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Dear Shiva,

 

please give us the birth details for a complete analysis. ketu has its

advantages, can just as easily make one spiritually inclined.

 

regards

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dear arunji,

details are 20th oct 1973, vadodara, Gujrat, India

23.22 hours saturday

 

It is in gemini ( and therefore debilitated?).Look forward to hearing

from you.

 

many thanks

shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

>

> please give us the birth details for a complete analysis. ketu has its

> advantages, can just as easily make one spiritually inclined.

>

> regards

> arun

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Dear Shiva,

 

Areas of concern are:

1.The presence of two malefics in the Lagna and the lagna lord

cuspally positioned. Lagna Lord stand only 4th in Shadbala

 

2. Mars is the final dispositor of all the planets except moon. Mars

stands first in shadbala and being the ruler of the 6th and 11th is

both a natural and functional malefic. Mars aspects Moon, the karaka

of the mind and the 4th Lord Mercury, giving a short tempered, and

easily excitable nature.

 

regards

arun

 

jyotish-vidya , " theblisswithin "

<theblisswithin wrote:

>

> dear arunji,

> details are 20th oct 1973, vadodara, Gujrat, India

> 23.22 hours saturday

>

> It is in gemini ( and therefore debilitated?).Look forward to

hearing

> from you.

>

> many thanks

> shiva

>

> jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shiva,

> >

> > please give us the birth details for a complete analysis. ketu

has its

> > advantages, can just as easily make one spiritually inclined.

> >

> > regards

> > arun

> >

>

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Thanks a lot Arunji for that terrific analysis!

Could you please elaborate a bit on cuspal mercury and how it affects

a native.

 

If I understand correctly, you meant to say that Mars aspecting

Mercury (direct opposition) makes one verbally aggressive. Does Mars

opposing Sun also add to that or affect in some way the aggression

situation.

 

How would the mars being retro affect all of this. Would be grateful

to have any insights/remedies.

 

Thanks again

Shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

>

> Areas of concern are:

> 1.The presence of two malefics in the Lagna and the lagna lord

> cuspally positioned. Lagna Lord stand only 4th in Shadbala

>

> 2. Mars is the final dispositor of all the planets except moon. Mars

> stands first in shadbala and being the ruler of the 6th and 11th is

> both a natural and functional malefic. Mars aspects Moon, the karaka

> of the mind and the 4th Lord Mercury, giving a short tempered, and

> easily excitable nature.

>

> regards

> arun

>

> jyotish-vidya , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > dear arunji,

> > details are 20th oct 1973, vadodara, Gujrat, India

> > 23.22 hours saturday

> >

> > It is in gemini ( and therefore debilitated?).Look forward to

> hearing

> > from you.

> >

> > many thanks

> > shiva

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shiva,

> > >

> > > please give us the birth details for a complete analysis. ketu

> has its

> > > advantages, can just as easily make one spiritually inclined.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > arun

> > >

> >

>

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How about Ketu in conjunction with Venus in 5th house? (Or any other house???)

When will Ketu make one spiritual?

 

Thanks

Carana Padma

 

arun <savitarcyber wrote:

Dear Shiva,

 

please give us the birth details for a complete analysis. ketu has its

advantages, can just as easily make one spiritually inclined.

 

regards

arun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Shiva

 

When the lagna lord is cuspal it gets weakened and taken along with

the two malefics in the lagna indicate considerable afflication to

the signification of the first house. When the lagna is not fortified

all negative potentials in the chart will find easier expression and

may express themselves strongly. The native may find it more

difficult to " bounce back " .

 

I was pointing out the mind when refering to moon (the natural

significator of the mind) and mercury (4th house - mind) But you are

right, Mars' aspect on Mercury (signficator of communication) and its

aspect on the second house (house of speech and communication) and

the second lord does make the communication aggressive.

 

Retro usually makes the planet stronger (in this case stronger to do

evil), Retro can also be interpreted as a turning inwards (the energy

may turn inwards ).

Sun is quite weak in shadbala (6th), the debility gets partially

cancelled (atleast two factors to fully cancel debility) because Mars

is in a quadrant from the moon. Sun is also in a martian nakshatra

and is therefore afflicted. The significations of the third house

will suffer.

 

The remedial measures should be addressed to Mars and Mercury

 

regards

arun

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Dear Carana padma,

 

Ketu's position in the 9th and 12th, its association with benefics and

the overall 'feel' will tell us whether it is spiritual or not. Even if

ketu and moon are conjoint it can produce spirituality. Aquarius is

considered a very spirtual sign. I think the whole chart will have to

be looked into.

 

 

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Thanks Arunji again,

That explanation was very healing for me.

If I could bother you for one additional clarification, it would be

how Mars opposing Sun affects the Sun. Does it not help the Sun (

like giving it some more masculine energy, drive etc.?)

 

Some months ago I went to a temple. The priest happened to remark

that I should start doing some Hanuman mantra. It was unexpected,

since he was not coming from an astrological point of view anyway.

 

Don't know why but I started doing it. 2 days later I fell down hard

on my head, some blood came out too, left a mark. Also, someone stole

a chunk of money from my mother.

 

What I am wondering is, is doing this Hanuman Sadhana making that

Mars even stronger and therefore causing more problems.

 

Should I focus on 'toning down' the Mars in some way instead. But

other angle is that Hanuman being the lord of mars can remove the

affliction and make it positive and weaker ( or stronger...whatever

is good)?

 

Thanks again.

I am a novice and have nothing to offer for the readings that

generous people like you give here. But recently I have bought a book

by Komilla Sutton about nakshatras. IF someone wants I can write a

brief report for their nakshatras once in a while.

 

Pranams

Shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva

>

> When the lagna lord is cuspal it gets weakened and taken along with

> the two malefics in the lagna indicate considerable afflication to

> the signification of the first house. When the lagna is not

fortified

> all negative potentials in the chart will find easier expression

and

> may express themselves strongly. The native may find it more

> difficult to " bounce back " .

>

> I was pointing out the mind when refering to moon (the natural

> significator of the mind) and mercury (4th house - mind) But you

are

> right, Mars' aspect on Mercury (signficator of communication) and

its

> aspect on the second house (house of speech and communication) and

> the second lord does make the communication aggressive.

>

> Retro usually makes the planet stronger (in this case stronger to

do

> evil), Retro can also be interpreted as a turning inwards (the

energy

> may turn inwards ).

> Sun is quite weak in shadbala (6th), the debility gets partially

> cancelled (atleast two factors to fully cancel debility) because

Mars

> is in a quadrant from the moon. Sun is also in a martian nakshatra

> and is therefore afflicted. The significations of the third house

> will suffer.

>

> The remedial measures should be addressed to Mars and Mercury

>

> regards

> arun

>

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jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber

wrote:

>

> Dear Carana padma,

>

> Ketu's position in the 9th and 12th, its association with benefics

and

> the overall 'feel' will tell us whether it is spiritual or not.

Even if

> ketu and moon are conjoint it can produce spirituality. Aquarius

is

> considered a very spirtual sign. I think the whole chart will have

to

> be looked into.

>

>

> regards

> arun

>

 

 

|| Jaya Jaya Jagannatha ||

 

 

In the charts of Lord Rama and In Indra Gandhi... Kethu is in

Gemeni.

 

Gemini is Kala Purusha's third sign. one of the Kama Trikona.

 

Kethu is for renunciation. Kethu's Natural quality is denying the

fruits of the house where posited.

 

When Kethu is in Lagna, this gives less attachment towards

the worldly things.

 

lagna Kethu may lead to do sinful acts too.Also this gives peculier

nature.

 

We need other pointers too to confirm these results.

 

Above are general.

 

sarasalai_siva

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Dear Sarasalai ji,

Someone told me Komilla Sutton says this in her book on nodes that

ketu in gemini is intuitive intellect.

I suppose it might mean the native is not very logical?

 

 

Regards

Shiva

 

 

hear

jyotish-vidya , " sarasalai_siva "

<sarasalai_siva wrote:

>

> jyotish-vidya , " arun " <savitarcyber@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Carana padma,

> >

> > Ketu's position in the 9th and 12th, its association with benefics

> and

> > the overall 'feel' will tell us whether it is spiritual or not.

> Even if

> > ketu and moon are conjoint it can produce spirituality. Aquarius

> is

> > considered a very spirtual sign. I think the whole chart will have

> to

> > be looked into.

> >

> >

> > regards

> > arun

> >

>

>

> || Jaya Jaya Jagannatha ||

>

>

> In the charts of Lord Rama and In Indra Gandhi... Kethu is in

> Gemeni.

>

> Gemini is Kala Purusha's third sign. one of the Kama Trikona.

>

> Kethu is for renunciation. Kethu's Natural quality is denying the

> fruits of the house where posited.

>

> When Kethu is in Lagna, this gives less attachment towards

> the worldly things.

>

> lagna Kethu may lead to do sinful acts too.Also this gives peculier

> nature.

>

> We need other pointers too to confirm these results.

>

> Above are general.

>

> sarasalai_siva

>

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Dear Shiva,

 

Hopefully you won't mind if I offer an opinion here :-)

 

It is said that Ketu, the headless trunk, benefits from it's placement in

the intellectual sign of Mercury. Ketu himself is a significator for

discriminative powers, intuition, psychic ability etc., and, when associated

with Mercury, these basic tendencies are influenced by the

logical/intellectual qualities of Mercury...

 

Ketu in 8th (for instance) in sign of Mercury is said to give great

intuition and discrimination in occult or mystical subjects.

 

I personally have not read any of Komilla Sutton's books, but I do know that

she has built a career as an astrologer. This is evident in her horoscope,

which she (herself) put in the public domain during an interview with Gary

Phillipson: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/komilla.html

 

I've spoken earlier about the ability of Rahu to raise one up in the

world...bestowing a certain level of success and recognition. Not surprising

then is Rahu's conjunction (in dashamsha) with Venus, dispositor of (natal)

1st/10th lord Jupiter. Of course there's much more in dashamsha worth taking

note of i.e., 10th lord Jupiter in 9th dashamsha, 9th lord's dispositor in

10th dashamsha etc..

 

Of the few articles (of Komilla's) I've read I find I'm not entirely in

agreement with all of her views... but that's the way it is with jyotish, we

all see through different eyes...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" theblisswithin " <theblisswithin

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:18 AM

Re: Ketu in Lagna

 

 

Dear Sarasalai ji,

Someone told me Komilla Sutton says this in her book on nodes that

ketu in gemini is intuitive intellect.

I suppose it might mean the native is not very logical?

 

 

Regards

Shiva

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jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

>

> Hopefully you won't mind if I offer an opinion here :-)

>

> It is said that Ketu, the headless trunk, benefits from it's

placement in

> the intellectual sign of Mercury. Ketu himself is a significator

for

> discriminative powers, intuition, psychic ability etc., and, when

associated

> with Mercury, these basic tendencies are influenced by the

> logical/intellectual qualities of Mercury...

>

> Ketu in 8th (for instance) in sign of Mercury is said to give

great

> intuition and discrimination in occult or mystical subjects.

>

> I personally have not read any of Komilla Sutton's books, but I do

know that

> she has built a career as an astrologer. This is evident in her

horoscope,

> which she (herself) put in the public domain during an interview

with Gary

> Phillipson: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/komilla.html

>

> I've spoken earlier about the ability of Rahu to raise one up in

the

> world...bestowing a certain level of success and recognition. Not

surprising

> then is Rahu's conjunction (in dashamsha) with Venus, dispositor

of (natal)

> 1st/10th lord Jupiter. Of course there's much more in dashamsha

worth taking

> note of i.e., 10th lord Jupiter in 9th dashamsha, 9th lord's

dispositor in

> 10th dashamsha etc..

>

> Of the few articles (of Komilla's) I've read I find I'm not

entirely in

> agreement with all of her views... but that's the way it is with

jyotish, we

> all see through different eyes...

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " theblisswithin " <theblisswithin

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:18 AM

> Re: Ketu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Sarasalai ji,

> Someone told me Komilla Sutton says this in her book on nodes that

> ketu in gemini is intuitive intellect.

> I suppose it might mean the native is not very logical?

>

>

> Regards

> Shiva

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||

 

Namaskar Wendy and Shiva,

 

1) Kethu in Gemini is dangerous.

 

2) Gemini Lagna females should move carefully with males.

 

The above 2 pointers are mentioned by Dr.B.V.Raman. ( if I remember

well ).

 

My observation : Gemini sign is symbolished by a man and a woman.

This signifies binding element/ Tatwa. And it is one of the Kama

Trikona from the Kala Purusha's first sign.

 

Non attachments towards life usually gives intitution.

OR when intitutive power grows, renunciation nature expands.

 

What Wendy wrote is almost correct in my observation. ( I observed

it now ).

 

 

sarasalai_siva

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Wendyji,

It was a pleasure to have your views on the subject. No question of me

minding it!.

 

I read that interview. Quite interesting. I didn't know her background

before that. I guess her work does accomplish something for the

tropicalists who are making a switch to sidereal and/or vedic. It does

sound like she is experimenting a bit with other concepts too. I wish

I knew more about astrology to be able to comment about it. But on the

surface her D10 does seem strong. Would her rahu conjunct venus

suggest her teaching it in foreign countries? Interesting that her

past was also as an actress, that is ruled by both rahu ( illusion)

and venus.

 

 

I guess it was Shiva who had apparently given a curse that astrologers

will never agree. Even as a client one is constantly under a pressure

to decide what is the right opinion and what is not. Essentially we

have to go back to our intuition and decide. On that note, I should

have had a rather sharp intuition having ketu in lagna in gemini, but

doubt is my way of life, constantly.Or maybe that intuition is there,

but the Sun, Jup debil and mercury in old age doesn't allow it to come

up strong.

I have begun to believe now that endless astrological analysis perhaps

doesn't do any good. One should have a strong spiritual practice, be

it yoga or meditation or something else. That only can give a day to

day guidance.

 

BTW does Rahu give a material rise in 9th house also, the house of

bhagya or does it spoil it.

 

Thanks for the discussion,

Regards

Shiva

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

>

> Hopefully you won't mind if I offer an opinion here :-)

>

> It is said that Ketu, the headless trunk, benefits from it's

placement in

> the intellectual sign of Mercury. Ketu himself is a significator for

> discriminative powers, intuition, psychic ability etc., and, when

associated

> with Mercury, these basic tendencies are influenced by the

> logical/intellectual qualities of Mercury...

>

> Ketu in 8th (for instance) in sign of Mercury is said to give great

> intuition and discrimination in occult or mystical subjects.

>

> I personally have not read any of Komilla Sutton's books, but I do

know that

> she has built a career as an astrologer. This is evident in her

horoscope,

> which she (herself) put in the public domain during an interview

with Gary

> Phillipson: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/komilla.html

>

> I've spoken earlier about the ability of Rahu to raise one up in the

> world...bestowing a certain level of success and recognition. Not

surprising

> then is Rahu's conjunction (in dashamsha) with Venus, dispositor of

(natal)

> 1st/10th lord Jupiter. Of course there's much more in dashamsha

worth taking

> note of i.e., 10th lord Jupiter in 9th dashamsha, 9th lord's

dispositor in

> 10th dashamsha etc..

>

> Of the few articles (of Komilla's) I've read I find I'm not entirely in

> agreement with all of her views... but that's the way it is with

jyotish, we

> all see through different eyes...

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " theblisswithin " <theblisswithin

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:18 AM

> Re: Ketu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Sarasalai ji,

> Someone told me Komilla Sutton says this in her book on nodes that

> ketu in gemini is intuitive intellect.

> I suppose it might mean the native is not very logical?

>

>

> Regards

> Shiva

>

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Dear Chandramohan,

 

Please don't ask such questions in isolation. The whole chart

should be looked at to make a call. The reason is, from your

question, we don't know what house is owned by Moon and what are

owned by Jupiter. We don't know if any other planets are

interfering with these three that you are referring to and what

kind of interference, etc. etc.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Chandramohan S <cmsiit wrote:

 

> hii alll

> Ketu in 10th house along with MOON in libra aspected by

> Jupiter from

> Aquaris........

> wat could be the most glaring effect???

>

>

>

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hii

all

Lagna is Makara.

and Jupiter is 3rd and 12th lord placed in 2nd and moon is 7th lord in

10th ....along with Ketu.

Jupiter aspects this combination of Moon and Ketu.

Time 9 00 pm

June 18 1986,Palakkad in Kerala.

hope I can get some views.

 

 

 

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