[va] Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Pl help analyze. 7/6

[Guest guest]

subba,

 

Well this person is guilty no doubt.

 

look at the 4th house 2 first rate malefics Sani+kuja, sani in Kuja's star

itself and Kuja is 6th lord all unlawful activities and sani as 8th lord in 4th

shows a prison term thru its dasa escaped the earlier stage of it sani dasa

started on 14/8/05 and will go on for 19 yrs

 

look at the combined aspect on Sukra who is exalted and still outnumbered

 

here the advantage this guy has is Chandra+guru in 2nd so has had enjoyed many

well placed family girls and not all of them will report him so has escaped with

just 18 yrs. he deserves more as the psychatriast has said.

his products will still sell and give him riches apart from this he will write

a good book and get name in it on sure his crimes.

 

I am sure his 2nd half of Guru dasa made a lot of name, fame and quick money.

 

here the main pillars Lagna lord in 12th has lost its strenght so all other

yogas stand stunted.

 

7th lord Guru and LL in 6/8m the courtships and 7th lord is also 6/8

 

and Ketu's role in 7ths hows his sinster mind and his dispositer is in enemy

house and its dispositer is also 6/8 though exalted has not helped much.

 

I guess he will serve the term, make some good bucks too.

 

did his trouble start between 13th march to 8th may this yr

 

and is it a chart of Abraham the costume designer, model who is behind bars in

NY?

 

appears so to me.if he is the one let him serve the term and redeem the victims

sufferings a bit

 

when we should protect the dignity of women the ones who give them shelter, a

career for the aspiring, some struggling girls instead of protecting them if

their masters abuse them, then they must pay for it as well.'

nature will get even with them, no man can float on the TEARS of women and live

happily for too long.

 

JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

G B Prashant Kumar

 

Pl give personal data with some life events with dates=jobs, marriage, family,

kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 to personal ID pkgoteti, for Lagna

features check.

Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and CHAT

consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India

 

 

 

 

subba_appa <subba_appa

vedic astrology

Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:28:20 PM

[vedic astrology] Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please

help analyze.

 

Respected learned astrologers:

 

The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very

strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal processes

has resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

 

The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a couple

of women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

supposedly committed in 6 months. This is indicative of a serial

molester.

 

He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years

imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa (started

from lagna).

 

I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my interactions, he

comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming

innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his communication and

interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent nature,

as someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in

prison can show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also

finds him intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case has

reported (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it

would be a danger to society if he was released.

 

The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court, though

the lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in

view of the psychiatrist opinion.

 

His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the

authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja kesari

yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good

chart.

 

Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India.

 

Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:

 

1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?

2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence

lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage of

justice possible?

3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the appeal

may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.

4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of

affairs?

 

From an astrological standpoint:

 

1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual

behavior?

2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison term?

3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim of

circumstances? How does that one judge that?

4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when he

was a child? How does one see that?

 

Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very

interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a more

detailed comprehensive response.

 

 

[Guest guest]

This native is not abraham. The native's conviction happened in Sa/Ma

dasa as per Vimsottari (lagna). Maybe it is a coincidence, but the

thought process for the appeal started in march this year.

 

I would appreciate if you could also answer the questions listed in my

original mail, as I am in a real fix on whether to support the appeal

process or stay out of it. And there are some deeper issues as well. If

somehow there's evidence that his actions were as a result of the sexual

abuse he himself suffered, there could be a case for mercy plea and

request for a lighter sentence.

 

Thanks for your opinion though!

 

 

vedic astrology , Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti

wrote:

>

> subba,

>

> Well this person is guilty no doubt.

>

> look at the 4th house 2 first rate malefics Sani+kuja, sani in Kuja's

star itself and Kuja is 6th lord all unlawful activities and sani as 8th

lord in 4th shows a prison term thru its dasa escaped the earlier stage

of it sani dasa started on 14/8/05 and will go on for 19 yrs

>

> look at the combined aspect on Sukra who is exalted and still

outnumbered

>

> here the advantage this guy has is Chandra+guru in 2nd so has had

enjoyed many well placed family girls and not all of them will report

him so has escaped with just 18 yrs. he deserves more as the

psychatriast has said.

> his products will still sell and give him riches apart from this he

will write a good book and get name in it on sure his crimes.

>

> I am sure his 2nd half of Guru dasa made a lot of name, fame and quick

money.

>

> here the main pillars Lagna lord in 12th has lost its strenght so

all other yogas stand stunted.

>

> 7th lord Guru and LL in 6/8m the courtships and 7th lord is also 6/8

>

> and Ketu's role in 7ths hows his sinster mind and his dispositer is in

enemy house and its dispositer is also 6/8 though exalted has not helped

much.

>

> I guess he will serve the term, make some good bucks too.

>

> did his trouble start between 13th march to 8th may this yr

>

> and is it a chart of Abraham the costume designer, model who is behind

bars in NY?

>

> appears so to me.if he is the one let him serve the term and redeem

the victims sufferings a bit

>

> when we should protect the dignity of women the ones who give them

shelter, a career for the aspiring, some struggling girls instead of

protecting them if their masters abuse them, then they must pay for it

as well.'

> nature will get even with them, no man can float on the TEARS of women

and live happily for too long.

>

> JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL

>

> Best wishes

>

>

>

> G B Prashant Kumar

>

> Pl give personal data with some life events with dates=jobs, marriage,

family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 to personal ID pkgoteti,

for Lagna features check.

> Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India

>

>

>

>

> subba_appa subba_appa

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:28:20 PM

> [vedic astrology] Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath?

Please help analyze.

>

> Respected learned astrologers:

>

> The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very

> strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal

processes

> has resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

>

> The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a couple

> of women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

> supposedly committed in 6 months. This is indicative of a serial

> molester.

>

> He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years

> imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa (started

> from lagna).

>

> I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my interactions,

he

> comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming

> innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his communication

and

> interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent

nature,

> as someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in

> prison can show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also

> finds him intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case

has

> reported (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it

> would be a danger to society if he was released.

>

> The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court, though

> the lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in

> view of the psychiatrist opinion.

>

> His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the

> authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja

kesari

> yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good

> chart.

>

> Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India.

>

> Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:

>

> 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?

> 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence

> lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage of

> justice possible?

> 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the appeal

> may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.

> 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of

> affairs?

>

> From an astrological standpoint:

>

> 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual

> behavior?

> 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison term?

> 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim of

> circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when he

> was a child? How does one see that?

>

> Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very

> interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a more

> detailed comprehensive response.

>

>

[Guest guest]

subba,

 

 

I think the person is involved in the crimes that he is accused

of.He has paas yoga formed by all the malefics in the kendra houses

and venus seriously afflicted by these malefics even in navamsa the

venus is debilitated and afflicted by malefics.No doubt he is

intellegent because of moon and jupiter in the 5th house but can we

trust his intellegence because even jupiter is neecha in navamsa.The

fourth house being afflicted by saturn and mars only show his dirty

mind and also both of them in opposition to venus.I think it

shows..........

 

infact all the planets lose their strength in navamsa-jupiter,venus

and sun.I think that rahu and ketu being uccha give him the

hideouseness of a rapist , increase his tendency of comitting a

crime.I dont think that he is being framed for all these crimes and

definitely such a person deserves to be behind bars if let loose he

would be only be a monster.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In vedic astrology , Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti

wrote:

>

> subba,

>

> Well this person is guilty no doubt.

>

> look at the 4th house 2 first rate malefics Sani+kuja, sani in

Kuja's star itself and Kuja is 6th lord all unlawful activities and

sani as 8th lord in 4th shows a prison term thru its dasa escaped

the earlier stage of it sani dasa started on 14/8/05 and will go on

for 19 yrs

>

> look at the combined aspect on Sukra who is exalted and still

outnumbered

>

> here the advantage this guy has is Chandra+guru in 2nd so has had

enjoyed many well placed family girls and not all of them will

report him so has escaped with just 18 yrs. he deserves more as the

psychatriast has said.

> his products will still sell and give him riches apart from this

he will write a good book and get name in it on sure his crimes.

>

> I am sure his 2nd half of Guru dasa made a lot of name, fame and

quick money.

>

> here the main pillars Lagna lord in 12th has lost its strenght

so all other yogas stand stunted.

>

> 7th lord Guru and LL in 6/8m the courtships and 7th lord is also

6/8

>

> and Ketu's role in 7ths hows his sinster mind and his dispositer

is in enemy house and its dispositer is also 6/8 though exalted has

not helped much.

>

> I guess he will serve the term, make some good bucks too.

>

> did his trouble start between 13th march to 8th may this yr

>

> and is it a chart of Abraham the costume designer, model who is

behind bars in NY?

>

> appears so to me.if he is the one let him serve the term and

redeem the victims sufferings a bit

>

> when we should protect the dignity of women the ones who give them

shelter, a career for the aspiring, some struggling girls instead of

protecting them if their masters abuse them, then they must pay for

it as well.'

> nature will get even with them, no man can float on the TEARS of

women and live happily for too long.

>

> JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL

>

> Best wishes

>

>

>

> G B Prashant Kumar

>

> Pl give personal data with some life events with dates=jobs,

marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 to personal ID

pkgoteti, for Lagna features check.

> Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail

and CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai,

India

>

>

>

>

> subba_appa <subba_appa

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:28:20 PM

> [vedic astrology] Innocent person or a dangerous

psychopath? Please help analyze.

>

> Respected learned astrologers:

>

> The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are

very

> strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal

processes

> has resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

>

> The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a

couple

> of women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

> supposedly committed in 6 months. This is indicative of a serial

> molester.

>

> He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years

> imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa

(started

> from lagna).

>

> I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

interactions, he

> comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming

> innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

communication and

> interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent

nature,

> as someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in

> prison can show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also

> finds him intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the

case has

> reported (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath

and it

> would be a danger to society if he was released.

>

> The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,

though

> the lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful

in

> view of the psychiatrist opinion.

>

> His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the

> authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja

kesari

> yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good

> chart.

>

> Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India.

>

> Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:

>

> 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?

> 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence

> lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage of

> justice possible?

> 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the

appeal

> may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.

> 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of

> affairs?

>

> From an astrological standpoint:

>

> 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual

> behavior?

> 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison

term?

> 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim

of

> circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when

he

> was a child? How does one see that?

>

> Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very

> interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a more

> detailed comprehensive response.

>

>