just see the gochara, > then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the > time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Dr. Watson, It is simple to see this transit through Astakavarga. It is a very useful technique. From the Moon Saturn was transiting in the 8th. From the Moon, Saturn's transit is beneficial only from 3rd, 6th and 11th houses. Hence it is not a beneficial transit for Bhaskar. From the point of view of SAV, Saturn was transiting in Gemini which carries 32 points. Now Cancer carries the very meager total of 17 points. That is the poorest house in the whole chart so far as SAV is concerned. Further at a subtle level, Saturn in its own BAV has not contributed even a single point/bindhu in Cancer. No doubt that makes the situation more difficult in regard to finances. From the Moon, Saturn rules the 2nd house of finances. Note the transit happens in the 12th house from Lagna. That is the 2nd house of finances from the 2nd lord Mercury which is in the 11th house of gains from Lagna. Swamy. PS: My messenger is not working properly. Should I reinstall it once again or what? Dear Bhaskar, ///I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in few months time, so if I just see the gochara, then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical./// We're all aware of the effect of Saturn's difficult transits i.e., Sade Sati, Ashtama Sani etc.. The effect of these transits are recognisable, are they not? And so too are the effects due to the transit of other Grahas...just because they don't receive the same attention as Saturn, does not diminish their influence. You have been subject to Saturn's transit in 8th from Moon (Ashtama Sani) for some time now and, no doubt, you've experienced the effects. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy > - > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:54 AM > Re: shld we look into monthly horoscopes?? > > > Dear manpreet singh > > Gochara is important. Varshphala - tajak or progression > is important, but none of these can override > the indications of the natal chart and what it shows as > results for the native, at the current time of query. > > If th varshaphala shows problem, but the natal chart > does not show this,then one has to believe the Ntal chart > and not the varsha phala eventually. > > The gochara can only be taken as a indication, as it is > in motion constantly, but the natal chart shows the manifestation > of good and bad events and results, which cannot be in any case > and by no possibility be overrided by the Gochara. > > Gochara may show some problem, but the natal will show whether > that problem will manifest or be wiped out, only by the results of > natal chart. > > I am personally a Leo ascendant, and have Rahu and Mars at > 7 degrees in Leo, which Saturn will be crossing in > few months time, so if I just see the gochara, > then I will die out of fear, and may not even live till the > time Saturn comes there in transit. we have to be practical. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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