Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Respecte Mam, Every word is true. A discussion/Learning forum ends up being a place to get free readings. Though there are exclusive groups with very talented astrologers providing free readings as a service extension, more often than not the purpose of a Jyotish Group gets lost. Thereby forcing the creator to remind everyone of the groups decorum. The anxiety of the querying person is understandable. Hoping to preserve anonymity and yes the FREE part which probably makes it interesting!( I might be wrong here! ). Further since there is a guild of talented astrologers, the querying person feels he would reep the best. It is true and right to have a personal reading since you are in direct conversation with the astrologer and the dialogue that pursues ends in a convincing manner leaving no doubts in the querying person's mind. There HAS to be that personal experience. May the group can in simple words indicate a redirection or make aware the person that this is just a learning group in reply. Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Members, > > Although the policy of JV is clearly stated on the > group's homepage, I feel > it's necessary to elaborate on this by sharing with > you the main reasons why > I don't encourage requests for personal readings on > the group, unless it's > quite clear the querent is a student seeking > clarification of a specific > feature of their (or another) horoscope. There are > many reasons for this but > the most important ones are: > > 1) A horoscope consultation, similar to consulting a > doctor, lawyer or > priest, is a personal and private matter between the > person and his > advisor. Personal face-to-face interaction is > extremely important, on many > levels. Would any other professionals offer free > service on a discussion > group? Of course not! It would be demeaning to their > profession and, in > fact, their governing body would not allow > it...astrology should be no less > respected! > > 2) As things are today, respect for astrology (as > well as astrologers) is > greatly diminished by this trend that encourages > jyotish students, of any > level, to 'do a service' by offering free readings > on these discussion > groups. Sadly most groups encourage this, for two > reasons. a) it swells the > membership as many join in the hope of getting a > 'free reading', and b) > budding astrologers perpetuate this by their desire > to 'make a name' for > themselves and promote their off-list > services...again, no other > professional group would be permitted to do this! > > 3) It's no service at all if a budding jyotisha, > without adequate > experience, misinterprets the horoscope...advice, > right or wrong, has a > powerful influence on the querent and there is > always the danger of > self-fulfilling prophesy...believe me, this is a > reality! How many times > have we inexplicably remembered the words someone > once said to us? Without > doubt, what we say to people will remain with them > for the rest of their > lives, and, if our words have been harmful in any > way (intentionally or > unintentionally) we will certainly suffer the > consequences...this is the > indisputable law of karma! > > In my opinion, these discussion groups are a > wonderful medium for students > of astrology to research charts and increase their > knowledge through healthy > discussion/debate...they should not be a shop for > free readings or a > platform for those wishing to build their > reputations (often at the expense > of others). I have witnessed some appalling > behaviour on several groups (of > late) as members resort to all kinds of abuse in > their effort to become 'top > dog'. No other profession engages in such uncouth > behaviour...we should > seriously ask the question; Why? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > ______________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Wendy, I fully second your policy. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Members, > > Although the policy of JV is clearly stated on the group's > homepage, I feel > it's necessary to elaborate on this by sharing with you the > main reasons why > I don't encourage requests for personal readings on the group, > unless it's > quite clear the querent is a student seeking clarification of > a specific > feature of their (or another) horoscope. There are many > reasons for this but > the most important ones are: > > 1) A horoscope consultation, similar to consulting a doctor, > lawyer or > priest, is a personal and private matter between the person > and his > advisor. Personal face-to-face interaction is extremely > important, on many > levels. Would any other professionals offer free service on a > discussion > group? Of course not! It would be demeaning to their > profession and, in > fact, their governing body would not allow it...astrology > should be no less > respected! > > 2) As things are today, respect for astrology (as well as > astrologers) is > greatly diminished by this trend that encourages jyotish > students, of any > level, to 'do a service' by offering free readings on these > discussion > groups. Sadly most groups encourage this, for two reasons. a) > it swells the > membership as many join in the hope of getting a 'free > reading', and b) > budding astrologers perpetuate this by their desire to 'make a > name' for > themselves and promote their off-list services...again, no > other > professional group would be permitted to do this! > > 3) It's no service at all if a budding jyotisha, without > adequate > experience, misinterprets the horoscope...advice, right or > wrong, has a > powerful influence on the querent and there is always the > danger of > self-fulfilling prophesy...believe me, this is a reality! How > many times > have we inexplicably remembered the words someone once said to > us? Without > doubt, what we say to people will remain with them for the > rest of their > lives, and, if our words have been harmful in any way > (intentionally or > unintentionally) we will certainly suffer the > consequences...this is the > indisputable law of karma! > > In my opinion, these discussion groups are a wonderful medium > for students > of astrology to research charts and increase their knowledge > through healthy > discussion/debate...they should not be a shop for free > readings or a > platform for those wishing to build their reputations (often > at the expense > of others). I have witnessed some appalling behaviour on > several groups (of > late) as members resort to all kinds of abuse in their effort > to become 'top > dog'. No other profession engages in such uncouth > behaviour...we should > seriously ask the question; Why? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/norton/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Sripathi, //Though there are exclusive groups with very talented astrologers providing free readings as a service extension// It has been my experience that these are very few and far between. The talent may be there certainly but professional astrologers with both the knowledge and experience do not (normally) frequent discussion groups...the exception (obviously) would be those who run their own services through their websites. I don't mean to be overly harsh about this but it's time, in my opinion, that some dignity was restored to this most divine science. //It is true and right to have a personal reading since you are in direct conversation with the astrologer and the dialogue that pursues ends in a convincing manner leaving no doubts in the querying person's mind. There HAS to be that personal experience.// The most important element, present in face-to-face consultation and absent in impersonal internet readings, is the physical exchange of energy between the astrologer and the querent that sharpens the astrologer's intuition. It's said that knowledge devoid of intuition (discernment) lacks as much as intuition without a strong foundation of knowledge to support it. Both knowledge and intuition are important. PS: Those who have (even) the slightest understanding of quantum mechanics will know what I mean by the (physical) exchange of energy...and the profound effect it has on both the querent and the astrologer. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:29 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Respecte Mam, Every word is true. A discussion/Learning forum ends up being a place to get free readings. Though there are exclusive groups with very talented astrologers providing free readings as a service extension, more often than not the purpose of a Jyotish Group gets lost. Thereby forcing the creator to remind everyone of the groups decorum. The anxiety of the querying person is understandable. Hoping to preserve anonymity and yes the FREE part which probably makes it interesting!( I might be wrong here! ). Further since there is a guild of talented astrologers, the querying person feels he would reep the best. It is true and right to have a personal reading since you are in direct conversation with the astrologer and the dialogue that pursues ends in a convincing manner leaving no doubts in the querying person's mind. There HAS to be that personal experience. May the group can in simple words indicate a redirection or make aware the person that this is just a learning group in reply. Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 //PS: Those who have (even) the slightest understanding of quantum mechanics will know what I mean by the (physical) exchange of energy...and the profound effect it has on both the querent and the astrologer.// I know this from my own experience having been a practicing astrologer for some years (seeing people personally) up until '97/'98 when ill health forced me into retirement. ______ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:41 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear Sripathi, //Though there are exclusive groups with very talented astrologers providing free readings as a service extension// It has been my experience that these are very few and far between. The talent may be there certainly but professional astrologers with both the knowledge and experience do not (normally) frequent discussion groups...the exception (obviously) would be those who run their own services through their websites. I don't mean to be overly harsh about this but it's time, in my opinion, that some dignity was restored to this most divine science. //It is true and right to have a personal reading since you are in direct conversation with the astrologer and the dialogue that pursues ends in a convincing manner leaving no doubts in the querying person's mind. There HAS to be that personal experience.// The most important element, present in face-to-face consultation and absent in impersonal internet readings, is the physical exchange of energy between the astrologer and the querent that sharpens the astrologer's intuition. It's said that knowledge devoid of intuition (discernment) lacks as much as intuition without a strong foundation of knowledge to support it. Both knowledge and intuition are important. PS: Those who have (even) the slightest understanding of quantum mechanics will know what I mean by the (physical) exchange of energy...and the profound effect it has on both the querent and the astrologer. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, The first and foremost reason is that no astrologer is challenged and penalized in the court of law for their failed predictions. No body goes to the court for challenging an astrologer for his failed predictions. No action is going to be taken against him. Why astrology i.e. the profession of astrology is booming? The innocent people, who are gullible, can be cheated very easily. They are suffering from certain bad karmas and they want to get out of it instantaneously as just popping a pill in their mouth and get rid of a viral fever. They don't know the simple principle of astrology. One should have patience and things will improve automatically when the adverse dasha changes. They do not know this simple fact that no astrologer can change anybody's destiny. Even the greatest of the astrologers have their own limits in giving predictions in a chart and do not have a magic wand to ward of all evil effects in a chart. With the advent of Internet, anybody can pick up rudiments of astrology, which are freely available in Internet, which are absolutely nonsense (the contents) as would be seen in some web pages. A book on basic astrology sells at Rs.100/- (approximately 2 US dollars) in India. You can read, understand imperfectly and start give predictions. This is the order of the day. Above all, everyone wants to know how materially he or she can prosper in his or her lives. That is the only question you can face in these so-called groups. (They are ready to pay. They have enough money. It costs nothing for the average Indians today. Thanks to the boom of IT industry in India.) (I have not seen a single query regarding the spiritual merit of a chart in any of these forums at least in the last 10 years from any person. (Of course, a person named Turner asked about this in this List, if I am remembering his name correctly three or four years ago in the old jyotish vidya.) People generally think they can pay some amount to a person who can do some puja or upaya or wearing some gems and liquidate their Karmas so easily. (No offence intended here. I know pretty well you to this course of upaya i.e. gems. My intention is not to offend you. I am making a general statement how inexperienced astrologers prescribe gems to their consulters without even understanding which planet is to be strengthened or propitiated and when? ) Everybody should liquidate his or her own karmas for which one is taking birth here endlessly. One of my colleagues was about to be cheated by an unscrupulous astrologer very recently. The astrologer told he would mitigate all problems in the chart by doing a Puja to Saturn. Can he do it? What could be the present problem in the mind of colleague? I don't want any prediction on this chart. Repeat. I don't want any prediction on this chart. I just ask the students of astrology here to find at least what is happening in the life of the individual taking into consideration of the dasha and transits. An astrologer should be able to tell without telling him or her the present trend visible in a chart just taking into consideration the dashas and transits in operation. No matter he may go wrong. I know a planet has hundreds of significations and a house has more than that. We are not infallible. The Internet astrologers don't know even which houses are getting activated in a chart….. Nothing…. Of late these groups serve no real purpose for which they have been intended and created. Female September 23, 1978 0455 hours 77E12, 28N36 0530 hours zone No daylight saving time Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Respected Mam, Quite true. And I can endorse this fact more so because my family/community is closely associated with this subject since I hail from a family of priests. May be at this point it would be interesting to note the characteristics in an horoscope which shows an astrologer.. Should we see Jupiter(For knowledge, benevolence), 2nd house of Speech and 5th house of intuition? Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > //PS: Those who have (even) the slightest > understanding of quantum mechanics > will know what I mean by the (physical) exchange of > energy...and the > profound effect it has on both the querent and the > astrologer.// > > I know this from my own experience having been a > practicing astrologer for > some years (seeing people personally) up until > '97/'98 when ill health > forced me into retirement. > ______ > > > - > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:41 PM > Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya > (JV) > > > Dear Sripathi, > > //Though there are exclusive groups with very > talented astrologers providing > free readings as a service extension// > > It has been my experience that these are very few > and far between. The > talent may be there certainly but professional > astrologers with both the > knowledge and experience do not (normally) frequent > discussion groups...the > exception (obviously) would be those who run their > own services through > their websites. I don't mean to be overly harsh > about this but it's time, in > my opinion, that some dignity was restored to this > most divine science. > > //It is true and right to have a personal reading > since > you are in direct conversation with the astrologer > and > the dialogue that pursues ends in a convincing > manner > leaving no doubts in the querying person's mind. > There > HAS to be that personal experience.// > > The most important element, present in face-to-face > consultation and absent > in impersonal internet readings, is the physical > exchange of energy between > the astrologer and the querent that sharpens the > astrologer's intuition. > It's said that knowledge devoid of intuition > (discernment) lacks as much as > intuition without a strong foundation of knowledge > to support it. Both > knowledge and intuition are important. > > PS: Those who have (even) the slightest > understanding of quantum mechanics > will know what I mean by the (physical) exchange of > energy...and the > profound effect it has on both the querent and the > astrologer. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > ______________________________\ ____ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Swamy, Just very quickly...can you confirm the chart you offered has Capricorn lagna 19:52:06 Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:06 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear Mrs. Wendy, The first and foremost reason is that no astrologer is challenged and penalized in the court of law for their failed predictions. No body goes to the court for challenging an astrologer for his failed predictions. No action is going to be taken against him. Why astrology i.e. the profession of astrology is booming? The innocent people, who are gullible, can be cheated very easily. They are suffering from certain bad karmas and they want to get out of it instantaneously as just popping a pill in their mouth and get rid of a viral fever. They don't know the simple principle of astrology. One should have patience and things will improve automatically when the adverse dasha changes. They do not know this simple fact that no astrologer can change anybody's destiny. Even the greatest of the astrologers have their own limits in giving predictions in a chart and do not have a magic wand to ward of all evil effects in a chart. With the advent of Internet, anybody can pick up rudiments of astrology, which are freely available in Internet, which are absolutely nonsense (the contents) as would be seen in some web pages. A book on basic astrology sells at Rs.100/- (approximately 2 US dollars) in India. You can read, understand imperfectly and start give predictions. This is the order of the day. Above all, everyone wants to know how materially he or she can prosper in his or her lives. That is the only question you can face in these so-called groups. (They are ready to pay. They have enough money. It costs nothing for the average Indians today. Thanks to the boom of IT industry in India.) (I have not seen a single query regarding the spiritual merit of a chart in any of these forums at least in the last 10 years from any person. (Of course, a person named Turner asked about this in this List, if I am remembering his name correctly three or four years ago in the old jyotish vidya.) People generally think they can pay some amount to a person who can do some puja or upaya or wearing some gems and liquidate their Karmas so easily. (No offence intended here. I know pretty well you to this course of upaya i.e. gems. My intention is not to offend you. I am making a general statement how inexperienced astrologers prescribe gems to their consulters without even understanding which planet is to be strengthened or propitiated and when? ) Everybody should liquidate his or her own karmas for which one is taking birth here endlessly. One of my colleagues was about to be cheated by an unscrupulous astrologer very recently. The astrologer told he would mitigate all problems in the chart by doing a Puja to Saturn. Can he do it? What could be the present problem in the mind of colleague? I don't want any prediction on this chart. Repeat. I don't want any prediction on this chart. I just ask the students of astrology here to find at least what is happening in the life of the individual taking into consideration of the dasha and transits. An astrologer should be able to tell without telling him or her the present trend visible in a chart just taking into consideration the dashas and transits in operation. No matter he may go wrong. I know a planet has hundreds of significations and a house has more than that. We are not infallible. The Internet astrologers don't know even which houses are getting activated in a chart... Nothing.. Of late these groups serve no real purpose for which they have been intended and created. Female September 23, 1978 0455 hours 77E12, 28N36 0530 hours zone No daylight saving time Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Sripathi, //May be at this point it would be interesting to note the characteristics in an horoscope which shows an astrologer.. Should we see Jupiter(For knowledge, benevolence), 2nd house of Speech and 5th house of intuition?// From the classical texts we know what the qualities of an astrologer should be, ideally... However, the type of people attracted to astrology are as many and varied as those attracted to any other field. Always we will find good and bad doctors, good and bad lawyers and, most certainly, good and bad astrologers. But the interest (desire) must be there initially to lead the native towards this study. So, two houses that should be considered would be 3rd (intentions) and 11th (hopes and wishes), along with 9th which signifies higher learning, Vedas...jyotish being a limb of the Vedas (Vedanga). Mercury should be strong enough to afford sufficient intelligence; Jupiter, of course, to bestow the highest knowledge, and the nodes similarly can lead one towards jyotish (the hidden knowledge)... Ketu, associated with occult perception, intuition etc has a big part to play as does Rahu, who, depending upon association, can bestow an insatiable appetite for inner or spiritual knowledge. Two of the greatest (modern day) astrologers (BV Raman and KN Rao) have achieved phenomenal success with the help of Rahu. For Raman, 2nd/11th lord Jupiter (in 10th) disposits Rahu...Rahu's nakshatra lord Mercury, conjunct 9th lord Venus and YogaKaraka Mars, aspects lagna. For Rao, Jupiter (exalted in 10th) again disposits Rahu. Both these astrology giants attained great fame and recognition. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:51 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Respected Mam, Quite true. And I can endorse this fact more so because my family/community is closely associated with this subject since I hail from a family of priests. May be at this point it would be interesting to note the characteristics in an horoscope which shows an astrologer.. Should we see Jupiter(For knowledge, benevolence), 2nd house of Speech and 5th house of intuition? Best Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Respected Mam, Thanks for your inputs. Was not aware of the participation of the 11th house. Also I was of the opinion that the 3rd shows initiative and that it should be strong for one to make things move. Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Sripathi, > > //May be at this point it would be interesting to > note > the characteristics in an horoscope which shows an > astrologer.. > Should we see Jupiter(For knowledge, benevolence), > 2nd > house of Speech and 5th house of intuition?// > > From the classical texts we know what the qualities > of an astrologer should > be, ideally... However, the type of people attracted > to astrology are as > many and varied as those attracted to any other > field. Always we will find > good and bad doctors, good and bad lawyers and, most > certainly, good and bad > astrologers. > > But the interest (desire) must be there initially to > lead the native towards > this study. So, two houses that should be considered > would be 3rd > (intentions) and 11th (hopes and wishes), along with > 9th which signifies > higher learning, Vedas...jyotish being a limb of the > Vedas (Vedanga). > > Mercury should be strong enough to afford sufficient > intelligence; Jupiter, > of course, to bestow the highest knowledge, and the > nodes similarly can lead > one towards jyotish (the hidden knowledge)... Ketu, > associated with occult > perception, intuition etc has a big part to play as > does Rahu, who, > depending upon association, can bestow an insatiable > appetite for inner or > spiritual knowledge. Two of the greatest (modern > day) astrologers (BV Raman > and KN Rao) have achieved phenomenal success with > the help of Rahu. > > For Raman, 2nd/11th lord Jupiter (in 10th) disposits > Rahu...Rahu's nakshatra > lord Mercury, conjunct 9th lord Venus and YogaKaraka > Mars, aspects lagna. > For Rao, Jupiter (exalted in 10th) again disposits > Rahu. Both these > astrology giants attained great fame and > recognition. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:51 PM > Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya > (JV) > > > Respected Mam, > > Quite true. And I can endorse this fact more so > because my family/community is closely associated > with > this subject since I hail from a family of priests. > > May be at this point it would be interesting to note > the characteristics in an horoscope which shows an > astrologer.. > > Should we see Jupiter(For knowledge, benevolence), > 2nd > house of Speech and 5th house of intuition? > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > > ______________________________\ ____Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear List, Jupiter's aspect on 2nd gives " Vaak Siddhi " and its association with 10th house gives idealism. With this a person could be placed in the category of a good astrologer. Further the placement of Ketu in the 5th helps one in getting " intuition " which helps the astrologer at times not only to come to a right conclusion among the hundreds of human experience that a house or a planet represent in a chart but also to find out the true intentions of the person in front of him. If this combination (Ketu in 5th has any thing to do with the Jupiter, by way of aspect, it is all the more good for the pursuits of astrology.) All the more important was B.V. Raman got the fantastic dasha scheme, which were invariably connecting with his 10th house at right time which helped him for attaining name, fame and in his profession of writing and publishing books. Shri K.N. Rao has the exalted Jupiter in his 10th House and the Mercury in 12th with Ketu. I don't wish to elaborate further this chart here for certain obvious reasons. Swamy. jyotish-vidya , Sreepathi Tantri K <mailsreeps wrote: > > Respected Mam, > > Thanks for your inputs. Was not aware of the > participation of the 11th house. Also I was of the > opinion that the 3rd shows initiative and that it > should be strong for one to make things move. > > Best Regards, > Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Sripathi, 11th, as we know, signifies our long-term hopes and wishes (and the fulfilment of those desires). Again, looking at the chart of KN Rao, we find 11th lord Sun combusting 10th lord Moon (actions in this world), 9th lord Mercury (dharma, vedic science etc) and lagnesh Venus. So we see that his long-term desires are closely associated with these things... And, as I said in previous post, 3rd/6th lord Jupiter, dispositor of YogaKaraka Saturn (in 3rd) and Rahu (in 6th) has brought him world-wide success as an astrologer. No doubt he's worked tirelessly for this...Saturn himself signifies hard work and Rahu, of course, occupies the 6th house of work/service. Rahu in 6th gives passion for the work we do...an irresistible compulsive drive. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 18, 2007 1:41 AM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Respected Mam, Thanks for your inputs. Was not aware of the participation of the 11th house. Also I was of the opinion that the 3rd shows initiative and that it should be strong for one to make things move. Best Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Swamy, //Further the placement of Ketu in the 5th helps one in getting " intuition " which helps the astrologer at times not only to come to a right conclusion among the hundreds of human experience that a house or a planet represent in a chart but also to find out the true intentions of the person in front of him. If this combination (Ketu in 5th has any thing to do with the Jupiter, by way of aspect, it is all the more good for the pursuits of astrology.)// I agree! 5th house occupied by Ketu and aspected by Jupiter is a strong indicator for astrological pursuits...5th governing such things as creative intelligence, knowledge (deep and wise learning), judgement, discretion, advice/counsel etc.. ....this brings up another important point regarding the different roles/talents of the astrologer. The ability of the astrologer to advise a native is very much dependant on 5th house. This is why some astrologers make better teachers whilst others are better advisers. I'm reminded of an old pandit I once new who was gifted with a natural ability to read a chart. His confidence was such that he never hesitated or stumbled for the right words. He had ME/VE in 5th with Mercury enjoying NBRY. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 18, 2007 11:57 AM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear List, Jupiter's aspect on 2nd gives " Vaak Siddhi " and its association with 10th house gives idealism. With this a person could be placed in the category of a good astrologer. Further the placement of Ketu in the 5th helps one in getting " intuition " which helps the astrologer at times not only to come to a right conclusion among the hundreds of human experience that a house or a planet represent in a chart but also to find out the true intentions of the person in front of him. If this combination (Ketu in 5th has any thing to do with the Jupiter, by way of aspect, it is all the more good for the pursuits of astrology.) All the more important was B.V. Raman got the fantastic dasha scheme, which were invariably connecting with his 10th house at right time which helped him for attaining name, fame and in his profession of writing and publishing books. Shri K.N. Rao has the exalted Jupiter in his 10th House and the Mercury in 12th with Ketu. I don't wish to elaborate further this chart here for certain obvious reasons. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, >>>I'm reminded of an old pandit I once new who was gifted with a natural ability to read a chart.His confidence was such that he never hesitated or stumbled for the right words. He had ME/VE in 5th with Mercury enjoying NBRY.>>> Perhaps you are talking about Pandit Nagarathinam's chart. I had his data with me. Once with a computer disk formating problem, I lost some valuable data. If you do not have any kind of reservation in disclosing his data may I request you to share his data in the list? Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Swamy, No problem, the chart is on public record :-) Pundit Navaratnam 4 Mar 1927 (00:46) Jaffna, Sri Lanka Lagna: 23:46:58 Scorpio Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 18, 2007 1:57 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear Mrs. Wendy, >>>I'm reminded of an old pandit I once new who was gifted with a natural ability to read a chart.His confidence was such that he never hesitated or stumbled for the right words. He had ME/VE in 5th with Mercury enjoying NBRY.>>> Perhaps you are talking about Pandit Nagarathinam's chart. I had his data with me. Once with a computer disk formating problem, I lost some valuable data. If you do not have any kind of reservation in disclosing his data may I request you to share his data in the list? Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I sincerely thank you for this data. Swamy. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > No problem, the chart is on public record :-) > > Pundit Navaratnam > 4 Mar 1927 (00:46) > Jaffna, Sri Lanka > Lagna: 23:46:58 Scorpio > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 PS: I read somewhere that Panditji had passed on. I don't know when this was? Maybe Patrice can find out from Andrew... Dear Swamy, No problem, the chart is on public record :-) Pundit Navaratnam 4 Mar 1927 (00:46) Jaffna, Sri Lanka Lagna: 23:46:58 Scorpio Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 18, 2007 1:57 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear Mrs. Wendy, >>>I'm reminded of an old pandit I once new who was gifted with a natural ability to read a chart.His confidence was such that he never hesitated or stumbled for the right words. He had ME/VE in 5th with Mercury enjoying NBRY.>>> Perhaps you are talking about Pandit Nagarathinam's chart. I had his data with me. Once with a computer disk formating problem, I lost some valuable data. If you do not have any kind of reservation in disclosing his data may I request you to share his data in the list? Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, This message I have not received in my mail box at all. It is in the web page of the Group. Lagna is 18:46 Leo Moon is 22:14 Taurus Kindly check whether the birth time fed in the software was right. DOB: September 23rd 1978 Time is 0455 hours or 4:55 AM. Place is New Delhi. - 77E12,28N36 Swami jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > Just very quickly...can you confirm the chart you offered has Capricorn > lagna 19:52:06 > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Swami, Thank you. I've just recast the chart using New Delhi and now get Leo rising with Moon in Taurus (as you say). I think my software must have had a little hiccup when I entered the coordinates manually. Will take a look at the chart after the weekend :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 18, 2007 6:25 PM Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya (JV) Dear Mrs. Wendy, This message I have not received in my mail box at all. It is in the web page of the Group. Lagna is 18:46 Leo Moon is 22:14 Taurus Kindly check whether the birth time fed in the software was right. DOB: September 23rd 1978 Time is 0455 hours or 4:55 AM. Place is New Delhi. - 77E12,28N36 Swami jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > Just very quickly...can you confirm the chart you offered has Capricorn > lagna 19:52:06 > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Respected List, This was a good one. May be it is a good idea to collate these (Inputs from you and Swamy ) into a article and upload into the file section. Similarly the one on the 10th house. Shall envisage on it someday, unless ofcourse it is not a good idea. Further, what would be a strong initiator for such a study, from the perspective of timing the start of such a study? Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Sripathi, > > 11th, as we know, signifies our long-term hopes and > wishes (and the > fulfilment of those desires). Again, looking at the > chart of KN Rao, we find > 11th lord Sun combusting 10th lord Moon (actions in > this world), 9th lord > Mercury (dharma, vedic science etc) and lagnesh > Venus. So we see that his > long-term desires are closely associated with these > things... > > And, as I said in previous post, 3rd/6th lord > Jupiter, dispositor of > YogaKaraka Saturn (in 3rd) and Rahu (in 6th) has > brought him world-wide > success as an astrologer. No doubt he's worked > tirelessly for this...Saturn > himself signifies hard work and Rahu, of course, > occupies the 6th house of > work/service. Rahu in 6th gives passion for the work > we do...an irresistible > compulsive drive. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, May 18, 2007 1:41 AM > Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya > (JV) > > > Respected Mam, > > Thanks for your inputs. Was not aware of the > participation of the 11th house. Also I was of the > opinion that the 3rd shows initiative and that it > should be strong for one to make things move. > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > > > ______________________________\ ____Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Sreepathi, You liked my inputs for which I thank you but the inputs/hints were taught/provided by my teacher. I apply them. When applying those basics/inputs, in actual chart interpretation I get some tangible results that I share here and it is appreciated. Hence the credit goes entirely to my teacher. So the contribution is not purely my own in anyway. Sincerely Swamy. jyotish-vidya , Sreepathi Tantri K <mailsreeps wrote: > > Respected List, > > This was a good one. May be it is a good idea to > collate these (Inputs from you and Swamy ) into a > article and upload into the file section. Similarly > the one on the 10th house. Shall envisage on it > someday, unless ofcourse it is not a good idea. > > Further, what would be a strong initiator for such a > study, from the perspective of timing the start of > such a study? > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sripathi, > > > > 11th, as we know, signifies our long-term hopes and > > wishes (and the > > fulfilment of those desires). Again, looking at the > > chart of KN Rao, we find > > 11th lord Sun combusting 10th lord Moon (actions in > > this world), 9th lord > > Mercury (dharma, vedic science etc) and lagnesh > > Venus. So we see that his > > long-term desires are closely associated with these > > things... > > > > And, as I said in previous post, 3rd/6th lord > > Jupiter, dispositor of > > YogaKaraka Saturn (in 3rd) and Rahu (in 6th) has > > brought him world-wide > > success as an astrologer. No doubt he's worked > > tirelessly for this...Saturn > > himself signifies hard work and Rahu, of course, > > occupies the 6th house of > > work/service. Rahu in 6th gives passion for the work > > we do...an irresistible > > compulsive drive. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > jyotish-vidya > > ___ > > > > > > - > > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > > <jyotish-vidya > > > Friday, May 18, 2007 1:41 AM > > Re: Policy of Jyotish-Vidya > > (JV) > > > > > > Respected Mam, > > > > Thanks for your inputs. Was not aware of the > > participation of the 11th house. Also I was of the > > opinion that the 3rd shows initiative and that it > > should be strong for one to make things move. > > > > Best Regards, > > Sripathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 PS: If I contribute or write anything which is not appreciable or unpalatable to anybody, the fault simply and squarely falls on me which is because of my imperfect understanding of my teacher and his teachings. Swamy. Dear Sreepathi, You liked my inputs for which I thank you but the inputs/hints were taught/provided by my teacher. I apply them. When applying those basics/inputs, in actual chart interpretation I get some tangible results that I share here and it is appreciated. Hence the credit goes entirely to my teacher. So the contribution is not purely my own in anyway. Sincerely Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Dear Swamy, Such a profound understanding(I have no rights to rate it though!) of this wonderful and divine tool and still having humility is an achievement. You are lucky!. And even more fortunate to have a GURU. I am jealous! ;-) Cheers, Sripathi --- muthukumaraswamydesigar <muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote: > PS: If I contribute or write anything which is not > appreciable or > unpalatable to anybody, the fault simply and > squarely falls on me > which is because of my imperfect understanding of my > teacher and his > teachings. > > Swamy. > > > Dear Sreepathi, > > You liked my inputs for which I thank you but the > inputs/hints were > taught/provided by my teacher. I apply them. When > applying those > basics/inputs, in actual chart interpretation I get > some tangible > results that I share here and it is appreciated. > Hence the credit > goes entirely to my teacher. So the contribution is > not purely my > own in anyway. > > Sincerely Swamy. > > > ______________________________\ ____Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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