Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Bhaskar and Chann, I think what is most frustrating for us all is the tendency (of many) to expect astrologers to be able to offer a quick way out of their current difficulties rather than seek to understand what is happening in their chart. No one can give a quick fix, I'm afraid! Once the karma has manifested it must run its course... Apart from the requests on the group, my personal mail box is inundated with requests. When I have the energy to respond (rarely these days), I try to be as honest as I can without being brutally blunt. But, the danger is always there that I may, in fact, be giving false hope...telling it 'As It Is' can be quite difficult and, so, with just a little bit of encouragement people will come back time and again hoping to hear something more positive. I understand this and my heart is full of compassion, but truly, neither I nor anyone else has the power to change the karma that has manifested... This is fact! Chann, I believe, has been (and still is) going through a dreadful ordeal and he's desperate for answers. Unfortunately I cannot tell you much more, Chann, than I've told you previously on this list, but let's go over it (briefly) again. For you, dasa lord Jupiter is a functional benefic and he's conjunct F/M Venus in the 11th house. Further to this, 7th lord Venus is both a permanent and a temporary enemy of Jupiter. Hopefully you can see that this is not a favourable association...harm being caused to you (during this Jupiter dasa) through Venus who is, basically, malefic to your ascendant/self and inimical to your dasa lord. The current dasa of Jupiter through 8th house which is 12th from 9th (Jupiter's moolatrikona) is not at all favourable for you...9th lord Jupiter holds the promise of solutions to problems, remedies and so forth. Most importantly this blessed 9th house, when favourable, enables one to receive and benefit from vedic wisdom (jyotish vidya etc) thus enabling the astrologer to give a satisfactory reading. Afflictions to this house blocks the astrologers ability to give and yours to receive. Can you perhaps see how unfavourable is the transit of 9th lord Jupiter through 8th house. As we know this house governs separation, calamity, conflict and so forth. I think I've mentioned on the list before that I'm an avid tennis fan and a great supporter of Lleyton Hewitt. However his ranking has been falling consistently due to repeated injuries. Like you he has Aries rising with his dasa lord Jupiter transiting 8th house...as we know this house also governs accidents and injuries. For Lleyton, Jupiter is conjunct Saturn in 6th house of competition (ability to overcome competitors etc). Lleyton's birth data is: 24 Feb 1981 (12:00pm) Adelaide, SA Australia Before I go I would like to offer another chart for study, if I may. Again, I think the list is aware that I spent many happy years of my life in Zimbabwe and the suffering of this beautiful country and its people is (for me) very hard to bear. Eighth house in this chart holds four major planets along with Rahu, so, the suffering of this country is not difficult to fathom. Data for Zimbabwe is: 18 Apr 1980 (00:00) Harare, Zimbabwe Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Chann and Wendy, If i may add a personal note, I too have Aries rising with the current dasa lord as Jupiter. As Wendy has pointed out, the transit of jupiter thru the 8th house has brought its share of turmoil. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Wendy, You said: //Can you perhaps see how unfavourable is the transit of 9th lord Jupiter through 8th house. As we know this house governs separation, calamity, conflict and so forth.// Your statement prompted me to look at my wife's chart. She has Aries raising and going through Jup MD since Dec. 2000. In her chart Jup is in the 11th house and not conjunct with any other planet. Her Jup. MD so far is quite good (touch wood!). Only one sad incident that took place was that she lost her mother in 2003. But, I guess Guru's 8th house transit has begun only end October 2006. Since then, she is definitely overloaded in terms of work, first - attending to her pregnant daughter and now taking care of her daugher as well as her grand child. But, she is enjoying it at the same time. What do you think is the reason for reasonably good 8th house transit of Jup? I see her Jupiter in the 11th house under Paapakaratari. Her birth deatils as follows: DOB: 5-May-1962 TOB: 5:45 am POB: Bangalore Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar and Chann, > > I think what is most frustrating for us all is the tendency > (of many) to > expect astrologers to be able to offer a quick way out of > their current > difficulties rather than seek to understand what is happening > in their > chart. No one can give a quick fix, I'm afraid! Once the karma > has > manifested it must run its course... > > Apart from the requests on the group, my personal mail box is > inundated with > requests. When I have the energy to respond (rarely these > days), I try to be > as honest as I can without being brutally blunt. But, the > danger is always > there that I may, in fact, be giving false hope...telling it > 'As It Is' can > be quite difficult and, so, with just a little bit of > encouragement people > will come back time and again hoping to hear something more > positive. I > understand this and my heart is full of compassion, but truly, > neither I nor > anyone else has the power to change the karma that has > manifested... This is > fact! > > Chann, I believe, has been (and still is) going through a > dreadful ordeal > and he's desperate for answers. Unfortunately I cannot tell > you much more, > Chann, than I've told you previously on this list, but let's > go over it > (briefly) again. > > For you, dasa lord Jupiter is a functional benefic and he's > conjunct F/M > Venus in the 11th house. Further to this, 7th lord Venus is > both a permanent > and a temporary enemy of Jupiter. Hopefully you can see that > this is not a > favourable association...harm being caused to you (during this > Jupiter dasa) > through Venus who is, basically, malefic to your > ascendant/self and inimical > to your dasa lord. > > The current dasa of Jupiter through 8th house which is 12th > from 9th > (Jupiter's moolatrikona) is not at all favourable for > you...9th lord Jupiter > holds the promise of solutions to problems, remedies and so > forth. Most > importantly this blessed 9th house, when favourable, enables > one to receive > and benefit from vedic wisdom (jyotish vidya etc) thus > enabling the > astrologer to give a satisfactory reading. Afflictions to this > house blocks > the astrologers ability to give and yours to receive. Can you > perhaps see > how unfavourable is the transit of 9th lord Jupiter through > 8th house. As we > know this house governs separation, calamity, conflict and so > forth. > > I think I've mentioned on the list before that I'm an avid > tennis fan and a > great supporter of Lleyton Hewitt. However his ranking has > been falling > consistently due to repeated injuries. Like you he has Aries > rising with his > dasa lord Jupiter transiting 8th house...as we know this house > also governs > accidents and injuries. For Lleyton, Jupiter is conjunct > Saturn in 6th house > of competition (ability to overcome competitors etc). > > Lleyton's birth data is: > 24 Feb 1981 (12:00pm) > Adelaide, SA > Australia > > Before I go I would like to offer another chart for study, if > I may. Again, > I think the list is aware that I spent many happy years of my > life in > Zimbabwe and the suffering of this beautiful country and its > people is (for > me) very hard to bear. Eighth house in this chart holds four > major planets > along with Rahu, so, the suffering of this country is not > difficult to > fathom. > > Data for Zimbabwe is: > 18 Apr 1980 (00:00) > Harare, Zimbabwe > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Arun, Jupiter we must not forget is also the Lord of Badhaksthana. Transitting again to the 12th from its own sign is going to naturally create defunctness to the good effects of the 9th house. Apart from that its also owner of the 12th, therefore not much explanation is needed for the state of affairs You have witnessed.Also note that the transit is currently through Jyestha Nakshatra and Your 6th house effects would also come in picture, producing bad-health and enemies cropping up in day to day affairs, also arguments on homefront from better half, and so would the 3rd house also be activated, not allowing you to stay at one place,always pushing you on the move to make small journeys hgere and there, mostly unproductive as 8th house (House of obstructions is also involved) and aimless roaming (12th house too in picture). regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, Chann and Wendy, > > If i may add a personal note, I too have Aries rising with the current > dasa lord as Jupiter. As Wendy has pointed out, the transit of jupiter > thru the 8th house has brought its share of turmoil. > > regards > arun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, thank you for your analysis. What you have said is quite true. the 12th house characteristics of confinement and isolation have also played a major part, but strangely there have been quantum leaps in the area of spiritual understanding. the 9th 12th lordship of jupiter has the capability of conferring spiritual knowledge, but, as you know, the seeds of spirituality grows best when it is watered by the rasa of worldly misery. Luckly for me, Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, conjuncts Jupiter in its(saturn's) own house, the 10th, from where it casts its austere glance on the 12th(sayana sukha), the 4th(happiness at home), 7th (worldly relations). Saturn's " gloves off " approach teaches the ephemeral and transitory nature of the above and forces us to look within for support, and I can assure you the eternal witness within all of us, needs only a single invitation to come rushing to our aid. regard arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dear Krishna, In both Chann and Lleyton's chart, Jupiter dasa itself holds the inherent difficulties...culminated, of course, by Jupiter's transit. For your wife, Jupiter is unafflicted in 11th which BTW is 8th from 4th...you mentioned death of mother during this time. PS: I doubt if lagna lord in 2nd from Jupiter can contribute to papa kartari yoga Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 2:35 AM Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Wendy, You said: //Can you perhaps see how unfavourable is the transit of 9th lord Jupiter through 8th house. As we know this house governs separation, calamity, conflict and so forth.// Your statement prompted me to look at my wife's chart. She has Aries raising and going through Jup MD since Dec. 2000. In her chart Jup is in the 11th house and not conjunct with any other planet. Her Jup. MD so far is quite good (touch wood!). Only one sad incident that took place was that she lost her mother in 2003. But, I guess Guru's 8th house transit has begun only end October 2006. Since then, she is definitely overloaded in terms of work, first - attending to her pregnant daughter and now taking care of her daugher as well as her grand child. But, she is enjoying it at the same time. What do you think is the reason for reasonably good 8th house transit of Jup? I see her Jupiter in the 11th house under Paapakaratari. Her birth deatils as follows: DOB: 5-May-1962 TOB: 5:45 am POB: Bangalore Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Wendy, Thanks for the clarifications. //PS: I doubt if lagna lord in 2nd from Jupiter can contribute to papa kartari yoga// Absolutely! Hats off to your observation. Why didn't I think of that! Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > In both Chann and Lleyton's chart, Jupiter dasa itself holds > the inherent > difficulties...culminated, of course, by Jupiter's transit. > For your wife, > Jupiter is unafflicted in 11th which BTW is 8th from 4th...you > mentioned > death of mother during this time. > > PS: I doubt if lagna lord in 2nd from Jupiter can contribute > to papa kartari > yoga > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, March 16, 2007 2:35 AM > Re: Understanding during difficult > times > > > Dear Wendy, > > You said: > > //Can you perhaps see how unfavourable is the transit of 9th > lord Jupiter through 8th house. As we know this house governs > separation, calamity, conflict and so forth.// > > Your statement prompted me to look at my wife's chart. She has > Aries raising and going through Jup MD since Dec. 2000. In her > chart Jup is in the 11th house and not conjunct with any other > planet. > > Her Jup. MD so far is quite good (touch wood!). Only one sad > incident that took place was that she lost her mother in 2003. > But, I guess Guru's 8th house transit has begun only end > October > 2006. Since then, she is definitely overloaded in terms of > work, > first - attending to her pregnant daughter and now taking care > of her daugher as well as her grand child. But, she is > enjoying > it at the same time. > > What do you think is the reason for reasonably good 8th house > transit of Jup? I see her Jupiter in the 11th house under > Paapakaratari. > > Her birth deatils as follows: > > DOB: 5-May-1962 > TOB: 5:45 am > POB: Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Krishna, As we've said many times every chart is unique...even with similar placements results will differ according to other influences. For instance, in your wife's chart the connection with mother is apparent with Jupiter's star lord (Rahu) in Moon's sign in 4th... Every chart is unique and one cannot reach a conclusion without considering all the factors. I shy away from queries that ask; " what is the effect of (whatever) planet in (whatever) house " as it's just not possible to give anything but the broadest generalisation without seeing the complete picture. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 2:08 PM Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Wendy, Thanks for the clarifications. //PS: I doubt if lagna lord in 2nd from Jupiter can contribute to papa kartari yoga// Absolutely! Hats off to your observation. Why didn't I think of that! Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Wendy, I am in full agreement with what you said about each chart is being unique and how we need to look at it from many different angles. One more point to add about my wife's chart and her mother's death: Notice, that the death took place during Jup-Sat period. Jup is disposed by Saturn in Rasi and Jup aspects Sat in Navamsa. There is a strong interaction between the two. Saturn also aspects the 4th house in Rasi. My father-in-law comes and asks me how long more he is going to live. I am trying to find the answer using my wife's chart: The ninth from Lagna/Ravi is Sagittarius. There are no planets in there. 8th from that is Cancer lorded by Moon and occupied by Rahu. Jupiter is in Rahu's Nakshatra and Venus and Saturn are in Moon's nakshatra. Jup-Sat period is already passed. I assume that Sat could not harm father as Sun is exalted. That leads me to Jup-Ven. Though Ven is in the 4th house from Jup, in both houses, in terms of degrees, there is a full power 4th house aspect (3/4th aspect) on Venus and a reasonably good 5th house aspect as well. Hence, Jup could direct Venus to do things. Jup-Ven period: Nov. 2008 to Jul 2011. Furhter, Venus is in Moon's Nakshatra and Moon is in Venus's Rasi. Hence, there is a strong interplay between Moon and Venus as well. Hence, my guess is that, my father-in-law has a critical period during Jup-Ven-Moon period: June 2009 to Aug 2009. Do you think my analysis makes sense? Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > As we've said many times every chart is unique...even with > similar > placements results will differ according to other influences. > For instance, > in your wife's chart the connection with mother is apparent > with Jupiter's > star lord (Rahu) in Moon's sign in 4th... > > Every chart is unique and one cannot reach a conclusion > without considering > all the factors. I shy away from queries that ask; " what is > the effect of > (whatever) planet in (whatever) house " as it's just not > possible to give > anything but the broadest generalisation without seeing the > complete > picture. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, March 16, 2007 2:08 PM > Re: Understanding during difficult > times > > > Dear Wendy, > > Thanks for the clarifications. > > //PS: I doubt if lagna lord in 2nd from Jupiter can contribute > to papa kartari yoga// > > Absolutely! Hats off to your observation. Why didn't I think > of > that! > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Krishna, Taking 10th house as father, you might consider the upcoming transit of the nodes (10th/4th axis) as well as Jupiter's transit through 9th (12th from 10th). //One more point to add about my wife's chart and her mother's death: Notice, that the death took place during Jup-Sat period.// What was the PD? Can you give the date please. Also bear in mind 3rd house in relation to death of parents. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 3:25 PM Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Wendy, I am in full agreement with what you said about each chart is being unique and how we need to look at it from many different angles. One more point to add about my wife's chart and her mother's death: Notice, that the death took place during Jup-Sat period. Jup is disposed by Saturn in Rasi and Jup aspects Sat in Navamsa. There is a strong interaction between the two. Saturn also aspects the 4th house in Rasi. My father-in-law comes and asks me how long more he is going to live. I am trying to find the answer using my wife's chart: The ninth from Lagna/Ravi is Sagittarius. There are no planets in there. 8th from that is Cancer lorded by Moon and occupied by Rahu. Jupiter is in Rahu's Nakshatra and Venus and Saturn are in Moon's nakshatra. Jup-Sat period is already passed. I assume that Sat could not harm father as Sun is exalted. That leads me to Jup-Ven. Though Ven is in the 4th house from Jup, in both houses, in terms of degrees, there is a full power 4th house aspect (3/4th aspect) on Venus and a reasonably good 5th house aspect as well. Hence, Jup could direct Venus to do things. Jup-Ven period: Nov. 2008 to Jul 2011. Furhter, Venus is in Moon's Nakshatra and Moon is in Venus's Rasi. Hence, there is a strong interplay between Moon and Venus as well. Hence, my guess is that, my father-in-law has a critical period during Jup-Ven-Moon period: June 2009 to Aug 2009. Do you think my analysis makes sense? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Arun, Well said. All the Planets specially Saturn, is so misunderstood as dreadful, but in fact is actually the life giver(Longevity), the owner of karma sthana (10th) and Labha thereof (11th) in the natural horoscope,and when it punishes,it takes out all the water from the person for his own good, and when he rewards (he does so only to good persons ),it is over flowing in form of content,peace and riches too, It provides the sustenance and patience much needed in Meditation and religious rites. Best example is person with saturn in 11th. Whatever he earns, no one can take away fom this person as Saturn has provided, and who has the guts to face Saturn ? even the Gods tremble at such prospects. Once a native starts loving Saturn, and behaves in the manner he wants us to, (Good,religious,Moral, Helpful, kind and serving to all), then Saturn becomes the Supporter and His kind glance would provide all protection desired. And for those who do not behave properly and then blame Saturn for their woes, better know that , Jupiter dasha is followed by Saturn so better not take undue advantage in Jupiters Dasha who is the Giver, for Saturn would take account when He gets the power to rule. so better not wait for Saturn to punish us for our excesses. Better remain and practise goodness from today itself, is right for all of us. Sorry that lecture was not for anyone specially, maybe just for me Myself. Tomorrow Saturday comes. Better I talk good about Him from now itself. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > thank you for your analysis. What you have said is quite true. the 12th > house characteristics of confinement and isolation have also played a > major part, but strangely there have been quantum leaps in the area of > spiritual understanding. the 9th 12th lordship of jupiter has the > capability of conferring spiritual knowledge, but, as you know, the > seeds of spirituality grows best when it is watered by the rasa of > worldly misery. Luckly for me, Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, > conjuncts Jupiter in its(saturn's) own house, the 10th, from where it > casts its austere glance on the 12th(sayana sukha), the 4th (happiness > at home), 7th (worldly relations). Saturn's " gloves off " approach > teaches the ephemeral and transitory nature of the above and forces us > to look within for support, and I can assure you the eternal witness > within all of us, needs only a single invitation to come rushing to our > aid. > > regard > arun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Wedny, //Taking 10th house as father, you might consider the upcoming transit of the nodes (10th/4th axis) as well as Jupiter's transit through 9th (12th from 10th).// For the period that I calculated earlier (June - Aug 2009), Rahu would be transiting the 9th house and Jup would transiting the 12th house in my wife's chart. One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this practice is there only in South India. //What was the PD? Can you give the date please.// My mother-in-law passed away on 23-11-2003 which indicates the period as Jup-Sat-Ketu in my wife's chart. Ketu is conjunct Sat and in the Nakshatra of Moon. Amazing! //Also bear in mind 3rd house in relation to death of parents.// The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. But, I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > Taking 10th house as father, you might consider the upcoming > transit of the > nodes (10th/4th axis) as well as Jupiter's transit through 9th > (12th from > 10th). > > //One more point to add about my wife's chart and her mother's > death: Notice, that the death took place during Jup-Sat > period.// > > What was the PD? Can you give the date please. Also bear in > mind 3rd house > in relation to death of parents. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, March 16, 2007 3:25 PM > Re: Understanding during difficult > times > > > Dear Wendy, > > I am in full agreement with what you said about each chart is > being unique and how we need to look at it from many different > angles. > > One more point to add about my wife's chart and her mother's > death: Notice, that the death took place during Jup-Sat > period. > Jup is disposed by Saturn in Rasi and Jup aspects Sat in > Navamsa. There is a strong interaction between the two. Saturn > also aspects the 4th house in Rasi. > > My father-in-law comes and asks me how long more he is going > to > live. I am trying to find the answer using my wife's chart: > > The ninth from Lagna/Ravi is Sagittarius. There are no planets > in there. 8th from that is Cancer lorded by Moon and occupied > by > Rahu. Jupiter is in Rahu's Nakshatra and Venus and Saturn are > in Moon's nakshatra. Jup-Sat period is already passed. I > assume > that Sat could not harm father as Sun is exalted. That leads > me > to Jup-Ven. Though Ven is in the 4th house from Jup, in both > houses, in terms of degrees, there is a full power 4th house > aspect (3/4th aspect) on Venus and a reasonably good 5th house > aspect as well. Hence, Jup could direct Venus to do things. > Jup-Ven period: Nov. 2008 to Jul 2011. Furhter, Venus is in > Moon's Nakshatra and Moon is in Venus's Rasi. Hence, there is > a > strong interplay between Moon and Venus as well. Hence, my > guess > is that, my father-in-law has a critical period during > Jup-Ven-Moon period: June 2009 to Aug 2009. > > Do you think my analysis makes sense? > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Krishna, //One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this practice is there only in South India.// No! astrologers in South India generally consider 9th house for father. In North India 10th house is considered. As we know, preceptor/guru is seen from 9th and, as father was traditionally one's spiritual preceptor, this house is also considered as house of father. There are other reasons also why 9th is considered in South India but I won't go into that here to avoid controversy. It's clear in BPHS (Ch.11) that 10th (7th from 4th) is the house of father. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm **10.NINTH HOUSE: Fortunes, wife's brother, religion, brother's wife, visits to shrines, etc, be known from the 9th house. 11.TENTH HOUSE: Royalty (authority), place, profession (livelihood), honor, father, living in foreign lands, and debts are to be understood from the 10th house.** //The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. But, I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000.// If I'm not mistaken you were running SA-SA-JU-VE dasa at that time. Jupiter occupies 3rd whilst Venus is lord of 3rd. You might care to look at the transits for that date. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 5:42 PM Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Wedny, //Taking 10th house as father, you might consider the upcoming transit of the nodes (10th/4th axis) as well as Jupiter's transit through 9th (12th from 10th).// For the period that I calculated earlier (June - Aug 2009), Rahu would be transiting the 9th house and Jup would transiting the 12th house in my wife's chart. One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this practice is there only in South India. //What was the PD? Can you give the date please.// My mother-in-law passed away on 23-11-2003 which indicates the period as Jup-Sat-Ketu in my wife's chart. Ketu is conjunct Sat and in the Nakshatra of Moon. Amazing! //Also bear in mind 3rd house in relation to death of parents.// The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. But, I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Krishna, //The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. But, I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000.// Please also see BPHS Ch.11: http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm **4. THIRD HOUSE: From the 3rd house, know of the following: valor, servants (attendants), brothers, sisters, etc., initiatory instructions, journey, and parent's death.** Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 6:27 PM Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Krishna, //One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this practice is there only in South India.// No! astrologers in South India generally consider 9th house for father. In North India 10th house is considered. As we know, preceptor/guru is seen from 9th and, as father was traditionally one's spiritual preceptor, this house is also considered as house of father. There are other reasons also why 9th is considered in South India but I won't go into that here to avoid controversy. It's clear in BPHS (Ch.11) that 10th (7th from 4th) is the house of father. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm **10.NINTH HOUSE: Fortunes, wife's brother, religion, brother's wife, visits to shrines, etc, be known from the 9th house. 11.TENTH HOUSE: Royalty (authority), place, profession (livelihood), honor, father, living in foreign lands, and debts are to be understood from the 10th house.** //The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. But, I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000.// If I'm not mistaken you were running SA-SA-JU-VE dasa at that time. Jupiter occupies 3rd whilst Venus is lord of 3rd. You might care to look at the transits for that date. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Wendy, //If I'm not mistaken you were running SA-SA-JU-VE dasa at that time. Jupiter occupies 3rd whilst Venus is lord of 3rd. You might care to look at the transits for that date.// on that date, All three - Sat, Jup and Venus were transiting my 9th house and aspecting the third. In addition Sun and Mercury were also in the same house. Interstingly, four planets were combust on that day - Jup, Sat, ven and Mer. Consequently, Sun was also severly afflicted. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this > practice is there only in South India.// > > No! astrologers in South India generally consider 9th house > for father. In > North India 10th house is considered. > > As we know, preceptor/guru is seen from 9th and, as father was > traditionally > one's spiritual preceptor, this house is also considered as > house of father. > There are other reasons also why 9th is considered in South > India but I > won't go into that here to avoid controversy. > > It's clear in BPHS (Ch.11) that 10th (7th from 4th) is the > house of father. > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm > > **10.NINTH HOUSE: > Fortunes, wife's brother, religion, brother's wife, visits to > shrines, etc, > be known from the 9th house. > > 11.TENTH HOUSE: > Royalty (authority), place, profession (livelihood), honor, > father, living > in foreign lands, and debts are to be understood from the 10th > house.** > > //The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by > Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. > But, > I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my > father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on > 5-5-2000.// > > If I'm not mistaken you were running SA-SA-JU-VE dasa at that > time. Jupiter > occupies 3rd whilst Venus is lord of 3rd. You might care to > look at the > transits for that date. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, March 16, 2007 5:42 PM > Re: Understanding during difficult > times > > > Dear Wedny, > > //Taking 10th house as father, you might consider the upcoming > transit of the nodes (10th/4th axis) as well as Jupiter's > transit through 9th (12th from 10th).// > > For the period that I calculated earlier (June - Aug 2009), > Rahu > would be transiting the 9th house and Jup would transiting the > 12th house in my wife's chart. > > One question: Why consider 10th as fater? I thought this > practice is there only in South India. > > //What was the PD? Can you give the date please.// > > My mother-in-law passed away on 23-11-2003 which indicates the > period as Jup-Sat-Ketu in my wife's chart. Ketu is conjunct > Sat > and in the Nakshatra of Moon. Amazing! > > //Also bear in mind 3rd house in relation to death of > parents.// > > The third house is Gemini contains no planets, aspected by > Jupiter. Makes sense as her mother died during her Jup MD. > But, > I don't see a similar correlation of the third house for my > father's death in my chart. My fater passed away on 5-5-2000. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Arun, Honestly, i do not know the exact impact of Guru's transit thru 8th house and how it affects my chart in perticular and Aries rising persons running Guru MD and Gur AD in general. My personal note is My wife left me during Guru-Guru-Guru!!!!! And now She's SURRENDERED and agreed to join me as per my TERMS!!! Then suddenly i started looking into Astro (as i am still learning) currently i am running Guru-Guru-Rahu!! so bit cautious whether to take her back during this Rahu PD. As some learned people in the fourm including Mrs. Wendy discessed once that, whatever you GAIN during Rahu period will be lost once the Rahu period ends!!. So i want to know from the learned people out here that, does it hold true for Guru-Guru-Rahu period as well?? Guru-Guru-Rahu dasa is also called " Guru Chandal Dasa " Again and again i am getting confirmation that, my chart is Typical and a Classic example.!! :-):-) Regards Chann jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, Chann and Wendy, > > If i may add a personal note, I too have Aries rising with the current > dasa lord as Jupiter. As Wendy has pointed out, the transit of jupiter > thru the 8th house has brought its share of turmoil. > > regards > arun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Wendy and Chandu, I've heard that whatever gain one makes in Rahu mahadasa/antar, will be lost- I am not sure Wendy said that, and would like to hear her opinion and/or to what extent this apply. Rahu D. is too long. and one may think of it being like a big misfortune. I haven't seen that yet. I've seen what Rahu-antar dasa brings, Jupiter/next antar/ takes away. Just to share my ex.:I got married in Venus/Rahu, separated in Ve/Ju! I've seen so many people buying property in Rahu mahadasa, cann't be a coincidence!/?/ Regards, Anna Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006 wrote: Dear Arun, Honestly, i do not know the exact impact of Guru's transit thru 8th house and how it affects my chart in perticular and Aries rising persons running Guru MD and Gur AD in general. My personal note is My wife left me during Guru-Guru-Guru!!!!! And now She's SURRENDERED and agreed to join me as per my TERMS!!! Then suddenly i started looking into Astro (as i am still learning) currently i am running Guru-Guru-Rahu!! so bit cautious whether to take her back during this Rahu PD. As some learned people in the fourm including Mrs. Wendy discessed once that, whatever you GAIN during Rahu period will be lost once the Rahu period ends!!. So i want to know from the learned people out here that, does it hold true for Guru-Guru-Rahu period as well?? Guru-Guru-Rahu dasa is also called " Guru Chandal Dasa " Again and again i am getting confirmation that, my chart is Typical and a Classic example.!! :-):-) Regards Chann jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, Chann and Wendy, > > If i may add a personal note, I too have Aries rising with the current > dasa lord as Jupiter. As Wendy has pointed out, the transit of jupiter > thru the 8th house has brought its share of turmoil. > > regards > arun > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Anna, Yes, scripture states that what Rahu gives is (generally) not lasting and is often lost at the end of his dasa. No doubt, when well placed, Rahu certainly can bring quick success...often quite phenomenal! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " A.R. " <bonamente108 <jyotish-vidya > Friday, March 16, 2007 8:39 PM Re: Re: Understanding during difficult times Dear Wendy and Chandu, I've heard that whatever gain one makes in Rahu mahadasa/antar, will be lost- I am not sure Wendy said that, and would like to hear her opinion and/or to what extent this apply. Rahu D. is too long. and one may think of it being like a big misfortune. I haven't seen that yet. I've seen what Rahu-antar dasa brings, Jupiter/next antar/ takes away. Just to share my ex.:I got married in Venus/Rahu, separated in Ve/Ju! I've seen so many people buying property in Rahu mahadasa, cann't be a coincidence!/?/ Regards, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Chann, I searched for your birth details amongst the messages. I could not locate it. Can you provide it again? regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Dear Chann, //Guru-Guru-Rahu dasa is also called " Guru Chandal Dasa " Again and again i am getting confirmation that, my chart is Typical and a Classic example.!! :-):-)// Lot of people go through Guru-Guru-Rahu period once in their life. What is so special or classic about it? Or do I miss something here? Regards, Krishna --- Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006 wrote: > Dear Arun, > > Honestly, i do not know the exact impact of Guru's transit > thru 8th > house and how it affects my chart in perticular and Aries > rising > persons running Guru MD and Gur AD in general. > > My personal note is My wife left me during Guru-Guru-Guru!!!!! > And now > She's SURRENDERED and agreed to join me as per my TERMS!!! > Then > suddenly i started looking into Astro (as i am still learning) > currently i am running Guru-Guru-Rahu!! so bit cautious > whether to > take her back during this Rahu PD. > > As some learned people in the fourm including Mrs. Wendy > discessed > once that, whatever you GAIN during Rahu period will be lost > once the > Rahu period ends!!. > > So i want to know from the learned people out here that, does > it hold > true for Guru-Guru-Rahu period as well?? > > Guru-Guru-Rahu dasa is also called " Guru Chandal Dasa " Again > and again > i am getting confirmation that, my chart is Typical and a > Classic > example.!! :-):-) > > Regards > > Chann > > > jyotish-vidya , " arun " > <savitarcyber wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, Chann and Wendy, > > > > If i may add a personal note, I too have Aries rising with > the current > > dasa lord as Jupiter. As Wendy has pointed out, the transit > of jupiter > > thru the 8th house has brought its share of turmoil. > > > > regards > > arun > > > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Dear Sri. Arun, Here's the details DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India Latitude: 015:43:N Longitude:075:23:E Appreciate your feedback. Regards Chann jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Chann, > > I searched for your birth details amongst the messages. I could not > locate it. Can you provide it again? > > regards > arun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Dear Chann, Your Lagna Lord Mars, 1st in Shadbala, is well placed in the 9th in sagittarius, but in mutual aspect with Saturn. Saturn though 6th in shadbala is by no means weak, as it is the dispositor of all the planets aside from its exchange with Mercury, a malefic. Any form of Saturn - Mars association is always an indication that martian energies are being hijacked by Saturn. Here Saturn is an inauspicious planet. Since Mars is you Lagna Lord, Saturn's detrimental influence will colour nearly every aspect of your life. Moon, by itself, is a malefic only 11deg away from sun (dark half of the lunar month) and is placed in worst enemy, Satun's house. Moon's associates with Mercury, who as a result of its 3rd and 6th rulership becomes a carrier of egoism excessive use of force and a maniuplative nature. Moon - Mercury associations usually indicate some form of paranoia unless under benefic influences. In this case there are no benefic influences. Over and above all this Moon is the 4th Lord, the significator of the mind, a role it anyway plays even in its natural capacity. Actually, I fear for your wife. In our society for a women to go away itself is a major act, not easiy to do as our society is more concerned with appearances than individual predicaments, and were you cannot rely on you parents to bail you out. She has come back, and now you are thinking of asking her to go back? Saturn will enter Leo soon and that would produce Astama Sani, a very difficult period indeed. My advise to you, is to bury the hatchet, literally. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Dear Sri. Arun, Appreciate your kind reading and value your time. Thank you for the same. I don't want to comment/ask anything about your Astro reading, but would like to put my 2 cents on your below points and advise which TOUCHED my heart. //Actually, I fear for your wife. In our society for a women to go away itself is a major act, not easiy to do as our society is more concerned with appearances than individual predicaments, and were you cannot rely on you parents to bail you out. She has come back, and now you are thinking of asking her to go back?// YES, I also came from a family who has reputation and respect in Society where we live. I personally believe in Indian treditions and value Indian customs. That's the reason still i wanted/wants to give a chance to my marriage. Despite her misbehaviours and false allegations on my Father and abusing my loving Mother. You might be aware now-a-days what's happening in India Institution of Marriage has been hijacked by unscrupulous Women and they (Some greedy wives and their Parents) spoiling the whole family structure by putting false 498a cases on their respective Husbands and old age In-laws. (For more info you can just google IPC 498a, visit SaveIndianFamily or mynation.net) Still i love my wife because God has bestowed me with some knowledge and little intelligent and the knowledge and experience what i learned from my parents and from society where i grown-up. So definitely i am READY to bury the hatchet as you have also advised the same thing. And now she's come its my DUTY to accept her... Thank you once again God Bless you all. Regards Chann jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote: > > Dear Chann, > > Your Lagna Lord Mars, 1st in Shadbala, is well placed in the 9th in > sagittarius, but in mutual aspect with Saturn. Saturn though 6th in > shadbala is by no means weak, as it is the dispositor of all the > planets aside from its exchange with Mercury, a malefic. Any form of > Saturn - Mars association is always an indication that martian > energies are being hijacked by Saturn. Here Saturn is an inauspicious > planet. Since Mars is you Lagna Lord, Saturn's detrimental influence > will colour nearly every aspect of your life. > > Moon, by itself, is a malefic only 11deg away from sun (dark half of > the lunar month) and is placed in worst enemy, Satun's house. Moon's > associates with Mercury, who as a result of its 3rd and 6th rulership > becomes a carrier of egoism excessive use of force and a maniuplative > nature. Moon - Mercury associations usually indicate some form of > paranoia unless under benefic influences. In this case there are no > benefic influences. Over and above all this Moon is the 4th Lord, the > significator of the mind, a role it anyway plays even in its natural > capacity. > > Actually, I fear for your wife. In our society for a women to go away > itself is a major act, not easiy to do as our society is more > concerned with appearances than individual predicaments, and were you > cannot rely on you parents to bail you out. She has come back, and > now you are thinking of asking her to go back? > > Saturn will enter Leo soon and that would produce Astama Sani, a very > difficult period indeed. My advise to you, is to bury the hatchet, > literally. > > > regards > arun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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